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A06555 The English iarreĀ· or disagreement amongst the ministers of great Brittaine, concerning the Kinges supremacy. VVritten in Latin by the Reuerend Father, F. Martinus Becanus of the Society of Iesus, and professour in diuinity. And translated into English by I.W. P.; Dissidium Anglicarum de primatu Regis. English Becanus, Martinus, 1563-1624.; Wilson, John, ca. 1575-ca. 1645? 1612 (1612) STC 1702; ESTC S121050 28,588 66

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The King by vertue of his supreme Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction shall be able to present vnto Free Chappell 's c. 2. Now M. Tooker to the contrary denyeth it pag. 36. where talking of the Kings of England he saith thus Beneficia autem curata vel non curata non conf●runt omnino in quempiam maiora minoráue multò minus dignitates Ecclesiasticas siue Episcopatus siue Archiepiscopatus per vniuersum ambitum Regni sui Eorum certè collatio vel institutio est quorum est destitutio id est Episcoporum Comprouincialium qui potestat●m habent personas ipsas sacrandi Hoc habet iuris Regia Maiestas quod minor subordinata potestas habet ius inquā n●minandi praesentandi apud nos c. Kings do not at all collate or bestow vpon any man benefices that haue care of soules or not care greater or lesser much lesse Ecclesiasticall dignities whether Bishopri●kes or Archbishoprickes throughout the whole circuite of their Kingdomes For this truly belongeth vnto those whose office it is to dispose therof to wit to the Comprouinciall Bishops who haue power to consecrate the said persons on whome they bestow them Indeed the Kings Majesty notwithstanding hath this right with vs in Englād which an inferiour and subordinate power also hath to wit right to nominate and present vnto benefices c. 3. Behould heere a triple Iarre or discord betwene these two Authors and this in a dayly and vulgar matter The first is that M. Henry Salclebridg saith that the collation of benefices belongeth to the Kings of England in that they be the Primates of the Church of England M. Tooker saith to the contrary that it belongeth not to Kings at all but to Bishops The second Iarre is that M. Salclebridge saith that Kings by their owne authority haue conferred benefices M. Tooker saith that they neuer do nor haue done The third is that M. Salclebridge saith that Kings by vertue of their supreme Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction may present vnto benefices M. Tooker auerreth that in this point Kings haue no more right then their subiects other inferiour persons for so he saith Hoc ha●et iuris Regia Maiestas quod minor subordinata potestas habet The Kings Maiesty hath in this point of conferring benefices the same right that an inferiour subordinate power hath c. Whether of these two then should King Iames belieue if he had a fat benefice or an Archbishopricke now to bestow IX Question VVhether the King can create and depose Bishops or no 1. MAISTER Salclebridge saith that he can For thus he writeth pag. 121. Christiani Principes in suis Regnis cum laude propria authoritate Episcopos crearunt deposuerunt Christian Prices haue in their Kingdomes by their owne proper authority created and deposed Bishops and that with praise c. And then againe pag. 144. Rex Angliae Archidiacono Richmundiae Episcopal●m concessit Iurisdictionem The King of England graunted Episcopall Iurisdiction to the Archdeacon of Richmond c. And yet further pag. 155. Reges Angliae suprema sua authoritate de iure atque cum laude omnium Ordinum Episcopos eleger●nt ac proinde deponere potu●runt The Kings of England of their owne supreme authority by right with praise of all māner Estates haue elected Bishops and therfore they might depose them also c. And then lastly Constat Christianos Prin●ipes cum laude Episcopos elegisse deposuisse etiam Romanos It is manifest that Christian Princes haue elected deposed Bishops yea Popes also and that with their praise c. 2. Now M. Tooker he denyes in the place before cited that the King can create or depose Bishops For there he assigning two things necessary for the ordayning or creating of a Bishop to wit Consecratiō of the person a Bishopricke addeth that the King can performe neyther of these two For neyther can he confer any benefice● and much lesse a Bishopricke or Archbishopricke neyther hath he any power to cōsecrate persons In so much that in another place he confesseth that it is so far off from King Iames to haue power to create or depose Bishops that he would rather acknowledg himselfe for one of their schollers and Disciples For thus he wryteth pag. 311. Serenissimus ac pientissimus Rex noster Iacobus non habet quicquam antiquius honorificentius quàm vt cum Valentiniano filium se Ecclesiae profiteatur cum Theodorico Italiae Rege se alumnum Ecclesiae discipulum Archiepiscoporum suorum Episcoporum libenter recognoscat Our most Gratious and most pious King Iames doth esteeme or accompt nothing more noble and more honorable then with Valentinian the Emperour to professe himselfe a sonne of the Church and with Theodoricus King of Italy most willingly to acknowledge himselfe a foster-child of the Church and a disciple of his Archbishops and Bishops c. 3. This Iarre now as you see is of great momēt For if the King cannot create or ordaine Bishops as M. Tooker saith he cannot then it followeth euidently that Thomas Cranmer who was made Archbishop of Canterbury by the King Henry the 8. was no true but a false Bishop no pastour but a robber one that entred not into the sheepfold by the dore but climbed vp some other way Whereof againe ensue three other markable points First that all other Bishops who were afterward eyther created by Crāmer or by the King were like vnto Cranmer himselfe Secondly whatsoeuer was done of them by Episcopall authority or Iurisdiction was of no validity or force Thirdly that they so ordained are bound to restitution of all reuenewes and profits which they haue reaped by their Bishopricks What coun●●ll now is there to be taken in this point Let your Academicks I pray you consider X. Question VVhether the King can excommunicate his obstinate subiects or no 1. HEERE now do our aduersaries ranke their King amongst ordinary men what they graunted vnto him before heere now they seeme to reuoke For they say that the King cannot excommunicate any of his subiects and yet himselfe may be excommunicated by them and expelled out of the Church of England wherof himself is supreme Head The former part herof doth M. Tooker affirme pag. 15. in these worlds Rex non habet potestatem distringendi gladium spiritualem vel quempiam excōmunicandi The King hath no power to vnsheath the spirituall sword nor to excommunicate any man c. And the Chaplaine my Lord of Ely pag. 151. saith Nos Principi censurae potestatem non facimus We do not giue authority to our Prince to vse Censures c. And againe M. Tompson pag. 83. Excōmunicare nullo modo ad Supr●matum Ecclesiae pertinet To excommunicate doth no way belong to the Supremacy of the Church And againe pag. 84. Omnes fatemur R●gem excomunicandi potestatem nullam habere We do all confesse that the King hath no power to excommunicate c.
disputed of The first is of assembling or calling togeather of Synods The second of enacting of Ecclesiasticall lawes The third of cōferring or bestowing of benefices The fourth of creating deposing of Bishops The fifth is about Excommunication The sixt and last is about the decision and determining of Controuersies The question then is whether these offices belong to the Kings Primacy I will speake a word of ech in order 2. First it may be demaunded whether the King by vertue of his Primacy may of his owne authority call or assemble togeather Synods and therin sit as chiefe and head This was certainly persuaded that it might be done in the tyme of King Henry K. Edward and Queene Elizabeth but now vnder King Iames the matter is called into question M. Salclebridge pag. 121. affirmeth that he can do it in these words Christiani Principes in Regnis suis cum laude propria auctoritate Synodos conuocarunt Constitutiones condiderūt causas audierunt cognouerunt Christian Princes haue with great praise assembled Synods by their owne authority in their Kingdomes haue made Constitu●ions heard and examined causes c. And againe pag. 146. Rex Angliae potest Synodos indi●●re omnium Ordinum Oecumeni●as in ijsdem praesidere The King of ●ngland saith he may as●emb●e Generall Councells of all Orders or degrees and therin sit as President or Chiefe c. And pag. 155. he saith in like manner Reges Angliae suprema sua authoritate de iure Synodos conuocarunt The Kings of ●ngland haue by th●ir owne supreme authority and by ●●ght ass●mbled Synods c. 3 Now M To●ker in this poynt is very variable one while contradicting himselfe another while others And this is manifest out of the diuers testimonies he produceth The first is pag. 37. where he hath these words A quibus magis aequum est indici Concilia● quàm ab illis● penes quos semper ●uit authoritas ●a congregandi Cùm autem communit●r triplex pon● soleat Concilium Generale Prouinciale Dioec●sanum Concilium G●n●rale solius Papae iussu celebrari vultis sed neque illud nisi ab Imp●ratoribus Regibus simul consentient●bus hodie indici debet Prouinciale à Metropolita●o cum suis Suffragancis Dioecesanum ab Episcopo cum Curatis● R●ctoribus Clericis Dioeceseos c. By whome is it more fit that Councells should be assembled then by those in whose power hath alwayes authority byn to call them togeather For wheras commonly there be 3. sortes of Councells Generall Proui●ciall of a particuler Diocesse the Generall Councell you will haue to be celebrated only by commandment of the Pope but yet not so neyther now a dayes vnlesse Emperors Kings do agree therunto also A Prouinciall Coun●ell is to be assembled by the Metropolitan and his Su●fragans th●t of the Diocesse by the Bishop therof togea●her with the Curates Recto●s and Clarkes of ●he same Bishopricke c. Out of which testimony we may gat●er that the K. of England cannot assemble a Councell of his owne authority Not a gene●all because that belongeth to the common consent of Kings and Emperours Not a Prouinciall because that pertayneth to the Metropolitan Not of the D●ocesse because that belongeth to the Bishop therof What then I pray you is left vnto the King 4. Another testimony heerof is out of the same M. ●ooker pag. 41. in these wor●s Abundè liquet ex Cōcilijs ipsis historia Ecclesiastica ●r●uincial●a Concilia Nationalia ab Imperatoribus a● Regibus fuisse congregata It is aboūdantly manifest out of the Coū●els themselues and the Ecclesiasticall Historyes that Prouinciall and Nationall Councels haue byn assembled by Emperours and Kings c. This now is plainely repugnant to his former testimony For there he affirmeth that Prouinciall Councells are to be assembled by the Metropolitans therof heere he saith ●hat they must be assembled by Kings and Emperours There is distinguished o●ly a threefould Councell● to wit Generall Prouinciall● ● and that of the Diocesse heere now is added a four●h to wit Nationall 5. His third testimony is set downe pag. 42. where he propo●eth this question Quo igitur iure tantam sibi potestat●m arrogat Pontif●x solus Num diuino ●y what right then I pray you doth the Pope challenge vnto himselfe alone so great power Doth he do it by diuine right c. And a little after he addeth Erat Apostolorum omnium non vnius tant●mmodo indicere Concilium statuere cum verborum solennitate Visum est Spiritui sancto Nobis c. It belonged to all the Apos●les not to one alone to assemble a Councell and with solemnity of words to ordaine It seemes good vnto the Holy Ghost and Vs c. As if he would say That as by diuine right not S. Pet●r alone but all the Apostles togeather with equall power did assemble the fi●st Coūcell at Ierusalem therin decreed that law about eating of bloud and strangled meates so in like manner by diuine right not the Pope alone but all Bishops with equall power must assemble Councells and decree Ecclesiasticall lawes Surely if it be so then without doubt it followes that the power to call or assemble Councells doth not belong by the law of God to secular Kings and Princes but to the Apostles and their success●urs c. 6. His fourth testimony is pag. 63. where he saith Mixtum aut●m ius r●suit●ns ●x vt●oque iure Regio Episcopali est Legum sanctio Synodorum indictio praes●dendi in ijs praer●gatiu● controu●rs●arū decisio aliorumque actuum qui his finitimi sunt ex●rcitium quae f●rè ab origine Prima●us R●gij desc●ndunt communicantur Sac●r●oti●u c The decreing or enacting of Lawes the assembling of Synodes Prerogatiue of ●it●ing therin as chiefe or head as also the exercise of all other offices in this kind is a certaine mixt Right proceeding from both Kingly and Episcopall power which things do in a manner come downe or descend from the origen of the Kings Primacy and are communicated or in parted vnto Priests c. This now againe as you see is contrary to that which he said next before For there he will needs haue the assembly of Synods or Councels to belong by diuine right to the Apostles heere forsooth he will haue the same chiefely to belong to Kinges and from them to be deriued vnto Bishops These things do not agree one with another VII Question VVhether the King can enact Ecclesiasticall Lawes or no 1. IT is cleere that K. Henry the 8. did aswell by himselfe as by his Vicar Generall Cromwell enact Ecclesiasticall Lawes For so saith Doctor Sanders in his booke of the Schisme of England His di●bus vigilantissimus hic Ecclesiae Pastor Henri●us quo in posterum sciretur quae cui rite nupta esset legem ediderat perpetuam de Nuptijs Comitior●m etiam auctoritate ●onfirmatam qua
statuchatur vt si quae p●rsonae in L●uitico non prohibitae solo cons●nsu per verba de praesenti matrimonium nulla carnis copula subsecuta contraxerint●eae verò ambae postea vel earum altera nuptijs cum altera persona in L●uitico non prohibita contractis ca●nali copula easd●m consumma ●erint hae post●riores quas firmasset copula non priores illae quas solus cons●nsus sta●u●ss●t ratae atque legitimae haber●ntur adeo vt cùm olim iuris Gentium fuiss●t Regula Nuptias non concubitus sed consensus facit ●am dein●●ps H●nrici r●gula esse coeperit Nuptias non consen●us sed concubitus facit Et tam●n ips● Legis-lator contra suam ipsius regulam vxorem Annam Cliu●ns●m cuius nuptias non solo consensu sed sept●m etiam mensium concu●itu firmau●rat eo solùm praetextu r●iccit i●saque viu●nte aliam superinduxit quòd alt●ri nes●io cui cons●nsum antea praebuisse fin●●r●tur Huius ergo legis tantop●re postea puduit ipsos Prot●stant●s vt mortuo Henrico eam ipsi r●uocauerint atque irritam f●c●rint c In these dayes the most vigilan● Pastor of the Church K. H●nry that it might be knowne to posterity what woman were lawfully married to another enacted a perpetuall law concerning Marriage authorizing the same by publicke Decree of Parlament wherin it was orda●ned that if any persons not prohibited in the Leuiticall law should contract marriage by only consent and by words de praes●nti no carnall copulation following the same and that the said persons or eyther of them ●hould afterward contra●t with another person not prohibited in the Leuiticall law consumm●te the same by carnall copulation that then these later contractes which were consūmated by carnall copulation not the former that were agreed vpon by only consent should be accompted for good and lawfull In so much tha● wheras the rule of the law of Nations in old tyme was That consent not carnall copulation did make the marriage lawfull now heereafter by the law of K. Henry it began to be a rule That carnall copulation not consent did make marriage lawfull And yet for all this the law-maker himselfe K. Henry did against his owne proper rule and law reiect Anne of Cleeue his wife whose marriage was not only contracted by consent alone but consummated also by seauen moneths carnall copulation vpon this only pretence that she had giuen her consent to another before I know not whome and vpon this fiction he married another she yet remayning aliue And of this law afterward the Protestants themselues were so much ashamed that after K. Henryes death they recalled and disanulled the same c. 2. Concerning his Vicar Generall Cromwell thus wryteth also the said Doctor Sanders in the same booke Septembri mense authoritate sua Vicaria Canones quosdam Ecclesiasticos quos Iniunctiones vocabat sigillo Vicariatus sui munitos Archiepis●opis Episcopis Abbatibus reliquo Clero praescripsit in quibus praeter cetera iube●antur Parochi sub grauissimis poenis vt Orationem Dominicam cum salutatione Angelica Symbolum item fidei decem Decalogi praecepta aliaque huiusmodi Anglicè in posterum in Ecclesijs docerent In the moneth of September K. Henryes Vicar Generall by the authority of his Office prescribed certayne Ecclesiasticall Canons which he called Iniunctions signed with the seale of his Office of Vicar-Generall to the Archbishops Bishops Abbots and the rest of the Clergy wherin among●t other things the Pastors of C●urches were com●●nded vnder most seuere punishmēt herafter to read in their Churches the Lords prayer the Aue Mary the Creed and ten Comaundements in English c. 3. Now our English Aduersaries that wryte in these daies of the Kings Supremacy do not agree in this point For that some of them say that the enacting of decreeing of Ecclesiasticall lawes doth by diuine right belong vnto Bishops others say that it belongeth to Kings and Emperours The first opinion holdeth M. Tooker pag. 42. of his booke where he saith that the Apostles in the first Councell at Hierusalem did enact this Ecclesiasticall law Visum est Spiritui Sancto nobis nihil vltra imponere vobis oneris nisi haec necessaria vt abstineatis vos ab immolatis simulachrorum sanguine suffocato It hath seemed good to the holy Ghost and to vs to lay no further burthen vpon you then these necessary things that you abstayne frō the things immolated to Idols and from bloud and that which is strangled c. And this saith he the Apostles did by diuine right The other opinion holdeth M. Tompson pag. 80. where he affirmeth that Bishops and Councels cannot enact or decree any Ecclesiasticall law which hath the force of law vnlesse Kings and Emperours consent therunto His words are these Decreta Conciliorum Patrum Ecclesiasticis Censuris 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 tantùm stetiss●nt nisi legum vim Caesarea aura ipsis afflasset The Decrees of the Councels and of the Fathers had bene held but only for Ecclesiasticall censures and penalties vnlesse the Emperours fauour had imparted the force of lawes vnto the said Decrees c. 4. Heere now the Iarre is euident For without doubt that Ecclesiasticall law which the Apostles decreed had the force of a law for that so much is gathered out of these words Visum est nihil vltra imponere vobis oneris nisi haec necessaria It hath seemed good to lay no further burthen vpon you then these necessary things c. But this Ecclesiasticall law had not it force from any fauour of the Emperor seing that neither Tyberius nor Pilate nor Herod nor any other fecular Prince which then liued did by his fauour authorize the force of the law but that it came from the Apostles themselues For that they by their Apostolicall authority and power which they had receiued from Christ did decree and promulgate that law And the same power authority haue Bishops now a dayes not Kings nor Emperours VIII Question vvhether the King by his owne proper authority may conferre collate or bestow Ecclesiasticall benefices 1. THAT the King may conferre Ecclesiasticall liuings M. Henry Salclebridge affirmeth pag. 121 in these wordes Christiani Principes in suis R●●ni● 〈…〉 authoritate ben●ficia contul●runt 〈…〉 in their owne Kingdomes by their owne proper authority haue giuen or bestowed benefices and that to their praise c. And then againe pag. 150. Audin I●suita non modò collationes ben●ficiorum ad Angliae Reg●s sp●c●are sed ad eosd●m illos spectare vti Ecclesiae Anglicanae Primates vel supremos Ordinarios c. Do you heare Iesuite the collation of benefices doth not only belong to the Kings of England but also it doth belong vnto them as they are Primates or supreme Ordinaries of the Church of England c. And yet more Rex ratione supremae suae Ecclesiasticae iurisdictionis praesentabit ad liberas Capellas
them to Idolatry Shall they then obay these Princes commaund ●ut then should they do against their Consciences Shall they refuse to obay Then farewell Primacy of the Church Perhaps they will answere that they will obay when they thinke good Shall therfore subiects be Iudges of their Kings May then the Catholickes in England say after this manner If it pl●ase your Maiesty in this point we thinke good to obay your Maiestyes commaund but in that not XIII Question VVhether the King may constraine his Subiects to take the Oath of Prmacy or no 1. HITHERTO haue we treated of the Iarring disagreement of our Aduersaries abou● the nature offices origen of the King● Primacy Now there remaineth a certaine practicall question which toucheth the Consciēce to the quicke to wit whether the King may constraine or force his Subiects to sweare that they acknowledge his Kingly Primacy wherof we haue spoken before Or whether they will acknowledg the King as Primate and supreme Head of the Church of ●ngland vnto whome as vnto their Primate supreme Head they will promise fidelity no lesse in Ecclesiasticall and Spirituall matters then in Politicke and temporall This question hath two points The first whether the King of England doth de facto exact or hath at any time exacted such an Oath of his subiects The other is whether his subiects are bound in conscience to take such an Oath if the King should exact the same Of both these points seuerally I meane to speake a word or two The first Point 2. The first point then is Whether the King of England doth exact or at any tyme hath exacted such an Oath of his subiects It is manifest that K. Henry the 8. did For so wryteth Doctor Sanders in his booke of the Schisme of England Laurentius Cocchus Prior Coenobij Dancastrensis vnà cum tribus Monachis duobus laicis Aegidio Horno Clemente Philpotto quòd nollent Ecclesiasticum terreni Regis Primatum iuratò confiteri exclusi è terris ad caelestem aeterni Regis gloriam transmissi sunt Laurence Coch Prior of the Monasterie of Dancaster togeather with three Monkes and two Laymen Giles Horne and Clement Philpot for that they would not sweare to the Ecclesiasticall Primacy of a temporall King being excluded from earth were transl●ted to a celestiall glory of the eternall King c. And then againe Proponebantur eis noua Comitiorum Decreta iubebantur iureiurando affirmare Regem Ecclesiae supremum esse Ca●ut The new decrees of the Parlament were propounded vnto them they were commaunded to sweare the King to be supreme Head of the Church c. 3. Now that Queene ●lizabeth the danghter followed heerin her Father K. Henry it is manifest by the forme of Oath that she exacted of her subiects which is this ●go A. B prorsus testificor declaro in conscientia mea Reginam ●sse solam supremam Gubernatricem istius Regni Angliae aliorū omnium suae Maiestatis dominiorum regionum non minùs in omnibus spiritualibus atque Ecclesiasticis rebus vel causis quàm temporalibus Et quòd nemo externus Princeps Persona Praelatus Status vel Potentatus aut facto aut iure habet aliquam iurisdiction●m potestatem superioritatem praeeminentiam vel authoritat●m ●cclesiasticam aut spiritualem in hoc Regno Ideoque planè renuntio repudio omnes forinsecas iurisdictiones potestates superioritates atque authoritates c. I A. B. do verily testify and declare in my conscience that the Queene is the only supreme Gouernesse aswell of this Kingdome of England as of all other her Maiesties dominions and count●eys aswell in all spirituall and Ecclesiasticall matters and causes as in temporall And that no forrayne Prince Person Prelate State or Potentate hath eyther by fact or right any Iurisdiction power superiority preheminence or authority Ecclesiasticall or spirituall in this Kingdome And therfore I do vtterly renounce and abandone all forrayne Iurisdictions powers superiorities and authorityes c. 4. The very same also doth now King Iames who byndeth his subiects not with one Oath alone but with two to wit of Supremacy and Allegiance The former Oath of Supremacy beginneth thus Ego A. B. palàm testor ex conscientia mea declaro quod Maiestas Regia● vnicus est supremus Gubernator huius Regni omniumque aliorum suae Maiestatis dominiorum territoriorum tam in omnibus spiritualibus siue Ecclesiasticis rebus causis quàm in temporalibus Et quòd nullus extraneus Princeps Persona Praelatus Status aut Potentatus habet aut habere debet vllam iurisdictionem potestatem superioritatem praeeminentiā vel authoritatem Ecclesiasticam siue spiritualem intra hoc Regnum c. I A. B. do publikely testify and in my conscience declare that the Kings Maiesty is the only supreme Gouernour of this Kingdome and of all other his Maiesties dominions and territories as well in all matters and causes spirituall or Ecclesiasticall as in temporall And that no forraine Prince Person Prelate State or Potentate hath or ought to haue any Iurisdiction power superiority preheminence or authority Ecclesiasticall or spirituall within this Kingdome c. The later Oath called of Allegiance beginneth thus Ego A. B. verè sincerè agnosco profiteor testificor declaro in conscientia mea coram Deo Mundo qùod supremus Dominus noster Rex Iacobus c. I A. B. do truly and sincerely acknowledg professe and testify in my conscience before God and the world that our Soueraigne Lord King Iames c. 5. Bo●h these Oathes are set downe at large in his Maiesties Apology and in both of them his subiects are required publickely and openly to professe acknowledge● that King Iames is the supreme Gouernour and Lord of all England not only in politicke and temporall matters but in spirituall and Ecclesiasticall also And that neither the Pope nor any other forrayner hath any power or Iurisdiction in or ouer the Church of ●ngland Againe the former of these Oathes was brought in by King Henry the 8. as his Maiesty confesseth in his Apology in these words Sub Henrico octauo primùm introductum est Iuramentum Primatus sub eo●ue Thomas Morus Rof●ensis supplico af●●cti idque partim ob eam causam quòd Iuram●ntum illud recusarent Ab eo deinceps omnes mei Praedecessores quotquot sunt hanc Religionem amplexi idem sibi aut non multò secus asseruerunt c. The Oath of Primacy was first brought in vnder K. Henry the 8. vnder whome Syr Thomas More and the Bishop of Roc●ester were beheaded and that partly because they refused that Oath From him all my Predecessours downward as many as haue imbraced this Religion did retayne the same Oath or not much different vnto themselues c. Now the later Oath was inuented by K. Iames himselfe The second Poynt 6. The Question then is whether all