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A52681 An answer to Monsieur De Rodon's Funeral of the mass by N.N. N. N., 17th cent.; Derodon, David, ca. 1600-1664. Tombeau de la messe. English. 1681 (1681) Wing N27; ESTC R28135 95,187 159

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them to be accepted it being as much as to offer God polluted Bread upon his Altar which was rejected Malach. 1. v. 7. PROOF III. What the prophet Malachy fore-told our Saviour insinuated after Io. 4. v. 19. to the Samaritan Woman She finding that he was a prophet proposed to him the Schisme which was then between the Samaritans and the Jews about the place of Sacrifice The Samaritans held they ought to Sacrifice upon mount Garazim the Jews that they ought all to Sacrifice in the Temple of Jerusalem Our Lord gave her a twofold answer the first as to the place of Sacrifice the second as to the manner of it The hour or time is come that is will be immediatly after my death says he when ye shall neither adore that is Sacrifice on this mountain nor in Jerusalem to wit only As if he had said hereafter the true adorers viz. Christians shall not only offer Sacrifice on this montain or in the temple of Jerusalem but they shall build Churches in everie place to Sacrifice in as Malachy foretold Note by the word Adore is here meant Sacrifice for the Jews did not deny but that they might adore simply and pray God every where but they held it was not lawful to Sacrifice but in the Temple of Jerusalem therefore they came farr and neer to Jerusalem as the Eunuch to adore that is to Sacrifice Act. 8. v. 27. And some Gentils Io. 12. v. 20. had gone up viz. to Jerusalem to adore that is to Sacrifice on a festivall day because there only was the place of Sacrifice As to the manner the true adorers shall adore that is Sacrifice in spirit and truth In truth contrary to the samaritans who sacrificed to a false God and in Spirit otherwise then those Jews of whom God complained that they honoured him with their mouthes but that their harts were farr from him The true adorers then shall accompany their outward offering to the true God with an inward devotion of mind PROOF IV. The sacrifice of the Eucharist fore-told by Malachy and insinuated by Christ to the Samaritan woman S. Paul declares by a particular circumstance of the Christian's partaking of it to the exclusion of the Jews who serving the tabernacle were debarred from sharing in the Host which came of the altar of the Christians Wee viz. Christians have an altar says he Hebr. 13. of which they have no right to eate who serve the Tabernacle Note Altar or as the Greek text hath thusiasteerion that is That place on which the sacrifice is made or put from the verb histeemi I put and thusia an Host from the verb thuoo I Sacrifice and a sacrifice are relatives one of which cannot be conceived without the other Quid est altare says Opt. mil. lib. 6. nisi sedes sanguinis corporis Christi That is What is an Altar but the seat of the Blood and Body of Christ If then the Christians in S. Pauls time had an Altar they had also a true sacrifice no other but that of the Eucharist then the sacrifice of the Eucharist is a true sacrifice PROOF V. Infin What Malachy foretold our Saviour insinuated to the Samaritan woman and S. Paul declares 1. Cor. 10. S. Luke stronly confirms relating to us Acts. 13. v. 2. the practise of this sacrifice in the Apostles leitourguntoon de auton they as Erasmus himselfe explanes sacrificing to the Lord and fasting which Fasting is premitted by apostolical tradition to the ordination of Preists See S. Chrysost on this place 'T is also to be remark'd that S. Luke describing the sacrifice of Zacharie Luc. 1. v. 23. makes use of the word leitourgias to signifie his sacrifice or ministry And again the same S. Luke hath This Cup the New Testament in my Blood which Cup IS powred out for you Note 1. he sayes The Cup is poured out that was not done at the Cross for the Vessel out of which the Blood of Christ was poured there was his Body here the CUP 2. The present time IS poured out declares the pouring out at the last Supper not on the Cross 3. FOR YOU and not TO YOU signifies an Oblation or Sacrifice 4. The pouring out was a Libation or Sacrifice SUBSECTION V. The Sacrifice of the Mass proved by the Authority of the Holy Fathers AFter I have proved by Reason the Notion of a True Sacrifice the Tradition of our Country and Scripture the Sacrifice of the Mass I ask Is not that to be believed which was believed by Christians in primitive times or the first five Centuries I ask again Who can tell us best what they believed Men who are living now with us or tho●● who lived in the same times renowned both for Piety and Learning If you grant those ancients can best tell us what they and the People of their time believed consult their works left to posterity and you 'l find In the first age 1. ST Paul We have an Altar of which they have no right to eat who serve the Tabernacle Hebr. 13. v. 10. And 1 Cor. 9. v. 13. They that serve the Altar participat with the Altar Note the English Bible 1562. hath here for Altar Temple though Norton's of 1625. hath Altar 2. St. Andrew who said to the Tyrant Aegaeas I daily Sacrifice to the Almighty GOD the Immaculate Lamb who persevers living and entire altho he be truly Sacrificed and his Flesh truly eaten by the People This is related in the Book of his Passion written by his Disciples who little dreamed then that Protestants in these dayes should question this truth 3. St. Denis speaking of the Eucharist Eccl. Hier. cap. 3. sayes O Divine and Holy Sacrifice And again in the same Chapter Hence the Divine Preist standing at the Divine Altar I know Calvin denies that Book to be St. Denis his but I preser the Authority of St. Iohn Damas Lib. 1. de Fide orth cap. 12. Of the second general Council of Nice approved anno 787. under Hadrian the first Citing in Can. 2. a Testimony out of the Eccl. Hier. under the name of St. Denis whom the Council calles Magnum Great and of others to his vide Gual 1. Saec. pag. 40. 4 St. Ignatius Martyr I do not delight in the nourishment of Corruption nor the pleasures of this Life I will the Bread of God the Heavenly Bread which is the Flesh of Christ the Son of God Epist ad Rom. beyond the middle This passage is not for the sacrifice but proves strongly that the s●●rament is the true Body of Christ In the second age 1. ST Iustin Martyr in his Dial. with Tryph. post medium Neither doth God receive Hosts from any but from his Preists All then who in his Name offer the Sacrifices which Jesus left or signified to be made that is in the Eucharist of Bread and Wine which are made in every place of the Earth by Christians c. 2. S. Irenaeus lib. 4. cap. 32. speaking of
the Spirit of God as St. Paul Nay after he had received the Spirit of God he was feared to loose it again saying I chastise my Body and bring it under servitude lest after I have Preached to others I become a reprobate my self 1 Cor. 9. v. 27. How know you then that at this time you are guided by the Spirit of God especially if it be true that a man knows not whether he be worthy of Love or hatred Eccl. 9.1 S. Iohn if you would hear him would tell you a better way to try your Spirit to wit by the Church's approbation of it Io. 4. v. 6. We viz. Governours of the Church are of God he that knows God heares us viz. Governours of the Church he that is not of God heares us not in this we know the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Errour To wit those who are led by the Spirit of Truth submit themselves to the Church whereas those who let themselves be guided by the Spirit of Errour will not this submission but rest in their own Judgment and by this wedding themselves to their own Judgment they become Hereticks being condemned of themselves as S. Paul speaks Tit. 3. v. 11. Other great Sinners are cast out of the Church by the Governours of the same but the Heretick he retires or withdraws himself by his singular and self Judgment contrary to the Judgment and Sentiment of the Catholick Church If you ask me what gives a man so much security in addressing himself to the Church as we are advised by S. Iohn c. 4. v. 6 Answer 'T is that she shews her self by her marks to be the Oracle of God to Men and as it were his mouth by which he speaks sensibly to Men. 1 Thes 2.12 Her marks are these 1. Her perpetual visibility Math. 5. v. 14. 2. Her antiquity Ierem. 6. v. 16. 3. Her easie way to Heaven for the Ignorant as well as the Learned by following only Her Direction Isa 35.8 4. Her having converted all Nations which now acknowledge Christ from Paganism to the Christian Religion Isa c. 2. v. 2. and chap. 60. v. 1. 5. 11. 5. Her working of Miracles Mark 16. v. 17. Note 't is not necessary that every one to believe see Her Miracles 't is enough they be very credibly related to them Blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed Io. 20. v. 29. and Mark 16. v. 14. Our Saviour blamed his Disciples for their not believing the relation of Mary Magdalen and others of his Resurrection 6. Her unity and having an efficacious means to conserve unity among Her Children by their submission to Her in matter of Faith and by Her Authority given Her by God to condemn all Hereticks Isa 54. v. 17. 7. Her being Holy in Her Doctrine which breads People up to Saintity 1 Petr. 2. v. 9. And who by their lives shew the force of the Grace of the Passion of Christ as is seen in many of our Religious Persons Ephes 5. v. 25. and 26. 8. Her being Catholick or universal spreading through all times and sending of Her Children to all places to Convert Souls Math. 28. v. 19. Note the Roman Church would not justly be called Catholick if she had not had in all ages from Christ to this present time a Body of Men believing all the same Articles of Faith which she believes now For if they had only believed some of Her Articles they had not been the same Church with Her And by this mark all other Congregations pretending to the name of Catholick are excluded from it 9. Her having a Succession of infallible Pastors lawfully descending from S. Peter to this present Pope Innocent the 11. Ephes 4. v. 11.12.13 10. Her having a true and proper Sacrifice foretold Malach. 1. v. 11. All which marks taken together you will find in no Church but the Roman and therefore she is the Church God will have us hear Math. 18. v. 17. For brevities sake I send you to other Controvertists for a larger explication of those marks I am of opinion that this sole Argument which proves that the Protestants cannot be infallibly sure that the Protestant Religion is the true Religion not to speak of what I have said beside to the same purpose in this 6. Subsection being well weighed in all its parts and set together in the consideration of a serious well meaning Man free from Passion and Interest may make in his understanding to use Mr. Rodon's expression the Funeral of the whole Protestant Religion SECTION II. The Solution of Objections Mr. Rodon's Objections against the Sacrifice of the Mass answered TO his first Argument saying that Christ in the institution of the Eucharist did not Sacrifice nor offer his Body and Blood to his Father and that in the three Evangelists and St. Paul there is not the least Foot-step to be seen of a Sacrifice or Oblation of Christ's Body and Blood Answer Christ was a Preist and in acknoledgment of his Father's Supream Dominion over Life and Death he put his Body under one Form viz. of Bread and his Blood under an other separate Form viz. of Wine upon the Altar having by Consecration destroyed the Substance of Bread and Wine and so offered them to his Father for them and others or the Remission of Sins if we may believe him saying to his Disciples Luke 22. This is my Body which is given Greek didomenon for you Which is broken kloomenon for you viz. quoad speciem Sacramenti This is my Blood which IS poured out Ekkunomenon for you Neither for you only but for many was not this an unbloody Sacrifice Is not there a Foot-step of a Sacrrifice Hebr. 13. where St. Paul speaks of an Altar which is a correlative of a Sacrifice He Objects that Bellar lib. 1. of the Masse chap. 27 confesses that the Oblation which is made after Consecration belongs to the entireness of the Sacrament Bellar. hath Sacrifice but is not of its essence Answer And so do I too but telling you withall that the oblation which is made in the Consecration is of the essence of the Sacrifice Deo offertur viz. Christus sayes Bellar. That sacred thing viz. the Holy Host is offered to God when it is put on the Altar of God and this one suffices for that part of the essence lib. 1. de Missa c. 27. towards the end For Salmeron and Baronius his putting the Sacrifice of the Eucharist among unwritten traditions Answer They do not deny it to be written also Some things the Apostles have delivered to us by writ word and practise as the Sacrifice of the Mass and the Baptism adultorum of adults that is of those who are come to a full age others only by word and practise as the Baptism of Infants The belief of three persons in the H. Trinity is it only an unwritten tradition If so and you believe it why may not you as well believe the unwritten tradition