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A41816 The separation of the Church of Rome from the Church of England founded upon a selfish and unchristian interest. By a presbyter in the Diocess of Canterbury. Febr. 28. 1689/90. Imprimatur, Z. Isham, R.P.D. Henrico Episc. Lond à sacris. Grascome, Samuel, 1641-1708? 1691 (1691) Wing G1578A; ESTC R218847 114,589 226

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