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A42315 The old Roman Catholik, as at first he was taught by Paul, in opposition to the new Roman Catholick, as of latter he is taught by the Pope the one being apostolicall, the other apostaticall : derived and proven only out of the Epistle of Paul to the Romanes : whereunto is added a clear probation that the same also was the doctrine of the primitive bishops of Rome ... discovering to all clearly the apostasie of that church from the ancient Roman fayth and puritie thereof to the noveltie of gross heresie and idolatrie, and sufficient to convince, if not convert, any papist that is not wilfully obdured / by W. Guild. Guild, William, 1586-1657. 1649 (1649) Wing G2210; ESTC R30326 38,314 116

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sinne of vnbelieff Whom els where * the Scriptures are sayd to haue concluded vnder sinne Whence it followeth That the Authoritie of GOD and of the Scriptures is all one Therefore if GODS Authoritie bee aboue the Church then the Scriptures Authoritie must bee so lykewyse and not the contrary And who believeth not GOD speaking in the Scriptures otherwyse then for the Authoritie of another That is the Churches hee believeth the Church more than GOD and so believeth not GOD simplie for himself but as is sayd 1. Iohn 5. 10. maketh GOD a liar Therefore sayeth Augustine being sure and secure of the Trueth of holy Scripture I will reade the same as being placed in the very highest and most heavenly top or pinnacle of Authoritie 4. That the Scripture is perfect in it self without vnwritten traditions ROM. 15. 4. Whatsoever thinges were written aforetyme were written for our instruction that we through Patience and Comfort of the Scriptures may haue hope Whence it followeth That if the Scripture serveth as sayeth the Text both for instructing in thinges intellectuall and begetting in vs all saving graces as things morall and which are able to vphold vs in deepest distresses as is Patience Comfort and Hope That therefore the same is perfect contayning all doctrines in it needfull to Salvation Whence it is sayeth Augustine in these places which are clearly set down in Scripture All these things are found which contayn both Fayth and Manners CHAP. II. Of the CHURCH SECTION 1. That the holy Cotholick Church spoken of in the Creed is only of them who are predestinated to eternall glory ROM. 8. 30. Moreover whom Hee did predestinate them also He called and whom He called them also Hee justified and whom Hee justified them also He glorified Whence wee reason thus The holy Catholik Church of CHRIST is that which at last is to bee glorified But none are to bee glorified but the predestinate c. Therefore the predestinate only are the holy Catholik Church of CHRIST Whence it is That Pope Gregorie the first sayeth well The Church is rightlie called a Garden inclosed sayeth hee because on all sydes it is fenced with the hedge of Charitie lest any reprobate should enter in amongst the number of the Elect. And yet for this poynt was Iohn Huss condemned burnt at the Councell of Constance because he defyned the True Church of CHRIST to bee the company of these who are predestinate elect vnto Eternall Lyf 2. That the Church of true Professours is not alwayes to all conspicuous ROM. 11. 2. 3. 4. Wot ye not what the Scripture sayeth of Eliab how hee maketh intercession to GOD against Israell saying LORD they haue killed thy Prophets and digged down thyne Altars and I am left aelone and they seek my lyf But what sayeth the answer of GOD vnto him I haue reserved to MySelff seven thousand who haue not bowed the knee to Baall Where wee see that the true Church in Israel that consisted of such a number of true worshippers was not visibly conspicuous even to the true Prophet of GOD let be to her persecuting enemyes Ahab and Iesabell Whence it is That Augustin sayeth Sometymes the Church lyke the Moon may be hid and obscured that her own very members may not know one another 3. That true doctrine is the essentiall note of the true Church ROM. 16. 17. Now I beseech you brethren mark them who cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which yee haue learned and avoyd them For they that are such serue not the LORD IESUS Whence it followeth If they should bee avoyded as no true servants of CHRIST IESUS or members of His Church who teah or practise Contrary to true doctrine That on the contrary these therefore who teach and practise conform to true doctrine contayned in the Scriptures are the true servants of CHRIST IESUS and members of His Church and consequentlie that true doctrine and practise in GODS worship conform is the essentiall note to know CHRISTS Church thereby Therefore there is the true Church sayeth Ierom where true fayth is and they are good catholicks only sayeth Augustin who follow the right fayth 4. That vnity is no note of the true Church except in the trueth and profession thereof ROM. 15. 5. 6. Now the GOD of patience and consolation grant you to be alyke mynded one towards another according to CHRIST IESUS that yee may with one mynd and one mouth glorifie GOD Whence it followeth That the vnitie which the Apostle prayeth that it may be in this Church of Rome and whereby they may bee knowne to bee the true Church of CHRIST is the Unitie of trueth according to CHRIST IESUS being of one mynd in believing and of one mouth in professing the same to the glory of GOD 5. That Multitude is no Note of the True Church ROM. 11. 3. 5. LORD they haue killed thy Prophets and digged downe thyne Altars and I am left alone and they seek my lyf c. And even so at this present tyme also there is but a remnant according to the election of grace sayeth the Apostle Whence it followeth If at this tyme whereof the Prophet speaketh in this Church of the Iewes there was such a paucitie of true worshippers that Elias thought that hee only was left alone the multitude having made defection to idolatrie And that at this tyme also whereof the Apostle speaketh in the Christian Church was but a remnant only according to the election of grace in comparison of others Therefore it followeth clearly that multitude is no evident note of the true Church Wherefore sayeth Ierom the multitude of associates shall no wyse show thee to bee a Catholik but rather an Heretick 6. That the Church of Rome is not infallible but may erre ROM. 11. 20. Because of vnbelieff they were broken off to wit the Iewish Church and thou standest by fayth be not highmynded but fear Whence wee see 1. That any such highmyndedness is forbidden to the Church of Rome as to say that shee cannot erre and 2. Altho for the present she stood by fayth yet shee is exhorted to fear lest shee fall from the Fayth Which exhortation were altogether needless if shee could not erre or fall from the Fayth And agayn sayeth the Apostle Rom. 11. 21. 22. For if GOD spared not the naturall branches take heed lest hee spare not thee Behold therefore the goodness and severitie of GOD on them which fell severitie but towards thee goodness if thou continue in his goodness otherwyse thou shalt also be cut off Whereby the Apostle showeth That the Church of Rome may fall away from the Trueth and bee cut off as well as other Churches otherwyse if shee only had bene priviledged with infallibility this exhortation fore-named and this commination subjoyned had bene altogether needless neither should he spoken conditionally thus If thou continue but particularly excepted her as one that could
thus sayeth GREGORIE Quando non maneret apud eos qui ascensurus erat coelum promitit dicens Ecce ero vobiscum vsque ad consummationem soeculi sed Vcrbum incarnatum manet recedit recedit corpore manet divinitaete apud eos ergo tunc se mansisse perhibet quia qui invisibili semper potestate presens erat corporali jam visione recedebat That is When Hee was not to abyde with them who was to ascend to Heaven Hee promised saying Behold I am with you vnto the worldes end But this incarnate Word Hee both abydeth with vs and is departed from vs Hee is departed in His Bodie but Hee abydeth in His Deitie Hee sayd therefore that Hee should abyde with them Because by His invisible power Hee was ever present who in His corporall presence was to depart out of their sight As also That the Bread in the Sacrament of the Supper remayneth still in its former substance after Consecration POPE GELASIUS clearly doth testtifie saying Certè Sacramenta quae sumimus Corporis Sanguinis CHRISTI divina res est propter quod divinae per eundem efficimur consortes naturae tamen esse non desinit substantia vel natura Panis Vini c. That is Surelie the Sacrament of CHRISTS Bodie and Blood which wee take is a Divine thing Because wee are made partakers there-in of the Divine Nature And yet not-with-standing The Substance or Nature of Bread and Wyne departeth not or leaveth not off to remayn CHAP. X. Agaynst with-holding of the Cup from the People or Half-Communion CONCERNING this thus sayeth GREGORIE Quid sit Sanguis Agni non jam audiendo sed bibendo didicistis And agayn Ejus Sanguis non jam in manus fidelium sed in ora fidelium infunditur That is What the Blood of the Lamb is yee haue learned now not by hearing there-of but by Drinking the same And this His Blood is not given into the handes of the Faythfull Communicants but it is Powred in into their mouthes Also thus sayeth POPE IULIUS Ubi Apostolus corpus sanguinem commendavit seorsim Panis seorsim Calicis commendatio memoratur Last of all sayeth POPE GELASIUS Comperimus quod quidam sumpta tantummodo corporis sacri portione à Calice Sacri cruoris abstineant qui proculdubio quoniam nescio qua superstitione docentur obstringi aut integra Sacramenta percipiant aut ab integris arceantur quia divisio vnius ejusdemque mysterii sine grandi sacrilegio non potest provenire That is sayth IULIUS Where the Apostle recommendeth the Bodie and Blood of CHRIST to bee taken Hee mentioneth the taking of the Bread apart by it selff And the taking of the Cup in lyke manner apart by it selff not having known then Popish Concomitance Also wee fynd sayeth GELASIUS That there are some who take onlie a part of the Sacred Body of CHRIST but abstayneth from the Cup of His Sacred Blood who truelie because ● know not by what superstition they are bound vp and taught so Therefore they must either receaue the whole Sacrament or bee debarred from the whole Because the division of one and the same mystery can not bee without the commtiting of a great Sacriledge FINIS A TABLE Of the Controversies contained in this Treatise I. Of SCRIPTURE Where-in 1. THat the Apocrypha books are not Canonicall Scripture Pag. 29. and 75 2. That People should not be debarred from reading the Scriptures 30. and 77 3. That the Authority of the Church is not aboue the Scriptures 31 4. That the Scripture is perfect without vnwritten Traditions 32. and 76 II. Of the CHURCH Where-in 1. THat the Holy Catholik Church is only of the Elect. Pag. 33. and 79 2. That the Church of true Professours is not ever and alyke conspicuous 34. 3. That True Doctrine is the Essentiall Note of the True Church 35 4. That Unitie except in Trueth is no Note thereof Pag. 36 5. That Multitude is no Note thereof 37 6. That the Church of Rome may erre 38 7. That Separation from Her is no Schism 39 III. Of the Head of the Church Where-in 1. THat CHRIST is only the Head and Husband there-of Pag. 40. and 81 2. That the Pope as Bishop of Rome is not Peters Successour 41 3. That the Pope ought to be subject to the Civill Magistrate 43. and 88 4. That CHRIST only and not the Pope is that Rock whereon the Church is built 78 IV. Of the Churches worship Where-in 1. THat GOD only is to be invocated Pag. 44 2. That CHRIST is our only Mediatour 46 3. That all Images of the godhead are idolatrous 47 4. That no Image is to be bowed vnto nor worshipped 48. and 93 5. That the worship of Dulia or Service is due to GOD only 49 V. Of the Churches true doctrine Where-in 1. OF Sinne That Concupiscence in the Godly is sinne properly Pag. 5● 2. That no Sinne is Veniall But all Mortall 5● 3. That the Virgin Mary was not conceave● without Sinne 5● 4. Of Election That it is not for fore-seen Fayth or Works 53 5. Of our Calling That there are no Merits of Congruity 53 6. That in our first conversion we haue no Free-will 54. and 95 7. Of Iustification That it is by Fayth only 55 and 97 8. That Iustifying Fayth is not an vncertayn conjecture 56 9. Of the certaynty of Salvation agaynst Popish doubting 58 10. That no Implicite Fayth sayeth 59 11. Of Sanctification That no man can perfectly keep GODS Law Let be Supererogate 60. and 99 12. Of Glorification That Good works are not meritorious of Eternall Lyff 61. and 103 13. That there are no Satisfactory Penall Works in this lyff 62. and 101 14. Neither any Satisfactory Sufferings after this lyff Pag. 36 15. Of Perseverance That the Sayncts can not totally finally fall away 64 16. Of Meats That none are to be abstayned from for conscience sake 65 VI Of the Sacraments Where-in 1. THat Sacraments conferre not Grace ex opere operato Pag. 66 2. That Baptism is not absolutely necessary to Salvation 67 3. That in the LORDS SUPPER there is no Transsubstantiation 69. and 106 4. That the Mass is no Propitiatory Sacrifice 71 5. That the Cup should not be with-holden from the people 107 VII Of PURGATORIE THat there is no Fyre of Purgatorie after this lyff Pag. 72. and 105 FINIS ERRATA Pag. lin. for reade 11 1 it it it is 42 14 that can that he can 65 13 judge him not judge him 80 19 within without 88 4 Pope hath hath not 100   responderi respondere Rev. 17. 4 Rev. 13. 11. Isai. 1. 20 Math. 19 8. Iude 3. 4. Ier. 6. 16. 1. King 1● 21. Greg. l. 4. regist. epist. 39. Platina in vita Bonifacii 3. Card. Cus l. 1. de Cōcordan cathol. c. 15. Amb. cath in Gal. 2. Lyra in Mat. 16. Erasm. in 1. Cor. 7. Consil.