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A16701	The apologie of the Romane Church deuided into three seuerall tractes whereof 1. The first, concerneth the antiquitie and continuance of the Catholike Romane religion ever since the Apostles time. 2. The second that the Protestantes religion was not so much as in being, at or before Luthers first appearing. 3. The thirde that Catholickes are no lesse loyall and dutifull to their soveraigne, then Protestantes. All which are vndertaken and proued by testimonies of the learned Protestantes themselues.	Anderton, Lawrence.; Anderton, James, fl. 1624, attributed name.	1604 (1604)	STC 3604; ESTC S119868	294,461	212

of the whole time since the Apostles to this present that (¶) See Mr. Bunny in his treatise tending to pacificatiō Sect 14. circa med pa. 89. the Church of Rome hath euer continued after a sorte in the profession of the faith since the time that by the Apostles it was deliuered to them c. and hath also in some manner preserued and hitherto maintained both the word and the sacraments that Christ himselfe did leaue vnto vs which surely saith he is a very speciall blessing of God an euident worke of the holy Ghost c. And thus much briefly whether that the Romane Church professing the right faith in the Apostles times hath at any time since euer altred or changed the same against our foresaid discourse wherof grounded vpon seuerall truthes confessed euen by our aduersaries if any boulder forehead shal wilfully oppose it selfe shall without other answere or respecte had to that which his learned brethren haue heretofore cōfessed and we otherwise proued leape ouer al the foresaide proofes and ages iumping per saltum vp to the Apostles then tell vs (*) So Mr. Whitaker l 7 Contra Duraeum pa. 478 ante medium saith Nobis sufficit ex Pontificiorū dogmatū scripturarum collatione discrimen dissimilitàdinē●gnoscere historicis liberum relinquimus scribere quid v● lint that howsoeuer we proue from histories Fathers or other testimonie of their owne writers concerning euery of the ages since the Apostles times yet the scriptures thēselues are in his (¶) Hereof see hereafter Tract 2. c. 1. Sect. 1. initio in the margent at the letter p. and 〈◊〉 q. opinion contrary in many points to that faith which the Romane Church now professeth and that therein therefore she hath changed the faith which was first to her deliuered Besides that this is a most needie and miserable begging of the thing in question against which we doe vehemently contest as being more then perswaded that our aduersaries cannot truely alleage from the first of Genesis to the last of the Reuelations so much as any one texte of scripture which maketh with them and against vs. Let that man all other of his minde yet also further consider that for so much as the sacred SCRIPTVRES them selues do as before (t) See heretofore Tract 1. Sect. 8. l. n. o. and hereafter Tract 2. c. 2. Sect 1. prope initium affirme that the Churches true Pastours must euermore continew and withstand all innouation of false doctrine euen with open reprehension The answerable performance wherof in perticuler being matter of fact can be to vs at this day no otherwise made knowen then vpon the onely credite of humane testimonie commended to vs by historie (u) Mr. Whitaker Contra Duraeum l. 7. page 472. saith Quicquid de Ecclesiae Propagatione Amplitudine gloria veteres Prophetae predixerunt id perfectum esse historia Luculentissime testatur ita vatic inijs Prophetarum Ecclesiasticam historiā suffragari nulla controuersia est the force of which testimonie our very aduersaries acknowledge (*) Mr. Hooker in his Ecclesiastical Policie l. 2. p. 115. initio saith The strength of mans authoritie is affirmatiuely such that the weightest affaires in the world depend there-vpon And ibidem pag. 116. ante medium VVhatso-euer we beleeue concerning saluation by Christ although the scripture be therin the grounde of our beleefe yet is mans authoritie the keye that openeth the dore c. The scripture coulde not teach vs these thinges vnlesse wee beleeued men c And ibidem l. 1. page 86. ante medium Of thinges necessarie the very cheefest is to knowe what bookes we are bound to esteeme holy which point is confessed impossible for the scripture it selfe to teach And l. 2. Sect. 4. page 102. fine for if any one booke of scripture did giue testimonie to all yet still that scripture which giueth credit to the rest would require an other scripture to giue credit vnto it neither coulde we euer come to any pause whereon to rest our assurance vnlesse besides scripture there were some thinge which might assure vs. c. vpon which ground l. 3. Sect. 8. page 146. fine he saith VVe all knowe that the first out-ward motiue leading men so to esteeme of the scripture is the authority of Gods Church And Mr. Whitaker aduersus Stapletonum l. 2. c. 4. page 298. post med saith non nego traditionem Ecclesiasticam esse argumentum quo argui conuinci possit qui libri sunt canonici qui non And ibidem page 300. ante medium Hoc semper dixi sensique vide ibidem l. 1. page 25. ante medium And in his booke against Mr. VVilliam Rainoldes page 44. circa med In so much as the Protestant author of the treatise of the scripture and the Church so greatelie commended by Bullinger in his preface before that booke doth after the Englishe translation thereof cap. 15 page 72 say we coulde not beleeue the ghospell were it not that the Church taught vs and witnessed that this Doctrine was deliuered by the Apostles And see further there cap. 19. page 74. 75. that there-fore the same SCRIPTVRES do therein most euidently perforce reduce them to this foresaid triall by historie and Fathers whereto if they stand their ouerthrow they see is certaine and in refusing the same their flight is shamefull As for the further extremest bouldnes of such who are in these straites resolued not to acknowledge the (⁋) Iohannes Regius in libro apologetico c. page 192. post medium and 193. being vrged to shew wherein the Romane Church changed her faith and not able to giue any one perticuler example thereof betaketh him-selfe to this extreemest bouldnes answering page 193. post medium Sed denique licet verum esset Romanam Ecclesiam in sua religione nihil mutasse an propterea mox sequetur eam esse veram Ecclesiam Non opinor In defence whereof he is not ashamed to alleadge sondry impertinent reasons vnworthy of rehersall Romane Church to be a true Church though it were true that she had not changed any thing in religion We passe the same ouer as being most absurde and much more worthy of contempt then answere THE SECOND TRACT FIRST CHAPTER SECT 1. THAT CHRISTS CHVRCH VVAS BY the Predictions of the Prophets foretolde to become vniuersall and to conuert with great increase the Kinges and Nations of the Gentiles AND for so much most GRATIOVS SOVERAIGNE as it hath bin the course of certaine our aduersaries vnder the pretence of onely scripture to vnder take libertie of reiecting all our former confessed proofes drawen from the authoritie of Mir●cles though neuer so true of Fathers though neuer so auncient and so thereby in the end making them selues and euery of their vulgar followers Iudges (p) Luberius in libro de principijs christian dogm l. 6. c. 13. page 563. ant● med saith Omnes publicos Iudices vt interpretando

Easter day then seeming very slender (t) The Churches of Asia not denying the feast of Easter but differing onely from the Romane Church in the day on which it should be kept wherin also they had as they presumed the fore mentioned example and tradition of S. Iohn for their warrant thought this no iust cause of excomunication excomunicate the Bishopes of Asia wherein saith Mr. Fulke (v) mr Fulke in his answere to a counterfaite Catholicke page 36 post med he passed the boundes of his Authoritie howso-euer the Bishopes of Asia in respect of the saide occasion seeming to them so slender censured Victor as ouer seuere (x) Euseb hist l. 5 c. 23 24 yet which is most to be obserued no one of them though thus in their owne opinion prouoked chargeth him as in all reason if they might they would with any vndue claime or exercise of vsurped authoritie (y) Euseb hist l. 5 c. 24. initio reporteth how Ireneus who thought Victor ouer sharpe herein admonisheth Victor by letters that he would not for the obseruation of a Tradition so long vsed quite cut of so many Churches from the bodye of the vniuersall Church in which wordes he doth not so much impugne as plainely acknowledge his authoritie for how could Victor so cut them of vnles he had authoritie therin euen Ireneus him selfe who stood most herein acknowledgeth so plainely els where the Primacie of the Romane see that he is therefore specially reprehended (*) Cent. 2. c. 4 col 64 l. 10. It is said Nouitatē deinde quandā illud recipere quibusdam videri posset quod in exemplaribus Irenei qualia nunc h●bemus extat libro tertio cap. tertio Ad hanc Ecclesiam propter potentiorem principalitatem necesse ●st omnem conuenire Ecclesiam c. And in the Alphabeticall table of that centurie at the word Ireneus speciall reference being there made to this saying of Ireneus it is withall saide therof Irene● corrupta sen●entia de ●r ma●u Ecclesiae Romanae 64 12. by the Centurie writers of Magdeburge 2 Secondly Mr. Whitaker (z) Whitaker contra Duraeum l. 7. p. 480 giueth example In Zozimus Bonifacius and Celestinus Bishopes of Rome (a) mr Fulke in his answere to a counterfaite Catholicke pa. 37 circa medium Challenging saith Mr. Fulke Prerogatiue ouer the Bishops in Aphrica by forging a false Canon of the Nicen Councell Whereto we answere that the former example of Victor who liued about some 200. yeares before these fully auoideth this obiection for if Victor so long before them challenged primacie then did they but continue it and not first bring it in As for the suspition (b) The suspition which Protestantes enforce was this Zozimus Boniface and Celestinus to prooue vnto the Bishoppes of Aphrica appeales vnto Rome alleaged in behalfe therof the Nicene Councell whervpon saith mr Iewell in the 4. article of his replye The said Aphricane Bishopes wrote to the Bishoppes of the East to see their copies of the Nicene Councell vpon returne of which Copies from Cirrill Bishope of Alexandria and Atticus of Constantinople there appeared therein no such Canon As also say they neither in the 22 Canons set downe by Rufinus hist l. 10 c. 6 doth any such Canon appeare whereupon Protestants vrge this to haue bene a forgery and innouation in Zozimus Boniface and Celestinus of pretended forgery of the Canons of the Nicen Councell by Zozimus Boniface and Celestinus it is both vntrue (c) Vntrue for betweene the time of the Nicene Councell and of the foresaid Bishopes Cirrill of Alex andrra and Atticus of Constantinople The Arrianes had occupied those sees whereof see Socrates l. 2. Zozom l. 4. Theodoret. l. 2. and Niceph. l. 9 10 and corrupted the true originals of the Nicene Councell so as the Canons which Rufinus setteth downe and which Cirrill and Atticus sent howsoeuer those Fathers thought of them were false and corrupted which to be true appeareth many waies 1 First in that sondry auncient Fathers haue alleaged sondry Canons of the Nicene Councell which are not to be found in these As for example Ambrose ep 82 saith It was decreed in the Nicene Councell Ne bigamus in clerum asciscatur S. Austine ep 110 saith It was there decreed Ne Episcopus sibi successorem sufficiat Hierom. in praefat Iudith saith concerning the booke of Iudith Hunc librum Synodus Nicena in numero Sanctarum scripturarum legitur computasle And the Fathers of the second generall Councell of Constantinople which was 30 yeeres before Zozimus in their Sinodicall letters written to the Bishopes of Italye Damasus and others extant in Theodoret hist l. 5 c. 9. post medium affirme that there was sanctorum Patrum in Concilio Niceno decisio vt videlicet singularum Prouinciarum antistites vná cum finitimis modo ipsis ita visum fuerit Episcopis ministros ad ecclesiarum commodum in suis ipsorum prouincijs ordinent Iulius who was Bishope of Rome presently after the Nicene Councell in rescript contra orientales pro Athanasio c. which is in Isidors collection and a great parte thereof specially recited and alleaged verbatim by Zozomin hist l. 3. c. 7. whereof see Socrates hist l. 2 c. 11 saith Canonibus in Nicena sinodo Iubentibus non debere preter sententiam Romani Pontificijs concilia caelebrari And Socrates affirmeth accordingly that such a Canon was hist l. 2 c. 5 that it was alleaged by Iulius hist l. 2 c. 13 and so likewise doth Zozomine hist l. 3. c 9. also it is notoriouse and most certaine as appeareth by Athanasius in epistola de sinodis Armini Selenci by Eusebius de vita Constantini l. 3. c. 5. 17 18 and by Epiphan haer 69. that one principall occasion of the Nicen Councell was to determine the controuersie about the obseruation of Easter day and that accordingly those Fathers made a Canon therof To omitt sondry other like examples in that kind wherof read Concil Aphricanum Can. 14. and Leo ep 25. ad Theodosium Augustum And the Lord Archbishope of Canterburie in his defence c. page 334. post medium And to omitt likewise that the Canons alleaged by Rufinus do vary from the Canons sent by Cirrillus both in number order and matter diuers learned Protestants as Oecolampadius in libro epistolarum Occolampadij Suin glij page 664. 667. Caluin lib. 4. institut c. 17. sect 36. mr Iewell in his Apologie of the Church of England and mr Bilson now Bishoppe of Winchester in his true difference betweene c. part 4. page 555 ante med do acknowledge and mencion a Canon of the Nicene Councell concerning the Sacrament All which said Canons are wanting aswel in the 22. Canons set downe by Ruffinus as also in the 20 Canons sent by Cirrill in so much as Occolampadius vbi supra p. 664 ante med expresly chargeth our latine copies

which latter they were also called (4) Act. mon. page 41. b. circa med see Simon de Voyon in his discource vpon the Catallog of the Doctors of the Church p. 134 insabalistes They also further taught (5) Illiricus in Catal. testium veritatis p. 731. fine 745. ante med 730. circa med 732. initio 740. ante medium that Layemen women might Consecrate the Sacrament preach That (6) Illiricus ibid. page 729. circa med 747. post medium 760 circa med Cleargie men should haue no Possessions or propertie that (7) Illiricus ibid page 729. post medium there should be no diuision of Parishes nor Churches for (8) Ibid. page 749. initio 733 circa med page 760 fine a walled Church they reputed as a barne ● alleaging textes against (9) Ibid. pag 749 initio Churches made with handes that (10) Illiricus ibid. page 735. ante med 756. ante med 752. initio men ought not to swere in any case (11) Ibid. page 731 circa med 743 post med they condemned the Sacrament of marriage affirming that those (12( Ibid. married persons mortally sinned who accompanied togither without hope of issue they held (13) Ibid. page 746. ante medi. 731. post med all thinges done aboue the girdle by kissing touching wordes compression of the pappes c. to be done in charitie and not against continencie That also (14) Ibid. page 760. circa med 740. ante med and teste Osiandro in epitom histor Eccles cēt 9. 10. 11. c. page 440 post med neither Priest nor ciuill Magistrate being guiltie of mortall sinne did enioy their dignitie or were to be obeyed (15) Illiricus in Catall test Ver. page 735. post med 755. post med They condēned Prince Iudges (16) Ibidē page 730. fine They affirmed singing in the Church to be an infernall clamor And to omitt sondry other they taught that they might dissemble their religion so accordingly (17) Ibid. page 734 paulo post med they went to the Catholicke Chur●h dissembling and offered confessed and Communicated diss●mblingly By reason of which their dissimulation they secretely increased in sondry places to a great number before they could be discouered for which our aduersarie Illiricus (18) Illiricus ibidem page 722. ante med faith of them Non est quidem id omnino probandum quod in multis locis diù sine vlla publica Confessione fuerint not vnworthelie reproueth them And if Protestants will not beleeue the writers of those times reporting these and sundry other grosse errors of them why then may they not excuse in like manner Peter Bruis Almericus the Albigenses and the Apostolici or Henricianes all which liued in that age and are confessed to haue held (n) Peter Bruis denied Transubstantiation Masse Praier for the dead the single life of Priestes and Monckes Veneration of the Crosse Church musicke c. Osiander centur 12. page 282. 283. and see Catallog testium veritatis printed 1597 tom 2. page 561. 562. Almericus denied the Reall Presence C●nsing of Churches with frankencence he also taught that euery faithfull person ought to beleeue his owne saluation as surely any article of his faith Hereof see Vincentius in speculo historial and Bernardus Lutzemb de haeresibus Osiander centur 13. page 327. Also he denied Images Foxe act mon. fol. 70. vpon the A. side col 1. ante med and denied likewise Trāsubstantiation Aultars and praying to Saints herof see mr Mores Table page ●74 fine And Pantaleon in Chronograph page 98. the Albigenses denied Praier for the dead Purgatorie Confession Extreme Vnction the Popes authoritie Images Pardons Ceremonies and Traditions Hereof see Foxe act mon. fol 71. vpon the B. side col 2. post med And Cesareus Hesterbachius l. 5. c. 21. and Antoninus 4. part tit 11. c. 7. the Apostolici or Henricianes Burned Crosses denied the Reall presence and Sacrifice of the Masse Also Festiuall daies consecration of Chrisme and Oyle Purgatorie and Prayer for the dead Prayer to Saintes c. Hereof see Petrus ●●●na●●●sis lib. contra haereses c. S. Bernard serm 66. in Cantic And Bernardus Bo●aualensis vitae S. Bernardi l. 2 c. 5. and Osiander in Epi●om c. Centur. 12. page 291 ante med and Pantaleon in Cronograph page 92. sundry of the Protestants opinions as well as did the Waldenses and are yet neuerthelesse by learned Protestants reiected and reputed for (o) The Apostolici are censured for Heretickes by mr Fulke in his retentiue against Bristow c. page 124. and by Osiander centur 12. page 291. ante med And Mr. Iewell in his defence of the Apologie page 48. disclaimeth in Almaricus the Albigenses and Apostolici saying expresly of them they be none of ours And Peter Bruis is censured for an Hereticke by Osiander centur 12. page 282. 283. And see the seuerall absurd errors of Almaricus reported by Osiander in epitom hist Eccles centur 9. 10. 11. c. page 326. and of the Apostolici reported by Osiander ibidem page 291 ante med and of the Albigenses reported by Osiander ibid. page 329. and o● Peter Bruis reported by Osiander in cent 12 page 282 283. and see further heretofore tract 2. c. 2. sect 2 in the margēt at the letters q. and r. And Hospinianus in historia Sacramentaria lib. 4. page 361 post medium saith Henricus quidam cum Petro Bruis circa Annum Domini 1140 docere caepit semel tantum in ipsa vltima Domini caena Apostoli Christi corpus vere datum sub specie panis deinceps autem ●●eram deceptionem esse quod Sacerdotum ministerio dicitur aut creditur testis est refutator huius erroris Petrus Cluniacensis qui eodem tempore floruit in tractatu de Sacrificijs Heretickes in regard onely of those sundry other most absurd hereticall opinions wherwith the writers of those times do in like sorte charge them Or why also may not the now succeeding ages say as much hereafter in like excuse as well of Barrowe Browne Hacket Ardington c. as also of (p) Mr. Fulke in his answere to a counterfaite Catholicke page 62. the horrible heresies of the Anabaptistes Libertines Swenfeldianes and such otherlike of this age as haue sprong from Protest●nts holding as yet most of their opinions Or with what credit can Protestants them selues al eage the same writers to proue that the Waldenses held certaine points of thei● faith for if they depend vpon their testimonie in that how can they vpon meere supposall make it doubtfull in the other considering it is euident that in those former times the saide reporters indifferently and alike condemned all those opinions wherin the Waldenses did as then dissent from the Romane Church as not fo●eknowing which of those opinions we of this age would a low or reiect This point is yet