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A18448	The oration of the most noble and reverende father in God the Lorde Cardinalles Grace of Lorrain made and pronounced in thassemblie [sic] at Poyssi, the kyng beyng present, the sixtene daye of Septembre, in the yeare of our Lorde 1561 / translated out of Frenche into Englishe by T.S.	Guise, Charles de, Cardinal de Lorraine, 1525-1574.	1561 (1561)	STC 5010.5; ESTC S283	23,800	31

dispersed in the churche and a congregation of them in one certaine place in the name of oure Lorde God And if our Lorde haue assured and promised by his woorde one or two beyng gathered together in his name to bee in the myddest of them shoulde he refuse to bee amonge suche then as are farre better and in more nombre laufully assembled we ought truely then to crie oute with Dauid Psal 110 Great are the woorkes of our Lorde in the councell of the iuste and in their congregation But it hath ben declared vnto vs that not onely the prouinciall counsels haue bene corrected by the generall counsels but also which is a more matter that one generall counsel hath ben amended by an other De baptism 11 2. cap. 3. We knowe this to be saint Augustins sayeng whiche we say is to be vnderstand when there is question of customes and of discipline which do change accordyng to the tyme and will be changed accordyng to the qualitie of the places tymes and persons as it is seene by experience De sanguine suffocato But in tharticles of the faith and in thynges necessary to our saluation the holy ghost is the director in whom is no contradiction or contrarietie and so we beleue it That it is otherwyse it ought to be proued or els no more spoken of For if it were so in vaine and without profite our ancient fathers haue had thervnto suche recourse and reposed in them so great affiance in all the myseries and calamities of the churche and should not therof haue founde by experience the successe so happie Of which good fathers that are gone before vs behold what we saye That euery of them was a man so might erre But that all in one selfe same article or assemblie in one selfe same do at diuers times dispersed throughoute the churches haue erred Godlye counsell and admonitioÌ„ to knovv the churche VinceÌ„t LyrineÌ„sis we denie and mainteine it to bee impossible groundyng the same vpon gods infallible promesse Very profitably therfore one among those fathers for the conclusion of this purpose dothe geue vs councell and faith in this wise What shall we doo say the catholikes if any parte of the churche doth separate it self from the coÌ„munion of the vniuersall faith preferre the body beyng yet holle before a corrupt and sicke membre But if the sore haue thupper hande and beginneth to attempt thinfection of the churche then leane and cleane vnto the antiquitie and returne to the mothers whiche are the principall and first churches Emong whom al the antiquitie hath had recourse vnto the Romain churche and hath alwaies accompted her to be the first and principall among the Apostolicall churches as Ireneus Tertullian and S. Austen doo beare witnesse recountyng the bishops vntill their tymes who with all other auncient fathers haue alwais acknowleged that churche as the chief See of all Christendome callynge the Bishoppe thereof Primae Sedis Episcopum Nowe if in this antiquitie there be founde any errour either in any author or in any particular towne or prouince then against suche ignorance and temeritie of a fewe persons lay the decrees of ancient and vniuersall counsailes and if in those counsailes ye fynde nothyng serche diligently the sentences of all the ancient fathers approued by the churche writen to that purpose and gather and collect them together from all tymes and from all places as thoughe they were all together present at a Councell And that whiche all they haue openly and at sundrye tymes with greate continuance agreed accorded written and witnessed with one consent Knowe ye that without any doubte ye oughte the same to beleue and therevnto to submitte and subiecte your selues And aboue all thinges geue place as they doo to the expresse worde of God and to the testimonie of the scripture This is that we haue intreated concernynge the first point This is the authoritie that we geue to the holye scriptures to the determinations of the councells to the writinges of the olde and ancient fathers which order we purpose to obserue both for the confirmation of our flocks in the faithe and also to brynge home agayne suche as are gone astraye whiche can deuise none other waye to haue their doctrine and priuate interpretation to be credited and beleued but to despise and condemn thautoritie of the hole who reiectyng thantiquitie go about to bryng in estimation of their owne nouelties and deuises A thyng truely wherewith the Arrians were greatly troubled and dyd very well disclose Nestorius Samosatenus and dyuers other Euse li. 7. ca. 30. Socrat. lib. 7. capit 32. and doubtlesse shall reuele all suche as will discerne a strawe in their neighbors eie and can not see a blocke in their owne Nowe I come to the last poynte of my oration whiche although it be last yet in very dede the principalst We haue conceyued an extreme grefs and sorowe suche a one as can not be disseÌ„bled which is that the most holy blessed sacrameÌ„t of the Eucharistie which our lorde lefte vnto vs for a band of vnitie and of his peace by a certaine curiositie I can not terme it more gently of searchyng thynges aboue oure capacitie Eccle 3. which contrary to the counsell of the wise man is made not onely an argumente of infinite controuersie and altercatioÌ„ but also a right waie wholly to destroy the truth or at the lest to expel driue away the same And in nothing els truly is the comon prouerbe By to muche disputyng debatyng the truthe is lost more veâ—fied than in this For not onely the truthe dooth perishe The Sacramente of the bodye and bloud of Christ 1. Cor. 10. Math 5. Ioan 6 but the fruite also which we should therby receaue if we vse it wel which consisteth in foure poyntes The firste is the vnitie and reconciliation whiche we ought to haue and make one with an other For it is written that we beyng many in numbre are al but one body which do participate of one breade and of one cuppe And it is commanded that when one dothe make his oblation to the altare he ought first to reconcile hymselfe to his brother The secoÌ„d is the vnitie with IESVS CHRIST Who sayth he that eateth my fleshe drinketh my bloode dwelleth in me 1. Co. 10 and I in hym The bread whiche we breake is it not the coÌ„munion of the body of Iesus Christ and the cup is it not the communion of his blood The thirde fruite is the forgeuenesse of sinnes For truly this blood is shed for the remission of sinnes The fowerth last is the attaynyng of lyfe euerlastyng For he that eateth this bread saith our lord shall lyue euerlastyngly All the contrary wherof cometh by this disputation Diuision among vs separation from god priuation from the remission of sinnes and from atteinyng of life euerlastyng For out of the churche there is no saluation and who so

in baptisme and to eate his bodye and drynke his bloode at his holy table To be shorte if you or any other do so fasten and lodge Christe onely in heauen that in no wise you wyll haue hym founde vppon earthe and so no more In caena quam in scena Imo quam in coeno Whiche wordes be not requisite to be translated for feare of such as be weake we contrarywise beyng taughte that the supper is celebrated here benethe in this world and not aboue in heauen and beyng not so quicke witted subtill or wise that we can comprehend a thyng verily and in substance absent from the sayd supper to be not withstandyng veryly and substancially exhibited and receaued and for a conclusion to bee there and not to bee there for feare to dispoyle and euacuate the holy signes of thynges onely figured and represented and not presented or to be presented to separate absent and seuer theym as farre as heauen is frome the earth Whereunto we answere you with like wordes That we be as farre of from your opinioÌ„ in this case as the highest parte of the heauens is from the lowest parte of the earthe Or lette them all see and iudge whiche measureth the pointes of our religion as they ought to be measured by Theologie and not by philosophie whether of vs dothe attribute more to Iesus Christ our lorde god whether ye or any other among you whiche doo mainteine that there is a place so prescript in heueÌ„ whervnto he is ascended wherin onely he is according to the body els where he cannot be or we who although we beleue him to be in heauen do not for all that ceasse to beleue that he is in all places where his holye mysteries are celebrated and not otherwise making no further inquirie of the maner than as his omnipotent worde dothe teache Graunt most puissant mightie god August in psalm â—in de coÌ„sec di â— can prima heresis Ioan. 6. that as the first heresie among the disciples of his sonne our sauior toke the like occasion of his worde Durus est hic sermo which was so difficulte that diuers of them murmuryng wente backe and folowed him no more so also that this new and last controuersie This Sacramentarie warre I say which so often dothe renew take not away from vs thoccasion of commune accord consent of reducyng and appeasing thinges to a better quietnesse of our bodies soules and to a more tranquillitie to the realme and aboue all things that it maye not trouble or let our reformation presently in hand which we haue begon in such sort as it is most necessarie bothe for vs and our flockes But principally that it will please hym to preserue vs that in these latter days and moste perillous tymes that prediction doo not chaunce whyche a manne of great name and estimation among our aduersaries MelaÌ„ch ad Oecolam an 1525. dissuading a companion of his in the beginnyng to remoue from him this filthie tragedie foretelling him almoste prophecieng that it threatned an horrible mutation not onely to kyngdoms empires but also to the hole church To Beza and his coÌ„panie the protestantes Me think I haue beÌ„ more troublesom vnto you by reson of my loÌ„g processe thaÌ„ I wold haue ben yet not so much persuaded you as I was desirous to haue done which if you wil wtout auctoritie or reson coÌ„tinue beleue no tyme of yeres passed euen froÌ„ the death of our sauior from the primitiue church vntil your owne separation we wil coÌ„mit you to your own choise And if without cause for mainteining a quarel so iust you haue vs in such hatrede and that so by open confession you will deuide your selues from vs that we seme not worthie in your sighte to liue or remaine with you nor in the selfe same temples I tremble at the speakyng of it to pray and make sacrifice to God and to administer the SacrameÌ„tes yet at the least refuse not the Greke churche for iudge in this controuersie if you so much abhorre the Latin that is to say the Romaine churche takyng recourse to a particular churche seyng the vniuersall churche doothe myslike you What doo I speake of the Greke church Nay beleue the confession of Ausbrough and the churches that hath receiued the same and you shal fynde your selues vanquished of them all But if you can not fynde place with them whiche be deuided from vs and that you agreyng with them almoste in all other poyntes and in this poynte of this moste precious sacrament you can not agree what other hope of agreement with vs but onely by wordes can we conceue whiche differ from you bothe in this in many other pointes And if you be so sore addicted to your solitarie opinion become in effecte solitarie If you wille come no nerer to our faith to our actions get you also further of from vs and trouble not the flockes wherof you haue no charge nor yet any laufull administration For the same to vs appertaineth according to the authoritie which we receaue from God And geuyng leysure to youre newe opinions to waxe old so long if God permitte it as our doctrine traditions haue done For we lay vnto you the prescriptioÌ„ of the sens of the scripturs with more reason than was done in Tertulians tyme whiche shal be a cause to restore peace to so many troubled consciences and to leaue your countrey in quietnesse and reste To the kyng Wherein Sire we all doo moste humbly beseche you in the name of God by whom you are called to this estate to holde your hande and that it will please you to continue in this holy profession of Faith whiche we haue here presently declared vnto you accordyng to that whiche the Vniuersall churche hath ealwayes taughte whiche is agreable to the woorde ordinance of God And in this so doyng you shal resuscitate and in you plentuously reuiue the graces whiche god hath placed in holy religion not only in your graÌ„dmother Quene Claude Quene Claude Quene Katharine Kynge Fraunces the first Kynge Henry the seconde Fraunces the second and in youre mother Quene Katherine our soueraigne lady not onely I say in that mightie and wise kyng Francis the firste your grandfather in that good and so welbeloued Henrye your father in that well condicioned kyng Francis your brother but also in as many kynges all your predecessors and all our soueraigne lordes froÌ„ that firste kyng Clouis euen vnto you of whom neuer was there one that strayed from this holy Catholike faith no not one euer founde to forsake the religion of his ancesters and they all haue by succession left and transmitted vnto you this name of moste christian kyng and fyrste sonne of the churche God almightie graunt that your successors maye receaue the same frome you in like integritie and perfection and that our God vpon you our soueraigne lorde nor vpon your subiectes do exercise his mighty hand and the punishementes of his iuste iudgementes And you madam seyng the whole realme hathe geuen vnto you all maner of administration and gouernement during the minoritie of oure kyng and soueraigne LORDE keepe vs well this iewell soo precious and rendre hym agayne vnto vs when he shall haue accomplished his full yeares of the selfe same religion and fayth wherin he is deliuered vnto you and wherein hytherto you haue so carefullye instructed hym And herein you shall doo an acte so greate as that holy quene Clotide dyd whiche is set before your eies to folowe who by her holye instructions was the meane and cause of bryngyng of Clowis her husband to the christian religion And you madame herein shall kepe the kyng your sonne well instructed To the quenes mother accordynge to the intente and will of that good kyng Henry your husbande Wherfore madame in the name of your saide beloued husbande we moste humbly beseche you that lyke as we haue nothynge that next after God more deere vnto your grace than your commune and euer pardurable and indissoluble loue euen so therfore aswell in this poinct as in all others ye wyll folowe and execute his sacred wille and not to suffer his memory to be condemned nor yet the remeÌ„brance of that mightye kyng Frauncis your father in lawe which called you to the great and happy mariage of his son to the intente their good expectatioÌ„ in you for the bringing vp of their childreÌ„ should not be altogether frustrate and deceaued To the king of Nauarre and princes of the bloud We doubt not but in this doing you shall be well asisted by the king of Nauarre by our lordes the princes of the bloud who will not degenerat from their most christian progenitours The self same counsail wil those noble meÌ„ geue vnto you which ar called to the honorable state of the kings couÌ„cel The same also the Peres and officers of France all which haue bene nourished and aduanced by these good kinges and therfore will call to remembraunce their will and pleasure And ye most noble and christian assembly present in this thing shal shew your selues not onely true christians and faithful seruauntes to god but also most louing and harty subiectes to your king wherby we al trust by gods help that this whole realme shall bee sounde in one vnitie And to make an ende Sire we all with one heart with one voice and in the name of al the french church do vow vnto god solemnly promise vnto your grace neuer to departe from this holy true and catholike doctrine Which we will take payne to publish in our churches and for the maintenaunce therof we wil not spare to spende our hole bloud and liues as in like manner we wil shew our selues alwais both redy and mindful touching any affaires that shal concerne your maiesties seruice and the maintenance of your croune FINIS

sundry ages because we shall fynde theym all to agree In the firste hundred yeares let vs appeale and calle for the apostelles and their successours as S. Clement s Ignatius and s Denis In the second hundred Alexander the firste Iustine Ireneus Tertullian Origene and Cyprian In the thirde hundred yeares Arnobius Lactantius Eusebius Athanasius sainct Hyllarie Emissene Isichius Nazianzene S. Ambrose S. Hierom S. Augustin S. Iohn Chrysostom In the fourth hundreth Leo the great Prosper Theodorite and Cyrill And in the .v. hundred let vs come to S. Gregorie further more if ye will let vs call Damascene and long after hym S. Bernard These shal be the iudges of our controuersies which be not to be suspected and of those which be most notable and ancient ye shal haue a brefe repetitioÌ„ or recital to thintent ye may acknowledge that by the coÌ„mune vniuersal agreement of the holie Fathers there is no place or occasioÌ„ lefte vnto vs herein Hilla li. â— de trinitate to doubte of the veritie of this body blood For by the words of our lord by our faith It is verily flesh verily blood which beyng receiued Accepta ait hausta doo so worke and make that we be in hym and he in vs. Is not this tho truthe But this can not be true to them which wholly deny Iesus Christ to be very God and to be the same which hath alwaies been in the churche of God so generally in all mens mouthes that amonge the sacramentes of the coÌ„mune faith the veritie of the body and blood of IESVS CHRIST was not had in silence no not by the mouthes of infantes Leo epiâ— 13 vnto whom as to all other for otherwise we shold not beleue it much lesse vnderstand the same it was and is daiely saied and shall be vttered by the moste graue authoritie of the Churche that the same which is taken of the fruites of the earth and in the celebration of this sacrament placed vpon thaltare receiued after the custome of religion consecrated by mysticall praier offred and geuen and after the celebration finished as it appertayneth receiued to spirituall saluation vsed or consumed in the remembrance of the passion is the body and bloode of Iesus Christ whiche we perfectely beleue hath appeared in the kynde of humaine fleshe and that this likour or drinke did runne downe and distill from the side of him that was perced vpon the crosse Augu. li. 3. de trinite 4. 10 These good Fathers I say did teache their Auditorie to doubte nothyng at all before they should communicate at this holie table of the veritie of the body and blood of IESVS CHRIST Iohn 19 Leo sermo 6. de Ieiu 7. mens Chrys hom 7. operis impfect 1. Cor. 1. Isychius Leui. 22 For that is by the mouthe receyued whyche by the harte is beleued And in vaine they answer Amen which disputeth against that whiche they receaue They made no difficultie to saie that by the hande of the priest there is geuen and receaued not onely that which is seen and sanctified by him that gaue it but also that whiche there is vnderstanded is that sanctification whiche sanctifieth the receauour euen the bodye without doubt of our Lorde whiche as Sainct Paule writeth was made a sanctification for vs by the Father Contrary wise doo they affirme that he which ignorantly or through ignorance receaueth this holy misterie there not withstandyng he knoweth not the vertue thereof yet the same is the true bodye and bloode of our Lorde IESVS CHRIST In this wise thus plainly did the holy doctors both Greke and Latine speake touching this matter now long sithens Whose words specially of som of them we haue repeted so faithfully as we coulde So plainly I say haue our ancient fathers writen that one of them beyng the first BereÌ„garius apud Gu. Malingberien lib. 3 de gestis Anglo which long time after theÌ„ did otherwise teach that is to say that the body blood of Iesus Christ was none otherwise in this sacrameÌ„t but as a token or signe And after he had therof wel aduised himselfe disputed reasoned did not only in his lyfe time chaÌ„ge his opinion but also at the point of deth which is the time to confesse the truth or neuer in his last words affirmiÌ„g stedfastly spake as foloweth Truly we beleue these misteries after the benedictioÌ„ or ecclesiastical coÌ„secration to be the very body blood of our sauior being induced and perswaded to beleue the same by thauctoritie of thancient churche We thaÌ„ beleue coÌ„fesse acording to the saying of the scripture and of the holy fathers that the body blood of Iesus Christ by thunspeakable operation of the grace of god the power of his holy spirite is in these holy misteries present geuen receiued we passe ouer to speake of the greatnes therof Chrysohâ—â€¦ i. 8â— in Mat. Wherby we shold seme to make our lord to be here outwardly visible sensible or perceptible Nothing saieth a holy father is here geuen vnto vs sensible but vnder visible sygnes inuisible thinges are there deliuered vnto vs. Ho. 60 ad popu antioch We absteine also from such maner of speache whereby contrary wise we might here seme onely to represent oure said sauiour being absent as in a tragedy or comedy Truely the maner and facion wherby he doth here present him selfe to vs wherby he geueth himself The maner of Christhi being in the sacrament Iohn 1. Cy. li. 4. in l 3. ca 1 14. Cy. Lu. 22 citaÌ„te Tho. 3 parte que 25 articu 1. Ioan. 6 where by he is receiued and participated is secret not humaine or natural and yet not therfore the lesse true We comprehend it not by sence reason or nature but by faith By which as the holy counsel of Nice the first of the foure chiefest dooth teache vs not to basely respectinge the visible elementes but lifting vppe the spirit we consider by faith the laÌ„be of god to be there set in this holy table taking away the sinne of the world and truly we there receaue his precious body and bloud Better it is to follow the councell of the auncientes firmely to beleue the wordes of oure lorde god leauing vnto god of this his worke the meane the way and knowledge then in so highe a matter to thinke or vtter this Iewish word Quamodo a worde I saye of incredulitie perdition to the Iewes such as follow them Beleue saith the holy fathers vpoÌ„ these words so often repeted Hoc est corpus meum Make no doubte thereat whether they bee true but receaue by faith the saying of our sauiour For seing that he is the truth Bernat ser 2 de caena he cannot lye Greate meruelies my brethern and thinges to be wondered at are saide of this sacrameÌ„t faith is there necessary Reason superfluous knowledge doth builde her foundation vpon

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