Selected quad for the lemma: authority_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
authority_n	apostle_n	faith_n	scripture_n	2,207	5	5.6206	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A07105	A treatise of schisme Shewing, that al Catholikes ought in any wise to abstaine altogether from heretical conuenticles, to witt, their prayers, sermons. &c, deuided into foure chapters, whereof 1. Conteineth sundry reasons to that purpose, grounded for the most part vppon scriptures and fathers. 2.Examples out of holy scriptures. 3. Examples out of ecclesiastical histories. 4. Answeres to the chiefe obiections. By Gregorie Martin Licentiate in Diuinitie.	Martin, Gregory, d. 1582.	1578 (1578)	STC 17508; ESTC S107013	61,358	188

and_o as_o i_o remember_v lira_n upon_o that_o place_n do_v so_o define_v but_o this_o be_v pap_n for_o infant_n and_o young_a catholic_n 5._o perfectorum_fw-la autem_fw-la such_o as_o our_o man_n ought_v to_o be_v est_fw-la solidus_fw-la cibus_fw-la corum_fw-la qui_fw-la pro_fw-la consuetudine_fw-la exercitatos_fw-la habent_fw-la sensus_fw-la ad_fw-la discretionem_fw-la boni_fw-la &_o mali_fw-la but_o for_o the_o perfect_a strong_a meat_n be_v more_o convenient_a for_o such_o i_o say_v which_o of_o long_a custom_n and_o bring_v up_o have_v their_o sense_n and_o understanding_n exercise_v to_o discern_v between_o good_a and_o evil_a they_o have_v for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v bear_v and_o bring_v up_o in_o catholic_a religion_n they_o be_v no_o convertite_n if_o they_o therefore_o claim_v child_n privilege_n you_o must_v answer_v they_o with_o s._n paul_n cùm_fw-la deberetis_fw-la magistri_fw-la esse_fw-la propter_fw-la tempus_fw-la rursùm_fw-la indigetis_fw-la ut_fw-la vos_fw-la doceamini_fw-la quae_fw-la sint_fw-la elementa_fw-la exordii_fw-la sermonum_fw-la dei_fw-la &_o facti_fw-la estis_fw-la quibus_fw-la lac_fw-la opus_fw-la sit_fw-la non_fw-la solido_fw-la cibo_fw-la omnis_fw-la namque_fw-la qui_fw-la lactis_fw-la est_fw-la particeps_fw-la expers_fw-la est_fw-la sermonis_fw-la iustitiae_fw-la paruulus_fw-la namque_fw-la est_fw-la whereas_o for_o your_o time_n you_o ought_v to_o be_v master_n and_o teacher_n you_o have_v need_n to_o be_v teach_v again_o yourselves_o what_o be_v the_o principle_n and_o first_o letter_n of_o god_n will_v and_o commandment_n and_o you_o be_v become_v such_o as_o have_v need_n of_o pap_n rather_o than_o strong_a meat_n for_o whosoever_o be_v a_o milksopp_n he_o be_v ignorant_a of_o that_o that_o shall_v make_v he_o a_o perfect_a just_a man_n for_o he_o be_v a_o very_a babe_n another_o answer_n better_o than_o these_o be_v that_o he_o mean_v to_o adore_v the_o true_a god_n by_o open_a protestation_n in_o the_o idol_n temple_n 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credunt_fw-la that_o which_o poor_a wretch_n be_v too_o desirous_a of_o they_o believe_v it_o easy_o the_o apostle_n talk_v de_fw-la idolothytis_fw-la meat_n offer_v to_o idol_n define_v thus_o that_o idolum_fw-la nihil_fw-la est_fw-la &_o nihil_fw-la common_a per_fw-la ipsum_fw-la 10._o sed_fw-la omne_fw-la munda_fw-la a_o idol_n be_v nothing_o and_o no_o meat_n be_v unclean_a of_o itself_o but_o all_o meat_n be_v clean_o &_o omne_fw-la license_fw-la all_o meat_n be_v lawful_a all_o may_v be_v caten_z of_o they_o that_o do_v know_v thus_o much_o who_o he_o call_v habentes_fw-la scientiam_fw-la such_o as_o have_v knowledge_n but_o because_o there_o be_v other_o weakling_n not_o so_o well_o instruct_v non_fw-la in_fw-la omnibus_fw-la est_fw-la scientia_fw-la all_o have_v not_o knowledge_n that_o in_o conscience_n think_v the_o eat_n of_o idolothita_n to_o be_v a_o honour_n to_o the_o idol_n &_o yet_o do_v eat_v thereof_o quidam_fw-la conscientia_fw-la usque_fw-la nunc_fw-la idoli_fw-la quasi_fw-la idolothitum_fw-la manducant_fw-la &_o conscientia_fw-la eorum_fw-la cùm_fw-la sit_fw-la infirma_fw-la polluitur_fw-la qui_fw-la namque_fw-la discernit_fw-la si_fw-la manducaverit_fw-la damnatus_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la fide_fw-la some_o in_o conscience_n make_v even_o yet_o some_o account_n of_o a_o idol_n eat_v it_o as_o idolatrous_a meat_n and_o their_o conscience_n be_v weak_a be_v defile_v for_o he_o that_o make_v a_o difference_n if_o he_o do_v eat_v be_v condemn_v because_o he_o do_v not_o according_a to_o his_o belief_n and_o conscience_n because_o his_o faith_n and_o conscience_n be_v that_o it_o honour_v the_o idol_n &_o therefore_o they_o shall_v not_o eat_v thereof_o and_o because_o these_o man_n will_v not_o of_o themselves_o have_v eat_v it_o but_o do_v it_o by_o the_o example_n of_o they_o qui_fw-la habebant_fw-la scientiam_fw-la &_o fidem_fw-la that_o do_v according_a to_o their_o knowledge_n and_o conscience_n and_o may_v do_v it_o lawful_o but_o for_o scanual_a to_o their_o weak_a brethren_n therefore_o s._n paul_n will_v they_o also_o to_o abstain_v rather_o than_o cause_v the_o other_o by_o their_o example_n to_o eat_v also_o and_o so_o to_o sin_n quia_fw-la existimantes_fw-la esse_fw-la common_a &_o comedentes_fw-la ideò_fw-la peccabant_fw-la for_o they_o that_o think_v it_o unclean_a and_o yet_o do_v eat_v do_v therefore_o sin_n whereas_o the_o other_o habentes_fw-la scientiam_fw-la nihil_fw-la esse_fw-la common_a per_fw-la se_fw-la know_v that_o nothing_o be_v unclean_a of_o itself_o do_v not_o offend_v in_o eat_v but_o in_o give_v the_o weak_a sort_n occasion_n to_o eat_v omnia_fw-la sunt_fw-la munda_fw-la sed_fw-la malum_fw-la est_fw-la homini_fw-la qui_fw-la per_fw-la offendiculum_fw-la manducat_fw-la all_o thing_n be_v clean_a but_o it_o be_v ill_a for_o the_o man_n that_o eat_v with_o give_v offence_n &_o scandal_n that_o make_v his_o brother_n to_o sin_n by_o that_o mean_n whereas_o the_o thing_n be_v indifferent_a in_o itself_o esca_fw-la enim_fw-la nos_fw-la non_fw-la commendat_fw-la deo_fw-la meat_n do_v not_o make_v we_o commendable_a and_o therefore_o if_o thou_o be_v never_o the_o better_a for_o eat_v ut_fw-la quid_fw-la tua_fw-la libertas_fw-la ab_fw-la aliena_fw-la conscientia_fw-la iudicatur_fw-la why_o do_v thou_o use_v this_o liberty_n of_o thou_o to_o wound_v thy_o brother_n conscience_n sic_fw-la enim_fw-la peccantes_fw-la in_o fratres_fw-la &_o percutientes_fw-la eorum_fw-la conscientiam_fw-la infirmam_fw-la in_o christum_n peccatis_fw-la for_o sin_v after_o that_o sort_n against_o your_o brethren_n and_o wound_v their_o weak_a conscience_n you_o sin_n against_o christ_n this_o be_v the_o apostle_n whole_a drift_n de_fw-fr idolothitis_n concern_v meat_n offer_v to_o idol_n now_o to_o our_o purpose_n whereas_o these_o habentes_fw-la scientiam_fw-la that_o have_v knowledge_n do_v say_v we_o know_v omnia_fw-la munda_fw-la mundis_fw-la all_o be_v clean_a to_o the_o clean_a we_o have_v no_o such_o scrupulosity_n why_o shall_v we_o abstain_v as_o though_o we_o be_v weakling_n nay_o we_o will_v eat_v rather_o to_o protest_v our_o knowledge_n and_o our_o conscience_n to_o this_o s._n paul_n answer_v tu_fw-la fidem_fw-la habes_fw-la penes_fw-la teipsum_fw-la habe_fw-la coram_fw-la deo_fw-la have_v thou_o a_o strong_a faith_n and_o perfect_a knowledge_n in_o these_o thing_n it_o be_v enough_o for_o thou_o that_o god_n do_v know_v that_o thou_o be_v none_o of_o these_o weakling_n but_o because_o it_o be_v indifferent_a and_o god_n do_v not_o look_v for_o it_o nor_o like_v thou_o any_o thing_n the_o better_a for_o eat_v neque_fw-la namque_fw-la si_fw-la manducaverimus_fw-la abundabimus_fw-la neque_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la manducaverimus_fw-la deficiemus_fw-la for_o neither_o if_o we_o eat_v shall_v we_o gain_v thereby_o neither_o if_o we_o eat_v not_o shall_v we_o lose_v by_o it_o abstain_v from_o thy_o brother_n conscience_n who_o not_o have_v knowledge_n think_v that_o it_o be_v pollutum_fw-la ex_fw-la idolo_fw-la and_o make_v unclean_a by_o be_v offer_v to_o the_o idol_n and_o by_o thy_o example_n eat_v &_o so_o sin_v against_o his_o conscience_n if_o thou_o answer_v i_o let_v he_o look_v to_o that_o what_o be_v it_o to_o i_o i_o know_v it_o be_v not_o unclean_a and_o idolum_fw-la nihil_fw-la est_fw-la that_o a_o idol_n be_v a_o thing_n of_o nothing_o and_o therefore_o i_o eat_v with_o a_o safe_a conscience_n oh_o say_v he_o but_o si_fw-mi quis_fw-la dixerit_fw-la hoc_fw-la immolatum_fw-la est_fw-la idolis_fw-la 10._o noli_fw-la manducare_fw-la propter_fw-la illum_fw-la &_o propter_fw-la conscientiam_fw-la conscientiam_fw-la autem_fw-la dico_fw-la non_fw-la tuam_fw-la sed_fw-la alterius_fw-la if_o any_o man_n shall_v say_v this_o be_v offer_v to_o idol_n eat_v not_o of_o it_o for_o his_o sake_n and_o for_o conscience_n conscience_n i_o say_v not_o thine_o own_o but_o that_o other_o man_n because_o he_o think_v it_o be_v unclean_a and_o unlawful_a otherwise_o if_o thou_o boast_v thy_o knowledge_n to_o the_o ruin_n of_o thy_o weak_a brother_n scientia_fw-la haec_fw-la inflat_fw-la 8._o charitas_fw-la autem_fw-la aedificat_fw-la this_o knowledge_n do_v puff_n up_o and_o make_v proud_a but_o it_o be_v charity_n that_o edify_v so_o that_o the_o apostle_n brief_o

devise_v a_o new_a subtlety_n under_o the_o very_a title_n and_o name_n of_o christianity_n to_o deceive_v the_o unwarye_a he_o find_v out_o i_o say_v heresy_n and_o schism_n whereby_o he_o may_v overthrow_v faith_n corrupt_v the_o truth_n divide_v the_o unity_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n s._n ambrose_n to_o signify_v that_o they_o be_v very_a infidel_n say_v 2._o quadam_fw-la nuncupativa_fw-la fidei_fw-la germanitate_fw-la parricidialibus_fw-la gladiis_fw-la nos_fw-la cupiunt_fw-la vulnerare_fw-la with_o a_o certain_a brotherly_a affinity_n or_o likeness_n of_o one_o faith_n they_o covet_v to_o wound_v we_o as_o if_o one_o brother_n shall_v draw_v his_o sword_n against_o his_o other_o brethren_n and_o praise_v his_o brother_n satyrus_n quòd_fw-la non_fw-la arbitrabatur_fw-la fidem_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o schismate_fw-la because_o he_o think_v there_o be_v not_o a_o right_a &_o perfect_a faith_n in_o schism_n much_o less_o in_o heresy_n s._n austen_n finem_fw-la amemus_fw-la dominun_n deum_fw-la nostrum_fw-la amemus_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la eius_fw-la illum_fw-la sicut_fw-la patrem_fw-la istam_fw-la sicut_fw-la matrem_fw-la sed_fw-la matrimonium_fw-la hoc_fw-la magna_fw-la charitate_fw-la compaginatur_fw-la nemo_fw-la offendit_fw-la unum_fw-la et_fw-la promeretur_fw-la alteram_fw-la nemo_fw-la dicat_fw-la ad_fw-la idola_fw-la quidem_fw-la vado_fw-la sed_fw-la tamen_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la dei_fw-la non_fw-la relinquo_fw-la catholicus_n sum_n timens_fw-la matrem_fw-la offendis_fw-la patrem_fw-la alius_fw-la item_n dicit_fw-la absit_fw-la à_fw-la i_o non_fw-la consulo_fw-la sortilegium_fw-la non_fw-la seruio_fw-la lapidibus_fw-la sed_fw-la tamen_fw-la in_o parte_fw-la donati_n sum_fw-la quid_fw-la tibi_fw-la prodest_fw-la non_fw-la offensus_fw-la pater_fw-la qui_fw-la offensus_fw-la vindicat_fw-la matrem_fw-la let_v we_o love_v our_o lord_n god_n let_v we_o love_v his_o church_n he_o as_o a_o father_n her_o as_z a_o mother_n this_o matrimony_n be_v knit_v together_o with_o great_a charity_n no_o man_n offend_v the_o one_o &_o have_v the_o favour_n of_o the_o other_o let_v no_o man_n say_v i_o go_v to_o idol_n in_o deed_n but_o for_o all_o that_o i_o do_v not_o forsake_v the_o church_n of_o god_n i_o be_o a_o catholic_a still_o although_o thou_o stick_v to_o the_o mother_n yet_o thou_o offend_v against_o the_o father_n some_o other_o say_v i_o ask_v no_o council_n of_o soothsayer_n god_n forbid_v i_o worship_n no_o stock_n nor_o stone_n but_o for_o all_o that_o i_o be_o of_o donatus_n side_n a_o schismatic_n and_o a_o heretic_n what_o do_v it_o avail_v thou_o not_o to_o offend_v direct_o against_o the_o father_n who_o be_v offend_v notwithstanding_o and_o will_v punish_v the_o injury_n do_v to_o the_o mother_n to_o commit_v idolatry_n he_o make_v a_o sin_n against_o god_n to_o be_v in_o schism_n a_o sin_n against_o the_o church_n of_o god_n whether_o a_o man_n do_v the_o one_o or_o other_o he_o say_v it_o offend_v god_n all_o one_o thus_o far_o it_o seem_v the_o case_n be_v equal_a jew_n and_o that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v shun_v alike_o now_o ex_fw-la abundanti_fw-la to_o prove_v that_o the_o heretic_n and_o schismatic_n be_v worse_a than_o the_o gentile_a or_o the_o jew_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v more_o eschew_v these_o may_v seem_v very_o plain_a argument_n s._n 5._o paul_n scripsi_fw-la vobis_fw-la in_o epistola_fw-la nè_fw-la commisceamini_fw-la fornicariis_fw-la non_fw-la utique_fw-la fornicariis_fw-la huius_fw-la mundi_fw-la aut_fw-la idolis_fw-la feruientibus_fw-la sed_fw-la si_fw-la be_v qui_fw-la frater_fw-la nominatur_fw-la est_fw-la fornicarius_fw-la aut_fw-la avarus_fw-la etc_n etc_n cum_fw-la eiusmodi_fw-la nec_fw-la cibum_fw-la sumere_fw-la i_o write_v to_o you_o in_o a_o epistle_n not_o to_o keep_v company_n with_o fornicator_n i_o mean_v not_o the_o fornicator_n of_o this_o world_n infidel_n and_o gentile_n or_o worshipper_n of_o idol_n but_o if_o he_o that_o be_v our_o christian_a brother_n be_v a_o fornicator_n or_o covetous_a with_o such_o a_o one_o that_o you_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o eat_v and_o drink_v be_v it_o not_o evident_a that_o he_o will_v they_o to_o abstain_v from_o a_o false_a christen_v brother_n rather_o than_o from_o a_o flat_a panym_n and_o that_o for_o lesser_a sin_n than_o heresy_n again_o the_o church_n permit_v they_o to_o live_v &_o that_o by_o the_o apostle_n authority_n quid_fw-la mihi_fw-la de_fw-la iis_fw-la qui_fw-la foris_fw-la sunt_fw-la iudicare_fw-la what_o have_v i_o to_o do_v to_o judge_v of_o they_o that_o be_v without_o mean_v all_o that_o be_v not_o christian_n but_o the_o heretic_n be_v punish_v with_o death_n whether_o be_v more_o abhor_a 37._o see_v the_o ecclesiastical_a history_n of_o eusebius_n where_o dionysius_n the_o famous_a bishop_n say_v that_o to_o suffer_v martyrdom_n for_o the_o avoid_v of_o schism_n be_v more_o commendable_a then_o for_o the_o aavoyd_n of_o idolatry_n because_o in_o the_o one_o be_v the_o safety_n of_o our_o soul_n in_o the_o other_o be_v the_o salvation_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n it_o be_v a_o notable_a place_n and_o s._n austen_n prove_v that_o schism_n offend_v god_n more_o than_o idolatry_n by_o the_o selfsame_o reason_n because_o it_o be_v more_o grievous_o punish_v as_o in_o chore_n dathan_n and_o abyron_n then_o in_o aaron_n and_o they_o that_o worship_v the_o calf_n again_o of_o the_o jew_n and_o heretic_n the_o same_o doctor_n write_v 45._o quòd_fw-la haeretici_fw-la offendant_fw-la ad_fw-la lapidem_fw-la iam_fw-la montem_fw-la factum_fw-la miseriores_fw-la judęis_fw-la qui_fw-la faciliùs_fw-la ad_fw-la lapidem_fw-la tum_fw-la paruum_fw-la et_fw-la paulò_fw-la antè_fw-la abscissum_fw-la offenderunt_fw-la heretic_n stumble_v at_o the_o stone_n that_o be_v now_o grow_v to_o be_v a_o mighty_a hill_n be_v more_o miserable_a they_o the_o jew_n who_o no_o marvel_n if_o they_o stumble_v more_o easy_o at_o the_o stone_n as_o then_o be_v little_a and_o cut_v out_o of_o the_o quarrye_a a_o little_a before_o he_o allude_v to_o daniels_n prophecy_n of_o our_o saviour_n to_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o virgin._n the_o jew_n stumble_v at_o the_o beginning_n when_o the_o church_n begin_v but_o heretic_n stumble_v now_o at_o it_o when_o it_o fill_v the_o whole_a world_n if_o then_o they_o be_v worse_a than_o the_o jew_n ergò_fw-la much_o more_o than_o the_o paynim_n which_o be_v infidel_n only_a negatiuè_fw-fr negative_o as_o s._n thomas_n term_v it_o because_o they_o have_v not_o hear_v of_o christ_n and_o his_o church_n according_a to_o those_o place_n si_fw-mi non_fw-la fecissem_fw-la in_o eye_n signa_fw-la 15._o quae_fw-la nemo_fw-la alius_fw-la fecit_fw-la peccatum_fw-la non_fw-la haberent_fw-la nempè_fw-la obstinatae_fw-la infidelitatis_fw-la nunc_fw-la autem_fw-la viderunt_fw-la et_fw-la oderunt_fw-la if_o i_o have_v not_o wrought_v among_o they_o token_n such_o as_o no_o other_o man_n do_v they_o shall_v not_o have_v sin_v to_o wit_n the_o sin_n of_o obstinate_a infidelity_n but_o now_o they_o have_v see_v and_o yet_o hate_v i_o and_o si_fw-mi coeci_fw-la essetis_fw-la non_fw-la haberetis_fw-la peccatum_fw-la 9_o if_o you_o be_v blind_a in_o deed_n and_o have_v never_o hear_v of_o i_o you_o shall_v not_o have_v sin_v of_o obstinate_a infidelity_n nunc_fw-la verò_fw-la dicitis_fw-la quia_fw-la vidimus_fw-la peccatum_fw-la vestrum_fw-la manet_fw-la but_o now_o you_o say_v that_o we_o see_v very_o well_o therefore_o your_o sin_n remain_v and_o therefore_o he_o say_v 11._o terrae_fw-la sodomorum_fw-la remissius_fw-la erit_fw-la in_o die_fw-la iudicii_fw-la quàm_fw-la tibi_fw-la there_o shall_v be_v more_o favour_v sodomite_n in_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n then_o to_o thou_o the_o great_a punishment_n be_v always_o a_o token_n of_o the_o great_a sin_n especial_o after_o this_o life_n now_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o this_o obstinate_a infidelity_n be_v great_a in_o the_o heretic_n then_o either_o in_o jew_n or_o paynim_n again_o all_o author_n of_o heresy_n and_o catholic_n pervert_v by_o they_o be_v apostate_n and_o revolter_n from_o their_o first_o christian_a profession_n ergò_fw-la worse_a than_o they_o that_o never_o profess_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n 2._o si_fw-mi refugientes_fw-la coinquinationes_fw-la mundi_fw-la in_o cognition_n domini_fw-la jesu_fw-la christi_fw-la if_o they_o that_o fly_v from_o worldly_a unclenne_n by_o the_o knowledge_n of_o jesus_n christ_n as_o when_o paynim_n be_v christen_v hi_o rursus_fw-la implicati_fw-la superantur_fw-la facta_fw-la sunt_fw-la eye_n posteriora_fw-la deteriora_fw-la prioribus_fw-la melius_fw-la namque_fw-la erat_fw-la illis_fw-la non_fw-la cognoscere_fw-la viam_fw-la iustitię_n quàm_fw-la post_fw-la agnitionem_fw-la retrorsum_fw-la converti_fw-la etc_n etc_n if_o they_o i_o say_v entangle_v again_o with_o they_o be_v so_o overcome_v this_o late_a revolt_n make_v they_o in_o worse_a case_n they_o before_o they_o first_o believe_v for_o they_o have_v be_v better_a not_o to_o know_v the_o way_n of_o righteousness_n then_o after_o they_o know_v it_o to_o turn_v back_o again_o and_o immundus_n spiritus_fw-la egressus_fw-la de_fw-la homine_fw-la etc_n etc_n a_o unclean_a spirit_n be_v depart_v out_o of_o man_n when_o by_o baptism_n the_o spirit_n of_o infidelity_n and_o paganism_n be_v drive_v out_o non_fw-la inveniens_fw-la