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A44187
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A letter of a gentleman to his friend, shewing that the bishops are not to be judges in Parliament in cases capital
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Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680.
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1679
(1679)
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Wing H2461; ESTC R204379
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tacta_fw-la juravit_fw-la &_o promisit_fw-la ac_fw-la dictos_fw-la tres_fw-la status_fw-la viz._n prelatos_n &_o clerum_fw-la nobiles_fw-la &_o magnates_fw-la nec_fw-la non_fw-la communitates_fw-la dicti_fw-la regni_fw-la svi_fw-la secundo_fw-la maii_n ad_fw-la palatium_n suum_fw-la westminst_n ad_fw-la majora_fw-la firmitatem_fw-la &_o robur_fw-la pacis_fw-la predicte_n fecit_fw-la congregari_fw-la quibus_fw-la quidem_fw-la tribus_fw-la statibus_fw-la per_fw-la cancellarium_fw-la suum_fw-la tenorem_fw-la dicte_n pacis_fw-la &_o singulos_fw-la articulos_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la seriose_fw-la exponi_fw-la fecit_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o king_n willing_a for_o his_o part_n that_o the_o say_a peace_n and_o all_o the_o particular_n of_o it_o shall_v in_o like_a manner_n be_v swear_v to_o confirm_v and_o ratify_v by_o he_o and_o the_o three_o estate_n of_o his_o kingdom_n according_a as_o he_o be_v oblige_v by_o the_o tenor_n of_o it_o to_o do_v do_v swear_v and_o promise_n lay_v his_o hand_n 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