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A20517 A reply to M. Nicholas Smith, his discussion, of some pointes of M. Doctour Kellison his treatise of the hierarchie. By a divine Divine.; Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640?; Kellison, Matthew. 1630 (1630) STC 6929; ESTC S109712 163,687 351

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assertion_n pag._n 376._o n._n 2._o which_o affirm_v it_o to_o be_v the_o divine_a law_n that_o every_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n such_o as_o be_v england_n spain_n france_n shall_v have_v its_o bishop_n be_v moderate_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o assertion_n of_o sotus_n who_o say_v that_o every_o diocese_n by_o the_o divine_a law_n in_o the_o aforesayed_a sense_n must_v have_v its_o bishop_n and_o to_o this_o purpose_n only_o he_o cite_v sotus_n and_o therefore_o that_o be_v not_o modest_o nor_o true_o say_v of_o m._n nicholas_n but_o odiouslie_o and_o not_o so_o charitable_o as_o may_v be_v expect_v of_o he_o in_o the_o 10._o number_n towards_o the_o end_n where_o he_o he_o say_v final_o m._n doctor_n i_o doubt_v not_o will_v be_v more_o circumspect_a in_o allege_v author_n lest_o he_o do_v wrong_v his_o own_o reputation_n the_o author_n themselves_o the_o reader_n and_o most_o of_o all_o the_o truth_n rather_o m._n nicholas_n shall_v have_v be_v more_o modest_a and_o 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n._n 5._o that_o the_o state_n of_o inferior_a pastor_n and_o regulas_fw-la do_v exceed_v and_o be_v exceed_v of_o one_o another_o in_o diverse_a respect_n for_o say_v he_o if_o we_o demand_v which_o state_n be_v more_o profitable_a to_o one_o self_n less_o dangerous_a and_o more_o sure_a than_o the_o religious_a state_n in_o this_o respect_n take_v the_o precedence_n but_o if_o you_o demand_v which_o state_n contine_v 6._o n._n 6._o mains_fw-fr dei_fw-la obsequium_fw-la great_a service_n of_o god_n &_o perfectiora_fw-la opera_fw-la ex_fw-la genete_fw-la she_o requirit_fw-la and_o require_v more_o perfect_a operation_n of_o their_o kind_n then_o say_v he_o the_o state_n of_o these_o inferior_a pastor_n be_v in_o itself_o and_o of_o itself_o perfect_a than_o the_o state_n of_o a_o religious_a man_n and_o in_o this_o sort_n speculativelie_a it_o may_v be_v grant_v that_o the_o pastoral_a state_n be_v perfect_a than_o the_o regular_a state_n mat._n s._n th._n in_o c._n 5._o mat._n and_o this_o s._n thomas_n upon_o s._n matthew_n seem_v to_o favour_v as_o suarez_n confess_v 55._o and_o so_o whereas_o m._n nicholas_n nu_fw-la 14._o prove_v that_o a_o regular_a state_n be_v perfect_a than_o the_o state_n of_o a_o inferior_a pastor_n because_o 2_o pastor_n may_v enter_v into_o religion_n without_o dispensation_n his_o argument_n prove_v only_o that_o a_o regulars_n state_n be_v more_o sure_a for_o one_o own_o salvation_n cütra_fw-la s._n th._n 2.2_o q_o 184.7_o arg_fw-mi sed_fw-la cütra_fw-la and_o so_o may_v be_v elect_v and_o vow_v but_o not_o that_o it_o be_v a_o high_a or_o perfect_a state_n i_o grant_v that_o s._n thomas_n prove_v that_o a_o religious_a state_n be_v inferior_a to_o the_o state_n of_o a_o bishop_n because_o a_o religious_a man_n may_v become_v a_o bishop_n and_o his_o argument_n be_v good_a because_o a_o religious_a man_n can_v accept_v of_o a_o bishop_n office_n because_o it_o be_v more_o sure_a as_o be_v manifest_a and_o therefore_o if_o he_o may_v 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state_n but_o only_o ergo_fw-la a_o religious_a man_n have_v a_o more_o secure_a state_n 56._o but_o in_o a_o controversy_n so_o much_o dispute_v and_o wherein_o to_o give_v sentence_n may_v provoke_v the_o one_o party_n or_o the_o other_o i_o will_v leave_v the_o judgement_n thereof_o to_o the_o judicious_a reader_n who_o by_o what_o be_v say_v for_o inferior_a pastor_n will_v peradventure_o judge_v it_o more_o probable_a that_o inferior_a pastor_n shall_v worthy_o be_v prefer_v in_o state_n of_o perfection_n and_o as_o m._n nicholas_n pag._n 103._o num._n 7._o refer_v his_o reader_n to_o platus_n a_o regular_a concern_v the_o regular_a state_n so_o will_v i_o and_o with_o less_o exception_n refer_v he_o to_o one_o philippe_n the_o harue_v a_o regular_a and_o learned_a abbot_n concern_v the_o clergy_n and_o all_o pastor_n even_o inferior_a 57_o this_o man_n be_v abbot_n of_o a_o monastery_n call_v bona_fw-la spes_fw-la good_a hope_n and_o he_o write_v above_o four_o hundred_o and_o 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his_o 17._o epistle_n he_o say_v that_o from_o all_o the_o bound_n and_o limit_n of_o the_o earth_n all_o antiquity_n do_v ever_o extol_v the_o clericall_a order_n and_o ever_o give_v it_o among_o the_o other_o order_n the_o principal_a rank_n and_o degree_n and_o though_o by_o the_o divine_a disposition_n a_o soldier_n or_o rustic_a do_v excellin_a sanctity_n yet_o the_o clergy_n man_n in_o excellency_n of_o ecclesiastical_a dignity_n and_o although_o the_o clergy_n man_n as_o we_o do_v sometime_o decline_v to_o wordly_a thing_n and_o to_o the_o weak_a and_o poor_a element_n yet_o their_o order_n decline_v not_o in_o authority_n in_o his_o 84._o chapter_n he_o say_v that_o the_o bless_a s._n benedict_n sound_v many_o monastery_n and_o instruct_v and_o inform_v many_o monk_n by_o the_o good_a and_o wholesome_a document_n he_o leave_v to_o posterity_n and_o be_v not_o read_v to_o have_v be_v priest_n yet_o want_v not_o perfection_n of_o a_o monk_n nor_o do_v he_o think_v it_o any_o disparagement_n to_o his_o monastical_a institute_n that_o his_o monk_n shall_v not_o contend_v to_o excel_v other_o in_o holy_a order_n but_o in_o holy_a manner_n consider_v that_o the_o promotion_n to_o order_n make_v not_o a_o monk_n but_o abjection_n and_o vilify_n of_o one_o self_n labour_n silence_n discipline_n rest_n religion_n and_o in_o his_o 99_o chapter_n habeant_fw-la sibi_fw-la matorem_fw-la monachi_fw-la sanctitatem_fw-la relinquentes_fw-la clericis_fw-la maiorem_fw-la humiliter_fw-la dignitatem_fw-la let_v monk_n keep_v to_o themselves_o great_a sanctity_n leave_v humble_o to_o clergy_n man_n great_a dignity_n and_o in_o his_o 98._o and_o 97._o chapter_n 462._o pag._n 462._o he_o say_v that_o s._n hierome_n do_v therefore_o invite_v heliod_n paulinus_n and_o rusticus_n to_o be_v monk_n not_o because_o he_o think_v more_o base_o of_o the_o clergy_n but_o because_o he_o esteem_v their_o state_n as_o more_o worthy_a so_o not_o so_o secur_v and_o therefore_o say_v
delineate_v in_o these_o thing_n which_o pertain_v to_o meat_n drink_n cloth_n habitation_n and_o manner_n of_o life_n poverty_n obedience_n chastity_n so_o that_o neither_o do_v azorius_fw-la hold_n it_o as_o certain_a that_o the_o apostle_n or_o first_o christian_n be_v religious_a 3._o s._n th._n 2.2_o q._n 88_o be_v 8._o ad_fw-la 3._o though_o before_o he_o have_v cite_v s._n thomas_n who_o say_v they_o vow_v the_o thing_n that_o pertain_v to_o perfection_n yea_o and_o s._n austin_n who_o say_v that_o the_o apostle_n vow_v poverty_n 887._o aug._n li._n 17._o de_fw-fr civit._n dei_fw-la c._n 4._o sarm_v supra_fw-la p._n 1._o defe_n pag._n 887._o to_o which_o place_n franciscus_n sarmiento_n answer_v that_o s._n austin_n by_o vow_n in_o that_o place_n understand_v a_o full_a purpose_n of_o keep_v poverty_n which_o purpose_n say_v he_o the_o apostle_n leave_v when_o they_o be_v no_o more_o disciple_n but_o master_n and_o pastor_n 78._o cajetan_v a_o regular_a principal_a thomist_n and_o cardinal_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o 19_o chapter_n of_o s._n matthew_n explicate_v these_o word_n vade_fw-la &_o vende_v omne_fw-la etc._n etc._n &_o vent_v sequere_fw-la me_fw-it go_v &_o sell_v all_o etc._n etc._n and_o come_v and_o follow_v i_o have_v these_o word_n attend_v lector_n quod_fw-la nullum_fw-la indicitur_fw-la à_fw-la jesv_n votum_fw-la volenti_fw-la perfectionem_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la assequi_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la in_o vinculis_fw-la votorum_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o operibus_fw-la consistit_fw-la perfectionis_fw-la assecutio_fw-la laudabilia_fw-la sunt_fw-la vota_fw-la religionis_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la in_o illorum_fw-la professione_n sed_fw-la operibus_fw-la quibus_fw-la imitamur_fw-la jesum_fw-la christum_fw-la acquiritur_fw-la perfectio_fw-la infinitus_fw-la est_fw-la hodie_fw-la numerus_fw-la eorum_fw-la qui_fw-la acquirunt_fw-la perfectionis_fw-la statum_fw-la profit_n endo_fw-la religionis_fw-la vota_fw-la sed_fw-la rari_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la volunt_fw-la esse_fw-la perfecti_fw-la imitando_fw-la jesum_fw-la factis_fw-la humilitatis_fw-la patientiae_fw-la mansuetudinis_fw-la charitatis_fw-la etc._n etc._n mark_v reader_n that_o no_o vow_n be_v denounce_v or_o command_v from_o jesus-christe_a to_o he_o that_o will_v attain_v to_o perfection_n of_o life_n because_o the_o attain_n of_o perfection_n consist_v not_o in_o the_o bond_n of_o vow_n but_o in_o work_n by_o which_o we_o imitate_v jesus_n christ_n laudable_a the_o vow_n of_o religion_n yet_o not_o in_o their_o profession_n but_o in_o work_n by_o which_o we_o imitate_v jesus_n christ_n perfection_n be_v get_v there_o be_v at_o this_o day_n a_o infinite_a number_n of_o those_o who_o get_v a_o state_n of_o perfection_n by_o profess_v the_o vow_n of_o religion_n but_o rare_a they_o be_v who_o wilbe_n perfect_a by_o imitatim_fw-la jesus_n in_o work_n of_o humility_n patience_n mildness_n charity_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o caietan_n be_v of_o opinion_n that_o in_o the_o place_n of_o scripture_n allege_v there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o vow_n and_o yet_o they_o who_o hold_v that_o the_o apostle_n be_v religious_a out_o of_o this_o place_n especial_o prove_v the_o three_o vow_n of_o religion_n and_o see_v that_o without_o vow_n a_o man_n can_v be_v religious_a if_o out_o of_o this_o place_n it_o can_v not_o as_o caietan_n think_v be_v prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n vow_v it_o can_v not_o out_o of_o this_o place_n be_v prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n be_v religious_a vow_n be_v necessary_a to_o make_v a_o man_n religious_a 79._o 5._o suarez_n to_o 3._o de_fw-fr relig._n l._n 2._o c._n 15._o n_o 13.14_o 15.16_o vasqu_n to_o 2._o in_o 1.2_o disp_n 164._o c._n 4._o &_o 5._o but_o suppose_v the_o apostle_n and_o first_o christian_n vow_v yet_o do_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v religious_a for_o that_o as_o suarez_n and_o vasquez_n do_v confess_v the_o three_o vow_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o make_v one_o a_o relig_n ous_a man_n but_o the_o order_n and_o institute_n must_v be_v approve_v either_o by_o the_o bishop_n in_o his_o diocese_n as_o ancienthe_n it_o be_v or_o by_o the_o pope_n as_o afterward_o be_v decree_v and_o the_o religious_a his_o vow_n must_v be_v accept_v of_o the_o superior_a who_o have_v jurisdiction_n over_o he_o and_o authority_n to_o receive_v his_o vow_n and_o what_o certainty_n be_v there_o that_o the_o apostle_n and_o first_o christian_n live_v in_o a_o order_n approve_v by_o christ_n or_o s._n peter_n or_o that_o their_o vow_n be_v accept_v by_o christ_n or_o s._n peter_n as_o sufficient_a to_o make_v they_o religious_a see_v that_o h●ly_a scripture_n say_v nothing_o of_o any_o such_o acceptation_n 80._o 9_o suarez_n to_o 3._o l._n 3_o de_fw-la auttore_fw-la &_o orig_n &_o antiqu_fw-la status_fw-la relig_n c._n 2._o ●_o 9_o i_o confess_v that_o the_o learned_a suarez_n defend_v that_o the_o apostle_n vow_v poverty_n chastity_n &_o obedience_n and_o be_v religious_a &_o that_o christ_n not_o only_o institute_v a_o religious_a state_n in_o general_a in_o regard_n of_o the_o three_o counsel_n but_o also_o make_v a_o religion_n in_o particular_a to_o which_o he_o call_v the_o apostle_n eye_v proprium_fw-la &_o particularem_fw-la modum_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la religiosae_fw-la tribuendo_fw-la give_v to_o they_o a_o proper_a and_o particular_a manner_n of_o live_v 10._o nu._n 10._o and_o this_o particular_a manner_n of_o live_v he_o say_v consist_v in_o a_o life_n mix_v partly_o contemplative_a partly_o active_a in_o endeavour_v the_o conversion_n of_o soul_n but_o yet_o his_o proof_n out_o of_o scripture_n do_v only_o prove_v that_o chariste_n institute_v the_o counsel_n and_o commend_v they_o what_o he_o allege_v out_o of_o some_o author_n proove_v only_o that_o the_o apostle_n vow_v the_o counsel_n which_o yet_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o make_v they_o religious_a as_o we_o have_v see_v what_o he_o bring_v out_o of_o other_o author_n only_o prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n give_v example_n of_o religious_a l●f●_n by_o live_v at_o first_o in_o common_a and_o by_o observe_v poverty_n chastity_n and_o obedience_n but_o not_o that_o they_o be_v religious_a though_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o some_o author_n do_v affirm_v that_o the_o apostle_n be_v religious_a which_o yet_o may_v be_v understand_v not_o that_o they_o be_v properl●e_a and_o compleatelie_o religious_a but_o only_o for_o that_o they_o observe_v or_o vow_v the_o three_o evangelicall_a counsel_n 81._o 5._o to._n 2._o in_o 1._o 2._o disp_n 4._o &_o 5._o wherefore_o vasquez_n resolve_v the_o matter_n thus_o his_o praemissis_fw-la quod_fw-la attinet_fw-la ad_fw-la station_n religionis_fw-la distinguendum_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n these_o thing_n premise_v we_o must_v distinguish_v concern_v the_o state_n of_o religion_n for_o either_o to_o have_v institute_v the_o state_n of_o religion_n be_v all_o one_o as_o to_o have_v invent_v &_o excogitated_a it_o and_o to_o have_v propose_v it_o to_o 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followet_v that_o the_o erection_n of_o a_o religious_a state_n do_v pertain_v to_o the_o positive_a law_n or_o to_o the_o will_n of_o the_o humane_a legislatour_n for_o that_o the_o three_o vow_n make_v have_v not_o this_o by_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n or_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n to_o constitute_v he_o that_o vow_v under_o the_o jurisdiction_n peculiarlie_o require_v to_o religion_n of_o a_o head_n or_o superior_a but_o this_o agree_v to_o they_o by_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n or_o chief_a bishop_n thus_o he_o and_o see_v it_o can_v not_o be_v show_v out_o of_o scripture_n or_o counsel_n or_o ancient_a auctour_n that_o the_o apostle_n make_v their_o vow_n of_o the_o three_o counsel_n under_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o a_o head_n who_o accept_v their_o vow_n it_o can_v not_o so_o clear_o be_v show_v that_o they_o be_v proper_o &_o compleatelie_o religious_a though_o they_o have_v vow_v the_o three_o counsel_n which_o be_v the_o substance_n of_o all_o religious_a it_o be_v true_a that_o christ_n be_v head_n to_o the_o apostle_n and_o
electour_n take_v place_n of_o all_o patriarch_n and_o be_v in_o dignity_n next_o to_o the_o pope_n and_o so_o cardinal_n though_o they_o have_v no_o order_n as_o most_o of_o they_o have_v holy_a order_n yea_o many_o of_o they_o be_v bishop_n yet_o in_o this_o respect_n to_o wit_n as_o the_o hierarchy_n consist_v of_o diverse_a degree_n in_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o dignity_n which_o be_v the_o second_o way_n by_o which_o m._n doctor_n say_v that_o man_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o above_o bishop_n archbishop_n and_o patriarch_n next_o to_o the_o pope_n now_o whether_o this_o their_o dignity_n of_o cardinal_n be_v of_o the_o divine_a law_n as_o turrecremata_fw-la think_v or_o of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a law_n i_o will_v not_o dispute_v but_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o m._n doctor_n ten_o chapter_n certain_a at_o least_o it_o be_v that_o the_o pope_n can_v institute_v such_o a_o dignity_n by_o which_o the_o cardinal_n though_o not_o in_o 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to_o prove_v regulars_n to_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n he_o have_v labour_v in_o vain_a not_o have_v be_v able_a te_fw-la prove_v regulars_n as_o regulars_n to_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o he_o do_v wrong_a to_o those_o most_o eminent_a prelate_n and_o pillar_n of_o god_n church_n as_o though_o they_o can_v not_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n unless_o regulars_n also_o be_v whereas_o cardinal_n by_o their_o dignity_n and_o by_o the_o care_n which_o they_o have_v in_o govern_v under_o the_o pope_n the_o universal_a church_n be_v assure_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o it_o consist_v of_o diverse_a degree_n in_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o dignity_n as_o m._n doctor_n say_v they_o even_o as_o cardinal_n though_o not_o priest_n have_v the_o high_a rank_n and_o ecclesiastical_a dignity_n and_o office_n in_o the_o external_a court_n of_o all_o the_o prelate_n of_o the_o church_n whereas_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n bear_v no_o rule_n nor_o office_n in_o the_o church_n and_o so_o 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