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A42146	The searchers for schism search'd, or, Their pretended questions for conscience sake answered wherein is proved that those baptized congregations under laying on of hands are not guilty of schism in separating from them : shewing, in opposition to their threeforld hypothesis, that their church constitution is not true, separation from them proved lawful, the truth and authority of the doctrine about which they separate, vindicated / humbly presented to all concerned [by] J. Griffith ...	Griffith, John, 1622?-1700.	1669 (1669)	Wing G2003; ESTC R41670	59,153	128

●earned and Judicious as any in the Church of England and as well read in the Customs of the ●rimitive Times tells us in his Annotations ●●on that place That the laying on of hands there ●●ken of is understood for a laying on of hands up●● such as had fallen after Baptism 2. It 's notably done and well thought on seeing help fails you from the Scriptures to see whether the learned judicious and well-read Doctors in Mystery Babylon can lend you any But pray doth not this learned judicious and well-read Doctor tell you no where in no place of his Annotations That the baptising of Infants was a primitive Practice or that it came in near those Times by good authentick Orthodox Authority If he doth pray do you consider how you can infallibly infer from Mat. 28.19 the Baptism of Believers as you practise it since so learned a judicious and well-read Doctor was in his Judgement and Practice for sprinkling of Babes and no doubt but he so learned and wise hath something to say for his Practice 3. But this say you he further proves fro● Paul's advice to Timothy 1 Tim. 5.2 where he ● not speaking of any other thing but Church-Censures Look again the whole Chapter thorow i● that a Church-Censure v. 18 19. if not the● that v. 22. may not be a laying on of hands suddenly upon any that had been censured by th● Church And this will appear more plain 〈◊〉 comparing the third Chapter with this the● may it be as fairly and as wisely conclude● That this laying on of hands which Timothy m●● not be sudden in was for Ordination of Bishop and Deacons rather than a laying on of han● upon such as had fallen after Baptism for where read you of such a laying on of hands in all the Scripture either taught or practised by any the deep silence thereof makes us we can neither credit the Doctor nor you in this matter though he be learned judicious and well read in the Primitive Customs But if what he saith were true yet will it do you no service because if such a laying on of hands were then practised neither you nor Dr. Hamond to help you nay take Victor and the third Council of Carthage with you also can prove such a laying on of hands to be that menti●●ed Heb. 6. which is there said to be a Principle of the Doctrine of Christ a Foundation-Principle But no more in this place to such a Scriptureless-notion 4. To your second consideration we shall say no more yet than what we have already said in answer to your former printed Questions where this is stated and by us answered See Gods Oracle and Christs Doctrine p. 39 40. But we grant You do read of a laying on of hands on the Sick but how delivered in the Commission we shall hereafter examine And you do read of laying on of hands to ordain Officers and of laying on of hands by which men received the extraordinary Gifts of the Spirit But why do you not make up just half a dozen but leave out that now you brought in with the rest in your printed Questions before mentioned Luk. 21.12 But the fifth you say is that laying on of hands which was afterwards call'd Confirmation because by the Gifts of the holy Ghost the Christians were confirmed in the truth of the Gospel and though those Gifts ceased yet they continued the practice of it in the Church of Rome and many other Protestant Churches to this day 5. Here you confess that the laying on of hands mentioned in Act. 18.17 19.6 is practised by the Church of Rome and many Protestant Churches down from the primitive times to this day May we not think it str●●ge if it be so that you should oppose and refuse to practise that which so many learned judicious and well-read Doctors as have been all along in the Church of Rome and many Protestant Churches do practise but rather against many take the private opinion of some few who by their opinion if true do not contradict nor oppose that laying on of hands mentioned by you in the fifth of your numerations considering withall that the Doctors in Rome and in many Protestant Churches do not consent to such a practice as laying on of hands when they receive any that are fallen after Baptism at this day 6. In your next you seem to thrust in by head and shoulders another sort of laying on of hands or if not another ground the Apo●●les and primitive Churches had to practise the former you numerate than the Authority of Christs Doctrine when you say It was practised by them by way of accomodation to the Jewish Customs as you say appears in Moses laying his hands upon Joshua Numb 18.19 22 23. Deut. 34.9 and so Jacob blessed the Children of Joseph by laying his hands upon them Doth it appear from those places and passages you quote that the Apostles and primitive Churches did practise laying on of hands by way of Accommodation to the Jewish Customs We think when you consider better what you say you will not be of that mind For may it not is well be concluded That the Apostles practised the Baptism of Water by way of Accommodation to the Jewish Customs as appears because the Jews among their Customs had divers washings Heb. 9.10 And is not this as good a proof of the one as yours is of the other 7. And what though the people brought their Children to Christ for him to bless Mat. 19.13 in observation of a Jewish Custom and the Ruler of the Synagogue did the like Mark 5.23 And what if it should be granted that Christ did lay his hands on them to confer Blessings on the one and to heal the other by way of Accommodation to the Jewish Customs Will it follow therefore that his Apostles after his passion● when he had blotted out the hand-writing o● Ordinances nailing them to his Cross Col. 2● 14. Ephes 2.15 and after his Resurrection when he had given them their Commission Mat. 28.19 20. yea and after he was ascended and had sent them according to his Promise the Spirit of Truth which should guide them into all Truth should practise laying on of hands by way of Accommodation to the Jewish Customs and call it a Principle of Christs Doctrine Heb. 6.1 Surely no man in his right mind will so conclude But leaving this too as a Scriptureless-notion we will proceed 8. You then demand Which of all these layings on of hands is intended Heb. 6. and is that which we call a Doctrine of Christ You have been told long since which laying on of hands is intended Heb. 6. that it is that practised by the Apostles Act. 8.17 19.6 for which let the Reader consult Gods Oracle and Christs Doctrine from page 41. to page 54. where this Question is stated by you and answered yea and clearly proved to be that laying on of hands on baptised Believers as such and

do not find it was practised in th● ●ime of Christs life that doth not make invalid what was taught and practised after his Ascension He had many things to say in the time of his life his Disciples could not then bear John 16.12 which he promiseth to instruct them in by his Spirit vers 13 14 15. 2. It being then clear that laying on of hands is a Principle of the Doctrine of Christ it 's not to the thing in hand where when or how Christ taught it but that you will study doubts rather than obedience And whereas you speak of the Doctrine of the holy Spirit if the Truth were known you as little believe it as you practise laying on of hands for the reception of it as will appear hereafter Concluding from what hath been said That laying on of hands is as clear a Principle of Christs Doctrine as any of the other are having the same Authority we refuse and keep no communion with the Disobedient Quest 29. If you say The practice of the Apostles Act. 8.17 plainly shews that they had a Command for what they did We thereupon demand Though we read they baptised Men and Women promiscously yet where do you read they ever laid hands promiscuously upon Men and Women If you shall say It is implied in the word THEM which the Apostles laid their hands upon which were the same THEM that Philip baptised we demand Whether it may not be as truly said that Philip preache● to every Man and Woman in Samaria because it i● said He went to the City of Samaria and preached Christ to them vers 5. And whether i● may not be as well said That every Man and Woman in Samaria believed and were baptised because it is said That Samaria had received the Word of God and was baptized as you may say That because the Church of Jerusalem sent unto Them Peter and John to lay hands on Them that therefore it must be understood they laid hands on every baptised Man and Woman c. Answer 1. We do say the practice of the Apostles Act. 8.17 and elsewhere doth plainly shew that they had received a Command from Christ for what they did and so must you say unless you will say it was their own humane invention And if you think it was practised by them without command from Christ and so their own invention why do you not say so But if you think they had received sufficient Authority from Christ for what they did why do you make opposition against their practice and refuse to follow them as they followed Christ and keep those traditions they delivered 2. But you demand Though we read that they baptised both Men and Women promiscuously yet where do we read they ever laid hands promiscuously upon Men and Women We say it is in so many words said Act. 8.12 they were baptised both Men and Women and no less plain it is that Peter and John prayed and laid their hands upon them both Men and Women For by as good reason may one conclude that Peter and John were sent by the rest of the Apostles but to some of them that believed and were baptised at Samaria as to conclude that Peter and John prayed for and laid hands on but some of them Nor can it be as well said that Philip preached to every Man and Woman in Samaria because it is said that Philip went down to the City of Samaria and preached Christ unto them nor every Man and Woman in Samaria believed and Were baptised though it be said Samaria had received the Word the former being true though he had preach'd but to twenty and the latter though but six believed and were baptised And to conclude all in Samaria were preached to believed and were baptised were not logical indeed but to conclude that Peter and John prayed for and laid hands on the Women that Philip baptised as well as they prayed for and laid their hands on the Men he baptised is Scriptural and Logical because the Women had equal right to the Gift of the Spirit which was the end of that service by vertue of Gods Promise to them as well as to men Joel 2.28 29. Act. 2.17 18. Then is it Scriptural and Logical to conclude that the baptised Women had equal right to the means by which the Spirit was given as well as the baptised Men. 3. So that the Truth is whereas you say That we are so far from having a Command for laying on of hands on all baptised Believers that we have not a plain Example for it you are so far from knowing and believing the Truth that you will not see any Command there is nor Example neither for laying on of hands on baptised Believers as such that you still remain contradicting and putting it from you thereby judging your selves unworthy of the blessing of Gods holy and guiding Spirit which to his praise is receiv'd thereby There being both Command and plain Example from the Apostles which Command they received from Christ and Christ from God his Father See this answered before in Gods Oracle page 47 48 49. 4. But you say Dr. Hamond questioneth which laying on of hands is here intended and saith it is probable it was upon Disciples for the Gift of the Spirit and doth confess there is a difficulty to resolve whether it be for the laying on of hands for Confirmation or Ordination Dr. Hamond and you might conclude that it was not for Ordination had you but consulted Paul to Timothy when he saith A Novice must not be chosen or ordained a Bishop lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the Devil 1 Tim. 3.6 Then could not Peter and John lay hands on the Baptised at Samaria for Ordination because they were but of yesterday newly come to the Faith Moreover the very end of their laying on of hands was That they might receive the holy Ghost Act. 8.15 Now had your learned and judicious Doctor considered these things he would not have said it was difficult to resolve whether the laying on of hands Act. 8.17 was for Confirmation or Ordination 5. But we perceive the Authority of this Doctor goes very far with you that you will believe when he believes and doubt of what he doubts That if he had said there is a Command for laying on of hands and a plain Example peradventure you would say so too For you say And therefore though laying on of hands as we practise it be true yet it is not so infallibly true because it depends upon our Exposition If you had drawn your conclusion right from what was before premised by you it must have been thus Therefore though laying on of hands as we practise it be true yet it is not infallibly true because Dr. Hamond is at a stand about it and saith it is difficult to resolve whether it be for Confirmation or Ordination and not say Because it depends upon our Exposition which