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B05064 A modest answer to Dr. Stillingfleet's Irenicum: by a learned pen. Rule, Gilbert, 1629?-1701. 1680 (1680) Wing R2223; ESTC R203177 121,671 175

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much_o certainty_n as_o amount_v to_o plerophory_n and_o do_v dispel_v all_o degree_n of_o darkness_n and_o doubt_v this_o we_o assert_v not_o that_o every_o one_o may_v attain_v such_o be_v the_o darkness_n of_o man_n mind_n neither_o be_v it_o needful_a to_o this_o that_o we_o look_v upon_o what_o the_o apostle_n do_v as_o be_v juris_fw-la divini_fw-la if_o we_o mean_v so_o much_o certainty_n as_o do_v incline_v the_o mind_n to_o the_o one_o part_n and_o not_o leave_v it_o in_o suspense_n we_o assert_v that_o this_o may_v be_v attain_v in_o reference_n to_o what_o be_v in_o question_n 2._o the_o matter_n in_o debate_n be_v very_o obscure_o if_o not_o fraudulent_o express_v by_o these_o word_n what_o course_n the_o apostle_n take_v in_o govern_v church_n the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o we_o can_v know_v every_o thing_n that_o they_o do_v in_o this_o for_o many_o particular_n be_v comprehend_v in_o this_o general_a expression_n but_o whether_o we_o can_v know_v if_o the_o settle_a presbyter_n act_v in_o parity_n or_o bishop_n act_v with_o authority_n over_o presbyter_n as_o the_o ordinary_a officer_n of_o the_o church_n 3._o it_o be_v not_o fair_a deal_n to_o imply_v as_o this_o proposition_n do_v that_o we_o infer_v the_o only_a divine_a right_n of_o one_o form_n from_o bare_a apostolical_a practice_n he_o know_v that_o we_o walk_v upon_o other_o ground_n viz._n we_o take_v christ_n command_n of_o imitate_v the_o apostle_n the_o parity_n between_o our_o case_n and_o they_o which_o may_v make_v the_o morality_n of_o our_o practice_n to_o be_v the_o same_o with_o they_o 4._o it_o be_v not_o the_o one_o form_n which_o several_a party_n imagine_v to_o come_v near_o to_o apostolical_a practice_n but_o that_o which_o be_v prove_v to_o be_v real_o the_o same_o with_o it_o we_o plead_v for_o it_o be_v not_o man_n imagination_n but_o scriptural_a ground_n which_o we_o establish_v that_o correspondency_n upon_o we_o be_v assert_v between_o apostolical_a practice_n and_o what_o we_o will_v have_v to_o be_v now_o in_o the_o church_n the_o antithesis_fw-la then_o which_o we_o maintain_v against_o this_o his_o proposition_n be_v this_o that_o they_o who_o search_v the_o scripture_n may_v come_v to_o be_v satisfy_v on_o good_a ground_n whether_o the_o apostle_n in_o plant_v church_n do_v settle_v presbyter_n act_v in_o parity_n or_o bishop_n rule_v over_o presbyter_n as_o their_o ordinary_a officer_n so_o as_o they_o may_v consider_v the_o duty_n lay_v on_o we_o to_o follow_v they_o and_o the_o parity_n of_o our_o case_n with_o they_o infer_v the_o divine_a right_n of_o that_o one_o form_n of_o these_o two_o which_o be_v use_v by_o the_o apostle_n for_o proof_n of_o this_o our_o antithesis_fw-la i_o refer_v to_o the_o consideration_n lay_v down_o p._n 184_o 185._o about_o the_o perfection_n of_o scripture-history_n and_o its_o design_n to_o instruct_v we_o in_o this_o point_n which_o do_v so_o far_o prevail_v with_o i_o that_o i_o look_v upon_o the_o author_n proposition_n as_o such_o a_o reflection_n on_o scripture_n that_o any_o but_o a_o papist_n may_v be_v ashamed_a of_o to_o this_o i_o add_v that_o the_o argument_n bring_v for_o presbyterial_a government_n by_o the_o assertor_n of_o it_o do_v evident_o destroy_v the_o author_n proposition_n and_o do_v establish_v our_o antithesis_fw-la which_o see_v he_o do_v not_o intend_v nor_o endeavour_n to_o answer_v we_o need_v not_o insist_v upon_o a_o further_a confirmation_n of_o our_o antithesis_fw-la shall_v be_v to_o take_v off_o the_o argument_n that_o he_o have_v bring_v for_o his_o proposition_n which_o i_o now_o come_v to_o sect._n 11._o his_o first_o argument_n be_v p._n 287._o from_o the_o equivalency_n of_o the_o name_n and_o doubtfulness_n of_o their_o signification_n from_o which_o the_o form_n of_o government_n use_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n shall_v be_v determine_v he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v hot_o plead_v on_o both_o side_n that_o the_o form_n of_o government_n must_v be_v derive_v from_o the_o importance_n of_o the_o name_n bishop_n and_o presbyter_n and_o that_o there_o can_v be_v no_o way_n to_o come_v to_o a_o determination_n what_o the_o certain_a sense_n of_o these_o name_n be_v in_o scripture_n he_o make_v out_o the_o uncertainty_n by_o lay_v down_o four_o opinion_n about_o the_o signification_n of_o these_o name_n and_o from_o this_o variety_n of_o interpretation_n infer_v that_o we_o can_v know_v what_o sense_n they_o be_v to_o be_v take_v in_o ans_fw-fr 1._o when_o he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v plead_v on_o both_o side_n that_o the_o form_n of_o government_n must_v be_v derive_v from_o the_o name_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n this_o be_v a_o misrepresentation_n for_o 1._o there_o be_v argument_n from_o which_o it_o may_v well_o be_v derive_v though_o these_o name_n shall_v never_o be_v mention_v 2._o when_o we_o dispute_v from_o these_o name_n it_o be_v not_o from_o the_o bare_a force_n of_o the_o word_n but_o from_o this_o that_o the_o scripture_n do_v often_o apply_v these_o name_n to_o the_o same_o thing_n never_o to_o divers_a officer_n in_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o ground_n for_o assert_v the_o difference_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n this_o be_v a_o sure_a argument_n than_o what_o can_v be_v draw_v from_o the_o importance_n of_o name_n answ_n 2._o it_o be_v most_o false_a and_o injurious_a to_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n speak_v in_o his_o word_n to_o say_v that_o there_o can_v be_v no_o way_n to_o determine_v what_o be_v the_o certain_a sense_n of_o these_o name_n in_o scripture_n we_o must_v then_o say_v that_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n speak_v that_o which_o can_v be_v understand_v if_o he_o use_v name_n and_o word_n to_o express_v some_o thing_n to_o we_o and_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o know_v what_o be_v mean_v by_o they_o when_o we_o hear_v of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n in_o any_o place_n of_o scripture_n either_o we_o must_v say_v that_o these_o word_n signify_v nothing_o or_o that_o they_o mean_v somewhat_o but_o no_o man_n can_v know_v what_o it_o be_v or_o that_o we_o may_v come_v to_o know_v what_o be_v mean_v by_o they_o the_o former_a two_o be_v foul_a reflection_n on_o the_o author_n of_o holy_a scripture_n yea_o it_o be_v a_o reflection_n on_o a_o man_n to_o speak_v or_o write_v in_o a_o book_n design_v for_o instruction_n that_o which_o either_o have_v no_o meaning_n or_o such_o as_o can_v be_v know_v the_o 3d_o contradict_v our_o author_n assertion_n his_o proof_n of_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o the_o signification_n of_o these_o name_n we_o have_v meet_v with_o before_o in_o the_o like_a case_n it_o be_v a_o most_o unhappy_a and_o inconsequential_a reason_n man_n have_v divers_a way_n understand_v these_o word_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n ergo_fw-la they_o can_v be_v understand_v at_o all_o they_o must_v have_v a_o meaning_n and_o it_o be_v our_o duty_n to_o search_v it_o out_o however_o man_n differ_v about_o it_o there_o be_v better_a reason_n bring_v by_o presbyterian_o to_o prove_v that_o these_o two_o name_n signify_v the_o same_o thing_n which_o be_v incumbent_a on_o this_o author_n to_o answer_v and_o not_o to_o shift_v the_o matter_n with_o say_v that_o other_o man_n think_v otherwise_o i_o shall_v give_v but_o this_o instance_n or_o hint_n which_o may_v satisfy_v any_o what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o these_o word_n in_o scripture_n tit._n 2._o the_o apostle_n leave_v in_o crete_n titus_n to_o ordain_v elder_n or_o presbyter_n verse_n 5._o and_o tell_v he_o how_o they_o must_v be_v qualify_v verse_n 6_o and_o give_v this_o reason_n why_o they_o must_v have_v such_o qualification_n verse_n 7._o for_o a_o bishop_n must_v be_v blameless_a if_o a_o bishop_n be_v another_o thing_n than_o a_o presbyter_n to_o what_o purpose_n be_v this_o reason_n here_o bring_v ergo_fw-la they_o be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o thing_n and_o if_o any_o affirm_v that_o these_o word_n signify_v different_a thing_n in_o any_o place_n of_o scripture_n let_v he_o prove_v it_o and_o we_o shall_v yield_v the_o cause_n i_o may_v also_o show_v that_o the_o same_o office_n and_o work_n be_v every_o where_o in_o scripture_n lay_v on_o both_o these_o and_o that_o never_o any_o thing_n be_v give_v to_o the_o one_o but_o what_o be_v give_v to_o the_o other_o but_o this_o have_v be_v do_v and_o other_o argument_n manage_v full_o by_o our_o writer_n against_o episcopacy_n neither_o have_v mr._n still_v have_v the_o confidence_n to_o answer_v they_o though_o destroy_v this_o his_o assertion_n and_o therefore_o i_o shall_v supersede_n this_o labour_n for_o the_o name_n of_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n the_o argument_n bring_v from_o it_o be_v not_o we_o but_o our_o opposite_n sect._n 12._o his_o 2d_o argument_n for_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o apostolical_a practice_n p._n 290._o
certain_o the_o magistrate_n personal_o consider_v be_v subject_a to_o the_o roll_a power_n of_o pastor_n in_o spiritual_a thing_n as_o they_o be_v subject_a to_o he_o in_o civil_a thing_n and_o to_o deny_v this_o what_o be_v it_o but_o to_o make_v the_o supreme_a magistrate_n head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o not_o a_o member_n of_o it_o much_o more_o worthy_a to_o be_v receive_v be_v the_o opinion_n of_o crysostome_n who_o speak_v thus_o to_o ecclesiastical_a person_n in_o reference_n to_o abstention_n from_o the_o lord_n supper_n si_fw-la dux_fw-la igitur_fw-la quispiam_fw-la si_fw-la consul_n ipse_fw-la si_fw-la qui_fw-fr diademate_n ornatur_fw-la indignus_fw-fr adeat_fw-la cohibe_fw-la ac_fw-la coerce_fw-la majorem_fw-la tu_fw-la illo_fw-la habès_fw-fr authoritatem_fw-la §_o 6._o he_o come_v afterward_o p._n 43._o to_o ascribe_v to_o the_o magistrate_n not_o only_o a_o political_a power_n which_o he_o make_v to_o lie_v in_o the_o execution_n and_o administration_n of_o law_n for_o the_o common_a good_a but_o also_o a_o architectonical_a and_o nomothetical_a power_n though_o not_o absolute_a and_o independent_a whereby_o he_o may_v make_v law_n in_o thing_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o church_n his_o meaning_n in_o this_o he_o express_v more_o full_o in_o the_o end_n of_o p._n 44._o in_o matter_n say_v he_o undetermined_a by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n concern_v the_o external_a policy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n the_o magistrate_n have_v the_o power_n of_o determine_v thing_n so_o they_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o because_o he_o know_v that_o the_o church-guide_n will_v put_v in_o for_o this_o power_n that_o here_o he_o give_v to_o the_o magistrate_n therefore_o p._n 45._o he_o labour_v to_o reconcile_v these_o party_n by_o a_o distinction_n or_o two_o viz._n between_o declare_v christ_n law_n and_o make_v new_a law_n and_o between_o advise_v what_o be_v fit_a and_o determine_v what_o shall_v be_v do_v the_o declare_v and_o advise_v power_n be_v give_v by_o he_o to_o the_o church_n the_o authoritative_a determine_a power_n to_o the_o magistrate_n for_o p._n 46._o the_o great_a use_n say_v he_o of_o synod_n and_o assembly_n of_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v as_o the_o council_n of_o the_o church_n unto_o the_o king_n as_o the_o parliament_n be_v for_o matter_n of_o civil_a government_n and_o p._n 47._o but_o yet_o say_v he_o when_o such_o man_n thus_o assemble_v have_v grave_o and_o matural_o advise_v and_o deliberate_v what_o be_v fit_a to_o be_v do_v the_o force_n strength_n and_o obligation_n of_o the_o thing_n so_o determine_v do_v depend_v on_o the_o power_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n against_o this_o doctrine_n before_o i_o come_v to_o examine_v the_o reason_n that_o he_o bring_v for_o it_o i_o have_v these_o thing_n to_o say_v 1._o it_o must_v be_v note_v by_o pass_v over_o which_o in_o silence_n our_o author_n have_v confound_v the_o matter_n that_o we_o be_v not_o here_o speak_v of_o thing_n that_o be_v proper_o civil_a though_o belong_v to_o the_o church_n viz._n as_o it_o be_v a_o society_n and_o in_o the_o commonwealth_n such_o as_o church-rent_n meeting-place_n liberty_n of_o the_o use_n of_o they_o etc._n etc._n but_o of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n as_o it_o be_v a_o church_n of_o its_o discipline_n which_o thing_n be_v proper_o the_o external_a policy_n of_o that_o church_n as_o our_o author_n term_v that_o which_o he_o speak_v of_o now_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o the_o power_n of_o determine_v these_o be_v in_o the_o church-guide_n or_o the_o magistrate_n 2._o that_o which_o be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o ground_n of_o most_o of_o this_o author_n mistake_n be_v he_o suppose_v that_o some_o thing_n of_o this_o church-policy_n be_v so_o leave_v undetermined_a by_o the_o word_n that_o they_o be_v capable_a of_o a_o determination_n by_o man_n legislative_a power_n and_o that_o new_a law_n may_v be_v make_v about_o they_o this_o be_v not_o truth_n for_o if_o we_o speak_v of_o the_o substantial_o of_o church-government_n even_o of_o a_o particular_a form_n it_o be_v determine_v in_o the_o word_n and_o so_o not_o subject_a to_o man_n nomothetical_a determination_n if_o of_o the_o circumstance_n of_o it_o neither_o be_v these_o leave_v for_o man_n to_o make_v law_n about_o they_o but_o they_o be_v determine_v by_o the_o lord_n in_o the_o general_a rule_n that_o be_v in_o the_o word_n and_o the_o dictate_v of_o right_a reason_n compare_v with_o they_o and_o the_o obligation_n that_o lie_v on_o our_o conscience_n in_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o from_o the_o magistrate_n law_n though_o we_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o he_o may_v add_v his_o sanction_n to_o both_o sort_n of_o thing_n and_o make_v they_o the_o law_n of_o the_o nation_n as_o dr._n stillingsleet_n say_v well_o that_o he_o may_v with_o any_o thing_n in_o religion_n but_o from_o the_o will_n of_o god_n which_o ought_v to_o be_v search_v out_o and_o hold_v forth_o authoritative_o by_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v act_v in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n 3._o it_o be_v false_a than_o that_o the_o magistrate_n have_v power_n in_o determine_v what_o of_o the_o external_n policy_n of_o the_o church_n be_v undetermined_a in_o the_o word_n for_o if_o we_o speak_v of_o that_o which_o be_v not_o determine_v at_o all_o neither_o by_o particular_a precept_n or_o example_n or_o otherwise_o signify_v particular_o the_o mind_n of_o christ_n about_o such_o a_o thing_n viz._n by_o the_o general_a rule_n of_o the_o word_n compare_v with_o right_a reason_n be_v not_o hold_v forth_o to_o be_v the_o mind_n of_o christ_n such_o thing_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v determine_v by_o any_o man_n or_o man_n but_o be_v leave_v to_o christian_a liberty_n for_o such_o thing_n must_v be_v determine_v mere_o by_o man_n will_n but_o the_o lord_n have_v not_o leave_v the_o matter_n of_o his_o church_n to_o that_o crooked_a rule_n 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officer_n he_o shall_v have_v say_v presbyter_n for_o of_o officer_n it_o be_v not_o question_v on_o either_o hand_n over_o other_o be_v not_o contrary_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o gospel_n 2._o that_o it_o be_v not_o repugnant_a to_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n in_o apostolical_a time_n for_o man_n to_o have_v power_n over_o more_o than_o one_o particular_a congregation_n these_o say_v he_o follow_v though_o their_o office_n be_v suppose_v extroardinary_a and_o that_o they_o act_v as_o evangelist_n ans_fw-fr it_o will_v follow_v indeed_o from_o these_o example_n that_o superiority_n be_v not_o contrary_a to_o nature_n nor_o to_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o gospel_n church_n also_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o it_o be_v not_o contrary_a to_o gospel_n institution_n that_o the_o lord_n shall_v immediate_o when_o he_o see_v cause_n appoint_v such_o superiority_n and_o what_o if_o we_o say_v it_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v not_o contrary_a to_o gospel_n institution_n that_o in_o 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institution_n be_v against_o bishop_n see_v he_o appoint_v the_o rest_n and_o leave_v they_o out_o ut_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la puritas_fw-la retineatur_fw-la credimus_fw-la omnes_fw-la pastor_n ubicunque_fw-la collocati_fw-la sint_fw-la eadem_fw-la &_o aequali_fw-la potestate_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la esse_fw-la praeditos_fw-la than_o there_o can_v be_v no_o imparity_n of_o power_n sub_fw-la uno_fw-la illo_fw-la capite_fw-la &_o solo_fw-la universali_fw-la episcopo_fw-la jesus_n christi_fw-la the_o dutch_a church_n art_n 30._o thus_o credimus_fw-la veram_fw-la have_v ecclesiam_fw-la debere_fw-la regi_fw-la ac_fw-la gubernari_fw-la spirituali_fw-la illa_fw-la politia_fw-la quam_fw-la nos_fw-la deus_fw-la ipse_fw-la in_o verbo_fw-la svo_fw-la edocuit_fw-la ita_fw-la ut_fw-la sint_fw-la in_o ea_fw-la pastor_n ac_fw-la ministri_fw-la qui_fw-la purè_fw-la &_o concionentur_fw-la &_o sacramenta_fw-la administrent_fw-la sint_fw-la etiam_fw-la seniores_fw-la &_o diaconi_fw-la qui_fw-la 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