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wicked_a as_o against_o his_o own_o knowledge_n he_o will_v avouch_v that_o for_o true_a which_o be_v check_v even_o by_o his_o own_o brethren_n and_o convince_v by_o common_a sense_n and_o experience_n to_o be_v most_o false_a to_o wit_n that_o the_o protestant_n and_o the_o puritan_n in_o england_n differ_v only_o in_o maâ—ters_n cerimoniall_a and_o agree_v in_o all_o essential_a and_o substantial_a point_n concern_v religion_n in_o which_o this_o prelate_n be_v very_o cathegoricall_a for_o ignorance_n as_o himself_o elsewhere_o tell_v we_o out_o of_o father_n and_o philosopher_n 2â—2_n though_o he_o cite_v no_o place_n or_o sentence_n be_v the_o mother_n of_o audacious_a assertion_n and_o undertake_n and_o write_v thus_o 120._o fain_o they_o woulâ—_n possess_v the_o world_n that_o we_o be_v at_o jar_n among_o ourselves_o about_o our_o religion_n whereas_o the_o quarrel_n though_o it_o be_v indeed_o unkind_a yet_o be_v it_o not_o in_o this_o kind_a sauâ—_n only_o for_o cerimonye_n 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speak_v of_o our_o work_n as_o they_o be_v do_v by_o a_o pagan_a without_o grace_n or_o any_o other_o supernatural_a help_n and_o last_o of_o all_o for_o malicious_o transpose_v the_o word_n any_o to_o make_v it_o signify_v that_o which_o the_o father_n never_o dream_v of_o thereby_o to_o make_v he_o contrary_a to_o bâ—llarmine_n and_o contradictory_n to_o himself_o for_o he_o make_v he_o to_o say_v that_o a_o man_n may_v place_v any_o confidence_n in_o his_o own_o merit_n so_o he_o beware_v of_o pridâ—_n which_o be_v a_o notorious_a untruth_n but_o i_o will_v not_o as_o i_o say_v further_o stand_v to_o refel_v these_o falshoode_n for_o that_o the_o father_n himself_o have_v very_o learned_o perform_v the_o same_o and_o m._n barlow_n will_v never_o be_v able_a with_o any_o show_n of_o truth_n oâ—_n learning_n to_o make_v any_o reply_n thereunto_o 63._o and_o whereas_o for_o the_o last_o upshot_n of_o this_o his_o dispute_n he_o marshal_v forth_o in_o one_o rank_n together_o a_o heap_n 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ignorance_n &_o will_v make_v the_o cardinal_n to_o contradict_v himself_o say_v in_o his_o behalf_n that_o good_a work_n of_o their_o own_o nature_n raise_v up_o our_o conâ—idence_n towards_o god_n and_o yet_o a_o man_n be_v uncertain_a whether_o they_o be_v good_a or_o no._n the_o first_o part_n i_o have_v show_v to_o be_v false_a if_o by_o their_o own_o nature_n he_o understand_v they_o as_o do_v without_o god_n grace_n inherent_a in_o thâ—_n doer_n the_o second_o be_v true_a if_o m._n barlow_n understand_v it_o for_o the_o word_n uncertain_a exclude_v not_o all_o certainty_n as_o before_o i_o note_v but_o the_o certainty_n of_o faith_n second_o he_o say_v man_n must_v be_v acertayn_v that_o the_o work_v he_o â—â—th_v be_v true_o good_a 265._o or_o else_o he_o may_v not_o trust_v in_o they_o and_o yet_o no_o man_n can_v assure_v himself_o that_o they_o be_v so_o unless_o he_o have_v a_o revelation_n say_v the_o cardinal_n than_o which_o whâ—t_o be_v more_o uncertain_a saepe_fw-la 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&_o reform_v their_o conscience_n that_o be_v erroneous_a yet_o so_o long_o as_o that_o repugnancy_n endure_v they_o shall_v sin_v in_o do_v contrary_a to_o the_o dictamen_fw-la thereof_o obedience_n and_o as_o for_o the_o article_n in_o the_o oath_n that_o be_v contrary_a to_o englisâ—_n catholic_n conscience_n and_o to_o their_o religion_n they_o be_v so_o many_o as_o do_v any_o way_n impeach_v or_o prejudice_n their_o religion_n which_o be_v the_o most_o part_n in_o the_o oath_n as_o be_v know_v neither_o must_n m._n barlow_n run_v to_o this_o ordinary_a shift_n and_o say_v as_o he_o be_v wont_a that_o their_o conscience_n be_v not_o well_o cleansedâ—_n and_o that_o their_o religion_n be_v not_o true_a christian_a religion_n &_o therefore_o they_o ought_v not_o to_o have_v scruple_n in_o sweatingâ—_n for_o that_o now_o it_o have_v be_v show_v that_o it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o bind_v they_o from_o swear_v that_o their_o conscyence_n do_v tell_v they_o the_o contrary_a which_o 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