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A66174 A discourse of the Holy Eucharist, in the two great points of the real presence and the adoration of the Host in answer to the two discourses lately printed at Oxford on this subject : to which is prefixed a large historical preface relating to the same argument. Wake, William, 1657-1737. 1687 (1687) Wing W240; ESTC R4490 116,895 178

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xvii_o mons_fw-la de_fw-fr marolles_n page_z ib._n other_o page_n xxiv_o etc._n etc._n consequence_n draw_v from_o these_o example_n i._o of_o the_o danger_n of_o the_o papist_n especial_o upon_o their_o own_o principle_n page_n xxvii_o with_o reference_n to_o this_o sacrament_n and_o therein_o to_o the_o 1._o consecration_n page_n xxvii_o 2._o adoration_n page_z ib._n 3._o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n page_n xxix_o 4._o mass_n page_n thirty_o with_o reference_n to_o their_o entire_a priesthood_n page_n xxxi_o ii_o against_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n page_n xxxiii_o iii_o against_o its_o authority_n page_n xxxiv_o iu_o as_o to_o the_o reasonableness_n of_o our_o reformation_n page_n xxxvi_o v._n that_o these_o thing_n ought_v to_o dispose_v those_o of_o that_o communion_n to_o a_o impartial_a search_n into_o the_o ground_n of_o their_o belief_n as_o to_o this_o matter_n page_n xxxvii_o part_n i._n the_o introduction_n of_o the_o nature_n of_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n in_o the_o general_n pag._n 1_o christ_n design_n in_o the_o institution_n of_o it_o pag._n 2_o that_o he_o establish_v it_o upon_o the_o ceremony_n of_o the_o jewish_a passover_n pag._n 3_o 4_o 5_o 6_o the_o method_n from_o hence_o take_v to_o explain_v the_o nature_n of_o it_o pag._n 6_o 7_o chap._n i._o of_o transubstantiation_n or_o the_o real_a presence_n establish_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n pag._n 8_o what_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o this_o point_n ib._n this_o show_v upon_o the_o principle_n before_o lay_v down_o to_o be_v repugnant_a 1._o to_o the_o design_n and_o nature_n of_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n pag._n 12_o 2._o to_o the_o expression_n itself_o this_o be_v my_o body_n pag._n 14_o the_o papist_n themselves_o sensible_a of_o it_o pag._n 18_o that_o the_o six_o of_o s._n john_n do_v not_o at_o all_o favour_n they_o pag._n 20_o this_o doctrine_n show_v further_o to_o be_v repugnant_a i._o to_o the_o best_a and_o pure_a tradition_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 24_o ii_o to_o the_o right_a reason_n pag._n 32_o iii_o to_o the_o common_a sense_n of_o all_o mankind_n pag._n 36_o conclusion_n of_o this_o point_n and_o transition_n to_o the_o next_o pag._n 37_o chap._n ii_o of_o the_o real_a presence_n acknowledge_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 41_o the_o notion_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n false_o impute_v by_o a_o late_a author_n to_o our_o church_n 42_o in_o answer_n to_o this_o four_o thing_n propose_v to_o be_v consider_v i._n what_o be_v the_o true_a notion_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n as_o acknowledge_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n pag._n 43_o ii_o that_o this_o notion_n have_v be_v constant_o maintain_v by_o our_o most_o learned_a and_o orthodox_n divine_v pag._n 46_o so_o those_o abroad_o calvin_n pag._n 47_o beza_n pag._n 49_o martyr_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 51_o for_o our_o own_o divine_n consider_v the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o twenty_o nine_o article_n in_o k._n edw._n vi_o time_n pag._n 52_o archbishop_z cranmer_z pag._n 53_o bishop_n ridley_n pag._n 55_o that_o the_o same_o contain_v to_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o our_o divine_n after_o pag._n 56_o show_v 1._o from_o the_o history_n of_o the_o convocation_n proceed_v as_o to_o this_o point_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o q._n eliz._n reign_n ib._n 2._o from_o the_o testimony_n of_o our_o divine_n bp._n jewel_n pag._n 59_o mr._n hooker_n pag._n 60_o bp._n andrews_n pag._n 62_o a._n b._n of_o spalatto_n pag._n 64_o bp._n montague_n ib._n bp._n taylour_n pag._n 66_o mr._n torndyke_n pag._n 69_o who_o testimony_n be_v cite_v at_o large_a of_o 1._o reformatio_fw-la legum_n ecclesiasticarum_fw-la 2._o bp._n morton_n 3._o a._n b._n usher_n 4._o bp._n cousin_n 5._o dr._n jo._n white_a 6._o dr._n fr._n white_a 7._o dr._n jackson_n 8._o dr._n hammond_n who_o authority_n be_v refer_v to_o pag._n 71_o 72_o iii_o that_o the_o alteration_n which_o have_v be_v make_v in_o our_o rubric_n be_v not_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o our_o divine_n change_v their_o opinion_n as_o be_v vain_o and_o false_o suggest_v pag._n 72_o iu._n that_o the_o reason_n mention_v in_o our_o rubric_n concern_v the_o impossibility_n of_o christ_n natural_a body_n exist_v in_o several_a place_n at_o the_o same_o time_n be_v no_o way_n invalidate_v by_o any_o of_o this_o author_n exception_n against_o it_o pag._n 77_o 1._o not_o by_o his_o first_o observation_n ib._n 2._o nor_o by_o his_o second_o pag._n 79_o 3._o nor_o by_o his_o three_o pag._n 80_o 4._o nor_o by_o his_o four_o pag._n 81_o the_o objection_n of_o this_o opinion_n be_v downright_a zuinglianism_n answer_v pag._n 82_o and_o the_o whole_a conclude_v pag._n 84_o part_n ii_o chap._n iii_o of_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o host_n as_o prescribe_v and_o practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n two_o thing_n propose_v to_o be_v consider_v i._n what_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o
undertake_v to_o anathematise_v all_o those_o who_o will_v not_o own_v her_o authority_n and_o receive_v her_o error_n though_o never_o so_o gross_a as_o article_n of_o faith_n we_o be_v so_o full_o convince_v of_o the_o unreasonableness_n of_o her_o pretence_n and_o of_o our_o own_o liberty_n that_o we_o shall_v hardly_o be_v bring_v to_o submit_v ourselves_o to_o the_o conduct_n of_o such_o a_o blind_a guide_n lest_o we_o shall_v into_o the_o same_o ditch_n into_o which_o she_o herself_o be_v tumble_v and_o it_o will_v certain_o much_o better_o become_v our_o author_n and_o his_o brethren_n to_o consider_v how_o they_o can_v justify_v their_o disobedience_n to_o their_o own_o mother_n than_o to_o endeavour_v at_o this_o rate_n to_o lead_v we_o into_o the_o same_o apostasy_n both_o to_o our_o religion_n and_o our_o church_n with_o they_o the_o conclusion_n and_o thus_o by_o the_o blessing_n of_o god_n and_o the_o advantage_n of_o a_o good_a cause_n have_v i_o very_o brief_o pass_v 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be_v sure_o there_o be_v any_o such_o word_n there_o if_o he_o may_v not_o trust_v his_o sense_n and_o if_o he_o may_v be_v it_o not_o as_o plain_a that_o he_o must_v seek_v for_o some_o other_o meaning_n than_o what_o they_o give_v of_o they_o let_v we_o suppose_v the_o change_n they_o speak_v of_o to_o be_v supernatural_a be_v it_o as_o much_o a_o miracle_n as_o they_o desire_v the_o very_a character_n of_o a_o miracle_n be_v to_o be_v know_v by_o the_o sense_n nor_o god_n nor_o christ_n nor_o any_o prophet_n or_o apostle_n ever_o pretend_v to_o any_o other_o and_o i_o shall_v leave_v it_o to_o any_o one_o to_o judge_v what_o progress_n christianity_n will_v have_v make_v in_o the_o world_n if_o it_o have_v have_v no_o other_o miracle_n but_o such_o as_o transubstanation_n to_o confirm_v it_o i._n e._n great_a wonder_n confident_o assert_v but_o such_o as_o every_o one_o sense_n and_o reason_n will_v tell_v he_o be_v both_o false_o assert_v and_o impossible_a to_o be_v perform_v but_o now_o while_o we_o thus_o oppose_v the_o error_n of_o some_o by_o assert_v the_o continuance_n of_o the_o natural_a substance_n of_o the_o element_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n in_o this_o holy_a eucharist_n let_v not_o any_o one_o think_v that_o we_o will_v therefore_o set_v up_o the_o mistake_n of_o other_o as_o if_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n be_v nothing_o more_o than_o a_o mere_a rite_n and_o ceremony_n a_o bare_a commemoration_n only_o of_o christ_n death_n and_o passion_n our_o church_n indeed_o teach_v we_o to_o believe_v that_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n continue_v still_o in_o their_o true_a and_o natural_a substance_n but_o it_o teach_v we_o also_o that_o it_o be_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n etc._n see_v the_o church_n catechism_n and_o article_n twenty_o eight_o the_o communion-office_n etc._n etc._n which_o every_o faithful_a soul_n receive_v in_o that_o holy_a supper_n spiritual_o indeed_o and_o after_o a_o heavenly_a manner_n but_o yet_o most_o true_o and_o real_o too_o the_o primitive_a father_n of_o who_o we_o have_v before_o speak_v sufficient_o assure_v we_o that_o they_o be_v stranger_n to_o that_o corporeal_a change_n that_o be_v now_o pretend_a but_o for_o this_o divine_a and_o mystical_a they_o have_v open_o enough_o declare_v for_o it_o nor_o be_v we_o therefore_o afraid_a to_o confess_v a_o change_n and_o that_o a_o very_a great_a one_o too_o make_v in_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n the_o bread_n and_o the_o wine_n which_o we_o here_o consecrate_v ought_v not_o to_o be_v give_v or_o receive_v by_o any_o one_o in_o this_o mystery_n as_o common_a ordinary_a food_n those_o holy_a element_n which_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n have_v sanctify_v and_o the_o divine_a word_n of_o our_o bless_a saviour_n apply_v to_o they_o though_o not_o transubstantiate_v yet_o certain_o separate_v to_o a_o holy_a use_n and_o
for_o their_o adoration_n whereby_o they_o become_v absolve_v by_o other_o protestant_n from_o idolatry_n in_o adore_v our_o lord_n as_o present_v there_o i_o see_v not_o why_o the_o ground_n of_o roman_a catholic_n shall_v be_v any_o whit_n less_o value_v than_o they_o in_o answer_n to_o which_o the_o reader_n may_v please_v to_o remember_v that_o i_o have_v before_o say_v that_o we_o do_v not_o excuse_v those_o lutheran_n who_o do_v this_o so_o much_o upon_o this_o principle_n that_o they_o have_v a_o more_o plausible_a ground_n or_o motive_n for_o their_o adoration_n but_o for_o this_o rather_o that_o confess_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n to_o remain_v they_o do_v not_o mistake_v their_o object_n but_o pay_v their_o adoration_n indeed_o to_o christ_n only_o suppose_v he_o to_o be_v there_o where_o in_o truth_n he_o be_v not_o but_o 2_o this_o author_n be_v very_o much_o mistake_v if_o he_o think_v the_o lutheran_n have_v no_o better_a a_o foundation_n for_o their_o real_a presence_n than_o the_o papist_n ibid._n see_v ibid._n indeed_o be_v the_o difference_n no_o great_a than_o between_o a_o con_n and_o a_o trans_fw-la it_o will_v i_o confess_v be_v hardly_o worth_a the_o while_n to_o contend_v about_o it_o but_o when_o we_o come_v to_o the_o point_n itself_o we_o may_v observe_v these_o four_o advantage_n among_o many_o other_o of_o the_o lutheran_n side_n 1._o they_o confess_v for_o the_o outward_a element_n that_o they_o be_v real_o what_o they_o appear_v to_o be_v bread_n and_o wine_n and_o so_o they_o do_v no_o violence_n to_o their_o sense_n which_o as_o i_o have_v say_v be_v a_o great_a aggravation_n against_o the_o papist_n 2._o by_o this_o mean_n they_o be_v at_o no_o defiance_n with_o all_o those_o text_n of_o scripture_n where_o they_o be_v so_o often_o call_v bread_n and_o wine_n after_o consecration_n all_o which_o the_o papist_n contradict_v but_o the_o lutheran_n do_v not_o 3._o from_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n this_o be_v my_o body_n we_o all_o of_o we_o confess_v may_v be_v infer_v that_o christ_n body_n be_v in_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n but_o whence_o do_v the_o papist_n infer_v the_o destruction_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n so_o that_o what_o be_v take_v and_o bless_v and_o give_v be_v not_o bread_n but_o christ_n body_n under_o the_o appearance_n of_o bread_n this_o be_v a_o error_n which_o i_o be_o sure_a the_o text_n give_v no_o manner_n of_o colour_n to_o and_o therefore_o our_o author_n can_v with_o any_o reason_n pretend_v as_o he_o do_v whether_o we_o consult_v the_o text_n of_o holy_a scripture_n or_o our_o own_o sense_n that_o they_o have_v as_o good_a ground_n for_o their_o real_a presence_n as_o the_o lutheran_n have_v for_o they_o to_o all_o which_o let_v i_o add_v 4thly_a that_o by_o transubstantiation_n they_o destroy_v the_o very_a nature_n of_o a_o sacrament_n by_o leave_v no_o true_a external_a sign_n or_o symbol_n and_o which_o be_v another_o unanswerable_a argument_n against_o they_o whilst_o the_o lutheran_n acknowledge_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n to_o remain_v do_v not_o destroy_v at_o all_o the_o nature_n of_o this_o sacrament_n but_o retain_v the_o same_o sign_n which_o our_o bless_a lord_n establish_v and_o so_o have_v no_o objection_n on_o this_o side_n neither_o to_o convict_v they_o but_o yet_o notwithstanding_o all_o this_o 27._o pag._n 26_o 27._o do_v not_o some_o of_o our_o writer_n confess_v that_o the_o papist_n interpretation_n be_v more_o rational_a than_o the_o lutheran_n i_o answer_v what_o certain_a protestant_n may_v have_v say_v in_o zeal_n for_o their_o own_o opinion_n and_o in_o particular_a hospinian_n upon_o the_o account_n of_o his_o master_n zuinglius_fw-la i_o can_v tell_v but_o sure_o i_o be_o we_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o answer_v for_o all_o that_o any_o protestant_a author_n have_v say_v and_o if_o these_o reason_n i_o have_v here_o give_v for_o the_o contrary_n be_v valid_a they_o ought_v to_o be_v more_o regard_v than_o the_o ungrounded_a assertion_n of_o a_o sacramentary_a historian_n well_o 27._o pag._n 27._o but_o still_o the_o papist_n do_v not_o ground_n his_o adoration_n upon_o transubstantiation_n but_o on_o corporal_a presence_n and_o so_o they_o must_v both_o be_v excuse_v or_o neither_o this_o be_v a_o fetch_v to_o very_o little_a purpose_n for_o let_v i_o ask_v this_o author_n he_o confess_v he_o find_v his_o adoration_n upon_o the_o corporal_a presence_n do_v he_o believe_v the_o corporal_a presence_n in_o the_o way_n of_o transubstantiation_n exclusive_a to_o all_o other_o or_o no_o if_o he_o do_v then_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o corporal_a presence_n and_o transubstantiation_n must_v with_o he_o stand_v or_o fall_v together_o and_o so_o if_o he_o adore_v on_o the_o account_n of_o the_o corporal_a presence_n he_o do_v it_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o transubstantiation_n if_o he_o do_v not_o believe_v this_o it_o be_v plain_a he_o be_v no_o papist_n nor_o submit_v to_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o have_v define_v the_o corporal_a presence_n to_o be_v after_o this_o particular_a manner_n exclusive_a to_o all_o other_o and_o anathematise_v all_o that_o dare_v to_o deny_v it_o lay_v aside_o therefore_o this_o comparison_n and_o which_o in_o truth_n will_v do_v they_o but_o very_o little_a kindness_n xxiv_o pag._n 27._o 27._o xxiv_o let_v we_o view_v more_o particular_o what_o rational_a ground_n they_o have_v to_o exhibit_v for_o this_o their_o belief_n of_o their_o corporal_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o of_o the_o adoration_n of_o he_o upon_o that_o account_n i._o ibid._n ibid._n ground_n and_o the_o first_o be_v divine_a revelation_n for_o which_o our_o author_n offer_v the_o two_o usual_a instance_n of_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n and_o the_o 6_o chapter_n of_o s._n john_n both_o which_o therefore_o i_o have_v at_o large_a discourse_v on_o above_o and_o i_o believe_v sufficient_o show_v how_o 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