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tell_v i_o how_o impudent_a it_o be_v in_o i_o to_o trouble_v we_o with_o this_o silly_a ridiculous_a story_n he_o must_v therefore_o know_v that_o he_o and_o mr._n marshal_n both_o do_v miss_v the_o case_n the_o stress_n of_o the_o decree_n lie_v not_o about_o the_o parent_n but_o for_o the_o exclusion_n of_o all_o child_n whether_o of_o pagan_a or_o christian_a parent_n because_o confession_n and_o free_a choice_n be_v require_v in_o that_o sacrament_n and_o therefore_o say_v grotius_n from_o the_o glosser_n that_o a_o infant_n can_v be_v baptize_v because_o it_o have_v no_o power_n to_o confess_v or_o choose_v the_o divine_a baptism_n and_o which_o speak_v reason_n say_v doctor_n tailor_n and_o intimate_v a_o practice_n which_o be_v absolute_o universal_a in_o the_o church_n of_o interrogate_a the_o catechuman_n concern_v the_o article_n of_o their_o creed_n which_o be_v one_o argument_n say_v he_o that_o either_o they_o do_v not_o admit_v infant_n to_o baptism_n or_o that_o they_o 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own_v in_o this_o age_n and_o that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v not_o yet_o receive_v as_o a_o apostolical_a tradition_n and_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n whilst_o so_o many_o renown_a worthy_n of_o this_o age_n the_o parent_n of_o these_o great_a man_n shall_v neglect_v to_o baptise_v they_o in_o their_o infancy_n for_o the_o argument_n lie_v there_o and_o not_o as_o mr._n will_v so_o weak_o reason_n from_o some_o misapprehension_n in_o the_o party_n themselves_o as_o in_o p._n 17._o as_o constant_n the_o son_n of_o christian_n parent_n as_o but_o as_o to_o the_o exception_n themselves_o first_o as_o to_o constantin_n if_o he_o and_o mr._n marshal_n doubt_v whether_o constantin_n have_v godly_a parent_n at_o his_o birth_n as_o good_a historian_n as_o they_o do_v not_o as_o grotius_n and_o dailly_n dailly_n dailly_n witness_v to_o helana_n christianity_n before_o his_o birth_n as_o p._n 60._o &_o 62._o and_o the_o magdeburg_n magd._n magd._n to_o that_o of_o his_o father_n cent._n 4._o p._n 61._o out_o of_o eusebius_n in_o these_o word_n constantinus_n constantii_n imperatoris_fw-la filii_fw-la bone_fw-la a_o bono_fw-mi pius_fw-la a_o pio_fw-la constantine_n the_o son_n of_o constantius_n a_o good_a man_n from_o a_o good_a a_o holy_a man_n from_o a_o holy_a one_o magd._n nazian_n the_o son_n of_o christian_n parent_n as_o magd._n as_o to_o that_o of_o nazienzen_n i_o wonder_v mr._n will_n shall_v cavil_v about_o he_o see_v he_o know_v the_o magdâ—burgs_n in_o the_o account_n they_o give_v of_o his_o life_n tell_v we_o from_o such_o undeniable_a authority_n that_o his_o father_n gregorius_n be_v a_o pious_a bishop_n and_o his_o mother_n nonna_n a_o gracious_a holy_a woman_n before_o his_o birth_n and_o that_o she_o by_o prayer_n obtain_v this_o her_o son_n of_o god_n and_o how_o from_o his_o youth_n he_o do_v patrizare_a &_o matristatim_fw-la a_o pvero_fw-la paternis_fw-la moribus_fw-la imbutus_fw-la est_fw-la mag._n cent._n 4._o pag._n 9â—4_n etc._n etc._n beside_o in_o confirmation_n thereof_o doctor_n hall_n hall_n dr._n hall_n as_o mr._n tomb_n tell_v we_o in_o his_o honour_n to_o his_o marry_a clergy_n 2_o book_n 8._o sect._n say_v that_o nazienzen_n be_v beget_v of_o his_o father_n be_v a_o bishop_n and_o to_o prove_v it_o bring_v his_o father_n word_n speak_v to_o he_o to_o persuade_v he_o to_o help_v he_o in_o his_o charge_n which_o he_o translate_v out_o of_o the_o greek_a viz._n the_o year_n of_o thy_o age_n be_v not_o so_o many_o as_o of_o my_o priesthood_n confirm_v what_o be_v say_v above_o out_o of_o the_o magdeburg_n as_o for_o chrysostome_n he_o say_v mr._n marshal_n say_v as_o chrisost_n christian_n parent_n as_o it_o be_v uncertain_a whether_o father_n and_o mother_n be_v christian_n at_o his_o birth_n but_o as_o for_o that_o we_o will_v let_v it_o rest_v upon_o grotius_n testimony_n grotius_n grotius_n as_o you_o have_v it_o p._n 61._o who_o none_o can_v think_v a_o partial_a author_n in_o this_o case_n be_v so_o firm_o for_o infant_n baptism_n and_o without_o dispute_n so_o well_o read_v in_o antiquity_n and_o as_o for_o austin_n i_o will_v recommend_v you_o to_o two_o instance_n to_o make_v it_o good_a as_o austin_n christian_n parent_n as_o and_o clear_a mr._n will_v doubt_n thâ—_n one_o be_v doctor_n tayler_n tailor_n dr._n tailor_n not_o in_o his_o liberty_n of_o prophecy_n which_o be_v except_v against_o by_o mr._n will_n but_o how_o warrentable_o we_o shall_v hereafter_o examine_v but_o in_o one_o of_o his_o last_o piece_n viz._n in_o his_o deswasive_a against_o popery_n print_v 1667._o where_o you_o have_v he_o in_o sect._n 3._o p._n 117._o thus_o express_v himself_o viz._n that_o there_o be_v no_o pretence_n of_o tradition_n that_o the_o church_n in_o all_o age_n do_v baptise_v all_o the_o infant_n of_o christian_a parent_n it_o be_v more_o certain_a that_o thâ—y_o do_v not_o do_v it_o then_o that_o they_o do_v
the_o behalf_n of_o believer_n and_o against_o infant_n baptism_n and_o whether_o mr._n will_n have_v reason_n to_o charge_v i_o with_o delusion_n for_o produce_v of_o they_o which_o as_o yet_o stand_v unanswered_a for_o the_o most_o part_n and_o i_o believe_v ever_o will_v do_v chap._n ii_o that_o infant_n baptism_n have_v neither_o foundation_n in_o scripture_n or_o antiquity_n be_v make_v good_a against_o mr._n will_v his_o pretence_n to_o both_o section_n 1_o as_o in_o the_o former_a chapter_n so_o in_o this_o i_o shall_v sum_v up_o what_o i_o have_v say_v to_o justify_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o assertion_n what_o mr._n will_n grant_v thereof_o wherein_o the_o force_n of_o his_o objection_n lie_v and_o my_o reply_n thereto_o baptism_n that_o no_o precept_n or_o practice_n for_o infant_n baptism_n the_o first_o thing_n i_o do_v herein_o be_v to_o make_v good_a the_o scripture_n total_a silence_n either_o as_o to_o precept_n or_o practise_v for_o infnnt_n baptism_n and_o that_o by_o the_o full_a grant_n and_o acknowledgement_n of_o so_o many_o of_o themselves_o viz._n the_o magdeburg_n luther_n erasmus_n calvin_n bucer_n staphilus_n choelens_n melancton_n zwinglius_fw-la rogers_n baxter_n pag._n 89._o to_o 93_o as_o also_o the_o necessity_n of_o scripture_n precept_n or_o example_n to_o warrant_v every_o ordinance_n by_o the_o say_n of_o tertullian_n austin_n theophilact_fw-mi luther_n calvin_n ball_n 6._o art_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n pag._n 93_o to_o 97._o grant_v mr._n will_n answer_v &_o grant_v all_o which_o our_o antagonist_n full_o grant_v with_o our_o foresay_a authority_n viz._n that_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n or_o example_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n that_o be_v to_o say_v express_o literal_o and_o sillabical_o p._n 35_o 36_o 32._o and_o that_o scripture_n authority_n be_v necessary_a to_o warrant_v every_o ordinance_n but_o withal_o say_v these_o two_o thing_n viz._n first_o forbid_v 1._o no_o scripture_n forbid_v that_o as_o 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no_o express_a command_n for_o the_o same_o nor_o example_n to_o plunge_v they_o as_o they_o do_v with_o their_o clothes_n on_o pag._n 101._o and_o therefore_o in_o mr._n baxters_n word_n tell_v we_o in_o his_o usual_a civility_n what_o ignorant_a wretch_n we_o be_v to_o call_v for_o express_v word_n of_o scripture_n when_o we_o have_v the_o evident_a consequence_n or_o sense_n and_o be_v scripture_n reason_n say_v he_o no_o scripture_n with_o you_o to_o both_o which_o i_o reply_v first_o first_o reply_v to_o the_o first_o to_o his_o first_o argument_n that_o infant_n baptism_n may_v be_v lawful_a because_o not_o forbid_v in_o the_o scripture_n nor_o no_o where_o tell_v where_o it_o be_v not_o do_v may_v also_o prove_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o baptise_v bell_n and_o church_n wall_n of_o chrism_n exorcism_n communicate_v infant_n and_o a_o hundred_o other_o invention_n that_o be_v practise_v of_o old_a and_o still_o be_v in_o use_n among_o the_o papist_n neither_o be_v it_o any_o where_o tell_v we_o in_o express_a term_n that_o such_o thing_n be_v not_o practise_v forbid_v what_o not_o command_v in_o worship_n be_v forbid_v but_o this_o we_o have_v clear_a in_o the_o scripture_n and_o and_o which_o be_v to_o be_v a_o rule_n to_o we_o in_o all_o such_o case_n that_o that_o worship_n which_o in_o express_a term_n be_v not_o commanâ—eâ—_n be_v express_o forbid_v and_o for_o which_o take_v the_o follow_a scripture_n viz._n col._n 2.20_o 21_o 22._o if_o you_o be_v dead_a with_o christ_n from_o the_o rudiment_n of_o the_o world_n why_o as_o though_o live_v in_o the_o world_n be_v you_o subject_n to_o ordinance_n touch_v not_o taste_v not_o handle_v not_o after_o the_o commandment_n of_o men._n matth._n 15.9_o but_o in_o vain_a do_v they_o worship_v i_o teach_v for_o doctrine_n the_o commandâ—ments_n of_o men._n deut._n 4.2_o you_o shall_v not_o add_v unto_o the_o word_n whâ—ch_o i_o command_v you_o neither_o shall_v you_o demtnish_v aught_o from_o it_o that_o you_o may_v 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