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A66174 A discourse of the Holy Eucharist, in the two great points of the real presence and the adoration of the Host in answer to the two discourses lately printed at Oxford on this subject : to which is prefixed a large historical preface relating to the same argument. Wake, William, 1657-1737. 1687 (1687) Wing W240; ESTC R4490 116,895 178

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this_o matter_n our_o author_n dissimulation_n of_o it_o be_v so_o much_o the_o more_o inexcusable_a 20_o treatise_n one_a p._n 20_o by_o how_o much_o the_o more_o zealous_a a_o advocate_n he_o make_v he_o of_o his_o cause_n when_o all_o this_o that_o i_o have_v transcribe_v be_v in_o the_o very_a same_o section_n and_o almost_o in_o the_o same_o page_n with_o what_o he_o have_v cite_v for_o his_o little_a remark_n upon_o the_o title_n of_o the_o bishop_n book_n where_o he_o call_v it_o of_o the_o real_a presence_n and_o spiritual_a whence_o he_o will_v infer_v a_o difference_n between_o the_o two_o term_n and_o find_v something_o real_a that_o be_v not_o spiritual_a in_o this_o sacrament_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o design_n of_o that_o distinction_n be_v this_o there_o be_v several_a sort_n of_o real_a presence_n the_o papist_n the_o lutheran_n the_o church_n of_o england_n all_o
for_o their_o adoration_n whereby_o they_o become_v absolve_v by_o other_o protestant_n from_o idolatry_n in_o adore_v our_o lord_n as_o present_v there_o i_o see_v not_o why_o the_o ground_n of_o roman_a catholic_n shall_v be_v any_o whit_n less_o value_v than_o they_o in_o answer_n to_o which_o the_o reader_n may_v please_v to_o remember_v that_o i_o have_v before_o say_v that_o we_o do_v not_o excuse_v those_o lutheran_n who_o do_v this_o so_o much_o upon_o this_o principle_n that_o they_o have_v a_o more_o plausible_a ground_n or_o motive_n for_o their_o adoration_n but_o for_o this_o rather_o that_o confess_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n to_o remain_v they_o do_v not_o mistake_v their_o object_n but_o pay_v their_o adoration_n indeed_o to_o christ_n only_o suppose_v he_o to_o be_v there_o where_o in_o truth_n he_o be_v not_o but_o 2_o this_o author_n be_v very_o much_o mistake_v if_o he_o think_v the_o lutheran_n have_v no_o better_a a_o foundation_n for_o their_o real_a presence_n than_o the_o papist_n ibid._n see_v ibid._n indeed_o be_v the_o difference_n no_o great_a than_o between_o a_o con_n and_o a_o trans_fw-la it_o will_v i_o confess_v be_v hardly_o worth_a the_o while_n to_o contend_v about_o it_o but_o when_o we_o come_v to_o the_o point_n itself_o we_o may_v observe_v these_o four_o advantage_n among_o many_o other_o of_o the_o lutheran_n side_n 1._o they_o confess_v for_o the_o outward_a element_n that_o they_o be_v real_o what_o they_o appear_v to_o be_v bread_n and_o wine_n and_o so_o they_o do_v no_o violence_n to_o their_o sense_n which_o as_o i_o have_v say_v be_v a_o great_a aggravation_n against_o the_o papist_n 2._o by_o this_o mean_n they_o be_v at_o no_o defiance_n with_o all_o those_o text_n of_o scripture_n where_o they_o be_v so_o often_o call_v bread_n and_o wine_n after_o consecration_n all_o which_o the_o papist_n contradict_v but_o the_o lutheran_n do_v not_o 3._o from_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n this_o be_v my_o body_n we_o all_o of_o we_o confess_v may_v be_v infer_v that_o christ_n body_n be_v in_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n but_o whence_o do_v the_o papist_n infer_v the_o destruction_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n so_o that_o what_o be_v take_v and_o bless_v and_o give_v be_v not_o bread_n but_o christ_n body_n under_o the_o appearance_n of_o bread_n this_o be_v a_o error_n which_o i_o be_o sure_a the_o text_n give_v no_o manner_n of_o colour_n to_o and_o therefore_o our_o author_n can_v with_o any_o reason_n pretend_v as_o he_o do_v whether_o we_o consult_v the_o text_n of_o holy_a scripture_n or_o our_o own_o sense_n that_o they_o have_v as_o good_a ground_n for_o their_o real_a presence_n as_o the_o lutheran_n have_v for_o they_o to_o all_o which_o let_v i_o add_v 4thly_a that_o by_o transubstantiation_n they_o destroy_v the_o very_a nature_n of_o a_o sacrament_n by_o leave_v no_o true_a external_a sign_n or_o symbol_n and_o which_o be_v another_o unanswerable_a argument_n against_o they_o whilst_o the_o lutheran_n acknowledge_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n to_o remain_v do_v not_o destroy_v at_o all_o the_o nature_n of_o this_o sacrament_n but_o retain_v the_o same_o sign_n which_o our_o bless_a lord_n establish_v and_o so_o have_v no_o objection_n on_o this_o side_n neither_o to_o convict_v they_o but_o yet_o notwithstanding_o all_o this_o 27._o pag._n 26_o 27._o do_v not_o some_o of_o our_o writer_n confess_v that_o the_o papist_n interpretation_n be_v more_o rational_a than_o the_o lutheran_n i_o answer_v what_o certain_a protestant_n may_v have_v say_v in_o zeal_n for_o their_o own_o opinion_n and_o in_o particular_a hospinian_n upon_o the_o account_n of_o his_o master_n zuinglius_fw-la i_o can_v tell_v but_o sure_o i_o be_o we_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o answer_v for_o all_o that_o any_o protestant_a author_n have_v say_v and_o if_o these_o reason_n i_o have_v here_o give_v for_o the_o contrary_n be_v valid_a they_o ought_v to_o be_v more_o regard_v than_o the_o ungrounded_a assertion_n of_o a_o sacramentary_a historian_n well_o 27._o pag._n 27._o but_o still_o the_o papist_n do_v not_o ground_n his_o adoration_n upon_o transubstantiation_n but_o on_o corporal_a presence_n and_o so_o they_o must_v both_o be_v excuse_v or_o neither_o this_o be_v a_o fetch_v to_o very_o little_a purpose_n for_o let_v i_o ask_v this_o author_n he_o confess_v he_o find_v his_o adoration_n upon_o the_o corporal_a presence_n do_v he_o believe_v the_o corporal_a presence_n in_o the_o way_n of_o transubstantiation_n exclusive_a to_o all_o other_o or_o no_o if_o he_o do_v then_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o corporal_a presence_n and_o transubstantiation_n must_v with_o he_o stand_v or_o fall_v together_o and_o so_o if_o he_o adore_v on_o the_o account_n of_o the_o corporal_a presence_n he_o do_v it_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o transubstantiation_n if_o he_o do_v not_o believe_v this_o it_o be_v plain_a he_o be_v no_o papist_n nor_o submit_v to_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o have_v define_v the_o corporal_a presence_n to_o be_v after_o this_o particular_a manner_n exclusive_a to_o all_o other_o and_o anathematise_v all_o that_o dare_v to_o deny_v it_o lay_v aside_o therefore_o this_o comparison_n and_o which_o in_o truth_n will_v do_v they_o but_o very_o little_a kindness_n xxiv_o pag._n 27._o 27._o xxiv_o let_v we_o view_v more_o particular_o what_o rational_a ground_n they_o have_v to_o exhibit_v for_o this_o their_o belief_n of_o their_o corporal_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o of_o the_o adoration_n of_o he_o upon_o that_o account_n i._o ibid._n ibid._n ground_n and_o the_o first_o be_v divine_a revelation_n for_o which_o our_o author_n offer_v the_o two_o usual_a instance_n of_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n and_o the_o 6_o chapter_n of_o s._n john_n both_o which_o therefore_o i_o have_v at_o large_a discourse_v on_o above_o and_o i_o believe_v sufficient_o show_v how_o false_a a_o foundation_n these_o be_v of_o this_o belief_n but_o yet_o since_o our_o author_n remind_v we_o 28._o we_o pag._n 27_o 28._o that_o against_o these_o no_o argument_n take_v from_o our_o sense_n or_o reason_n be_v valid_a i_o will_v beg_v leave_n to_o remind_v he_o of_o his_o own_o assertion_n too_o 14._o too_o see_v treatise_n 1._o p._n 14._o that_o none_o can_v believe_v a_o thing_n true_a upon_o what_o motive_n soever_o that_o he_o know_v certain_o to_o be_v false_a or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o certain_o to_o contradict_v so_o that_o if_o our_o reason_n then_o make_v we_o certain_a of_o such_o a_o contradiction_n 1._o p._n 21._o treat_n 1._o we_o may_v be_v certain_a that_o there_o neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v a_o contrary_a revelation_n and_o when_o any_o revelation_n though_o never_o so_o plain_a be_v bring_v we_o be_v bind_v to_o interpret_v it_o so_o as_o not_o to_o affirm_v a_o certain_o know_v impossibility_n from_o which_o principle_n it_o seem_v to_o i_o to_o follow_v that_o be_v hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la as_o evident_a a_o proof_n of_o transubstantiation_n as_o their_o own_o author_n confess_v it_o be_v not_o yet_o if_o our_o sense_n and_o reason_n tell_v we_o that_o there_o be_v certain_a contradiction_n against_o the_o common_a principle_n of_o nature_n and_o the_o universal_a sentiment_n of_o all_o mankind_n no_o otherwise_o to_o be_v avoid_v but_o by_o take_v those_o word_n in_o the_o sense_n in_o which_o we_o do_v we_o be_v then_o bond_n to_o interpret_v they_o so_o as_o to_o avoid_v these_o impossibility_n and_o this_o i_o be_o confident_a i_o have_v at_o large_a show_v above_o to_o be_v the_o case_n and_o thither_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n ii_o ground_n twenty-five_o p._n 28._o 28._o twenty-five_o their_o second_o ground_n be_v found_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o those_o council_n that_o have_v determine_v this_o matter_n the_o declaration_n as_o he_o call_v it_o of_o the_o most_o supreme_a and_o universal_a church-authority_n that_o have_v be_v assemble_v in_o former_a time_n for_o the_o decision_n of_o this_o controversy_n long_o before_o the_o birth_n of_o protestantism_n these_o be_v great_a word_n indeed_o but_o i_o wonder_v who_o ever_o hear_v before_o that_o a_o few_o miserable_a 1078._o miserable_a these_o be_v his_o synod_n at_o rome_n vercelles_n tours_n rome_n again_o an._n 1059._o and_o again_o an._n 1078._o synod_n of_o particular_a prelate_n such_o as_o be_v all_o those_o to_o which_o he_o refer_v we_o assemble_v against_o berengarius_fw-la be_v the_o most_o supreme_a and_o universal_a church-authority_n for_o his_o little_a reflection_n that_o they_o be_v assemble_v long_o before_o the_o birth_n of_o protestantism_n i_o must_v tell_v he_o i_o doubt_v he_o be_v mistake_v the_o religion_n of_o protestant_n like_o that_o of_o papist_n be_v composs_v of_o two_o great_a part_n catholic_n christianity_n common_a in_o some_o