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A42789 Tentamen novum continuatum. Or, An answer to Mr Owen's Plea and defense. Wherein Bishop Pearson's chronology about the time of St. Paul's constituting Timothy Bishop of Ephesus, and Titus of Crete, is confirm'd; the second epistle to Timothy demonstrated to have been written in the apostle's latter imprisonment at Rome; and all Mr. Owen's arguments drawn from antiquity for Presbyterian parity and ordination by presbyters, are overthrown. Herein is more particularly prov'd, that the Church of England, ever since the Reformation, believ'd the divine right of bishops. By Thomas Gipps, rector of Bury in Lancashire. Gipps, Thomas, d. 1709.; Pearson, John, 1613-1686. 1699 (1699) Wing G782; ESTC R213800 254,935 222

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virtue_n of_o their_o ordinary_a power_n 〈◊〉_d it_o no_o where_o appear_v that_o paul_n join_v the_o presbyter_n in_o commission_n with_o timothy_n it_o may_v then_o be_v reasonable_a to_o conclude_v that_o timothy_n receive_v the_o sole_a power_n though_o it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o i_o to_o say_v he_o have_v the_o supreme_a mr._n o._n but_o paul_n join_v 〈◊〉_d with_o he_o in_o the_o ordination_n acts._n 14._o 23._o ans._n be_v it_o so_o yet_o still_o if_o barnabas_n be_v a_o apostle_n as_o well_o as_o paul_n as_o be_v manifest_a from_o act_n 14._o 4_o 14._o gal._n 29._o and_o if_o barnabas_n be_v equal_a to_o paul_n as_o many_o believe_v and_o mr._n o._n will_v not_o deny_v than_o we_o be_v but_o where_o we_o be_v before_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o ordinary_a elder_n ordain_v that_o barnabas_n be_v thou_o not_o equal_a to_o paul_n yet_o independent_a on_o he_o may_v be_v probable_o hence_o gather_v that_o in_o the_o sharp_a contest_v between_o they_o barnabas_n submit_v not_o to_o 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who_o exercise_v their_o ministry_n among_o you_o blameless_o brethren_n etc._n etc._n all_o that_o need_v be_v answer_v hereunto_o be_v 1._o clement_n manifest_o teach_v elsewhere_o that_o the_o schism_n arise_v on_o the_o account_n of_o one_o or_o two_o person_n p._n 62._o it_o be_v say_v he_o a_o shame_n a_o arrant_a shame_n and_o unworthy_a a_o christian_n conversation_n that_o the_o ancient_a and_o most_o firm_o establish_v church_n of_o corinth_n shall_v raise_v sedition_n against_o the_o presbyter_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o one_o or_o two_o person_n that_o there_o be_v a_o difference_n among_o they_o about_o their_o bishop_n that_o generous_a person_n it_o must_v needs_o follow_v that_o the_o presbyter_n be_v involve_v in_o the_o controversy_n and_o by_o consequence_n that_o some_o of_o they_o be_v desert_v and_o lay_v aside_o by_o those_o of_o the_o people_n who_o have_v a_o aversion_n to_o the_o bishop_n that_o generous_a person_n so_o oft_o mention_v as_o well_o 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think_v and_o that_o for_o life_n too_o all_o this_o do_v columba_n and_o his_o successor_n who_o be_v pretend_v by_o mr._n baxter_n to_o have_v restore_v the_o culdee_n or_o presbyter_n strength_n against_o the_o encroachment_n of_o palladius_n but_o all_o this_o while_n the_o tyrant_n only_o be_v change_v not_o the_o tyranny_n the_o name_n alter_v not_o the_o thing_n instead_o of_o palladius_n the_o culdee_n and_o monk_n be_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o columba_n and_o in_o the_o place_n of_o a_o bishop_n be_v set_v up_o a_o archpresbyter_n moreover_o i_o will_v ask_v whether_o in_o the_o suppose_a ordination_n at_o hylas_n by_o presbyter_n the_o monk-presbyter_n can_v or_o do_v ordain_v without_o the_o abbot-presbyter_n if_o not_o as_o i_o believe_v all_o will_n and_o must_v grant_v our_o unite_a brother_n will_v find_v little_a relief_n from_o this_o rare_a instance_n of_o presbyterian_a parity_n and_o ordination_n i_o shall_v here_o have_v conclude_v this_o chapter_n but_o mr._n o._n in_o the_o midst_n of_o this_o controversy_n have_v interweave_v a_o invidious_a reflection_n upon_o episcopacy_n and_o assert_v that_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o church_n of_o 149._o the_o roman_a empire_n have_v their_o platform_n from_o the_o heathen_a who_o have_v their_o flamen_n and_o arch-flaman_n and_o i_o know_v not_o what_o ans._n 1._o if_o the_o heathen_n have_v sundry_a officer_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o their_o idolatrous_a religion_n subordinate_a to_o one_o another_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v the_o christian_n take_v it_o from_o they_o why_o not_o from_o the_o jewish_a hierarchy_n his_o belove_a hilarius_n sardus_n be_v of_o this_o opinion_n or_o why_o may_v it_o not_o not_o be_v think_v a_o piece_n of_o natural_a religion_n wherein_o the_o patriarch_n jew_n gentile_n all_o agree_n but_o let_v we_o see_v how_o he_o attempt_v to_o make_v good_a this_o reflection_n of_o the_o christian_n derive_v their_o hierarchy_n 〈◊〉_d the_o heathen_a he_o ground_n it_o on_o the_o epistle_n of_o julian_n to_o arsacius_n the_o gentile_n chief-priest_n in_o galatia_n and_o after_o the_o citation_n of_o a_o scrap_n out_o of_o eusebius_n which_o i_o do_v not_o find_v in_o the_o place_n direct_v to_o cry_v out_o here_o be_v a_o precedent_n for_o bishop_n intermeddle_v with_o state_n affair_n whereas_o any_o one_o may_v know_v that_o will_v but_o read_v or_o understand_v that_o epistle_n which_o mr._n o._n never_o do_v i_o preceive_v that_o it_o be_v entire_o spend_v about_o religious_a matter_n and_o direct_v how_o arsacius_n the_o chief_a priest_n shall_v behave_v himself_o in_o govern_v the_o affair_n of_o the_o gentile_a religion_n thus_o we_o be_v wont_n to_o be_v teaze_v by_o a_o sort_n of_o man_n that_o do_v not_o or_o will_v not_o understand_v what_o they_o say_v who_o so_o they_o may_v cast_v dirt_n upon_o we_o care_v not_o how_o ignorant_o and_o false_o they_o do_v it_o but_o to_o let_v this_o pass_v the_o question_n here_o be_v whether_o the_o christian_n derive_v their_o form_n of_o church_n government_n by_o bishop_n from_o the_o gentile_n or_o the_o gentile_n from_o they_o this_o latter_a i_o undertake_v to_o make_v out_o first_o from_o the_o ancient_a writer_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n who_o argue_v for_o the_o divine_a authority_n of_o bishop_n as_o be_v borrow_v from_o the_o levitical_a high_a priest_n priest_n and_o levite_n all_o the_o world_n know_v this_o i_o need_v not_o bring_v forth_o 〈◊〉_d testimony_n even_o mr._n oh_o so_fw-mi oft_o mention_v hilary_n be_v one_o but_o of_o this_o i_o have_v speak_v before_o second_o although_o the_o druid_n according_a to_o caesar_n have_v such_o a_o sort_n of_o government_n among_o they_o yet_o in_o the_o east_n where_o episcopacy_n be_v first_o establish_v the_o gentile_n have_v no_o such_o government_n as_o appear_v from_o what_o eusebius_n have_v note_v of_o maximinus_n 4._o the_o heathen_a emperor_n who_o observe_v the_o way_n of_o church_n government_n
limit_a district_n and_o even_o ordain_v presbyter_n and_o deacon_n when_o express_o delegated_a thereto_o by_o the_o diocesan_n that_o they_o refide_v in_o some_o country_n village_n where_o their_o ordinary_a and_o constant_a work_n be_v no_o other_o than_o of_o presbyter_n and_o so_o be_v look_v on_o as_o the_o diocesan_n presbyter_n which_o can_v by_o no_o mean_n prejudice_v their_o episcopal_a character_n one_o may_v be_v a_o bishop_n yet_o without_o a_o diocese_n as_o one_o may_v be_v a_o presbyter_n without_o a_o title_n or_o parish_n the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n think_v fit_a to_o put_v a_o end_n unto_o this_o order_n so_o do_v the_o roman_n and_o spanish_a church_n as_o also_o the_o english_a haply_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o archdeacon_n may_v have_v the_o title_n of_o chorepiscopi_fw-la for_o some_o while_n continue_v to_o they_o be_v substitute_v in_o their_o room_n but_o this_o be_v no_o proof_n that_o they_o be_v presbyter_n at_o their_o first_o institution_n when_o the_o real_a episcopal_a character_n be_v 〈◊〉_d on_o they_o though_o no_o diocese_n be_v yet_o actual_o allot_v they_o this_o be_v what_o i_o think_v needful_a and_o enough_o to_o be_v offer_v in_o answer_n to_o the_o difficulty_n start_v about_o the_o chorepiscopi_fw-la as_o for_o that_o epistle_n to_o 〈◊〉_d it_o shall_v suffice_v to_o note_v that_o it_o be_v one_o of_o those_o which_o be_v account_v spurious_a as_o may_v be_v collect_v from_o bellarmin_n himself_o who_o judgement_n be_v ejus_fw-la scripta_fw-la non_fw-la extant_a exceptis_fw-la scrip._n paucis_fw-la epistolis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sun_n inter_v epistold_n s._n hieronymi_n aliique_fw-la in_o hiftorid_a 〈◊〉_d l._n 2._o c._n 22._o l._n 5._o c._n 10._o 11._o the_o rest_n eccles._n therefore_o and_o this_o in_o particular_a be_v apocryphal_a it_o be_v possible_o counterfeit_v by_o some_o that_o live_v after_o the_o council_n of_o hispalis_n there_o be_v a_o very_a great_a agreement_n between_o this_o epistle_n and_o that_o seven_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n as_o who_o ever_o will_v read_v they_o must_v confess_v we_o shall_v not_o need_v therefore_o to_o be_v concern_v at_o any_o thing_n bring_v against_o we_o out_o of_o this_o connterfeit_a epistle_n chap._n ix_o of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a mro._n as_o if_o all_o antiquity_n be_v on_o his_o side_n omit_v not_o to_o argue_v even_o from_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a its_o self_n in_o favour_n of_o the_o power_n of_o presbyter_n ordain_v which_o be_v a_o discovery_n so_o new_a and_o surprise_v that_o one_o will_v 〈◊〉_d the_o whole_a chriftian_a church_n have_v be_v blind_a above_o these_o 1300._o year_n last_o paft_n till_o he_o with_o the_o help_n of_o mr._n baxter_n have_v be_v please_v to_o open_v all_o our_o eye_n at_o last_o and_o to_o assure_v we_o that_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a decree_v 135._o concern_v the_o presbyter_n ordain_v by_o melitius_fw-la at_o 〈◊〉_d as_o follow_v he_o autem_fw-la qui_fw-la dei_fw-la gratia_n &_o nostris_fw-la lege_fw-la vestris_fw-la precibus_fw-la adjuti_fw-la ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d scbisma_n deflexisse_fw-la compersi_fw-la sunt_fw-la sed_fw-la se_fw-la intra_fw-la catholica_fw-la &_o apostolicae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d fine_n ab_fw-la erroris_fw-la labe_fw-la vacuos_fw-la continuerint_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d tum_fw-la ministros_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &c_n &c_n mr._n o._n have_v take_v this_o passage_n out_o of_o mr._n baxter_n and_o he_o out_o of_o some_o translator_n that_o do_v not_o or_o will_v not_o understand_v the_o historian_n aright_o the_o word_n be_v part_n of_o a_o letter_n write_v by_o the_o nicene_n father_n to_o the_o church_n of_o alexandria_n wherein_o they_o give_v a_o account_n to_o that_o church_n of_o what_o have_v be_v propound_v and_o examine_v in_o the_o synod_n and_o what_o have_v be_v decree_v and_o confirm_v therein_o as_o first_o that_o the_o impiety_n 9_o of_o arrius_n and_o his_o accomplice_n have_v be_v bring_v into_o question_n and_o condemn_v etc._n etc._n that_o as_o for_o melitius_fw-la it_o please_v the_o synod_n to_o deal_v more_o gentle_o with_o he_o than_o with_o arrius_n viz._n that_o he_o shall_v remain_v in_o his_o own_o city_n but_o that_o he_o shall_v have_v no_o power_n to_o ordain_v or_o to_o propose_v the_o name_n of_o the_o candidate_n to_o the_o holy_a function_n only_o he_o may_v retain_v the_o bare_a title_n of_o his_o honour_n that_o be_v of_o bishop_n that_o those_o who_o have_v be_v constitute_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o he_o be_v first_o confirm_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o a_o more_o solemn_a and_o religious_a imposition_n of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n may_v be_v allow_v to_o join_v in_o matter_n proper_o belong_v to_o they_o but_o that_o until_o they_o have_v obtain_v their_o honour_n and_o ministry_n again_o they_o shall_v be_v second_o unto_o all_o those_o who_o in_o every_o diocese_n and_o church_n have_v be_v before_o propose_v under_o the_o authority_n of_o our_o most_o belove_a colleague_n alexander_n and_o moreover_o shall_v have_v no_o power_n to_o propound_v the_o name_n of_o those_o who_o be_v subject_a to_o alexander_n nor_o in_o short_a to_o do_v any_o thing_n without_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n of_o alexandria_n this_o be_v all_o the_o nicene_n synod_n write_v concern_v the_o melitian_n or_o those_o who_o have_v be_v constitute_v and_o ordain_v by_o melitius_fw-la here_o be_v not_o a_o syllable_n of_o presbyter_n or_o of_o ordain_v minister_n the_o passage_n may_v as_o well_o and_o be_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d of_o bishop_n and_o of_o ordain_v bishop_n but_o for_o the_o more_o through_o understand_v it_o we_o must_v remember_v that_o melitius_fw-la whilst_o peter_n be_v patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n have_v be_v bishop_n of_o lycus_n a_o city_n in_o egypt_n subject_n to_o the_o say_a patriarch_n that_o during_o the_o persecution_n under_o maximinus_n peter_n abscond_v melitius_fw-la have_v take_v upon_o he_o to_o constitute_v or_o ordain_v bishop_n 24._o which_o belong_v unto_o the_o patriarch_n to_o do_v it_o be_v not_o indeed_o doubt_v but_o that_o he_o ordain_v presbyter_n and_o deacon_n also_o nevertheless_o his_o first_o and_o principal_a crime_n as_o i_o believe_v be_v his_o constitute_n or_o ordain_v bishop_n which_o be_v a_o manifest_a invasion_n of_o the_o patriarch_n right_a and_o that_o 〈◊〉_d constitute_v and_o ordain_v bishop_n be_v prove_v by_o valesius_fw-la locum_fw-la out_o of_o epiphanius_n nay_o the_o say_v learned_a annotator_n evince_n that_o melitius_fw-la constitute_v or_o ordain_v twenty_o eight_o bishop_n beside_o five_o presbyter_n and_o three_o deacon_n as_o he_o gather_v from_o the_o second_o apology_n of_o athanasius_n against_o the_o arrian_n from_o whence_o he_o make_v no_o scruple_n to_o affirm_v that_o socrates_n in_o this_o place_n speak_v chief_o of_o bishop_n constitute_v or_o ordain_v by_o 〈◊〉_d yet_o so_o as_o that_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n also_o be_v 〈◊〉_d by_o he_o 〈◊〉_d say_v he_o if_o the_o nicene_n father_n hide_v herein_o decree_v nothing_o against_o the_o melitian_n 〈◊〉_d they_o have_v leave_v their_o work_n very_o lame_a and_o imperfect_a beside_o 〈◊〉_d become_v schismatical_a not_o by_o ordain_v presbyter_n but_o by_o ordain_v bishop_n hence_o sozomen_n observe_v that_o melitius_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d supra_fw-la have_v usurp_v the_o power_n of_o ordain_v which_o do_v not_o all_o belong_v unto_o he_o the_o power_n of_o ordain_v who_o why_o not_o bishop_n for_o till_o by_o this_o mean_v he_o be_v fall_v into_o 〈◊〉_d he_o have_v certain_o as_o bishop_n power_n to_o 〈◊〉_d priest_n and_o deacon_n but_o not_o of_o ordain_v or_o 〈◊〉_d bishop_n without_o the_o 〈◊〉_d leave_v and_o this_o be_v i_o suppose_v if_o not_o his_o only_a fault_n yet_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d wherefore_o when_o the_o nicene_n father_n decree_v that_o the_o 〈◊〉_d who_o have_v be_v constitute_v and_o ordain_v by_o 〈◊〉_d may_v not_o intermeddle_v in_o the_o constitute_n or_o ordain_v other_o until_o themselves_o have_v be_v confirm_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o a_o more_o solemn_a imposition_n of_o hand_n they_o must_v thereby_o mean_v that_o the_o melitian_n bishop_n be_v ordain_v schismatical_o be_v suspend_v from_o ordain_v until_o they_o have_v be_v confirm_v by_o the_o patriarch_n and_o some_o of_o the_o egyptian_a bishop_n subject_a to_o he_o and_o this_o be_v all_o that_o the_o synod_n declare_v concern_v the_o melitian_n but_o neither_o mr._n o._n nor_o mr._n baxter_n for_o any_o thing_n i_o can_v see_v in_o the_o plea_n have_v take_v any_o notice_n of_o this_o passage_n 〈◊〉_d whereof_o we_o be_v amuse_v with_o something_o less_o pertinent_a to_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n as_o i_o be_o now_o about_o to_o show_v for_o the_o nicene_n father_n go_v on_o in_o that_o epistle_n to_o speak_v of_o the_o alexandrian_n that_o be_v such_o as_o have_v not_o withdraw_v themselves_o from_o alexander_n the_o
his_o authority_n i_o meddle_v not_o with_o cite_v by_o mr._n o._n in_o these_o word_n presbyter_n ordination_n be_v account_v void_a by_o the_o rigour_n of_o the_o canon_n in_o use_n then_o because_o ordination_n sine_fw-la titulo_fw-la be_v null_a council_n chalced._n can._n 6._o it_o belong_v not_o to_o the_o time_n we_o be_v now_o speak_v of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n be_v hold_v a_o hundred_o and_o twenty_o year_n after_o that_o of_o nice_n nor_o be_v the_o qualification_n of_o a_o title_n require_v till_o long_a after_o that_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n wherein_o also_o i_o meet_v not_o with_o a_o syllable_n of_o annul_v ordination_n for_o want_n of_o a_o title_n that_o 6_o can._n make_v void_a clancular_a ordination_n not_o give_v visible_o in_o the_o face_n of_o the_o church_n the_o rule_n which_o require_v the_o candidate_n to_o be_v offer_v unto_o the_o suffrage_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o people_n in_o the_o church_n and_o congregation_n be_v neglect_v as_o justellus_n have_v observe_v from_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o method_n of_o require_v title_n indeed_o grow_v up_o afterward_o which_o the_o canonist_n in_o the_o follow_a age_n gather_v from_o this_o six_o canon_n of_o chalcedon_n as_o fancy_v some_o analogy_n or_o agreement_n between_o they_o in_o reason_n as_o calvin_n jurid_a teach_v i_o however_o let_v we_o take_v the_o argument_n as_o it_o be_v propound_v ordination_n by_o presbyter_n be_v account_v void_a not_o in_o themselves_o but_o by_o the_o rigour_n of_o the_o canon_n in_o use_n then_o how_o do_v this_o appear_v why_o because_o ordination_n sine_fw-la titulo_fw-la be_v null_n by_o the_o six_o canon_n of_o chalcedon_n which_o be_v just_a as_o if_o one_o shall_v pretend_v to_o prove_v the_o lord's-day_n not_o holy_a by_o divine_a appointment_n but_o by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a constitution_n because_o the_o other_o holiday_n be_v not_o be_v it_o not_o possible_a the_o lord's-day_n may_v be_v holy_a by_o divine_a institution_n though_o good_a friday_n be_v not_o or_o that_o ordination_n by_o presbyter_n may_v be_v null_a in_o themselves_o and_o by_o scripture_n though_o ordination_n sine_fw-la titulo_fw-la be_v uncanonical_a only_o but_o if_o mr._n o._n intend_v this_o only_a as_o the_o judgement_n of_o so_o learned_a a_o person_n as_o dr._n field_n i_o let_v it_o pass_v as_o such_o be_v no_o way_n oblige_v to_o account_v for_o the_o opinion_n of_o private_a doctor_n the_o reverend_a author_n of_o the_o naked_a truth_n if_o i_o right_o apprehend_v mr._n o._n for_o i_o lift_v not_o to_o look_v after_o the_o book_n its_o self_n intend_v to_o prove_v by_o the_o nicene_n canon_n which_o forbid_v bishop_n to_o ordain_v in_o one_o another_o dioceses_n that_o the_o irregular_a ordination_n by_o bishop_n be_v as_o null_a as_o the_o irregular_a ordination_n by_o presbyter_n now_o there_o be_v no_o strength_n in_o this_o reason_v i_o can_v scarce_o allow_v it_o to_o be_v sense_n he_o ought_v first_o to_o make_v out_o that_o presbyter_n have_v power_n to_o ordain_v and_o then_o indeed_o the_o irregular_a ordination_n of_o the_o one_o will_v be_v null_a as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o other_o and_o both_o alike_o but_o we_o deny_v presbyter_n to_o have_v power_n to_o ordain_v be_v sure_a that_o nicene_n canon_n give_v they_o none_o and_o therefore_o the_o comparison_n here_o be_v foolish_a and_o frivolous_a it_o be_v as_o if_o one_o shall_v lay_v down_o this_o grave_a maxim_n the_o irregular_a sentence_n of_o a_o judge_n be_v as_o null_a as_o that_o of_o a_o private_a man_n whereas_o a_o private_a man_n can_v give_v no_o decretory_n sentence_n at_o all_o i_o own_o bishop_n in_o their_o ordination_n be_v under_o many_o canonical_a restraint_n and_o some_o of_o their_o irregular_a ordination_n be_v decree_v null_a at_o least_o so_o as_o that_o the_o ordain_v be_v not_o allow_v to_o exercise_v their_o function_n but_o to_o talk_v of_o the_o irregularity_n of_o ordination_n by_o presbyter_n be_v to_o suppose_v it_o prove_v they_o have_v power_n to_o ordain_v which_o be_v to_o beg_v the_o question_n i_o be_o sure_a their_o power_n be_v not_o intimate_v in_o the_o nicene_n canon_n as_o that_o of_o bishop_n be_v nor_o in_o any_o other_o that_o i_o be_o yet_o acquaint_v with_o if_o a_o canon_n be_v any_o where_o to_o be_v find_v restrain_v ordination_n make_v by_o presbyter_n and_o limit_v the_o manner_n and_o circumstance_n of_o they_o it_o be_v reasonable_a thence_o to_o gather_v that_o presbyter_n have_v power_n to_o ordain_v but_o the_o canonical_a restraint_n lay_v upon_o bishop_n will_v not_o convince_v i_o that_o presbyter_n have_v that_o power_n final_o one_o may_v by_o the_o same_o reason_v conclude_v that_o deacon_n yea_o that_o every_o ordinary_a believer_n have_v power_n to_o ordain_v as_o well_o as_o bishop_n thus_o i_o proceed_v in_o the_o argument_n by_o the_o nicene_n canon_n bishop_n ordination_n in_o other_o diocese_n without_o consent_n be_v forbid_v and_o hence_o we_o see_v the_o irregular_a ordination_n of_o bishop_n be_v as_o null_a as_o the_o irregular_a ordination_n of_o ordinary_a believer_n and_o deacon_n but_o this_o be_v no_o better_a than_o beat_v the_o air_n out_o of_o nothing_o to_o gather_v something_o for_o all_o this_o while_n neither_o deacon_n nor_o believer_n have_v power_n at_o all_o to_o ordain_v haply_o mr._n o._n have_v leave_v the_o reverend_a author_n argument_n short_a so_o i_o dismiss_v it_o chap._n x._o of_o aerius_n this_o be_v a_o turbulent_a and_o heretical_a presbyterian_a the_o only_a one_o to_o be_v meet_v with_o in_o all_o antiquity_n it_o may_v not_o be_v amiss_o in_o few_o word_n to_o present_v the_o reader_n with_o his_o character_n as_o it_o be_v transmit_v to_o we_o by_o st._n austin_n and_o epiphanius_n the_o former_a tell_v we_o that_o be_v a_o presbyter_n he_o be_v 3._o report_v to_o have_v be_v trouble_v because_o he_o can_v not_o be_v ordain_v a_o bishop_n that_o he_o fall_v into_o the_o arrian_n heresy_n add_v to_o it_o some_o of_o his_o own_o conceit_n as_o that_o state_v fast_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v observe_v and_o that_o a_o presbyter_n ought_v no_o way_n to_o be_v distinguish_v from_o a_o bishop_n that_o the_o aerian_o his_o follower_n admit_v to_o their_o communion_n only_o the_o continent_n or_o such_o as_o embrace_v a_o celibate_n life_n and_o who_o have_v so_o far_o renounce_v the_o world_n as_o to_o account_v nothing_o their_o own_o and_o do_v not_o abstain_v from_o flesh_n in_o the_o appoint_a time_n as_o epiphanius_n write_v this_o epiphanius_n among_o many_o other_o error_n and_o some_o of_o the_o aforesaid_a particular_o remember_v that_o he_o seek_v to_o be_v a_o bishop_n but_o can_v not_o obtain_v it_o he_o call_v it_o 77._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o hairbrained_a and_o mad_a doctrine_n sc_n that_o of_o the_o identity_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n when_o epiphanius_n have_v reckon_v up_o a_o great_a many_o of_o his_o error_n and_o heresy_n he_o proceed_v to_o refute_v they_o and_o in_o the_o first_o place_n take_v he_o to_o task_n for_o that_o about_o the_o identity_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n in_o short_a he_o set_v he_o forth_o as_o a_o very_a wicked_a and_o impious_a fellow_n it_o be_v not_o material_a in_o the_o dispute_n whether_o aerius_n be_v a_o heretic_n or_o be_v call_v so_o by_o epiphanius_n and_o st._n austin_n on_o the_o account_n of_o his_o teach_a bishop_n and_o presbyter_n to_o be_v equal_a i_o be_o sure_a st._n austin_n place_v this_o error_n of_o he_o in_o the_o front_n and_o before_o that_o of_o arrianism_n and_o both_o condemn_v he_o for_o his_o opinion_n about_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n which_o be_v sufficient_a to_o my_o purpose_n for_o i_o be_o not_o concern_v about_o private_a person_n opinion_n such_o as_o bishop_n jewel_n though_o a_o excellent_a man_n and_o one_o of_o the_o great_a ornament_n of_o our_o church_n and_o of_o the_o reformation_n or_o other_o mention_v by_o mr._n o._n 124._o whatever_o their_o sentiment_n be_v i_o shall_v hereafter_o show_v that_o it_o be_v ever_o the_o public_a judgement_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n of_o england_n that_o bishop_n be_v jure_fw-la divino_fw-la and_o i_o hope_v it_o be_v no_o breach_n of_o modesty_n to_o confront_v they_o with_o the_o church_n authority_n chap._n xi_o of_o hilary_n the_o deacon_n it_o be_v not_o agree_v among_o the_o critic_n who_o be_v the_o author_n of_o the_o commentary_n on_o st._n paul_n epistle_n which_o be_v in_o the_o work_v of_o st._n ambrose_n vol._n 5._o and_o it_o be_v as_o uncertain_a unto_o who_o belong_v the_o quaestiones_fw-la veter_fw-la be_v &_o novi_fw-la testamenti_fw-la in_o st._n austin_n tom._n 4._o there_o be_v some_o excellent_a passage_n find_v in_o they_o and_o cite_v by_o austin_n in_o his_o tract_n against_o the_o pelagian_n 62._o under_o the_o title_n of_o
deceive_v we_o we_o have_v take_v a_o long_a and_o chargeable_a journey_n to_o the_o waldenses_n but_o have_v bring_v no_o thing_n back_o worthy_a our_o pain_n but_o a_o word_n and_o empty_a title_n thus_o the_o whole_a action_n be_v mere_a pageantry_n a_o scene_n of_o imposture_n and_o a_o intrigue_n carry_v on_o by_o hypocrite_n on_o both_o side_n this_o must_v be_v confess_v if_o the_o waldensian_a bishop_n be_v mere_o titular_a as_o mr._n o._n be_v please_v to_o say_v on_o the_o other_o hand_n the_o history_n assure_v we_o that_o the_o fratres_fw-la bohemi_n be_v exceed_o comfort_v and_o encourage_v at_o the_o return_n of_o their_o presbyter_n now_o create_v bishop_n and_o derive_v their_o order_n in_o a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n as_o they_o believe_v but_o at_o length_n my_o adversary_n seem_v to_o melt_v a_o little_a and_o to_o come_v half_a way_n over_o to_o we_o he_o profess_v thus_o in_o his_o own_o and_o brethren_n name_n we_o dislke_v not_o that_o for_o order_n sake_n the_o exercise_n of_o this_o power_n shall_v be_v ordinary_o restrain_v to_o the_o grave_a minister_n provide_v they_o assume_v it_o not_o as_o proper_a to_o they_o by_o divine_a right_n nor_o clog_v it_o with_o unscriptural_a imposition_n from_o this_o conclusion_n of_o mr._n o._n it_o follow_v 1._o that_o in_o mr._n oh_o judgement_n the_o church_n may_v restrain_v the_o power_n of_o ordain_v take_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o from_o some_o of_o the_o yonnger_n fry_n and_o lodging_n it_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o grave_a sort_n but_o the_o mischief_n be_v the_o young_a sort_n will_v present_o cry_v our_o against_o the_o usurpation_n they_o will_v plead_v that_o they_o be_v presbyter_n as_o well_o as_o other_o and_o have_v a_o inherent_a power_n to_o ordain_v that_o it_o can_v be_v take_v from_o they_o by_o ecclesiastical_a constitution_n that_o they_o can_v in_o conscience_n part_n with_o that_o power_n and_o right_n which_o the_o scripture_n give_v they_o and_o in_o short_a will_v turn_v all_o mr._n oh_o batter_a ram_n against_o the_o grave_a minister_n which_o he_o have_v plant_v against_o our_o bishop_n and_o with_o more_o reason_n too_o for_o st._n paul_n when_o he_o restrain_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n he_o have_v not_o respect_n to_o age_n but_o to_o ability_n 〈◊〉_d by_o be_v but_o a_o young_a man_n when_o paul_n set_v he_o over_o the_o church_n of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o i_o have_v reason_n to_o think_v 〈◊〉_d be_v so_o too_o for_o he_o admonish_v he_o to_o take_v care_n that_o 〈◊〉_d man_n despise_v he_o c._n 2._o 15._o where_o i_o suppose_v it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v that_o titus_n also_o be_v but_o young_a and_o demas_n bishop_n of_o magnesia_n in_o ignatius_n be_v a_o young_a man_n also_o 2._o if_o mr._n o._n will_v be_v please_v to_o give_v i_o leave_v to_o suppose_v st._n paul_n as_o wise_a as_o himself_o it_o be_v all_o i_o ask_v i_o will_v suppose_v then_o that_o the_o say_a apostle_n for_o order_n sake_n do_v restrain_v the_o exercise_n of_o the_o ordain_v power_n to_o some_o person_n by_o he_o make_v choice_n of_o and_o for_o the_o prevention_n of_o schism_n do_v prescribe_v the_o same_o rule_n unto_o the_o church_n which_o mr._n o._n see_v some_o reason_n for_o now_o doubtless_o then_o st._n paul_n leave_v not_o the_o power_n of_o ordain_v promiscuous_o unto_o all_o presbyter_n but_o limit_v it_o unto_o a_o few_o i_o will_v not_o say_v the_o grave_a or_o old_a sort_n but_o the_o wise_a and_o most_o holy_a if_o mr._n o._n will_v nourish_v this_o principle_n and_o make_v such_o deduction_n from_o it_o as_o it_o be_v capable_a of_o he_o will_v soon_o see_v that_o episcopal_a ordination_n be_v apostolical_a but_o i_o believe_v his_o own_o party_n will_v con_v he_o no_o thanks_o for_o this_o liberal_a concession_n mr._n o._n add_v and_o not_o clog_v it_o with_o unscriptural_a imposition_n if_o there_o be_v any_o order_n in_o a_o church_n some_o few_o thing_n must_v of_o necessity_n be_v impose_v but_o this_o be_v what_o the_o dissenter_n aim_v at_o that_o every_o one_o may_v be_v leave_v at_o liberty_n to_o say_v and_o do_v what_o be_v right_a in_o his_o own_o eye_n the_o imposition_n lay_v upon_o the_o ordain_v among_o we_o be_v not_o such_o as_o the_o bishop_n themselves_o alone_o devise_v but_o the_o whole_a church_n consent_v unto_o and_o though_o they_o be_v not_o prescribe_v in_o scripture_n they_o be_v not_o antiscriptural_a nor_o introduce_v into_o the_o place_n of_o any_o thing_n require_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o short_a do_v not_o the_o presbyterian_o when_o they_o be_v in_o the_o saddle_n clog_v their_o ordination_n with_o unscriptural_a imposition_n i_o mean_v that_o of_o take_v the_o covenant_n but_o this_o be_v to_o carry_v the_o controversy_n into_o another_o quarter_n i_o shall_v therefore_o let_v it_o pass_v of_o the_o lollard_n 〈◊〉_d have_v it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d fasten_v that_o practice_n on_o the_o lollard_n that_o their_o presbyter_n after_o the_o manner_n of_o bishop_n do_v create_v new_a presbyter_n and_o that_o every_o priest_n or_o presbyter_n have_v as_o good_a a_o power_n to_o bind_v and_o loose_v and_o to_o minister_v in_o all_o other_o thing_n belong_v to_o the_o church_n as_o the_o pope_n himself_o give_v or_o can_v give_v but_o to_o this_o it_o may_v be_v reply_v that_o it_o be_v only_o the_o report_n of_o a_o adversary_n and_o perhaps_o may_v be_v a_o scandal_n it_o may_v again_o be_v answer_v that_o these_o lollard_n come_v too_o late_o to_o prescribe_v unto_o the_o church_n in_o any_o thing_n by_o they_o practise_v it_o may_v yet_o further_o be_v say_v that_o when_o people_n grope_v their_o way_n in_o a_o dark_a night_n it_o be_v no_o wonder_n if_o they_o now_o and_o then_o stumble_v they_o be_v to_o be_v both_o pity_v and_o pardon_v for_o last_o it_o be_v manifest_a if_o the_o testimony_n of_o their_o adversary_n concern_v they_o be_v admit_v that_o the_o lollard_n look_v upon_o even_a presbyter_n as_o a_o order_n no_o way_n approve_v of_o by_o god_n it_o be_v one_o of_o their_o maxim_n presbyteratus_n non_fw-la est_fw-la 〈◊〉_d approbatus_fw-la a_o deo_fw-la so_o that_o presbyter_n as_o well_o as_o bishop_n be_v by_o the_o same_o authority_n utter_o 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n it_o be_v another_o of_o their_o opinion_n 〈◊〉_d to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 566._o that_o no_o day_n be_v holy_a not_o the_o lord's-day_n or_o sabbath_n day_n as_o people_n will_v call_v it_o but_o that_o on_o every_o day_n man_n may_v work_v eat_v and_o drink_v etc._n etc._n if_o then_o the_o lollard_n err_v thus_o gross_o in_o these_o point_n it_o be_v no_o wonder_n that_o they_o be_v mistake_v in_o that_o of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o bishop_n but_o if_o their_o authority_n be_v 〈◊〉_d to_o establish_v presbyter_n in_o the_o power_n of_o ordain_v by_o the_o same_o authority_n it_o may_v be_v prove_v the_o lordsday_n be_v not_o holy_a yea_o rather_o 〈◊〉_d the_o order_n of_o presbyter_n be_v not_o approve_v of_o by_o god_n it_o be_v in_o vain_a for_o mr_n o._n to_o equal_v they_o unto_o bishop_n because_o the_o lollard_n bring_v they_o down_o as_o low_a as_o the_o people_n and_o utter_o cancel_v their_o office_n at_o least_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v of_o divine_a institution_n in_o short_a i_o think_v they_o be_v a_o well_o meaning_n but_o ignorant_a people_n who_o have_v 〈◊〉_d and_o knowledge_n enough_o to_o discover_v the_o gross_a superstition_n idolatry_n and_o corruption_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n but_o not_o to_o define_v the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n about_o government_n and_o discipline_n final_o note_v here_o that_o this_o instance_n of_o the_o lollard_n who_o appear_v at_o soon_a about_o the_o end_n of_o the_o 14_o century_n be_v by_o mr_n o._n bring_v in_o proof_n of_o this_o proposition_n that_o ordination_n by_o 126._o presbyter_n be_v valid_a in_o the_o primitive_a church_n now_o i_o do_v believe_v that_o there_o be_v one_o other_o author_n extant_a that_o pretend_v such_o 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into_o several_a congregation_n yet_o still_o there_o be_v but_o one_o bishop_n i_o do_v not_o remember_v that_o ever_o we_o read_v of_o two_o bishop_n of_o any_o one_o city_n in_o all_o antiquity_n except_v when_o the_o christian_n of_o that_o city_n be_v harrass_v and_o disturb_v with_o schism_n and_o division_n now_o who_o can_v imagine_v that_o no_o one_o city_n in_o the_o world_n even_o in_o ignatius_n time_n 97._o ever_o have_v more_o believer_n in_o and_o near_o it_o than_o do_v assemble_v for_o divine_a worship_n in_o one_o place_n especial_o in_o those_o time_n of_o persecution_n when_o the_o christian_n skulk_v and_o can_v not_o with_o safety_n meet_v in_o great_a number_n nor_o have_v room_n capacious_a enough_o and_o therefore_o canton_v themselves_o into_o several_a meeting_n let_v any_o one_o put_v all_o these_o thing_n together_o and_o impartial_o weigh_v they_o and_o he_o will_v not_o easy_o grant_v that_o paradox_n that_o there_o be_v no_o more_o than_o one_o single_a 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antioch_n as_o any_o one_o will_v confess_v his_o episcopal_a power_n must_v have_v extend_v unto_o some_o considerable_a compass_n of_o ground_n in_o the_o adjacent_a part_n of_o the_o country_n else_o it_o have_v be_v foolish_a to_o have_v pretend_v himself_o to_o be_v the_o bishop_n of_o syria_n when_o he_o be_v only_o bishop_n of_o antioch_n and_o of_o one_o congregation_n there_o will_v any_o one_o then_o suffer_v himself_o to_o believe_v 〈◊〉_d be_v bishop_n but_o of_o one_o congregation_n only_o it_o can_v enter_v into_o my_o head_n so_o much_o as_o to_o think_v it_o possible_a because_o it_o must_v be_v suppose_v there_o be_v congregation_n in_o syria_n as_o well_o as_o at_o antioch_n in_o country_n as_o 〈◊〉_d as_o city_n 3._o i_o reckon_v also_o that_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n consist_v of_o more_o than_o one_o congregation_n and_o my_o reason_n be_v 1._o as_o i_o argue_v in_o t._n n._n p._n 145._o
apostolical_a canon_n be_v in_o force_n before_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a than_o it_o be_v not_o the_o nieene_a council_n which_o alter_v the_o alexandrian_a custom_n as_o eutychius_n and_o selden_n suppose_v it_o have_v be_v a_o much_o more_o ancient_a practice_n it_o seem_v for_o the_o provincial_a bishop_n to_o ordain_v bishop_n and_o so_o eutychius_n be_v mistake_v in_o this_o point_n also_o if_o ever_o there_o be_v such_o a_o rule_n establish_v by_o mark_n at_o alexandria_n of_o presbyter_n ordain_v bishop_n or_o presbyter_n it_o be_v change_v before_o alexander_n or_o the_o nicene_n council_n yea_o before_o st._n cyprian_n time_n eight_o whereas_o eutychius_n assert_n there_o be_v no_o bishop_n in_o egypt_n till_o demetrius_n it_o be_v prove_v to_o the_o contrary_a by_o that_o most_o learned_a prelate_n bishop_n pearson_n from_o several_a good_a testimony_n and_o particular_o 10._o from_o the_o vetus_fw-la vita_fw-la marci_n and_o rabanus_n maurus_n abbot_n of_o fulda_n of_o both_o which_o mr._n selden_n likewise_o take_v notice_n the_o former_a write_v thus_o pentapolim_n pergit_fw-la marcus_n &_o ordinans_fw-la episcopos_fw-la per_fw-la regiones_fw-la illas_fw-la &_o clericos_fw-la iterum_fw-la alexandriam_fw-la venit_fw-la the_o latter_a thus_o ordinaverat_fw-la marcus_n pro_fw-la se_fw-la episcopum_fw-la annianum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d quoque_fw-la long_a lateque_fw-la 〈◊〉_d episcopos_fw-la mr._n selden_n to_o avoid_v the_o force_n of_o these_o testimony_n have_v invent_v this_o shift_n sc_n that_o mark_n make_v these_o bishop_n in_o pentapolis_n only_o and_o not_o in_o egpyt_n if_o one_o ask_v why_o mark_n shall_v make_v bishop_n in_o pentapolis_n and_o not_o in_o 〈◊〉_d also_o it_o will_v be_v hard_a for_o mr._n o._n to_o give_v a_o satisfactory_a answer_n to_o it_o beside_o it_o be_v say_v that_o mark_v make_v bishop_n per_fw-la regiones_fw-la illas_fw-la doubtless_o the_o meaning_n be_v through_o all_o the_o country_n that_o he_o travel_v between_o 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of_o abilius_n who_o succeed_v hananias_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o jerom_n chronicle_n we_o read_v that_o abilius_n be_v choose_v ex_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d graecorum_n traditionem_fw-la a_o sancto_fw-it luca_n ordinatus_fw-la est_fw-la that_o be_v abilius_n be_v choose_v out_o of_o the_o presbyter_n or_o from_o among_o they_o as_o jerom_n have_v it_o not_o by_o 〈◊〉_d and_o according_a to_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n be_v ordain_v by_o st._n luke_n furthermore_o 〈◊〉_d who_o write_v the_o life_n of_o the_o alexandrian_a patriarch_n inform_v we_o that_o cerdon_n who_o succeed_v abilius_n and_o cerdon'_v successor_n unto_o demetrius_n be_v ordain_v by_o the_o bishop_n out_o of_o that_o region_n that_o be_v egypt_n i_o suppose_v by_o all_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o there_o be_v bishop_n in_o egypt_n before_o demetrius_n who_o ordain_v the_o patriarch_n or_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n ten_o it_o be_v not_o like_a that_o 〈◊〉_d have_v any_o authentic_a record_n belong_v to_o the_o church_n of_o alexandria_n and_o egypt_n the_o saracen_n have_v destroy_v and_o burn_v they_o all_o long_o before_o eutychius_n be_v bear_v so_o that_o where_o he_o wander_v from_o the_o truth_n or_o when_o he_o 〈◊〉_d we_o must_v conclude_v he_o frame_v his_o annal_n and_o origines_fw-la out_o of_o his_o own_o brain_n or_o some_o uncertain_a monkish_a tradition_n and_o legend_n than_o currant_n among_o they_o to_o conclude_v suppose_v the_o alexandrian_a presbyter_n by_o st._n mark_n be_v appointment_n do_v elect_a the_o patriarch_n or_o bishop_n yea_o and_o ordain_v he_o too_o yet_o it_o must_v be_v confess_v that_o bishop_n however_o choose_v and_o ordain_v be_v as_o early_o as_o he_o and_o by_o divine_a right_n st._n mark_v be_v a_o person_n inspire_v and_o consequent_o have_v authority_n from_o god_n at_o least_o from_o the_o apostle_n to_o establish_v the_o government_n of_o the_o chuche_n which_o he_o found_v with_o what_o face_n then_o 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hope_v in_o this_o point_n may_v be_v ascribe_v unto_o the_o secret_a will_n and_o providence_n of_o god_n can_n mr._n o._n give_v i_o any_o other_o reason_n than_o such_o as_o these_o that_o the_o saxon_n and_o angli_fw-la in_o germany_n who_o overrun_v britain_n be_v no_o soon_o convert_v though_o tertullian_n reckon_v the_o german_n in_o general_n to_o have_v be_v christian_n in_o his_o time_n nor_o be_v the_o apostle_n themselves_o nor_o the_o apostolical_a man_n always_o successful_a in_o their_o endeavour_n st._n paul_n be_v forbid_v to_o preach_v in_o asia_n act_n 16._o 6._o it_o be_v a_o wretched_a way_n of_o prove_v a_o matter_n of_o fact_n in_o question_n from_o such_o slender_a probability_n by_o the_o like_a argument_n one_o may_v prove_v that_o all_o europe_n asia_n and_o africa_n embrace_v the_o gospel_n a_o thousand_o year_n since_o even_o the_o most_o northern_a scythian_n the_o most_o eastern_a indian_n and_o seres_n and_o the_o african_n about_o the_o cape_n of_o 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without_o vindicate_v it_o against_o the_o bishop_n but_o he_o seem_v to_o read_v book_n on_o purpose_n to_o furnish_v himself_o with_o little_a objection_n not_o with_o a_o disposition_n to_o hearken_v unto_o reason_n but_o to_o spin_v out_o and_o continue_v dispute_n for_o ever_o beside_o the_o north_n britain_n here_o so_o call_v by_o mr._n o._n be_v by_o bede_n in_o his_o history_n describe_v to_o be_v the_o most_o southern_a part_n of_o the_o now_o scotland_n adjoin_v unto_o england_n and_o call_v galloway_n or_o annandale_n on_o this_o side_n edinburgh_n but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o northern_a tramontaene_fw-la 〈◊〉_d beyond_o edinburgh_n whither_o we_o say_v the_o roman_n neither_o gentile_n nor_o christian_n nor_o the_o christian_a religion_n ever_o reach_v before_o columba_n settle_v at_o hylas_n who_o also_o come_v thither_o not_o from_o rome_n but_o ireland_n mr._n o._n far_o plead_v these_o word_n of_o bede_n
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the_o council_n of_o carthage_n anno_fw-la 419._o two_o roman_a presbyter_n and_o legate_n of_o the_o pope_n do_v philippus_n presbyter_n legatus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la romanae_fw-la asellus_n presbyter_n legatus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la romanae_fw-la but_o the_o chorepiscopi_fw-la subscribe_v in_o their_o own_o name_n without_o mention_v any_o delegation_n at_o all_o and_o therefore_o act_v by_o their_o own_o proper_a inherent_a authority_n and_o by_o consequence_n be_v real_a bishop_n have_v i_o presume_v prove_v that_o the_o chorepiscopi_fw-la have_v the_o true_a episcopal_a character_n impress_v on_o they_o i_o come_v to_o consider_v 141._o what_o advantage_n mr._n o._n will_v make_v of_o '_o they_o in_o the_o first_o place_n from_o the_o 10_o canon_n of_o ant._n a._n d._n 344_o or_o 341_o he_o lay_v it_o down_o that_o the_o chorepiscopi_fw-la or_o country_n bishop_n ordain_v presbyter_n until_o they_o be_v restrain_v by_o that_o canon_n i_o agree_v with_o mr._n o._n so_o far_o that_o 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patriarch_n nor_o have_v ever_o adhere_v to_o melitius_fw-la they_o thus_o then_o far_o write_v to_o the_o church_n of_o alexandria_n concern_v these_o latter_a and_o regular_a clergy_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n but_o as_o for_o those_o who_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n and_o through_o your_o prayer_n have_v be_v find_v in_o no_o schism_n but_o have_v ever_o stand_v firm_a and_o unmoveable_a in_o the_o catholic_n church_n it_o please_v the_o holy_a synod_n that_o they_o shall_v have_v power_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o point_v out_o and_o to_o give_v up_o the_o name_n of_o 〈◊〉_d as_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d worthy_a to_o be_v of_o the_o clergy_n and_o in_o short_a to_o do_v all_o thing_n according_a to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a law_n and_o constitution_n which_o be_v the_o passage_n misrepresent_v by_o mr._n o._n and_o mr._n baxter_n wherein_o the_o synod_n confirm_v to_o they_o their_o ancient_a right_n and_o privilege_n have_v give_v i_o hope_v a_o exact_a account_n of_o this_o latter_a part_n of_o that_o epistle_n let_v we_o now_o see_v whether_o mr._n baxter_n or_o mr._n o._n have_v do_v so_o to_o which_o end_n i_o observe_v that_o here_o be_v not_o one_o word_n of_o presbyter_n at_o least_o not_o of_o presbyter_n ordain_v and_o 〈◊〉_d of_o all_o of_o presbyter_n who_o have_v be_v ordain_v by_o melitius_fw-la nor_o last_o which_o be_v the_o thing_n mr._n o._n aim_v at_o of_o presbyter_n ordain_v minister_n 1._o they_o speak_v not_o of_o presbyter_n that_o be_v not_o in_o particular_a and_o express_o of_o they_o alone_o as_o be_v manifeft_v to_o any_o one_o that_o have_v his_o eye_n in_o his_o head_n but_o only_o in_o general_n of_o such_o as_o have_v not_o be_v engage_v in_o the_o melitian_n schism_n these_o sure_o must_v be_v bishop_n as_o well_o as_o presbyter_n or_o deacon_n the_o truth_n be_v they_o include_v all_o the_o three_o order_n and_o that_o be_v the_o reason_n in_o this_o whole_a epistle_n they_o name_v no_o one_o of_o they_o express_o mean_v to_o confirm_v they_o all_o as_o well_o bishop_n as_o presbyter_n that_o have_v stick_v close_o to_o alexander_n in_o their_o ancient_n respective_a power_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 2._o much_o more_o they_o speak_v not_o of_o the_o ordain_v power_n of_o presbyter_n mr._n o._n at_o least_o ought_v not_o to_o say_v so_o for_o what_o then_o will_v become_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o father_n 〈◊〉_d who_o assert_n that_o alexander_n or_o the_o nicene_n council_n first_o deprive_v they_o of_o it_o what_o do_v this_o synod_n or_o alexander_n both_o deprive_v they_o of_o it_o and_o confirm_v it_o to_o they_o that_o can_v be_v either_o then_o eutychius_n be_v out_o in_o his_o story_n or_o mr._n o._n be_v a_o little_a mistake_v about_o the_o letter_n of_o the_o nicene_n father_n beside_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o 〈◊〉_d to_o ordain_v but_o the_o 〈◊〉_d as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o one_o word_n to_o put_v up_o the_o name_n of_o the_o candidate_n for_o holy_a order_n and_o sozomen_n in_o his_o account_n of_o this_o fact_n use_v that_o single_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o choose_v socrates_n express_v it_o in_o two_o word_n as_o valesius_fw-la have_v observe_v exegetical_a of_o one_o another_o it_o be_v usual_a for_o author_n to_o embellish_v their_o write_n and_o give_v they_o a_o grateful_a emphasis_n by_o a_o variety_n and_o redundancy_n of_o expression_n no_o body_n at_o this_o diftance_n of_o time_n can_v tell_v all_o the_o custom_n of_o this_o church_n and_o what_o honorary_a 〈◊〉_d the_o presbyter_n may_v have_v at_o the_o public_a 〈◊〉_d however_o this_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o to_o be_v expound_v ordain_v and_o yet_o admit_v that_o it_o signify_v so_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o understand_v the_o passage_n of_o presbyter_n ordain_v it_o may_v as_o well_o be_v presume_v to_o be_v intend_v of_o bishop_n ordain_v there_o be_v no_o circumstance_n that_o limit_n the_o sense_n unto_o presbyter_n and_o as_o for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d these_o word_n be_v speak_v of_o those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v ordain_v and_o not_o of_o the_o ordainer_n and_o may_v as_o well_o be_v take_v to_o mean_v such_o as_o be_v think_v worthy_a to_o be_v bishop_n as_o those_o who_o be_v 〈◊〉_d worthy_a to_o 〈◊〉_d make_v presbyter_n for_o in_o the_o ancient_a ecclesiastical_a writer_n we_o read_v of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o least_o of_o all_o three_o do_v the_o nicene_n father_n speak_v here_o of_o the_o melitian_n presbyter_n because_o the_o melitian_n have_v not_o according_a to_o the_o character_n here_o give_v of_o these_o person_n stand_v firm_a and_o unmoveable_a in_o the_o catholic_n 〈◊〉_d but_o have_v be_v engage_v in_o the_o melitian_n schism_n nor_o 4._o do_v the_o synod_n speak_v of_o ordain_v minister_n if_o by_o minister_n our_o adversary_n understand_v presbyter_n which_o title_n they_o seem_v at_o this_o day_n to_o affect_v and_o usurp_v to_o themselves_o though_o it_o general_o denote_v all_o the_o three_o order_n these_o four_o mistake_n have_v mr._n o._n commit_v at_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o account_n of_o the_o nicene_n synod_n before_o i_o proceed_v to_o consider_v what_o he_o far_o advance_v on_o this_o occasion_n i_o will_v only_o note_v that_o the_o patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n have_v power_n over_o the_o bishop_n and_o whole_a church_n of_o egypt_n with_o its_o appendage_n long_o before_o the_o synod_n of_o nice_a that_o they_o have_v then_o power_n over_o these_o church_n appear_v plain_o from_o this_o epistle_n which_o in_o several_a place_n speak_v of_o they_o as_o subject_a to_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n that_o the_o alexandrian_a patriarch_n have_v power_n over_o they_o before_o the_o patriarch_n alexander_n be_v evident_a from_o the_o melitian_n schism_n which_o have_v not_o be_v a_o sinful_a schism_n if_o peter_n and_o 〈◊〉_d alexander_n predecessor_n have_v not_o have_v jurisdiction_n over_o they_o that_o this_o power_n of_o the_o patriarch_n be_v very_o ancient_a be_v also_o manifest_a from_o the_o 6_o canon_n of_o the_o nicene_n council_n which_o begin_v thus_o let_v the_o ancient_a custom_n obtain_v which_o be_v in_o egypt_n libya_n and_o pentapolis_n that_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n have_v power_n over_o all_o these_o province_n which_o show_v last_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o power_n through_o 〈◊〉_d libya_n and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o that_o it_o have_v be_v a_o ancient_a custom_n that_o be_v long_o before_o alexander_n and_o the_o synod_n of_o nice_a yea_o before_o peter_n and_o achillas_n thus_o much_o be_v say_v for_o the_o right_a understanding_n of_o that_o letter_n of_o the_o nicence_n father_n let_v we_o now_o proceed_v to_o examine_v what_o mr._n o._n have_v infer_v from_o the_o last_o mention_v passage_n according_a to_o mr._n baxter_n lamentable_a translation_n of_o it_o mr._n o._n argue_v if_o any_o say_v the_o meaning_n be_v that_o these_o presbyter_n shall_v ordain_v and_o govern_v with_o bishop_n but_o not_o with_o out_o they_o it_o be_v grant_v for_o the_o decree_n refer_v to_o the_o ecclesiastica_fw-la instituta_fw-la but_o this_o show_v that_o ordination_n belong_v to_o the_o presbyter_n office_n and_o consequent_o be_v no_o nullity_n though_o a_o irregularity_n as_o to_o the_o canon_n when_o it_o be_v do_v by_o they_o alone_o his_o meaning_n be_v as_o i_o take_v he_o that_o presbyter_n have_v a_o inherent_a and_o intrinsic_a power_n to_o ordain_v but_o that_o the_o nicene_n father_n have_v by_o their_o ecclesiastical_a constitution_n restrain_v that_o power_n so_o that_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v exert_v but_o with_o the_o bishop_n that_o when_o the_o presbyter_n do_v ordain_v without_o bishop_n it_o be_v only_o a_o irregularity_n 〈◊〉_d breach_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a constitution_n not_o a_o nullity_n but_o to_o this_o i_o reply_v 1._o that_o the_o nicence_n father_n as_o have_v already_o be_v observe_v speak_v not_o of_o presbyter_n only_o but_o of_o all_o the_o three_o order_n bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n who_o be_v hereby_o every_o one_o of_o they_o allow_v to_o do_v what_o proper_o belong_v to_o their_o own_o order_n according_a to_o the_o ancient_a custom_n and_o constitution_n of_o that_o church_n 2._o that_o therefore_o suppose_v their_o meaning_n to_o be_v what_o mr._n o._n will_v have_v it_o that_o presbyter_n in_o particular_a according_a to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a constitution_n shall_v ordain_v with_o the_o bishop_n and_o not_o without_o they_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o ordination_n by_o presbyter_n alone_o without_o bishop_n be_v vallid_a and_o only_o a_o irregularity_n because_o it_o may_v with_o as_o good_a reason_n be_v hence_o conclude_v that_o the_o presbyter_n power_n to_o ordain_v with_o the_o bishop_n belong_v to_o
the_o way_n of_o consecration_n that_o be_v lay_v on_o of_o hand_n as_o i_o apprehend_v mr._n o._n hence_o we_o must_v learn_v that_o before_o heraclas_n and_o dionysius_n the_o bishop_n be_v not_o consecrate_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n but_o bare_o elect_v etc._n etc._n that_o after_o 〈◊〉_d and_o dionysius_n the_o custom_n be_v alter_v and_o then_o they_o be_v consecrate_a by_o neighbour_a bishop_n with_o imposition_n of_o hand_n ans._n jerom_n teach_v we_o no_o such_o thing_n he_o be_v here_o only_o fall_v upon_o a_o new_a argument_n as_o i_o say_v before_o to_o advance_v the_o honour_n of_o presbyter_n above_o deacon_n sc_n that_o at_o alexandria_n the_o bishop_n be_v always_o choose_v ex_fw-la se_fw-la out_o of_o the_o presbyter_n say_v eutychius_n not_o out_o of_o the_o deacon_n though_o the_o custom_n be_v afterward_o change_v about_o the_o time_n of_o heraclas_n and_o dionysius_n or_o not_o until_o alexander_n as_o 〈◊〉_d nevertheless_o be_v bishop_n from_o the_o begin_n consecrate_a by_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n for_o any_o thing_n jerom_n intimate_v and_o which_o eutychius_n have_v affirm_v as_o may_v also_o be_v reasonable_o presume_v and_o gather_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n record_v in_o the_o epistle_n to_o timothy_n yea_o and_o from_o jerom_n himself_o in_o the_o follow_a period_n excepta_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la eutychius_n his_o word_n be_v the_o eleven_o presbyter_n lay_v their_o hand_n on_o the_o bishop_n elect_n and_o bless_a and_o create_v he_o patriarch_n this_o rule_n be_v make_v by_o mark_n himself_o mr._n o._n after_o a_o long_a quotation_n out_o of_o eutychius_n thus_o triumph_n 129._o here_o be_v a_o full_a proof_n of_o presbyter_n choose_v and_o create_v their_o bishop_n and_o that_o by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o benediction_n or_o prayer_n ans._n 1._o and_o here_o be_v a_o full_a proof_n that_o bishop_n be_v from_o the_o beginning_n and_o be_v create_v also_o by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o mr._n o._n just_a before_o deny_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o jerom_n and_o be_v now_o to_o have_v prove_v if_o he_o have_v stick_v close_o to_o his_o argument_n but_o it_o must_v be_v confess_v eutychius_n do_v assert_v the_o alexandrian_a presbyter_n choose_v and_o create_v their_o own_o bishop_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o benediction_n wherefore_o 2._o not_o to_o insift_v any_o more_o on_o the_o incompetency_n of_o eutychius_n his_o authority_n a_o late_a obscure_a and_o false_a historian_n i_o ask_v how_o mr._n o._n will_v be_v able_a to_o reconcile_v jerom_n with_o eutychius_n the_o former_a affirm_v as_o mr._n o._n understand_v he_o that_o the_o presbyter_n choose_v and_o set_v up_o their_o bishop_n unto_o heraclas_n and_o dionysius_n than_o it_o seem_v this_o custom_n cease_v the_o latter_a unto_o alexander_n that_o be_v to_o say_v eutychius_n will_v have_v this_o custom_n to_o have_v continue_v 90_o year_n long_o than_o jerom_n assign_v it_o eutychius_n say_v the_o presbyter_n all_o that_o while_o ordain_v their_o patriarch_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n jerom_n no_o such_o matter_n but_o rather_o the_o contrary_a they_o only_o as_o mr._n o._n will_v have_v it_o choose_v place_v and_o name_v he_o bishop_n we_o must_v then_o dismiss_v they_o both_o as_o the_o evangelist_n do_v the_o witness_n against_o our_o lord_n their_o witness_n do_v not_o agree_v together_o i_o only_o add_v that_o the_o 6_o canon_n of_o the_o nicene_n council_n seem_v to_o overturn_v at_o least_o eutychius_n his_o testimony_n let_v the_o ancient_a custom_n continue_v which_o i_o understand_v of_o all_o thing_n establish_v by_o this_o synod_n and_o among_o the_o rest_n that_o of_o the_o neighbour_a bishop_n in_o egypt_n ordain_v the_o patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n for_o if_o this_o synod_n as_o eutychius_n believe_v at_o the_o motion_n of_o alexander_n the_o patriarch_n have_v alter_v the_o old_a custom_n with_o what_o face_n can_v they_o have_v lay_v down_o this_o rule_n let_v the_o ancient_a custom_n continue_v or_o be_v it_o wisdom_n to_o exasperate_v the_o alexandrian_n with_o a_o new_a decree_n when_o they_o be_v already_o engage_v in_o schism_n and_o contention_n about_o the_o melitian_n ordination_n to_o shut_v up_o this_o chapter_n whatever_o jerom_n shall_v be_v make_v to_o say_v concern_v the_o alexandrian_a presbyter_n choose_v place_v and_o nominate_v their_o bishop_n he_o no_z where_o affirm_v they_o ordain_v he_o by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o prayer_n he_o acquaint_v we_o that_o the_o apostle_n ordain_v bishop_n in_o their_o time_n not_o the_o college_n of_o presbyter_n if_o afterward_o the_o presbyter_n of_o alexandria_n choose_v and_o create_v their_o bishop_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n it_o be_v at_o best_a but_o a_o ecclesiastical_a indulgence_n for_o which_o there_o be_v no_o rule_n or_o precedent_n to_o be_v find_v in_o scripture_n or_o in_o the_o apostle_n day_n but_o i_o be_o well_o satisfy_v that_o in_o truth_n there_o can_v be_v no_o such_o liberty_n allow_v they_o neque_fw-la 〈◊〉_d aliquid_fw-la cviquam_fw-la largiri_fw-la potest_fw-la humana_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ubi_fw-la intercedit_fw-la &_o legem_fw-la tribuit_fw-la divina_fw-la 67._o proescriptio_fw-la this_o principle_n of_o st._n cyprian_n who_o flourish_v about_o 250_o show_v also_o that_o in_o the_o day_n of_o heraclas_n and_o dionysius_n that_o be_v anno_fw-la 222_o the_o bishop_n have_v not_o yet_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o dispense_v with_o any_o divine_a precept_n and_o therefore_o can_v not_o have_v give_v or_o decree_v unto_o bishop_n the_o sole_a inherent_a power_n of_o ordination_n or_o restrain_v the_o presbyter_n if_o they_o have_v any_o title_n to_o it_o from_o the_o apostle_n chap._n xiii_o of_o the_o carthaginian_a council_n it_o be_v to_o be_v wish_v that_o when_o man_n build_v a_o argument_n upon_o the_o testimony_n of_o a_o author_n they_o will_v 〈◊〉_d read_v and_o weigh_v he_o and_o be_v sure_a to_o understand_v he_o too_o before_o they_o 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