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A34439 Motives of conversion to the Catholick faith, as it is professed in the reformed Church of England by Neal Carolan ... Carolan, Neal. 1688 (1688) Wing C605; ESTC R15923 53,424 72

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that_o the_o give_v of_o the_o cup_n to_o the_o people_n be_v a_o indifferent_a thing_n and_o may_v be_v do_v or_o omit_v as_o the_o ruler_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v judge_v convenient_a some_o of_o they_o proceed_v far_o and_o pretend_v that_o receive_v the_o bread_n alone_o be_v less_o or_o more_o the_o practice_n of_o all_o age_n since_o the_o begin_n of_o christianity_n many_o conjecture_n and_o surmise_n have_v be_v invent_v by_o bellarmin_n and_o other_o in_o order_n to_o make_v this_o seem_v likely_a and_o yet_o all_o in_o vain_a for_o many_o learned_a man_n of_o the_o roman_n catholic_n party_n be_v ashamed_a of_o this_o pretence_n and_o ingenuous_o confess_v that_o there_o never_o be_v any_o such_o practice_n approve_v among_o the_o ancient_n alphonsus_n à_fw-fr castro_n assert_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o the_o people_n communicate_v in_o both_o kind_n have_v these_o word_n say_v he_o for_o i_o have_v learn_v from_o the_o write_n of_o many_o holy_a man_n 13._o nam_fw-la olim_fw-la per_fw-la multa_fw-la saecula_fw-la sic_fw-la apud_fw-la omnes_fw-la catholicos_fw-la usurpatum_fw-la esse_fw-la ex_fw-la multorum_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la scriptis_fw-la didicimus_fw-la alphons_n titul_a eucharist_n haeres_fw-la 13._o that_o ancient_o for_o many_o age_n it_o be_v the_o custom_n for_o all_o catholic_n to_o communicate_v so_o lindanus_n a_o great_a maintainer_n of_o popery_n affirm_v that_o both_o kind_n be_v general_o receive_v in_o the_o eucharist_n even_o till_o the_o year_n 1260._o panopliae_fw-la lib._n 4._o c._n 56._o in_o these_o word_n i_o now_o omit_v other_o thing_n say_v he_o which_o make_v for_o this_o purpose_n to_o wit_n degeneravit_fw-la omitto_fw-la nunc_fw-la alia_fw-la quae_fw-la huc_fw-la faciunt_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o aetatem_fw-la usque_fw-la divi_z thomae_fw-la 1._o ann_n domini_fw-la 1260._o utriusque_fw-la speciei_fw-la communio_fw-la ferè_fw-la ubique_fw-la fuerir_fw-fr laicis_fw-la administrata_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la ubique_fw-la 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not_o participate_v of_o the_o sacrament_n under_o one_o kind_n there_o be_v two_o remarkable_a place_n in_o cardinal_n bona_fw-la lib._n 2_o c._n 18._o de_fw-la rebus_fw-la liturgicis_fw-la to_o prove_v that_o the_o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n be_v not_o practise_v till_o the_o year_n 1200._o and_o that_o all_o the_o precedent_a age_n have_v the_o contrary_a practice_n and_o give_v both_o kind_n to_o the_o people_n public_o he_o pretend_v beside_o but_o indeed_o without_o any_o considerable_a ground_n that_o the_o half_a communion_n be_v private_o practise_v in_o those_o age_n these_o be_v his_o say_n it_o be_v certain_a say_v he_o that_o all_o person_n in_o all_o place_n participabant_fw-la certum_fw-la est_fw-la quip_n omnes_fw-la passim_fw-la clericos_fw-la &_o laicos_fw-la viros_fw-la &_o mulieres_fw-la sub_fw-la utraque_fw-la specie_fw-la sacra_fw-la mysteria_fw-la antiquitùs_fw-la sumpsisse_fw-la cum_fw-la solemni_fw-la eorum_fw-la celebrationi_fw-la aderant_fw-la &_o 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the_o manichee_n will_v have_v go_v undiscovered_a hence_o i_o can_v not_o but_o conclude_v that_o leo_n and_o all_o orthodox_n believer_n of_o his_o time_n be_v of_o the_o same_o judgement_n in_o this_o point_n with_o the_o reform_a church_n of_o england_n since_o that_o reverend_a bishop_n look_v upon_o receive_v the_o cup_n as_o a_o certain_a sign_n of_o a_o orthodox_n and_o true_a christian_a and_o esteem_v the_o contrary_a practice_n a_o infallible_a mark_n of_o a_o detestable_a and_o sacrilegious_a heretic_n and_o i_o be_o exceed_o confirm_v in_o this_o opinion_n because_o i_o find_v that_o pope_n gelasius_n one_o who_o sit_v in_o the_o episcopal_a chair_n of_o rome_n about_o thirty_o year_n after_o leo_n death_n have_v in_o a_o most_o public_a solemn_a and_o authentic_a manner_n declare_v the_o necessity_n of_o receive_v in_o both_o kind_n and_o the_o contrary_a practice_n to_o be_v sacrilegious_a for_o he_o make_v a_o canon_n against_o the_o corrupt_a custom_n of_o receive_v in_o one_o kind_n which_o some_o superstitious_a people_n be_v then_o endeavour_v to_o introduce_v and_o this_o very_a canon_n be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o gratian'ss_n body_n of_o the_o canon_n law._n de_fw-fr consecrat_fw-mi do_v 2._o c._n 12._o it_o be_v in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o council_n it_o be_v also_o in_o the_o annal_n of_o cardinal_n baronius_n ad_fw-la annum_fw-la 496._o but_o in_o short_a there_o be_v no_o doubt_n of_o its_o be_v the_o true_a and_o genuine_a canon_n of_o gelasius_n and_o consequent_o no_o man_n can_v rational_o deny_v this_o to_o be_v a_o very_a convince_a proof_n that_o the_o judgement_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o ancient_a bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v direct_o contrary_a to_o that_o of_o the_o modern_a bishop_n and_o church_n thereof_o i_o shall_v here_o produce_v the_o word_n of_o the_o canon_n itself_o that_o the_o impartial_a reader_n may_v judge_v whether_o i_o have_v not_o reason_n to_o conclude_v that_o the_o present_a roman_a church_n be_v guilty_a of_o novelty_n and_o that_o the_o reform_a church_n of_o england_n do_v punctual_o follow_v the_o sense_n of_o antiquity_n but_o we_o find_v say_v he_o that_o some_o who_o have_v receive_v the_o portion_n of_o the_o holy_a body_n do_v abstain_v from_o the_o cup_n of_o the_o blood._n 12._o comperimus_fw-la autem_fw-la quod_fw-la quidam-sumpta_a tantummodo_fw-la corpus_fw-la sacri_fw-la portione_fw-la â_fw-la calais_n cruoris_fw-la abstineant_fw-la qui_fw-la proculdubio_fw-la quoniam_fw-la nescio_fw-la qua_fw-la superstitione_n docentur_fw-la obstringi_fw-la aut_fw-la integra_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la percipiant_fw-la aut_fw-la ab_fw-la integris_fw-la arceautur_fw-la quia_fw-la divisio_fw-la unius_fw-la ejusdemque_fw-la mysterii_fw-la sine_fw-la grandi_fw-la sacrilegio_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la provenire_fw-la gratian._n de_fw-fr consecrat_fw-mi do_v 2._o c._n 12._o let_v these_o man_n without_o all_o controversy_n because_o they_o be_v inform_v against_o as_o person_n possess_v with_o 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the_o host_n thus_o we_o find_v the_o author_n of_o the_o annotation_n upon_o gratian_n endeavour_v to_o escape_v the_o difficulty_n but_o undoubted_o neither_o the_o protestant_n nor_o any_o rational_a man_n have_v any_o reason_n to_o regard_v this_o vain_a and_o idle_a supposition_n especial_o when_o so_o eminent_a a_o man_n as_o cardinal_z baronius_n have_v assure_v we_o that_o this_o be_v a_o senseless_a and_o foolish_a solution_n he_o call_v it_o frigidam_fw-la solutionem_fw-la ad_fw-la annum_fw-la 496_o num_fw-la 20._o &_o 21._o and_o say_v he_o reject_v it_o and_o have_v no_o need_n of_o such_o foolery_n but_o there_o be_v another_o evasion_n which_o be_v common_o make_v use_n of_o by_o the_o romanist_n in_o order_n to_o elude_v the_o force_n of_o this_o canon_n and_o because_o this_o evasion_n be_v most_o in_o vogue_n among_o they_o therefore_o particular_o i_o do_v consider_v it_o many_o of_o their_o controvertist_n do_v pretend_v that_o the_o ancient_a decree_n of_o 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