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A66174 A discourse of the Holy Eucharist, in the two great points of the real presence and the adoration of the Host in answer to the two discourses lately printed at Oxford on this subject : to which is prefixed a large historical preface relating to the same argument. Wake, William, 1657-1737. 1687 (1687) Wing W240; ESTC R4490 116,895 178

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to_o such_o prejudices_fw-la as_o neither_o sense_n nor_o reason_n nor_o the_o word_n of_o god_n nox_fw-la the_o authority_n of_o the_o best_a and_o pure_a age_n of_o the_o church_n be_v able_a to_o overcome_v a_o table_n of_o the_o principal_a matter_n contain_v in_o this_o treatise_n preface_n the_o occasion_n of_o this_o discourse_n page_z i_z the_o method_n make_v use_v of_o for_o the_o explain_v the_o nature_n of_o this_o holy_a eucharist_n page_n four_o no_o proof_n of_o transubstantiation_n in_o holy_a scripture_n page_n five_o the_o rise_n and_o establishment_n of_o it_o page_n vi_o seven_o several_a of_o their_o great_a man_n before_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n believe_v it_o not_o page_n seven_o viij_o and_o many_o have_v even_o since_o continue_v to_o disbelieve_v it_o page_z x_o so_o picherellus_n page_n x_o cardinal_n du_fw-fr perron_n page_n xi_o f._n barnes_n page_n twelve_o mounseur_fw-fr de_fw-fr marca_n page_n xiii_o f._n sirmond_n page_n xv_o monsieur_n l_o page_n xvii_o mons_fw-la de_fw-fr marolles_n page_z ib._n other_o page_n xxiv_o etc._n etc._n consequence_n draw_v from_o these_o example_n i._o of_o the_o danger_n of_o the_o papist_n especial_o upon_o their_o own_o principle_n page_n xxvii_o with_o reference_n to_o this_o sacrament_n and_o therein_o to_o the_o 1._o consecration_n page_n xxvii_o 2._o adoration_n page_z ib._n 3._o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n page_n xxix_o 4._o mass_n page_n thirty_o with_o reference_n to_o their_o entire_a priesthood_n page_n xxxi_o ii_o against_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n page_n xxxiii_o iii_o against_o its_o authority_n page_n xxxiv_o iu_o as_o to_o the_o reasonableness_n of_o our_o reformation_n page_n xxxvi_o v._n that_o these_o thing_n ought_v to_o dispose_v those_o of_o that_o communion_n to_o a_o impartial_a search_n into_o the_o ground_n of_o their_o belief_n as_o to_o this_o matter_n page_n xxxvii_o part_n i._n the_o introduction_n of_o the_o nature_n of_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n in_o the_o general_n pag._n 1_o christ_n design_n in_o the_o institution_n of_o it_o pag._n 2_o that_o he_o establish_v it_o upon_o the_o ceremony_n of_o the_o jewish_a passover_n pag._n 3_o 4_o 5_o 6_o the_o method_n from_o hence_o take_v to_o explain_v the_o nature_n of_o it_o pag._n 6_o 7_o chap._n i._o of_o transubstantiation_n or_o the_o real_a presence_n establish_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n pag._n 8_o what_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o this_o point_n ib._n this_o show_v upon_o the_o principle_n before_o lay_v down_o to_o be_v repugnant_a 1._o to_o the_o design_n and_o nature_n of_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n pag._n 12_o 2._o to_o the_o expression_n itself_o this_o be_v my_o body_n pag._n 14_o the_o papist_n themselves_o sensible_a of_o it_o pag._n 18_o that_o the_o six_o of_o s._n john_n do_v not_o at_o all_o favour_n they_o pag._n 20_o this_o doctrine_n show_v further_o to_o be_v repugnant_a i._o to_o the_o best_a and_o pure_a tradition_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 24_o ii_o to_o the_o right_a reason_n pag._n 32_o iii_o to_o the_o common_a sense_n of_o all_o mankind_n pag._n 36_o conclusion_n of_o this_o point_n and_o transition_n to_o the_o next_o pag._n 37_o chap._n ii_o of_o the_o real_a presence_n acknowledge_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 41_o the_o notion_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n false_o impute_v by_o a_o late_a author_n to_o our_o church_n 42_o in_o answer_n to_o this_o four_o thing_n propose_v to_o be_v consider_v i._n what_o be_v the_o true_a notion_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n as_o acknowledge_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n pag._n 43_o ii_o that_o this_o notion_n have_v be_v constant_o maintain_v by_o our_o most_o learned_a and_o orthodox_n divine_v pag._n 46_o so_o those_o abroad_o calvin_n pag._n 47_o beza_n pag._n 49_o martyr_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 51_o for_o our_o own_o divine_n consider_v the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o twenty_o nine_o article_n in_o k._n edw._n vi_o time_n pag._n 52_o archbishop_z cranmer_z pag._n 53_o bishop_n ridley_n pag._n 55_o that_o the_o same_o contain_v to_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o our_o divine_n after_o pag._n 56_o show_v 1._o from_o the_o history_n of_o the_o convocation_n proceed_v as_o to_o this_o point_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o q._n eliz._n reign_n ib._n 2._o from_o the_o testimony_n of_o our_o divine_n bp._n jewel_n pag._n 59_o mr._n hooker_n pag._n 60_o bp._n andrews_n pag._n 62_o a._n b._n of_o spalatto_n pag._n 64_o bp._n montague_n ib._n bp._n taylour_n pag._n 66_o mr._n torndyke_n pag._n 69_o who_o testimony_n be_v cite_v at_o large_a of_o 1._o reformatio_fw-la legum_n ecclesiasticarum_fw-la 2._o bp._n morton_n 3._o a._n b._n usher_n 4._o bp._n cousin_n 5._o dr._n jo._n white_a 6._o dr._n fr._n white_a 7._o dr._n jackson_n 8._o dr._n hammond_n who_o authority_n be_v refer_v to_o pag._n 71_o 72_o iii_o that_o the_o alteration_n which_o have_v be_v make_v in_o our_o rubric_n be_v not_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o our_o divine_n change_v their_o opinion_n as_o be_v vain_o and_o false_o suggest_v pag._n 72_o iu._n that_o the_o reason_n mention_v in_o our_o rubric_n concern_v the_o impossibility_n of_o christ_n natural_a body_n exist_v in_o several_a place_n at_o the_o same_o time_n be_v no_o way_n invalidate_v by_o any_o of_o this_o author_n exception_n against_o it_o pag._n 77_o 1._o not_o by_o his_o first_o observation_n ib._n 2._o nor_o by_o his_o second_o pag._n 79_o 3._o nor_o by_o his_o three_o pag._n 80_o 4._o nor_o by_o his_o four_o pag._n 81_o the_o objection_n of_o this_o opinion_n be_v downright_a zuinglianism_n answer_v pag._n 82_o and_o the_o whole_a conclude_v pag._n 84_o part_n ii_o chap._n iii_o of_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o host_n as_o prescribe_v and_o practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n two_o thing_n propose_v to_o be_v consider_v i._n what_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o
in_o the_o same_o design_n to_o worship_n god_n as_o the_o paschal_n lamb_n of_o one_o family_n be_v not_o the_o lamb_n of_o another_o although_o both_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o be_v to_o accomplish_v the_o same_o mystery_n thus_o for_o instance_n on_o corpus_n christi-day_n the_o sacrament_n of_o s._n german_a d'_fw-fr auxerrois_fw-fr where_o the_o perpetual_a vicar_n consecrate_v the_o host_n and_o mounseur_fw-fr the_o dean_n the_o first_o curé_n carry_v it_o the_o procession_n under_o a_o rich_a canopy_n crown_v with_o flower_n this_o host_n be_v not_o the_o same_o with_o that_o of_o s._n paul_n which_o be_v carry_v after_o another_o manner_n viz._n the_o image_n of_o that_o apostle_n make_v of_o silver_n gilt_n fall_v from_o his_o horse_n at_o his_o conversion_n under_o the_o sacrament_n of_o jesus_n christ_n hang_v up_o in_o ray_n of_o gold_n and_o carry_v under_o the_o cover_n of_o another_o stately_a canopy_n and_o so_o of_o all_o the_o other_o church_n as_o for_o the_o 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a_o most_o horrible_a thought_n and_o of_o which_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o open_v our_o mouth_n but_o only_o to_o detest_v so_o dreadful_a a_o profanation_n the_o same_o must_v be_v say_v of_o those_o host_n which_o have_v be_v cast_v up_o as_o soon_o as_o receive_v whether_o by_o sick_a person_n or_o sometime_o by_o debauch_a priest_n disorder_v with_o the_o last_o night_n intemperance_n both_o which_o have_v sometime_o happen_v not_o to_o say_v any_o thing_n of_o those_o other_o terrible_a inconvenience_n remark_v in_o the_o caution_n concern_v the_o mass_n all_o which_o show_v that_o man_n have_v carry_v thing_n too_o far_o without_o any_o warrant_n from_o the_o word_n of_o god._n it_o be_v not_o therefore_o so_o easy_a as_o some_o imagine_v to_o maintain_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n out_o of_o the_o use_n against_o the_o opinion_n of_o any_o opposer_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n the_o truth_n be_v terrible_o obscure_v and_o few_o give_v themselves_o the_o trouble_n to_o clear_v it_o on_o the_o contrary_a it_o seem_v that_o among_o the_o many_o writer_n of_o the_o age_n there_o be_v some_o who_o make_v it_o their_o whole_a business_n to_o hide_v it_o and_o to_o keep_v themselves_o from_o find_v it_o out_o as_o if_o they_o desire_v never_o to_o be_v wise_a than_o they_o be_v the_o vanity_n of_o lie_v flatter_v they_o but_o too_o much_o in_o all_o the_o humane_a passion_n which_o sway_v they_o there_o be_v nevertheless_o some_o faithful_a disciple_n and_o apostolic_a soul_n who_o be_v exempt_v to_o obey_v god_n by_o his_o grace_n and_o to_o give_v glory_n to_o his_o name_n it_o be_v not_o long_o before_o his_o departure_n that_o david_n say_v every_o man_n be_v a_o liar_n psal_n 115.2_o and_o s._n paul_n to_o the_o roman_n 3.4_o to_o show_v that_o god_n only_o be_v true_a add_v immediate_o after_o from_o psalm_n 4._o psalm_n li._n 4._o 50.6_o thou_o may_v be_v justify_v when_o thou_o speak_v and_o be_v clear_a when_o thou_o judge_v such_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o mounseur_fw-fr de_fw-fr marolles_n as_o to_o this_o point_n i_o shall_v too_o much_o trespass_n upon_o the_o reader_n be_v patience_n to_o insist_v thus_o particular_o upon_o other_o of_o lesser_a note_n the_o author_n of_o the_o late_a historical_a treatise_n of_o transubstantiation_n have_v full_o show_v not_o only_o his_o own_o opinion_n but_o the_o tradition_n of_o all_o the_o age_n of_o the_o church_n against_o it_o and_o though_o i_o dare_v not_o say_v the_o same_o of_o whoever_o he_o be_v that_o set_v forth_o the_o 102._o the_o il_fw-fr nous_fw-fr suffit_fw-fr que_fw-fr j.c._n qui_fw-fr est_fw-fr la_fw-fr verité_fw-fr meme_fw-fr nous_fw-fr ait_fw-fr assuré_fw-fr que_fw-fr ce_fw-fr sacrament_n est_fw-fr veritablement_n fon_n corpse_n &_o qu'il_fw-fr ait_fw-fr ordonne_v the_o manger_n sa_fw-fr chair_n &_o boire_fw-fr son_fw-fr sang_fw-fr car_fw-fr il_fw-fr faut_fw-fr absolument_fw-fr qu'il_fw-fr y_fw-fr soit_fw-fr puis_fw-fr q'il_fw-fr il_fw-fr nous_fw-fr ordonne_v de_fw-fr l'y_fw-fr manger_n sans_o s'embarasser_n l'esprit_fw-fr de_fw-fr quelle_fw-fr maniere_n &_o comment_n cela_fw-fr se_fw-fr fait_fw-fr 2._o part_n p._n 102._o moyens_fw-fr sur_n &_o honneste_n etc._n etc._n that_o he_o do_v not_o believe_v transubstantiation_n himself_o yet_o this_o be_v clear_a that_o he_o do_v not_o desire_v any_o one_o shall_v be_v force_v to_o believe_v it_o or_o indeed_o be_v encourage_v to_o search_v too_o nice_o into_o the_o manner_n how_o christ_n be_v present_a and_o eat_v in_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n whether_o mounseur_fw-fr de_fw-fr meaux_n believe_v this_o doctrine_n or_o not_o his_o authority_n be_v become_v of_o so_o little_a importance_n that_o i_o do_v not_o think_v it_o worth_a the_o while_n to_o examine_v yet_o the_o first_o french_a transubstantiation_n french_a advertissement_fw-fr n._n 14._o p._n 22._o mr._n b._n speak_v of_o that_o edition_n il_fw-fr n'y_fw-fr avoit_fw-fr en_fw-fr aucun_fw-fr lieu_fw-fr de_fw-fr l'article_n ni_fw-fr le_fw-fr term_n de_fw-fr transubstantiation_n ni_fw-fr cette_fw-fr proposition_n que_fw-fr le_fw-fr pain_n &_o le_fw-fr vin_fw-fr sont_fw-fr changez_fw-fr au_fw-fr corpse_n &_o au_fw-fr sang_fw-fr de_fw-fr j.c._n dans_fw-fr la_fw-fr derniere_n edition_n apres_fw-fr ces_fw-fr mots_fw-fr le_fw-fr propre_fw-fr corpse_n &_o le_fw-fr prope_a ●ing_fw-mi de_fw-fr j.c._n il_fw-fr a_fw-fr ajoute_fw-fr ausquelles_fw-fr le_fw-fr pain_n &_o le_fw-fr vin_fw-fr sont_fw-fr changez_fw-fr cest_fw-fr ce_fw-fr qu'on_n appelle_fw-fr transubstantiation_n answer_v to_o his_o exposition_n observe_v that_o in_o the_o suppress_v edition_n of_o it_o he_o have_v not_o at_o all_o mention_v that_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v turn_v into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n those_o word_n in_o the_o close_a of_o that_o paragraph_n which_o we_o now_o read_v viz._n that_o the_o bread_n and_o the_o wine_n be_v change_v into_o the_o proper_a body_n and_o proper_a blood_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o that_o 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appearance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v not_o so_o present_a in_o which_o word_n if_o his_o meaning_n be_v to_o exclude_v total_o the_o manner_n how_o jesus_n christ_n become_v present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n as_o his_o expression_n be_v from_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o faith_n it_o may_v well_o have_v be_v range_v among_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o new_a popery_n 1686._o but_o if_o he_o design_v not_o to_o exclude_v the_o manner_n of_o christ_n presence_n but_o only_o the_o mode_n of_o the_o conversion_n as_o he_o seem_v by_o some_o other_o of_o his_o word_n to_o insinuate_v viz._n whether_o it_o be_v by_o adduction_n etc._n etc._n from_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o faith_n he_o ought_v not_o then_o to_o have_v deny_v the_o manner_n of_o christ_n presence_n in_o the_o eucharist_n which_o their_o church_n have_v absolute_o define_v to_o be_v by_o that_o wonderful_a and_o singular_a conversion_n so_o apt_o call_v transubstantiation_n but_o more_o precise_o to_o have_v explain_v his_o school-nicety_n and_o
place_n at_o once_o till_o the_o papist_n can_v demonstrate_v the_o possibility_n thereof_o by_o testimony_n of_o holy_a scripture_n or_o the_o ancient_a tradition_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n or_o by_o apparent_a reason_n we_o need_v not_o suppose_v that_o they_o say_v this_o doubt_v whether_o it_o imply_v a_o contradiction_n but_o because_o the_o certainty_n of_o the_o contradiction_n secure_v they_o against_o the_o possibility_n of_o any_o such_o proof_n 1624._o proof_n this_o be_v evident_a in_o b._n taylor_n who_o think_v that_o god_n can_v not_o do_v this_o because_o it_o imply_v a_o contradiction_n real_a presence_n presence_n xi_o n._n 1._o p._n 230._o and_o ibid._n n._n 27._o he_o say_v it_o be_v utter_o impossible_a so_o also_o dr._n white_n profess_v that_o according_a to_o the_o order_n which_o god_n have_v fix_v by_o his_o word_n and_o will_n this_o can_v be_v do_v confer_v pag._n 446_o 447._o and_o before_o pag._n 181._o to_o this_o objection_n that_o though_o in_o nature_n it_o be_v impossible_a for_o one_o and_o the_o same_o body_n to_o be_v in_o many_o place_n at_o once_o yet_o because_o god_n be_v omnipotent_a he_o be_v able_a to_o effect_v it_o we_o answer_v say_v he_o it_o impli_v a_o contradiction_n that_o god_n shall_v destroy_v the_o nature_n of_o a_o thing_n the_o nature_n of_o the_o same_o thing_n remain_v safe_a see_v 〈◊〉_d p._n 180_o 181._o white_a be_v work_n lond._n 1624._o and_o now_o i_o know_v but_o one_o objection_n more_o that_o be_v or_o can_v be_v offer_v against_o what_o i_o have_v say_v and_o which_o have_v answer_v i_o shall_v close_v this_o point_n for_o if_o this_o be_v all_o the_o church_n of_o england_n understand_v when_o it_o speak_v of_o a_o real_a presence_n viz._n a_o real_a sacramental_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o holy_a sign_n and_o a_o real_a spiritual_a presence_n in_o the_o inward_a communion_n of_o they_o to_o the_o soul_n of_o every_o worthy_a receiver_n will_v not_o this_o precipitate_v we_o into_o downright_a etc._n downright_a see_v 1_o treatise_n pag._n 23._o 23._o xxxii_o p._n 24._o 24._o xxxii_o p._n 25._o 25._o xxxvi_o xxxvii_o etc._n etc._n zuinglianism_n and_o render_v we_o after_o all_o our_o pretence_n as_o very_a sacramentary_n as_o they_o indeed_o i_o be_o not_o able_a direct_o to_o say_v whether_o it_o will_v or_o no_o because_o i_o find_v the_o opinion_n of_o zuinglius_fw-la very_o various_o represent_v as_o to_o this_o matter_n but_o yet_o first_o if_o by_o zuinglianism_n he_o mean_v that_o which_o be_v more_o proper_o 701._o proper_o smalcius_n de_fw-fr coen_n dom._n p._n 347._o id_fw-la disp_n 9_o de_fw-fr hypocr_n p._n 289._o volkelius_fw-la lib._n four_o cap._n 12._o p._n 304_o 319_o etc._n etc._n socinus_n in_o paraenesi_fw-la c._n four_o sclichtingius_fw-la disp_n de_fw-fr coeu_fw-fr dom._n p._n 701._o socinianism_n viz._n a_o mere_a commemoration_n of_o christ_n death_n and_o a_o thanksgiving_n to_o god_n for_o it_o it_o be_v evident_a it_o do_v not_o forasmuch_o as_o we_o positive_o confess_v that_o in_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n there_o be_v a_o real_a and_o spiritual_a grace_n communicate_v to_o we_o even_o all_o the_o benefit_n of_o that_o death_n and_o passion_n which_o we_o there_o set_v forth_o and_o this_o or_o somewhat_o very_a like_o it_o i_o find_v sometime_o to_o have_v be_v maintain_v by_o etc._n by_o zuingl_n see_v de_fw-fr provide_v dei_fw-la cap._n 6_o etc._n etc._n zuinglius_fw-la but_o now_o second_o if_o by_o zuinglianism_n he_o understand_v such_o a_o real_a prefence_n as_o deny_v only_o the_o coexistence_n of_o christ_n natural_a body_n now_o in_o heaven_n at_o the_o same_o time_n in_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n but_o deny_v nothing_o of_o that_o real_a and_o spiritual_a 2._o spiritual_a and_o this_o our_o author_n seem_v to_o insinuate_v see_v the_o place_n above_o cite_v and_o indeed_o other_o have_v allege_v this_o as_o the_o true_a opinion_n of_o zuinglius_fw-la see_v calvin_n tract_n de_fw-fr coen_n dom._n defence_n sacram._n admonit_n ad_fw-la westphal_n &_o passim_fw-la alibi_fw-la vid._n insuper_fw-la libr._n de_fw-fr orthod_n consens_fw-la c._n 7_o and_o especial_o hospin_n p._n 42_o 55_o 177_o etc._n etc._n hist_o sacr._n pa●●_n 2._o communion_n of_o it_o we_o have_v be_v fore_o mention_v this_o be_v indeed_o our_o doctrine_n nor_o shall_v we_o be_v ashamed_a to_o own_v it_o for_o any_o ill_a name_n he_o be_v able_a to_o put_v upon_o it_o but_o yet_o i_o wonder_v why_o he_o shall_v call_v this_o zuinglianism_n since_o if_o the_o common_a name_n of_o catholic_n or_o christian_a doctrine_n be_v not_o sufficient_a he_o may_v have_v find_v out_o a_o more_o ancient_a abettor_n of_o this_o real_a presence_n than_o zuinglius_fw-la and_o the_o truth_n be_v one_o of_o the_o most_o dangerous_a opposer_n both_o of_o their_o head_n and_o their_o faith_n that_o ever_o be_v i_o mean_v st._n paul_n who_o have_v not_o only_o clear_o express_v himself_o against_o they_o as_o to_o this_o point_n of_o the_o eucharist_n 1_o cor._n x._o 16._o but_o in_o most_o of_o their_o other_o error_n leave_v such_o pernicious_a say_n to_o the_o world_n as_o all_o their_o authority_n and_o infallibility_n let_v i_o add_v nor_o all_o their_o anathema_n neither_o will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o overcome_v i_o shall_v close_v up_o this_o discourse_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n acknowledge_v by_o we_o in_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n with_o a_o plain_a familiar_a example_n and_o which_o may_v serve_v at_o once_o both_o to_o illustrate_v and_o confirm_v the_o propriety_n of_o it_o a_o father_n make_v his_o last_o will_n and_o by_o it_o bequeath_v his_o estate_n and_o all_o the_o profit_n of_o it_o to_o his_o child_n 57_o vid._n cousin_n hist_o transubstantionis_fw-la cap._n v._o v._o 5._o p._n 57_o he_o deliver_v it_o into_o the_o hand_n of_o his_o son_n and_o bid_v he_o take_v there_o his_o house_n and_o land_n which_o by_o this_o his_o last_o will_v he_o deliver_v to_o he_o the_o son_n in_o this_o case_n receive_v nothing_o but_o a_o roll_n of_o parchment_n with_o a_o seal_n tie_v to_o it_o from_o his_o father_n but_o yet_o by_o virtue_n of_o this_o parchment_n he_o be_v entitle_v to_o his_o estate_n perform_v the_o condition_n of_o his_o will_n and_o to_o all_o the_o benefit_n and_o advantage_n of_o it_o and_o in_o that_o deed_n he_o true_o and_o effectual_o receive_v the_o very_a house_n and_o land_n that_o be_v thereby_o convey_v to_o he_o our_o saviour_n christ_n in_o like_a manner_n be_v now_o about_o to_o leave_v the_o world_n give_v this_o holy_a sacrament_n as_o his_o final_a bequest_n to_o we_o in_o it_o he_o convey_v to_o we_o a_o right_a to_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n and_o to_o all_o the_o spiritual_a blessing_n and_o grace_n that_o proceed_v from_o they_o so_o that_o as_o often_o as_o we_o receive_v this_o holy_a eucharist_n as_o we_o ought_v to_o do_v we_o receive_v indeed_o nothing_o but_o a_o little_a bread_n and_o wine_n into_o our_o hand_n but_o by_o the_o blessing_n and_o promise_n of_o christ_n we_o by_o that_o bread_n and_o wine_n as_o real_o and_o true_o become_v partaker_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n as_o the_o son_n by_o the_o will_n of_o his_o father_n be_v make_v inheritor_n of_o his_o estate_n nor_o be_v it_o any_o more_o necessary_a for_o this_o that_o christ_n body_n shall_v come_v down_o from_o heaven_n or_o the_o outward_a element_n which_o we_o receive_v be_v substantial_o turn_v into_o it_o than_o it_o be_v necessary_a in_o that_o other_o case_n that_o the_o very_a house_n and_o land_n shall_v be_v give_v into_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o son_n to_o make_v a_o real_a delivery_n or_o conveyance_n of_o they_o or_o the_o will_n of_o the_o father_n be_v true_o and_o proper_o change_v into_o the_o very_a nature_n and_o substance_n of_o they_o part_n ii_o chapter_n iii_o of_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o host_n as_o prescribe_v and_o practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n we_o be_v now_o arrive_v at_o the_o last_o part_n of_o this_o discourse_n in_o which_o i_o must_v thus_o far_o change_v the_o method_n i_o pursue_v in_o the_o other_o subject_n as_o to_o consider_v first_o what_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o to_o this_o point_n be_v and_o what_o our_o adversary_n exception_n against_o it_o be_v second_o what_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o whether_o what_o this_o author_n have_v say_v in_o favour_n of_o it_o may_v be_v sufficient_a to_o warrant_v their_o practice_n as_o to_o this_o matter_n for_o the_o former_a of_o these_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n we_o shall_v need_v go_v no_o far_o than_o the_o rubric_n we_o have_v beforementioned_a wherein_o it_o be_v express_o declare_v with_o reference_n to_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n communion_n rubr._n at_o the_o end_n of_o the_o
for_o their_o adoration_n whereby_o they_o become_v absolve_v by_o other_o protestant_n from_o idolatry_n in_o adore_v our_o lord_n as_o present_v there_o i_o see_v not_o why_o the_o ground_n of_o roman_a catholic_n shall_v be_v any_o whit_n less_o value_v than_o they_o in_o answer_n to_o which_o the_o reader_n may_v please_v to_o remember_v that_o i_o have_v before_o say_v that_o we_o do_v not_o excuse_v those_o lutheran_n who_o do_v this_o so_o much_o upon_o this_o principle_n that_o they_o have_v a_o more_o plausible_a ground_n or_o motive_n for_o their_o adoration_n but_o for_o this_o rather_o that_o confess_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n to_o remain_v they_o do_v not_o mistake_v their_o object_n but_o pay_v their_o adoration_n indeed_o to_o christ_n only_o suppose_v he_o to_o be_v there_o where_o in_o truth_n he_o be_v not_o but_o 2_o this_o author_n be_v very_o much_o mistake_v if_o he_o think_v the_o lutheran_n have_v no_o better_a a_o foundation_n for_o their_o real_a presence_n than_o the_o papist_n ibid._n see_v ibid._n indeed_o be_v the_o difference_n no_o great_a than_o between_o a_o con_n and_o a_o trans_fw-la it_o will_v i_o confess_v be_v hardly_o worth_a the_o while_n to_o contend_v about_o it_o but_o when_o we_o come_v to_o the_o point_n itself_o we_o may_v observe_v these_o four_o advantage_n among_o many_o other_o of_o the_o lutheran_n side_n 1._o they_o confess_v for_o the_o outward_a element_n that_o they_o be_v real_o what_o they_o appear_v to_o be_v bread_n and_o wine_n and_o so_o they_o do_v no_o violence_n to_o their_o sense_n which_o as_o i_o have_v say_v be_v a_o great_a aggravation_n against_o the_o papist_n 2._o by_o this_o mean_n they_o be_v at_o no_o defiance_n with_o all_o those_o text_n of_o scripture_n where_o they_o be_v so_o often_o call_v bread_n and_o wine_n after_o consecration_n all_o which_o the_o papist_n contradict_v but_o the_o lutheran_n do_v not_o 3._o from_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n this_o be_v my_o body_n we_o all_o of_o we_o confess_v may_v be_v infer_v that_o christ_n body_n be_v in_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n but_o whence_o do_v the_o papist_n infer_v the_o destruction_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n so_o that_o what_o be_v take_v and_o bless_v and_o give_v be_v not_o bread_n but_o christ_n body_n under_o the_o appearance_n of_o bread_n this_o be_v a_o error_n which_o i_o be_o sure_a the_o text_n give_v no_o manner_n of_o colour_n to_o and_o therefore_o our_o author_n can_v with_o any_o reason_n pretend_v as_o he_o do_v whether_o we_o consult_v the_o text_n of_o holy_a scripture_n or_o our_o own_o sense_n that_o they_o have_v as_o good_a ground_n for_o their_o real_a presence_n as_o the_o lutheran_n have_v for_o they_o to_o all_o which_o let_v i_o add_v 4thly_a that_o by_o transubstantiation_n they_o destroy_v the_o very_a nature_n of_o a_o sacrament_n by_o leave_v no_o true_a external_a sign_n or_o symbol_n and_o which_o be_v another_o unanswerable_a argument_n against_o they_o whilst_o the_o lutheran_n acknowledge_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n to_o remain_v do_v not_o destroy_v at_o all_o the_o nature_n of_o this_o sacrament_n but_o retain_v the_o same_o sign_n which_o our_o bless_a lord_n establish_v and_o so_o have_v no_o objection_n on_o this_o side_n neither_o to_o convict_v they_o but_o yet_o notwithstanding_o all_o this_o 27._o pag._n 26_o 27._o do_v not_o some_o of_o our_o writer_n confess_v that_o the_o papist_n interpretation_n be_v more_o rational_a than_o the_o lutheran_n i_o answer_v what_o certain_a protestant_n may_v have_v say_v in_o zeal_n for_o their_o own_o opinion_n and_o in_o particular_a hospinian_n upon_o the_o account_n of_o his_o master_n zuinglius_fw-la i_o can_v tell_v but_o sure_o i_o be_o we_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o answer_v for_o all_o that_o any_o protestant_a author_n have_v say_v and_o if_o these_o reason_n i_o have_v here_o give_v for_o the_o contrary_n be_v valid_a they_o ought_v to_o be_v more_o regard_v than_o the_o ungrounded_a assertion_n of_o a_o sacramentary_a historian_n well_o 27._o pag._n 27._o but_o still_o the_o papist_n do_v not_o ground_n his_o adoration_n upon_o transubstantiation_n but_o on_o corporal_a presence_n and_o so_o they_o must_v both_o be_v excuse_v or_o neither_o this_o be_v a_o fetch_v to_o very_o little_a purpose_n for_o let_v i_o ask_v this_o author_n he_o confess_v he_o find_v his_o adoration_n upon_o the_o corporal_a presence_n do_v he_o believe_v the_o corporal_a presence_n in_o the_o way_n of_o transubstantiation_n exclusive_a to_o all_o other_o or_o no_o if_o he_o do_v then_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o corporal_a presence_n and_o transubstantiation_n must_v with_o he_o stand_v or_o fall_v together_o and_o so_o if_o he_o adore_v on_o the_o account_n of_o the_o corporal_a presence_n he_o do_v it_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o transubstantiation_n if_o he_o do_v not_o believe_v this_o it_o be_v plain_a he_o be_v no_o papist_n nor_o submit_v to_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o have_v define_v the_o corporal_a presence_n to_o be_v after_o this_o particular_a manner_n exclusive_a to_o all_o other_o and_o anathematise_v all_o that_o dare_v to_o deny_v it_o lay_v aside_o therefore_o this_o comparison_n and_o which_o in_o truth_n will_v do_v they_o but_o very_o little_a kindness_n xxiv_o pag._n 27._o 27._o xxiv_o let_v we_o view_v more_o particular_o what_o rational_a ground_n they_o have_v to_o exhibit_v for_o this_o their_o belief_n of_o their_o corporal_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o of_o the_o adoration_n of_o he_o upon_o that_o account_n i._o ibid._n ibid._n ground_n and_o the_o first_o be_v divine_a revelation_n for_o which_o our_o author_n offer_v the_o two_o usual_a instance_n of_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n and_o the_o 6_o chapter_n of_o s._n john_n both_o which_o therefore_o i_o have_v at_o large_a discourse_v on_o above_o and_o i_o believe_v sufficient_o show_v how_o false_a a_o foundation_n these_o be_v of_o this_o belief_n but_o yet_o since_o our_o author_n remind_v we_o 28._o we_o pag._n 27_o 28._o that_o against_o these_o no_o argument_n take_v from_o our_o sense_n or_o reason_n be_v valid_a i_o will_v beg_v leave_n to_o remind_v he_o of_o his_o own_o assertion_n too_o 14._o too_o see_v treatise_n 1._o p._n 14._o that_o none_o can_v believe_v a_o thing_n true_a upon_o what_o motive_n soever_o that_o he_o know_v certain_o to_o be_v false_a or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o certain_o to_o contradict_v so_o that_o if_o our_o reason_n then_o make_v we_o certain_a of_o such_o a_o contradiction_n 1._o p._n 21._o treat_n 1._o we_o may_v be_v certain_a that_o there_o neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v a_o contrary_a revelation_n and_o when_o any_o revelation_n though_o never_o so_o plain_a be_v bring_v we_o be_v bind_v to_o interpret_v it_o so_o as_o not_o to_o affirm_v a_o certain_o know_v impossibility_n from_o which_o principle_n it_o seem_v to_o i_o to_o 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