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A85228 Certain considerations of present concernment: touching this reformed Church of England. With a particular examination of An: Champny (Doctor of the Sorbon) his exceptions against the lawful calling and ordination of the Protestant bishops and pastors of this Church. / By H: Ferne, D.D. Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1653 (1653) Wing F789; Thomason E1520_1; ESTC R202005 136,131 385

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etc._n etc._n he_o shall_v nothing_o hurt_v the_o church_n or_o innocent_a christian_n for_o who_o our_o lord_n have_v provide_v say_v of_o evil_a prelate_n what_o they_o say_v do_v you_o mat._n 23._o as_o if_o he_o have_v say_v be_v their_o person_n what_o they_o will_v it_o do_v not_o prejudice_v the_o work_n of_o their_o function_n or_o ministry_n no_o more_o than_o it_o do_v in_o those_o to_o who_o our_o saviour_n there_o relate_v viz._n the_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n profess_a enemy_n to_o christ_n yet_o in_o moses_n chair_n and_o to_o be_v hear_v and_o obey_v the_o leper_n also_o be_v send_v to_o the_o priest_n because_o they_o be_v in_o place_n though_o general_o enemy_n to_o christ_n yea_o the_o ministerial_a act_n of_o judas_n himself_o who_o be_v traditor_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o traitor_n and_o a_o devil_n be_v good_a and_o valid_a when_o he_o be_v send_v as_o be_v other_o disciple_n abroad_o to_o perform_v they_o if_o then_o the_o iniquity_n of_o ruler_n or_o 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