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A42392 Reflections upon the animadversions upon the Bishop of Worcester's letter by H.G. H. G. 1662 (1662) Wing G25; ESTC R40433 9,578 13

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to make Episcopacy dangerous to Regality will have above twenry to one against him and therefore to advance it it is therefore absurdly done of him to charge Crimine ab uno Disce omnes upon the Bishop here when as he himself hath nothing else to make good his exception 2. For want of argument against the Bishops assertion that the Bishop is the sole Pastor of all Congregations in his Diocess D. E. is sure he says but it is only upon his own Authority Gratis dictum it can be defended by those arguments which maintain the Popes supremacy which is all one as if D. E. should be sure that my going to Church can only be maintained by those arguments which are alleged to maintain Mass and therefore I should never come there and if he had understood a little Logick he would have found he had proved the Bishops assertion by the practice of Paul and Peter though no Saints of his which he brings against it for to bid and command is the Predicament of Relation to something subject to it and if Paul may bid the Elders of Ephesus and Peter command his fellow Elders then necessarily must the Elders of Ephesus and Peter's fellow Elders be subject to Paul and Peter which is I believe as much as the Bishop will desire 3. I commend D. E. that in his 3. objection he charges the Bishop page 3. that such as come not in by the door to be Thieves and Robbers ought to be understood of such Ministers as speak to Congregations without the Bishops License whereas the Bishop then only charges Mr. Baxter not to come in by the door but to be a Thief and Robber because he had not only robbed the Right-full Vicar of Kidderminster of his Reputation but of his means and maintenance D. E. therefore does very well to set up a man of straw this cold weather and get himself heat by threshing of it but if D. E. be good at Addition he is no less at Substraction and therefore takes no notice of the Bishops instance of Saint Paul and Alexander the Copper-smith and Demas Philetus and H●meneus for D. E. his objection against preaching without a License after Ordination because it cannot be dissolved much less hindered in the free use except for moral and notoriously vicious misdemeanors I grant that power indissoluble because a divine institution yet does it not therefore follow that the exercise of it may not be suspended upon abuse of it However D. E. puts the cart before the horse in affirming it impossible to be dissolved much less impeached or hindred in the free use of it For his 2. objection of being unreasonable for one Minister of the Gospell to silence another and the Bishop to be no more He himself before granted it in Paul's bidding and Peter's commanding the Elders and Paul and Peter were but Ministers of the Gospell and if Paul and Peter might bid and command then might Paul and Peter forbid and silence for cujus est velle ejus est nolle But it is well here he allows the Bishop to be a Minister of the Gospell and so Christs whereas page 2. he makes him purely the Kings And now let me tell D. E. that the Judges of Assize are fellow subjects with himself yet for ought I know may proceed against and hang him if he mends not his manners Nor hath D. E. got so great a Goal of the Bishop in affirming our Saviour to put the Scribes and Pharises to silence by Argument only for the Scribes and Pharises were rightfully in Moses chair and had not as Thieves and Robbers invaded the rights and just possessions of other men as the Presbyterians did nor in that formality as Presbyterians had they or now have any right or power to teach the people and if it be not true which he saith the Bishop layes to their charge of preaching nothing but sedition and treason as contrary to their principles I am sure it is no way contrary to their Practice and so they are the more manifest Hypocrites in being so 4. D. E. 4 th objection is injurious and false for in all ages the Church did and might in point of Conscience injoyn penance for publick or private faults although forgiven or not taken notice of by Temporal Powers without any breach or disturbance of the publick Peace neither do I find or believe that the Bishop does affirm the Church distinct from the State to have any coercive power 5. D. E. 5 th objection is so wild and impertinent that I am confident the Bishop did never dream of such a consequence as he there puts where things are commanded by them who have no right or Authority to do it 6. And whereas D. E. in his sixt objection against the Bishop would have it an unconscionable thing to go against any pretence of Scripture or practice of Primitive times and to impose in Gods worship things confessedly needless and trivial and therefore what the Bishop uncompassionately tells us that our Laws do well to punish even with non-admission to the Sacrament such as will not or perhaps dare not kneel I am unwilling to dispute with any man where the terms of the subject matter are not first defined much less where my Adversary and I it may be mean quite contrary things by them I say then by Conscience I understand alwaies a rightfull power commanding or forbidding any thing and if any subordinate power to which I am subject commands contrary to it then to submit to the penalty but never to resist the power Now would I know what Law of God forbids me to kneel at the receiving the Sacrament or otherwise I cannot plead conscience against it if I be injoyned to do it by any Authority to which I am subject and therefore our Laws do well to punish those who will not conform and that kneeling and outward gestures are not trivial and needless as D. E. is pleas'd to tearm them in the worship and service of God is evident both by the old Law and Gospell and consent of all men in all ages and places untill denyed by our late and now Hypocrites and Reformers I say that outward gestures are commanded by our Saviour himself in Gods worship for when the Devil tempted our Saviour he bid him not ask any thing of him but fall down and worship him which was only an outward gesture but our Saviour told that it was writen that thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt thou serve to worship God therefore with an outward worship is commanded by our Saviour And I pray what is God jealous of in the second Commandment of falling down and worshiping any creature but that that should be given to it which is only due and proper to him and by the Authority of all storys men did ever wheresoever they apprehended a Deity worship it with outward worship It may be it was a trivial and needless