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A20031 A true, modest, and iust defence of the petition for reformation, exhibited to the Kings most excellent Maiestie Containing an answere to the confutation published under the names of some of the Vniuersitie of Oxford. Together vvith a full declaration out of the Scriptures, and practise of the primitiue Church, of the severall points of the said petition. Sprint, John, d. 1623. Anatomy of the controversed ceremonies of the church of England. 1618 (1618) STC 6469; ESTC S119326 135,310 312

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ergo_fw-la see_v a_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v the_o same_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n jurisdiction_n do_v of_o right_a belong_v to_o both_o arg._n 7._o all_o pastoral_a duty_n do_v equal_o belong_v unto_o the_o pastor_n but_o to_o separate_v the_o precious_a from_o the_o vile_a be_v a_o pastoral_a duty_n jer._n 15._o 19_o as_o it_o belong_v to_o the_o shepherd_n to_o seek_v that_o which_o be_v lose_v ezek_n 34._o 4._o that_o be_v to_o reconcile_v the_o penitent_a so_o also_o to_o separate_v the_o unclean_a to_o correct_v the_o obstinate_a augustine_n say_v 15._o de_fw-fr corrept_n &_o great_a cap._n 15._o pastoralis_fw-la necessitas_fw-la habet_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o pastoral_a necessity_n require_v lest_o the_o contagion_n shall_v spread_v further_o to_o separate_v the_o disease_a sheep_n from_o the_o sound_n ergo_fw-la it_o belong_v to_o presbyter_n which_o be_v pastor_n and_o have_v their_o flock_n act._n 20._o 17._o 28._o to_o separate_v one_fw-mi excommunicate_v the_o vile_a and_o unclean_a arg._n 8._o whatsoever_o belong_v to_o the_o gather_v together_o of_o the_o saint_n the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n the_o edify_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v to_o be_v perform_v by_o the_o pastor_n and_o doctor_n with_o other_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n for_o to_o this_o end_n have_v christ_n ordain_v these_o office_n ephes_n 4._o 11._o but_o to_o separate_v or_o excommunicate_a and_o reconcile_v be_v profitable_a to_o the_o say_a purpose_n this_o authority_n be_v give_v for_o edification_n 2._o cor._n 10._o 8._o ergo_fw-la it_o belong_v to_o the_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n of_o the_o church_n arg._n 9_o the_o discipline_n shall_v be_v administer_v by_o such_o as_o be_v more_o likely_a to_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o direction_n and_o to_o who_o with_o the_o least_o peril_n of_o the_o church_n the_o censure_n may_v be_v exercise_v but_o a_o assembly_n of_o presbyter_n be_v more_o like_a to_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o direction_n as_o the_o apostle_n and_o presbyter_n assemble_v in_o council_n say_v it_o seem_v good_a to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o coelestium_fw-la council_n african_a can_v 138._o epist_n ad_fw-la coelestium_fw-la to_o we_o act._n 15._o 28._o thus_o say_v the_o council_n of_o african_a unless_o there_o be_v any_o that_o think_v god_n inspire_v one_o particular_a person_n with_o righteousness_n and_o forsake_v a_o number_n of_o priest_n assemble_v in_o synod_n again_o there_o will_v arise_v less_o danger_n to_o the_o church_n by_o this_o mean_n for_o there_o be_v a_o rule_n in_o the_o law_n excommunicatus_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la excommunicare_fw-la he_o that_o be_v excommunicate_v himself_o can_v excommunicate_v another_o cause_n 24._o q._n 1._o c._n 4._o but_o a_o bishop_n or_o any_o one_o ecclesiastical_a person_n may_v by_o many_o occasion_n stand_v under_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n church_n in_o what_o case_n bishop_n be_v liable_a to_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n as_o if_o he_o have_v two_o wife_n cause_n 24._o q._n 3._o c._n 19_o or_o if_o he_o be_v a_o teacher_n of_o error_n he_o must_v be_v deliver_v to_o satan_n cause_n 24._o q._n 3._o c_o 13._o pelagius_n or_o if_o he_o be_v a_o usurer_n cause_n 14._o q._n 4._o c._n 4._o or_o a_o blasphemer_n or_o swearer_n carth._n 4._o cap._n 61._o or_o a_o player_n at_o dice._n trullan_n c._n 50._o or_o be_v negligent_a in_o preach_v and_o so_o continue_v can_v apost_n 57_o or_o give_v order_n for_o money_n chalced._n c._n 2_o or_o be_v promote_v for_o money_n constant_n conc._n 6._o gener_fw-la c._n 22._o or_o make_v a_o lie_v man_n his_o vicar_n general_a hispatiens_n 2._o c._n 9_o or_o take_v upon_o he_o any_o civil_a office_n as_o vice-presidentship_a justiciariship_n decr._n greg._n 3._o 58._o 4._o or_o sit_v in_o cause_n of_o blood_n or_o give_v sentence_n for_o the_o cut_n off_o of_o any_o meber_v as_o of_o ear_n hand_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n c_o 5._o so_o write_v alexander_n 3_o in_o his_o rescript_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o canterbury_n but_o a_o bishop_n or_o any_o one_o man_n may_v stand_v excommunicate_a where_o a_o assembly_n or_o company_n can_v in_o this_o case_n by_o who_o shall_v the_o discipline_n be_v administer_v ergo_fw-la it_o be_v safe_a that_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v dispose_v by_o many_o then_o by_o one_o arg._n 10._o presbyter_n by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o church_n be_v interest_v in_o the_o spiritual_a rule_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o excommunication_n belong_v to_o the_o spiritual_a regiment_n ergo_fw-la for_o the_o proof_n of_o the_o proposition_n first_o in_o the_o scripture_n we_o find_v that_o the_o apostle_n call_v together_o the_o presbyter_n for_o the_o decide_n of_o doubtful_a question_n and_o by_o the_o apostle_n the_o elder_n that_o labour_v in_o the_o word_n be_v make_v ruler_n the_o elder_n that_o rule_v well_o especial_o they_o that_o labour_v in_o the_o word_n 1._o tim._n 5._o 17._o they_o then_o that_o labour_v in_o the_o word_n be_v also_o roll_a elder_n for_o how_o else_o shall_v they_o have_v a_o double_a honour_n be_v exclude_v from_o government_n which_o be_v count_v one_o of_o the_o great_a honour_n of_o the_o church_n now_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n be_v most_o evident_a hier._n say_v communi_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la concilio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la regebantur_fw-la 1._o ●●●rom_fw-la in●_n ●_z 1._o in_o the_o begin_n church_n be_v govern_v by_o the_o common_a advice_n of_o presbyter_n cause_n 11._o q._n 3_o c._n 106._o debent_fw-la 12._o sacerdotes_fw-la episcopum_fw-la circumstare_fw-la etc._n etc._n twelve_o priest_n must_v stand_v by_o the_o bisbop_n when_o he_o denounce_v excommunication_n can_n 108._o when_o the_o penitent_a party_n be_v to_o be_v reconcile_v the_o bishop_n must_v be_v assist_v with_o as_o many_o cause_n 12._o q._n 2._o c._n 5._o the_o bishop_n can_v not_o dispose_v of_o the_o temporal_a thing_n of_o the_o church_n much_o less_o of_o spiritual_a inconsulto_fw-la presbyterio_fw-la not_o have_v before_o consult_v with_o his_o presbytery_n neither_o be_v the_o assistance_n of_o the_o presbytery_n for_o decency_n and_o order_n only_o but_o of_o necessity_n episcopus_fw-la nullius_fw-la causam_fw-la audiat_fw-la absque_fw-la praesentia_fw-la clericorum_fw-la aliter_fw-la erit_fw-la sententia_fw-la irrita_fw-la the_o bishop_n shall_v hear_v no_o man_n cause_n without_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o clark_n otherwise_o let_v the_o sentence_n be_v void_a carth._n 4._o c._n 23._o thus_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o at_o the_o beginning_n the_o presbyter_n do_v assist_v the_o bishop_n in_o the_o regiment_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n as_o be_v confess_v also_o by_o our_o learned_a writer_n the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n at_o the_o first_o be_v so_o apportion_v that_o neither_o the_o presbyter_n shall_v do_v any_o thing_n without_o the_o bishop_n 307._o perpetual_a gover_n p._n 307._o nor_o the_o bishop_n dispose_v matter_n of_o importance_n without_o his_o presbytery_n d._n fulke_o thus_o testify_v it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o authority_n of_o bind_v 4._o ans_fw-fr to_o rhem_n in_o 2_o cor._n 2._o sect_n 4._o and_o lose_v commit_v and_o retain_v pertain_v general_o to_o all_o the_o apostle_n alike_o and_o to_o every_o pastor_n in_o his_o cure_n thus_o be_v it_o in_o the_o beginning_n but_o by_o little_a and_o little_a in_o process_n of_o time_n bishop_n begin_v to_o encroach_v upon_o presbyter_n and_o their_o office_n 1._o bishop_n have_v at_o the_o first_o but_o a_o priority_n before_o their_o presbyter_n they_o be_v not_o presbyter_n how_o bishop_n by_o little_a and_o little_o encroach_v upon_o presbyter_n to_o suffer_v a_o presbyter_n to_o stand_v before_o they_o carth._n 4._o 34._o and_o within_o door_n collegam_fw-la se_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la esse_fw-la cognoscat_fw-la let_v the_o bishop_n take_v himself_o to_o be_v the_o presbyter_n colleague_n and_o fellow_n but_o now_o bishop_n be_v calll_v prelate_n minister_n subditi_fw-la their_o subject_n 2._o as_o yet_o the_o bishop_n have_v no_o special_a kind_n of_o ordain_v as_o differ_v in_o order_n from_o presbyter_n as_o ambrose_n say_v episcopi_fw-la &_o presbyteri_fw-la una_fw-la ordinatio_fw-la there_o be_v but_o one_o ordination_n of_o a_o presbyter_n and_o a_o bishop_n uterque_fw-la enim_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la for_o they_o be_v both_o but_o priest_n or_o minister_n in_o 1._o tim._n 3._o afterward_o the_o bishop_n bring_v in_o a_o special_a kind_n of_o consecration_n for_o themselves_o 3._o then_o they_o go_v further_a that_o whereas_o in_o give_v of_o order_n presbyter_n be_v join_v with_o bishop_n carth._n 4._o c._n 3._o cite_v before_o they_o do_v assume_v that_o office_n to_o 10._o hier._n evag._n 10._o themselves_o quid_fw-la facit_fw-la excepta_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la episcopus_fw-la etc._n etc._n what_o do_v a_o bishop_n that_o a_o priest_n can_v do_v ordination_n only_o except_v 4._o but_o not_o content_v to_o stay_v here_o
not_o that_o be_v good_a so_o neither_o in_o our_o friend_n commend_v we_o that_o which_o be_v evil_a as_o he_o well_o say_v nec_fw-la bonis_fw-la adversariorum_fw-la si_fw-la quid_fw-la honestum_fw-la ocean_n hierom_n pammach_n &_o ocean_n habuerint_fw-la detrahendum_fw-la est_fw-la nec_fw-la amicorum_fw-la laudanda_fw-la sunt_fw-la vitia_fw-la 4._o object_n those_o man_n may_v have_v better_o perform_v their_o obedience_n to_o god_n &c_n &c_n what_o be_v these_o man_n they_o shall_v assume_v so_o much_o answ_n 1._o we_o have_v assume_v nothing_o disloyal_a just_a complaint_n not_o disloyal_a which_o become_v not_o good_a subject_n to_o lay_v open_a our_o complaint_n to_o our_o gracious_a sovereign_n as_o the_o member_n send_v up_o their_o grief_n to_o the_o head_n 2._o neither_o do_v we_o seek_v to_o abuse_v the_o clergy_n but_o to_o honour_v they_o when_o we_o desire_v they_o may_v in_o every_o congregation_n shine_v as_o lamp_n both_o in_o life_n and_o doctrine_n 3._o what_o great_a obedience_n to_o god_n then_o to_o be_v find_v faithful_a what_o better_a service_n to_o his_o majesty_n then_o to_o acquaint_v he_o with_o the_o want_n of_o that_o body_n whereof_o he_o be_v the_o head_n what_o true_a love_n to_o the_o church_n then_o to_o desire_v her_o perfection_n 4._o we_o trust_v his_o majesty_n count_v it_o no_o trouble_n to_o hear_v his_o honest_a subject_n complaint_n as_o by_o his_o own_o princely_a word_n we_o be_v encourage_v weary_a not_o to_o hear_v the_o complaint_n of_o the_o oppress_v 92._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 92._o aut_fw-la ne_fw-la rex_fw-la sis_fw-la preacher_n and_o minister_n that_o humble_o sue_v for_o redress_v trouble_v not_o the_o church_n but_o idle_a non_fw-fr resident_n dumb_a minister_n covetous_a pluralist_n be_v the_o man_n which_o be_v settle_v in_o their_o dregs_n and_o will_v not_o have_v their_o sour_a lees_n draw_v forth_o as_o for_o we_o we_o bless_v god_n for_o our_o external_a peace_n and_o hearty_o desire_v the_o true_a internal_a peace_n that_o we_o may_v be_v all_o according_a to_o the_o apostle_n rule_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 15._o eph._n 4._o 15._o follow_v the_o truth_n in_o love_n and_o love_v in_o the_o truth_n and_o so_o we_o say_v with_o hierome_n theoph_n ad_fw-la theoph_n unto_o our_o brethren_n that_o seem_v to_o stand_v so_o much_o upon_o peace_n and_o quietness_n nihil_fw-la grande_fw-fr est_fw-la voce_fw-la pacem_fw-la praetendere_fw-la &_o opere_fw-la destruere_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v nothing_o to_o pretend_v peace_n in_o word_n and_o destroy_v it_o indeed_o we_o also_o will_v peace_n and_o we_o wish_v not_o only_o but_o entreat_v peace_n the_o peace_n of_o christ_n true_a peace_n pacem_fw-la quae_fw-la not_z ut_fw-la adversarios_fw-la subijciat_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la amicos_fw-la iungat_fw-la such_o peace_n which_o may_v not_o subdue_v we_o as_o enemy_n but_o join_v we_o as_o friend_n 5._o object_n they_o must_v prove_v that_o those_o humour_n untruth_n 7._o these_o be_v the_o peccant_a humour_n be_v the_o peccant_a humour_n of_o the_o church_n which_o in_o truth_n be_v the_o least_o peccant_a of_o any_o other_o etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr 1._o if_o these_o &_o such_o like_a be_v not_o the_o catharst_n who_o come_v near_o the_o catharst_n peccant_a humour_n in_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n there_o be_v none_o at_o all_o thus_o these_o man_n seem_v to_o come_v near_o to_o the_o puritan_n &_o catharist_n than_o those_o who_o they_o in_o their_o answer_n have_v traduce_v that_o acknowledge_v all_o thing_n pure_a in_o the_o church_n and_o no_o thing_n amiss_o how_o far_o be_v they_o from_o redress_v that_o be_v so_o far_o of_o from_o confess_v their_o want_n ambrose_n well_o say_v sensus_fw-la vulneris_fw-la est_fw-la sensus_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la the_o sense_n of_o grief_n be_v the_o sense_n of_o life_n 2._o we_o wish_v even_o in_o our_o heart_n it_o be_v as_o they_o say_v that_o our_o church_n be_v least_o peccant_a in_o the_o world_n then_o shall_v we_o have_v no_o contention_n about_o humane_a rite_n non-residents_a dumb_a minister_n commendam_n faculty_n abuse_v of_o excommunication_n and_o such_o like_a which_o be_v strange_a in_o other_o reform_a church_n 3._o reverend_a bishop_n jewel_n where_o he_o say_v we_o be_v come_v as_o near_o as_o possible_o we_o can_v to_o the_o church_n of_o the_o apostle_n neither_o mean_v apostle_n how_o we_o be_v come_v near_o the_o apostle_n the_o abuse_n and_o peccant_a humour_n of_o our_o church_n which_o he_o will_v never_o have_v justify_v nor_o yet_o all_o the_o ceremony_n for_o else_o be_v he_o allege_v out_o of_o valafridius_n abbas_n that_o in_o the_o begin_n the_o communion_n be_v minister_v without_o any_o difference_n of_o apparel_n and_o show_v that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o hieroms_n time_n defence_n apol._n 401._o neither_o yet_o do_v he_o mean_v that_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v exact_o restore_v for_o the_o book_n itself_o confess_v that_o 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