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A11015	A treatise of Gods effectual calling: written first in the Latine tongue, by the reuerend and faithfull seruant of Christ, Maister Robert Rollock, preacher of Gods word in Edenburgh. And now faithfully translated for the benefite of the vnlearned, into the English tongue, by Henry Holland, preacher in London; Tractatus de vocatione efficaci, quae inter locos theologiæ communissimos recensetur, deque locis specialioribus, qui sub vocatione comprehenduntur. English	Rollock, Robert, 1555?-1599.; Holland, Henry, 1555 or 6-1603.; Bèze, Théodore de, 1519-1605.	1603 (1603)	STC 21286; ESTC S116145	189,138	276

constancie of the Martyrs which daylie seale with their blood the truth of this heauenly doctrine the persecution raised by the enemies of the Church against it the enmitie of Sathan against it and the preseruation of the diuine oracles of God vnto our times and to be short the testimonie of the true Church of God for it All these are without or beside the Scripture and giue vs a secundarie kinde of demonstration whereby the holy Ghost worketh also as it pleaseth him and openeth the eies of our vnderstanding inlightening vs to see and heare God him-selfe speaking and shining in the Scripture But here we be to obserue that the holy ghost doth God rather by these meanes the testimonie of the Church and couersation of the saints prepareth vs to receiue the pretious faith not beget faith in our harts properlie and principallie by this second kinde of externall meanes for the proper and principall instrument of God to breed faith is the very word of God himselfe for it must be necessarilie either the liuely voice of God or the sacred scripture which serueth vs in steede of the liuelie voice of God himselfe but either prepares our hearts only to receiue faith afterwards Io. 4. 1. Pet. 3. 2. 3. wards by the word of God or to confirme the same in some sort beeing already ingendred in our hearts by Gods word For this cause this second kind of meanes sometimes is sent before the voice of God in the scripture whereby the holy Ghost otherwhiles makes mens minds ready to intertaine faith and grace offred This we reade of Augustine for he speaks it of himselfe I would not haue beleeued the gospell but that the authority of the Catholicke Church moued me thereunto by which words he meaneth that when he was a Manichee he was prepared by the authority and testimonie of the Church to beleeue the Gospell Afterwards notwithstanding the same holie spirit which thus prepared him by the testimonie of the Church I say the same spirit did beget faith in Augustines heart by the very scripture of the gospell whereby he did beleeue that the gospell was the verie word of God For this cause he speaks else where of himselfe And let vs follow them saith he which doe inuite vs first to beleeue that which we cannot behold Augustines wordes as yet that being strengthened by faith it selfe we may be worthie to vnderstand what we beleeue not by the relation of men but by the grace of God himselfe inwardlie confirming and inlightening our mindes So the woman of Samaria Io 4. as a member of the Church did by her kinde of preaching prepare the Samaritanes to the faith of Christ they hauing heard Christ himselfe said to the woman We beleeue no longer because of thy sayings for Io 4. 42 1. Pet. 3. 2. 3. Win them with your conuersation which are without the word we haue heard him our selues and know that this is indeed the Christ the Sauiour of the world By which wordes they plainely testified that they were prepared only by the womans testimonie to embrace the faith and that faith was ingendred in their hearts by the powerfull voice of Christ himselfe Wherefore it is cleere that sometimes this kind of meane and argument as is aforesaide goes before faith is begotten in the heart to prepare vs and sometimes this followes faith for confirmation And sometimes also this kinde of argument goes before faith and followes after it it goes before I say for preparation it followes after for confirmation For the spirit teacheth vs many waies applying himselfe to diuers men in diuers Note well Io. 3. manners as it seemeth good vnto himselfe and as mens infirmities do require And here we be to obserue that there is no absolute necessitie of this secondarie kind of argument which is externall and lesse principall to beget faith in vs. For it ought to suffice vs if the spirit teach vs onely by Gods worde but to helpe our weakenes the same spirit addeth the other secondarie kind of argument as Christ plainly teacheth vs Io. 5. where he sayth the testimonie of Iohn Baptist concerning him was not simply necessarie but that God so prouided to helpe their weakenesse and vnbeliefe ver 33. Iohn gaue testimony to the truth but I desire not the testimonie of man Neuerthelesse these things I speake that ye may be saued And that Iohns testimonie was but a secondarie argument only and that Christs owne record of himselfe was the first he sheweth plainly in the words following ver 36. But I haue a greater witnes then the witnes of Iohn for the works which the Father hath giuen me to finish the same works that I do beare witnes of me that the Father sent me And this is our iudgment concerning this argument whereby we proue the Scripture to be the word of God and our answere to the question wherefore it is so as we auouch it What the Papists thinke in this matter it is easily seene How the Papists proue the scripture to bee Gods word by their words and writings Their iudgement briefly is this The meane and principall argument and in a manner the only way with them to demonstrate the scripture to be Gods word is the testimony of the church not only the catholick as they speak but also those of their church which haue preserued the faith as they speake by contiall successions from the Apostles vnto our times and here they vnderstand principally the Popes who as they say succeeded Peter and his chaire These men will haue the Church the iudge and interpreter of all Scriptures from whose iudgement it may not be lawfull for any man to depart for an appeale to any other iudge And they ascribe this dignity prerogatiue to the testimony of the Church because they will haue the Scripture which is written in the heart of the Church to be the principall Scripture and that we account and esteeme of the voice of the Church as the very liuely voice of God himselfe as if God now spake first principally in his Church and by the voice of his Church If they will haue it so that the voice of the Church bee the primarie voice of God and the primarie Scripture of God it is euident that they deeme the greatest light we haue is to be found in the voice of the Church and the same to be most cleere and demonstratiue not only to vs but also in and by it selfe and therefore that this light inlightens the sacred Scripture not in respect of vs only but in respect of themselues also For which cause one of them hath said that the The blasphemy of Papists Scripture is of no more validity without the authority of the church then AEsops fables For the voice of the church being vnto them the primarie voice of God in all respects for as much as it is liuely and vocall and for this cause both by nature

now auouch to be only the sacred Scriptures of the old and new Testament Wherefore we plainly conclude the Scripture is most necessarie The Aduersaries oppose themselues against this assertion as against the former and they denie that the scripture is simply necessarie it is necessary say they that is it is profitable or commodious for the well being of a Church but is not so necessarie for the being nor no such thing as without which the Church can haue no being And for this cause do these men denie the necessitie of the Scripture that they may open the doore to their authoritie and traditions that is to their owne dreames which they say be simply necessary and preferre them before the scripture They are easily answered by the rules before set downe For if by scripture they vnderstand the substance of the scripture it cannot be denied that the scripture is simply necessarie but if they vnderstand not the substance onely but also the verie writing in this respect also we haue shewed it by cleere demonstratiō that the scripture is simply necessarie for that it is vnto vs in place of y e liuely voice of God himselfe Wherfore their assertion is false howsoeuer they take this word Scripture either in this sense or the other But they say the Church wanted the scripture neere two thousand yeares all which time religion was preserued by tradition only Therefore the Scripture is not simply necessarie I answer If you vnderstand by Scripture the verie substance of the couenant then your argument followeth not for the substance of the scripture was in those verie traditions whereby the Church was edified and kept But if by this word ye vnderstand the verie writing then I grant the scripture was not extant so manie yeares and I say that it was not then necessarie for that then the liuely voice of God it selfe was heard If they conclude that because it was not then necessarie therefore it is not now necessarie or that it was not necessarie after that God had commanded it and after that it began to be extant surely the consequence is very euill for as ages and times haue changed so diuers formes of reuelation were necessarie Or we may more briefly set downe this controuersie in this forme THe scripture is necessarie not onely for the well-being as Popish Schoole-men speake but also for the being of the Church Et hactenus est simplex necessitas And this necessitie is in respect of time only for there was not a necessitie of the scripture in all ages I vnderstand The word written not necessary in all ages Heb. 1. 1. 2. by the word Scripture not onely the substance of the written word but also the manner or forme of reuelation but this simple necessitie must bee auouched of the substance and forme of reuelation in diuers respects For the scripture as touching the substance of it was necessarie to the Church in all ages but in respect of the manner of reuealing the same it was necessarie for a certaine time only to wit vntill it seemed good vnto Almightie God to teach his church by the scripture ARG. 1. For the Lord God had not giuen his Church the Scripture if he had not thought it necessarie euū for the being of his Church ARG. 2. The liuely voice of God was necessarie in the time appointed for it ergo the Scripture also is necessary in the time the Lord hath decreed for it for there is but one and the same reason of both ARG. 3. It is necessarie that Gods will be reuealed and communicated to the Church at all times in one forme or other either by Gods own liuely voice or by writing or by both but now the liuely voice of God hath ceased therefore now the word written is necessarie The aduersaries deny this absolute necessitie moued hereunto with these arguments following First from Adam to Moses there was no Scripture Ergo. I answer the Lord God thought it not necessarie for all that time But when as the Lord himselfe began to write and that the 2. Pet. 1. 18. 19. 21. holy men of God were acted and moued by the holie Ghost first Prophets then Apostles then the Scripture began to be necessarie euen simply necessary ARG. 2. From Moses vnto Christ Iob and his friends both beleeued and were saued without the Scripture I answer It is most like these also read the scriptures as may appeare by the Eunuches story Act. 8. Next I answer that so manie as were called without the visible Church God dealt with them in an extraordinary manner ARG. 3. They did more attend the traditions of the Fathers then the written word euen in the second age I answer this is false ARG. 4. In the third age there was no scripture of the new Testament extant for a long season Ergo. I answer the Apostolicall scripture beganne not long after Christ Next all that time I grant it was not necessarie but when the Apostles were dead and when their liuelie voice ceased then began it to be necessary CHAP. XIIII Of the sixt propertie of the Scripture and the eight controuersie THE Scripture is perfect containing in it all things necessarie for faith and manners not onely sufficiently but also abundantly for this is the perfection which heere wee doe auouch The sense then of the Proposition is this This kind of reuelation containes all things c. The proofe is this Argument 1. The liuely voice of God contained all articles or instructions concerning faith and manners Ergo so doth the Scripture The reason of the argument is euident for that nothing in respect of substance was spoken by that liuely voice which is not recorded in the Scripture ARG. 2. If the Scripture contained not all things necessarie perfectly then euill were the condition of our Church and of our time which heareth not the liuely voice of anie man speaking by diuine inspiration nor of any prophet or Apostle ARG. 3. The religious and such as be taught of God haue an holy experience of the sufficiencie of the Scriptures and of the fulnesse of it Adde to these arguments these diuine testimonies Deut. 4. Ye shall not ad to the word that I speake c. Reuel 22. If anie shall adde to these things God shall Vers 18. adde vnto him the plagues which are written in this booke Albeit these sayings are to bee vnderstood properly of particular books yet the same reason serues for all books of the canonicall scripture and surely the reason binds more strongly for if we may not ad to particular books how much lesse is it lawfull to adde to the whole Canon Prou. 30. Thou shalt ad nothing to his words This seemes to be vnderstood of the whole Scripture Matth. 28. Teaching to obserue all things which I commanded you Gal. 1. 8. If we or an Angell from heauen shall preach vnto you another Gospel or otherwise then that which we haue preached vnto you

the Church is one The aduersaries withstand this conclusion and infring it with these arguments First the scripture is not written in mens hearts with the finger of God neither is it the primary voice of God Secondly the scripture is of no antiquity Thirdly it is obscure Fourthly ambiguous c. Bellarmine ads more to these of which ye may read in him They conclude that the voice of the Church is the principall and proper voice of the holy Ghost as he is the Iudge of controuersies Their proofe is this The scripture is written in the heart of the Church with Gods own finger this is the primary voice of God And whatsoeuer excellency wee doe ascribe to the scripture that they attribute to their owne Church which is nothing els but a den of theeues And that the spirit being this great iudge is not bound to one sort of men as those of the Ecclesiasticall function the Pope and Councels as they speak but doth performe this office without all respect of persons in whom and by whom soeuer it seemeth good vnto himselfe this is manifest first for if the holy Ghost be not the Iudge both of the very context of the scripture whether it be Gods word and of the interpretation of scripture if he be not I say in man himselfe assuredly there can be no faith For the spirit only begetteth faith in mans heart Secondly the holy Ghost executeth his other offices freely in by any man therefore so may he this function of iudging What is meant by iudging in the holy Ghost For I demand what els is it to iudge but to inlighten to teach that the scripture is giuen of God by inspiration and that this is the naturall sense of this scripture Thirdly the same we be taught by our experience for we find it true by experience that he doth freely iudge in and by whom it pleaseth him Testimonies of scripture proue also this assertion 1. Cor. 12. 11 And all these things worketh euen the selfe same spirit distributing to euery man seuerallie as he will And Esay 54. All thy children shall be taught of God Ier. 31. I will write my lawes in their harts The aduersaries impugne this truth of God with some argumēts of their owne of which ye may reade in Bellarmine And these men binde the holy Ghost to the Pope and to councels confirmed by him which point our men impugne also refute with many arguments of which this is one that of their conclusion this must be the consequent that the Pope and his councels must be aboue the scriptures which thing is absurd to be graunted See more arguments of this subiect in their disputations CHAP. XVI Of the eight propertie and the tenth controuersie LASTLY we auouch that the sacred scripture is of highest authority excellency and 10. Propertie dignity on the earth Here againe by this word scripture we vnderstand both the substance of it and the writing And here wee meane it hath such excellency as makes it most worthie of credit and whereby also it gaines authority and estimation to the Church For which cause the Church is called the Pillar and ground of truth 1. Tim. 3. 15. And it hath many other titles which are giuen to it often in the scriptures This is prooued by the former demonstrations as these The scripture is the word of God it is most perspicuous it is most pure and simple c. Ergo. The aduersaries vary in iudgment touching this authority of Scripture For some of them detract from this soueraigne authority of it affirming that of it selfe it is not authentical but takes authoritie and estimation from the Church Of this minde are these Eckius in Enchiridio Pighius in his booke de Hierarchia and one Hermannus an impudent Papist he with a black mouth auoucheth it that the scripture is of no more validity without the testimony of the Church then AEsops Fables c. Others more late writers and more subtile say that the scripture hath authoritie in and by it selfe and is authentical but not to vs before the church approue it and ascertain it to be so Of this iudgmēt be these Bellarmine Coclaeus Canus Stapleton Canisius c. They which speake thus that the written word of God is not authenticall to vs before the iudgment of the Church be manifested these men I say haue this meaning that we bee not bound to beleeue that the Scriptures bee authenticall before the iudgment of the Church be past of it and that we sinne not at all if wee beleeue them not before the definitiue sentence of the Church But we hold this to be false also to say that the scripture is not to vs authenticall without the authority of the Church For it is the holy Ghost that teacheth euery man to know beleeue that the scripture is authenticall and hath soueraigne authority in it selfe And this he teacheth not by any externall meane How the holy Ghost teacheth vs what authority the scripture hath first but by the very sacred scripture by which alone he properly breeds faith in our hearts to beleeue and apprehend this truth of God And so we resting on this illumination of the holy ghost teaching vs by the scripture that this is the excellencie and authority of the scripture doe beleeue this to be so albeit the whole world did oppose it selfe against vs. And thus farre of the more essentiall questions concerning scripture CHAP. XVII Questions more accidentall concerning the holy Scripture and first of the bookes wherein the same is contained THE first question is concerning the books of holy scripture These bookes are commonly called for the excellency of them The Bible The Bible as it is commonly receiued and caried in hands containes in it two sorts of books the first is of books Canonicall and the second is Apocryphal Regular or Canonicall bookes are such as giue rule and direction touching faith and manners The bookes of Moses are the first Canon or president sent from God First Canon which may not be iudged or tryed by any other externall Canon whatsoeuer For there was no booke extant before the books of Moses The authoritie of the writer so holy and the euidence of the spirit so powerfull and the holinesse of these books to passe by other arguments so great hath gained these books this high estimation and authority in the Church The books of the Prophets make vp the second Canon which bee adiudged canonicall Second Canon by that externall Canon of the Mosaicall books by which they were examined Next they were and are discerned of such as be taught of God inwardly by the holy Ghost by the great euidence of Gods spirit which is manifested in them both in words and matter The third Third Canon Canon are the Apostolical books of the New Testament which are adiudged and approoued as Canonicall partly by the Canonicall books of Moses partly by the