zanchius_n report_v of_o archbishop_n and_o bishop_n into_o new_a and_o worse_a latin_a name_n of_o superintendente_n and_o general_a superintendente_n erneste_n the_o duke_n of_o brunswick_n rhegij_fw-la present_o after_o the_o assembly_n of_o augusta_n procure_v vrbanus_n regius_n to_o go_v home_o with_o he_o &_o ecclesiarum_fw-la in_o toto_fw-la ducatu_fw-la episcoparum_fw-la ipsius_fw-la gubernationi_fw-la permisit_fw-la and_o commit_v unto_o his_o government_n the_o bishopric_n 611._o or_o superintendencie_n of_o all_o the_o church_n within_o his_o dukedom_n one_o sydonius_n be_v thrust_v as_o it_o seem_v from_o the_o bishopric_n of_o mersenburge_n as_o cleave_v whole_o to_o popery_n be_v afterwards_o upon_o his_o leave_v of_o the_o pope_n and_o upon_o promise_n make_v to_o maintain_v the_o reformation_n of_o religion_n make_v in_o his_o absence_n restore_v to_o his_o bishopric_n 60._o and_o after_o he_o succeed_v as_o i_o take_v it_o in_o that_o bishopric_n george_n the_o prince_n anhalt_n before_o mention_v be_v choose_v thereunto_o as_o he_o say_v himself_o universo_fw-la capitali_fw-la consensu_fw-la by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a chapter_n he_o have_v be_v bring_v up_o in_o learning_n and_o be_v at_o the_o time_n of_o the_o say_a election_n 630._o a_o priest_n or_o cannon_n in_o the_o cathedral_n church_n of_o mersenburge_n of_o who_o be_v bishop_n henricus_n stenius_n say_v règebat_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la in_o mersenburgensi_fw-la diocaesi_fw-la he_o rule_v the_o church_n in_o the_o diocese_n of_o mersenburge_n and_o again_o praesuit_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la universae_fw-la ditionis_fw-la mysorum_n he_o govern_v the_o church_n of_o all_o the_o dominion_n of_o mysia_n agreeable_a aswell_o to_o these_o example_n as_o to_o the_o say_n of_o zanchius_n before_o specify_v be_v that_o which_o ja_n haerbrandus_fw-la a_o very_a learned_a man_n and_o in_o his_o time_n divinity_n reader_n of_o tubinge_v 699._o write_v in_o his_o common_a place_n debent_fw-la gradus_fw-la esse_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o aught_o to_o be_v degree_n amongst_o minister_n etc._n etc._n as_o with_o we_o in_o the_o duchy_n of_o wirtenberge_n there_o be_v subdeacons_n deacon_n pastor_n special_a superintendente_n and_o over_o they_o general_a superintendente_n and_o in_o another_o place_n the_o same_o haerbrand_n show_v his_o judgement_n general_o 699._o saluberrimum_fw-la esset_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v a_o most_o profitable_a order_n for_o the_o welfare_n of_o the_o church_n if_o every_o particular_a province_n have_v her_o bishop_n and_o the_o bishop_n their_o archbishop_n and_o jacobus_n andreas_n he_o be_v much_o of_o the_o same_o opinion_n as_o certain_a minister_n of_o heidelberge_n do_v report_n uz_o 8._o where_o he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v a_o difficult_a matter_n to_o defend_v the_o peaceable_a estate_n of_o church_n except_o there_o be_v some_o chief_a ruler_n and_o bishop_n amongst_o they_o to_o who_o rerum_fw-la summa_fw-la deferatur_fw-la the_o full_a order_n of_o matter_n may_v be_v refer_v to_o this_o purpose_n in_o like_a sort_n osiander_n write_v even_o as_o though_o he_o have_v speak_v of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 10_o although_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n when_o she_o flourish_v with_o miracle_n there_o be_v diverse_a degree_n and_o order_n of_o minister_n some_o apostle_n some_o prophet_n some_o evangelist_n and_o some_o pastor_n and_o doctor_n yet_o as_o now_o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n be_v the_o minister_n may_v be_v divide_v into_o three_o order_n or_o degree_n uz_o deacon_n pastor_n and_o superintendente_n etc._n etc._n to_o the_o pastor_n particular_a church_n be_v commit_v nec_fw-la dubitatur_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o it_o be_v not_o doubt_v but_o that_o every_o one_o of_o they_o may_v rule_v the_o church_n commit_v unto_o he_o sine_fw-la collegae_fw-la concilio_fw-la without_o the_o council_n of_o any_o fellow_n those_o pastor_n we_o call_v superintendent_o who_o be_v so_o set_v over_o other_o pastor_n that_o they_o may_v visit_v the_o state_n of_o their_o church_n and_o punish_v both_o the_o pastor_n and_o the_o people_n if_o any_o thing_n be_v do_v amiss_o or_o if_o any_o thing_n fall_v out_o that_o they_o can_v correct_v than_o they_o refer_v it_o unto_o a_o high_a court_n consist_v of_o divine_v and_o politic_a man_n who_o by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n authority_n or_o approbation_n do_v amend_v such_o defect_n etc._n etc._n hemingius_n also_o affirm_v eccle_n that_o there_o be_v dispares_fw-la dignitatis_fw-la gradus_fw-la in_o the_o ministry_n &_o that_o partly_o by_o the_o law_n of_o cod_n &_o partly_o by_o the_o approbation_n of_o the_o church_n that_o as_o christ_n ascend_v into_o heaven_n give_v gift_n unto_o man_n apostle_n prophet_n evangelist_n doctor_n and_o pastor_n so_o he_o give_v to_o the_o church_n authority_n for_o edification_n that_o the_o church_n by_o virtue_n of_o that_o power_n ordain_v minister_n for_o her_o profit_n that_o the_o pure_a church_n follow_v the_o apostle_n time_n ordain_v some_o patriarch_n some_o bishop_n etc._n etc._n some_o pastor_n and_o some_o catechist_n etc._n etc._n that_o the_o reform_a church_n have_v their_o bishop_n doctors_z pastor_n and_o under_o they_o chaplain_n we_o call_v they_o curate_n as_o i_o think_v that_o the_o church_n in_o denmark_n do_v acknowledge_v degree_n of_o dignity_n among_o minister_n that_o they_o judge_v it_o meet_v that_o other_o minister_n shall_v obey_v their_o bishop_n in_o allthing_n which_o tend_v to_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o church_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n &_o the_o profitable_a government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o they_o judge_v bb_n s._n to_o have_v authority_n over_o other_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n ius_fw-la non_fw-la despoticum_fw-la sed_fw-la patrium_fw-la jeremia_n hombergus_fw-la a_o worthy_a man_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n about_o styria_n carinthia_n and_o carniola_n but_o now_o remove_v thence_o through_o the_o persecution_n which_o the_o jesuit_n have_v kindle_v in_o those_o part_n affirm_v in_o his_o common_a place_n of_o divinity_n review_v &_o allow_v at_o ratisbone_n with_o very_o direct_a term_n ministerio_fw-la that_o god_n himself_o have_v appoint_v degree_n of_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n even_o amongst_o those_o which_o have_v a_o mediate_a call_n ut_fw-la concordia_fw-la inter_fw-la ministros_fw-la conseruetur_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o concord_n among_o minister_n may_v be_v preserve_v &_o the_o work_n of_o their_o ministry_n perform_v more_o easy_o and_o more_o decent_o and_o after_o he_o have_v specify_v the_o common_a duty_n both_o of_o bishop_n and_o minister_n he_o set_v down_o those_o which_o he_o think_v be_v peculiar_a to_o bishop_n and_o to_o be_v execute_v by_o they_o uz_o excommunication_n ordination_n and_o confirmation_n and_o with_o he_o agree_v the_o divinity_n reader_n at_o lavinge_v phill._n haylbronner_n eccle_n write_v upon_o the_o first_o epistle_n of_o s._n paul_n to_o timothy_n where_o he_o show_v that_o the_o apostle_n appoint_v timothy_n to_o be_v bishop_n of_o ephesus_n that_o according_o there_o be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v degree_n and_o order_n of_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n &_o have_v describe_v the_o common_a duty_n likewise_o of_o all_o minister_n general_o he_o say_v thus_o episcopus_fw-la etc._n etc._n beside_o the_o say_v common_a office_n to_o bishop_n be_v commend_v the_o public_a oversight_n and_o government_n so_o as_o it_o belong_v to_o they_o to_o appoint_v fit_a minister_n for_o the_o church_n near_o they_o also_o to_o hear_v the_o accusation_n and_o complaint_n which_o be_v make_v against_o the_o pastor_n of_o their_o church_n and_o to_o decide_v they_o etc._n etc._n sic_fw-la enim_fw-la paulus_n scribit_fw-la timotheo_n ephesorum_fw-la episcopo_fw-la for_o so_o paul_n write_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o ephesus_n lay_v thy_o hand_n rash_o upon_o no_o man_n and_o against_o a_o priest_n admit_v not_o a_o accusation_n etc._n etc._n of_o the_o same_o judgement_n in_o like_a sort_n be_v egidius_n hunius_n the_o divinity_n professor_n at_o marpurge_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o s._n paul_n epistle_n to_o titus_n he_o affirm_v that_o the_o apostle_n appoint_v titus_n the_o general_a superintendent_n for_o the_o government_n over_o the_o church_n of_o that_o large_a and_o noble_a island_n of_o crete_n that_o his_o duty_n be_v to_o ordain_v pastor_n in_o every_o parish_n and_o likewise_o to_o make_v bishop_n that_o the_o bishop_n or_o superintendent_n have_v his_o diocese_n the_o pastor_n his_o parish_n or_o church_n as_o paul_n command_v titus_n to_o place_n priest_n in_o every_o parish_n that_o thereby_o it_o appear_v god_n do_v require_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v order_n and_o degree_n amongst_o minister_n ut_fw-la alij_fw-la praesint_fw-la alij_fw-la subsint_fw-la that_o some_o may_v rule_v and_o some_o obey_v that_o this_o order_n be_v not_o new_o devise_v but_o receive_v in_o the_o church_n from_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o that_o god_n himself_o make_v a_o distinction_n between_o minister_n and_o appoint_v degree_n according_a to_o that_o he_o give_v some_o apostle_n
every_o king_n &_o prince_n be_v as_o he_o say_v a_o new_a pope_n by_o that_o mean_n &_o much_o worse_a than_o the_o old_a so_o that_o hereby_o you_o see_v what_o be_v the_o drift_n of_o our_o factious_a consistorian_n in_o labour_v to_o make_v the_o name_n of_o the_o canon_n law_n odious_a you_o may_v not_o think_v that_o they_o differ_v in_o substance_n from_o their_o m._n viretus_fw-la but_o they_o be_v grow_v more_o crafty_a the_o matter_n that_o pinch_v they_o be_v this_o that_o in_o the_o act_n of_o parliament_n which_o be_v in_o force_n there_o be_v ever_o a_o proviso_n that_o nothing_o thereof_o shall_v be_v in_o force_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o law_n of_o this_o realm_n or_o to_o the_o prerogative_n royal_a of_o the_o prince_n if_o ever_o any_o k._n in_o england_n shall_v be_v so_o far_o seduce_v as_o that_o he_o will_v yield_v to_o establish_v their_o counterfeit_a eldership_n in_o this_o realm_n with_o all_o the_o royal_a authority_n which_o they_o challenge_v of_o right_a to_o belong_v unto_o they_o &_o change_v the_o two_o former_a proviso_n shall_v enact_v it_o that_o all_o the_o canon-law_n shall_v be_v in_o force_n save_v so_o much_o as_o shall_v be_v contrary_a to_o the_o order_n &_o prerogative_n of_o their_o eldership_n if_o i_o shall_v then_o be_v alive_a as_o i_o trust_v i_o shall_v not_o i_o dare_v before_o hand_n hazard_v a_o great_a wager_n upon_o it_o that_o they_o will_v most_o ready_o &_o with_o a_o great_a applause_n receive_v it_o &_o almost_o worship_v it_o for_o as_o i_o say_v you_o may_v not_o imagine_v but_o that_o viretus_fw-la have_v disclose_v their_o very_a heart_n you_o know_v quire_n there_o be_v in_o every_o church_n for_o the_o most_o part_n a_o distinction_n of_o place_n betwixt_o the_o clergy_n &_o the_o laity_n we_o term_v one_o place_n the_o chancel_n &_o the_o other_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n which_o manner_n of_o distinction_n do_v great_o offend_v the_o tender_a conscience_n forsooth_o of_o the_o pure_a sort_n of_o our_o reformer_n dialog_n insomuch_o as_o m._n gilby_n a_o chief_a man_n in_o his_o time_n among_o they_o do_v term_v the_o choir_n a_o cage_n &_o reckon_v that_o separation_n of_o the_o minister_n from_o the_o congregation_n one_o of_o the_o hundred_o point_n of_o popery_n which_o he_o affirm_v do_v yet_o remain_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n howbeit_o admit_v but_o of_o their_o eldership_n into_o every_o parish_n &_o they_o you_o have_v they_o who_o will_v prove_v it_o out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v such_o a_o separation_n of_o their_o alderman_n every_o one_o of_o they_o though_o he_o be_v but_o a_o cobbler_n from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o idiot_n that_o be_v all_o the_o other_o parishioner_n of_o what_o state_n soever_o hic_fw-la or_o do_v in_o ecclesia_fw-la seruetur_fw-la etc._n etc._n 24._o let_v this_o order_n be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n say_v danaeus_n &_o he_o send_v we_o the_o rule_n from_o geneva_n that_o these_o who_o do_v bear_v any_o office_n in_o the_o church_n distinguantur_fw-la et_fw-la separentur_fw-la a_o reliquo_fw-la populo_fw-la may_v be_v distinguish_v &_o separate_v from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o people_n etc._n etc._n it_o a_o fieri_fw-la decorum_n est_fw-la et_fw-la utile_fw-la for_o it_o be_v decent_a &_o profitable_a that_o it_o shall_v be_v so_o the_o bishop_n he_o mean_v every_o minister_n must_v stand_v or_o sit_v eminente_fw-la loco_fw-la aloft_o etc._n etc._n and_o let_v the_o elder_n sit_v by_o he_o tum_fw-la ut_fw-la populo_fw-la appareant_fw-la that_o the_o people_n may_v behold_v they_o tum_fw-la ut_fw-la ministri_fw-la concionantis_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la facilius_fw-la intelligant_fw-la et_fw-la obseruent_fw-la and_o that_o they_o may_v the_o more_o easy_o hear_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o minister_n preach_v and_o the_o better_a mark_v it_o for_o of_o likelihood_n they_o be_v to_o be_v the_o preacher_n censor_n you_o will_v say_v peradventure_o where_o there_o be_v some_o l._n mayor_n some_o councillor_n of_o state_n or_o some_o other_o great_a magistrate_n nay_o the_o king_n himself_o for_o he_o must_v be_v of_o some_o parish_n where_o shall_v he_o or_o any_o of_o they_o sit_v that_o be_v wise_o provide_v for_o i_o warrant_v you_o for_o how_o shall_v it_o otherwise_o be_v ibidem_fw-la see_v the_o proviso_n come_v from_o geneva_n magistratus_fw-la pius_fw-la etc._n etc._n let_v the_o godly_a magistrate_n who_o be_v a_o honourable_a member_n of_o the_o church_n sit_v in_o a_o honourable_a and_o perspicuous_a place_n where_o the_o church_n may_v neither_o seem_v to_o favour_n the_o arrogancy_n and_o pride_n of_o man_n nor_o the_o contempt_n of_o magistrate_n and_o great_a discretion_n therein_o sure_o if_o the_o magistrate_n shall_v sit_v too_o high_a it_o will_v make_v he_o proud_a if_o too_o low_a it_o will_v bring_v he_o into_o contempt_n ergo_fw-la modus_fw-la in_o loco_fw-la illi_fw-la concedendo_fw-la seruetur_fw-la &c_n &c_n therefore_o let_v a_o mean_a be_v keep_v in_o appoint_v of_o a_o place_n unto_o he_o knight_n lord_n earl_n duke_n king_n or_o emperor_n the_o holy_a discipline_n respect_v not_o man_n person_n that_o he_o may_v both_o understand_v he_o be_v prefer_v before_o the_o rest_n and_o yet_o withal_o that_o he_o have_v no_o dominion_n over_o the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o deed_n excess_n in_o any_o thing_n be_v nought_o sedeat_fw-la itaque_fw-la inferiori_fw-la subsellio_n let_v he_o therefore_o sit_v in_o a_o low_a seat_n than_o the_o preacher_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o the_o prophet_n that_o he_o may_v both_o see_v and_o acknowledge_v himself_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o threat_n of_o the_o word_n the_o parson_n or_o bishop_n of_o every_o parish_n with_o his_o artisan_n elder_n must_v sit_v in_o the_o high_a place_n that_o the_o people_n may_v feed_v themselves_o with_o the_o sight_n of_o they_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n of_o what_o degree_n soever_o must_v content_v themselves_o with_o inferior_a room_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o people_n be_v to_o sit_v super_fw-la matta_n &_o sedilia_fw-la inferiora_fw-la upon_o pess_n and_o little_a low_a form_n i_o be_o persuade_v it_o will_v great_o trouble_v the_o subject_n of_o england_n to_o see_v such_o a_o metamorphosis_n in_o her_o majesty_n chapel_n but_o see_v what_o a_o notable_a thing_n discipline_n be_v and_o how_o the_o minister_n of_o geneva_n can_v play_v the_o herald_n in_o marshal_v of_o every_o state_n into_o their_o due_a place_n according_a to_o their_o calling_n if_o these_o man_n be_v then_o in_o england_n and_o shall_v survey_v our_o quire_n i_o suppose_v nothing_o will_v offend_v they_o but_o that_o that_o they_o be_v too_o low_a the_o place_n where_o the_o roodeloft_n be_v will_v be_v think_v peradventure_o more_o suitable_a for_o their_o elder_n indeed_o there_o the_o people_n may_v best_o behold_v they_o last_o 112_o because_o i_o will_v end_v this_o chapter_n if_o cartwright_n can_v get_v but_o one_o scholiast_n that_o do_v in_o show_n make_v for_o any_o thing_n he_o like_v it_o be_v notable_a to_o see_v what_o revel_a he_o make_v with_o it_o and_o in_o like_a sort_n master_n beza_n when_o the_o father_n do_v fit_a he_o as_o in_o some_o point_v they_o do_v against_o erastus_n 12_o then_o these_o manner_n of_o phrase_n be_v common_a rectè_fw-la obseruavit_fw-la augustinus_n augustine_n well_o observe_v it_o etc._n etc._n again_o a_o vero_fw-la chrys._n etc._n etc._n what_o do_v you_o think_v that_o chrysostome_n and_o all_o the_o old_a church_n 24_o not_o one_o except_v see_v not_o this_o again_o hic_fw-la te_fw-la obtestamur_fw-la frater_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o do_v here_o beseech_v you_o brother_n that_o you_o will_v well_o consider_v in_o who_o behalf_n and_o against_o who_o you_o dispute_v cum_fw-la rem_fw-la ipsam_fw-la ab_fw-la usu_fw-la non_fw-la distinguas_fw-la when_o you_o distinguish_v not_o the_o thing_n itself_o from_o the_o abuse_n of_o it_o ibidem_fw-la again_o haec_fw-la chrysostomus_n 27._o quae_fw-la tibi_fw-la satisfacere_fw-la rectè_fw-la debent_fw-la these_o thing_n chrysostome_n affirm_v which_o ought_v to_o satisfy_v you_o full_o again_o nunquam_fw-la aliter_fw-la fuit_fw-la hic_fw-la locus_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la explicatus_fw-la 25._o this_o place_n be_v never_o otherwise_o expound_v in_o the_o church_n and_o again_o a_o temporibus_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la ad_fw-la haec_fw-la usque_fw-la secula_fw-la nunquam_fw-la illa_fw-la caruerunt_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la from_o the_o apostle_n time_n even_o unto_o the_o age_n wherein_o we_o live_v the_o church_n do_v never_o want_v authority_n of_o excommunication_n and_o as_o at_o time_n they_o be_v content_a to_o accept_v of_o the_o father_n so_o will_v they_o also_o upon_o the_o like_a occasion_n allow_v of_o general_a counsel_n whereas_o certain_a person_n in_o transiluania_n begin_v to_o revive_v diverse_a old_a heresy_n about_o the_o person_n of_o christ_n master_n beza_n write_v in_o this_o sort_n an_fw-mi non_fw-la in_o
mentem_fw-la vobis_fw-la veniebat_fw-la amplissimus_fw-la ille_fw-la nicenae_n etc._n etc._n â—_o do_v you_o not_o remember_v the_o most_o worthy_a assembly_n of_o nice_a of_o ephesus_n of_o chalcedon_n quo_fw-la nihil_fw-la un_fw-fr quam_fw-la sanctius_fw-la nihil_fw-la augustius_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la excessu_fw-la sol_fw-la unquam_fw-la aspexit_fw-la the_o son_n itself_o have_v never_o behold_v since_o the_o apostle_n departure_n out_o of_o this_o world_n any_o thing_n that_o be_v more_o holy_a or_o more_o excellent_a than_o those_o assembly_n be_v thus_o i_o say_v both_o beza_n cartwright_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o disciplinarie_a humour_n do_v write_v both_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o of_o the_o old_a counsel_n when_o they_o please_v they_o in_o any_o matter_n but_o otherwise_o let_v any_o of_o they_o all_o nay_o joint_o all_o of_o they_o together_o impugn_v any_o part_n of_o the_o new_a pretend_a discipline_n or_o cross_v they_o there_o oh_o they_o touch_v the_o apple_n of_o every_o one_o of_o their_o eye_n they_o care_v not_o for_o their_o authority_n they_o despise_v their_o decree_n they_o can_v endure_v they_o as_o now_o it_o shall_v be_v show_v in_o the_o next_o chapter_n follow_v chap._n xxvii_o how_o they_o deal_v with_o the_o ancient_a father_n ecclesiastical_a history_n and_o general_a counsel_n when_o they_o be_v allege_v against_o they_o when_o for_o the_o proof_n of_o sundry_a matter_n impugn_a by_o they_o they_o be_v urge_v with_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a history_n they_o either_o shift_v they_o off_o with_o their_o own_o false_a gloss_n w._n or_o if_o that_o serve_v not_o their_o turn_n they_o disgrace_v they_o as_o much_o as_o they_o can_v and_o so_o reject_v they_o where_o ignatius_n ascribe_v very_o much_o to_o a_o bishop_n as_o that_o nothing_o shall_v be_v do_v in_o the_o church_n without_o his_o consent_n and_o say_v that_o he_o have_v a_o principality_n and_o power_n over_o all_o ascribe_v unto_o he_o in_o that_o respect_n the_o title_n of_o prince_n of_o priest_n they_o expound_v the_o word_n 517._o priest_n to_o signify_v both_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o roll_a elder_n the_o say_a power_n over_o all_o to_o extend_v but_o only_o to_o the_o say_a kind_n of_o priest_n in_o one_o parish_n 110._o and_o the_o name_n prince_n to_o mean_v no_o more_o but_o as_o it_o be_v a_o moderator_n choose_v out_o of_o those_o minister_n for_o one_o meeting_n only_o to_o propound_v such_o matter_n as_o be_v then_o to_o be_v handle_v to_o collect_v the_o voice_n and_o to_o moderate_a that_o action_n which_o interpretation_n be_v only_o frame_v according_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o geneva_n and_o such_o great_a church_n as_o cartwright_n term_v they_o which_o have_v say_v he_o diverse_a minister_n and_o roll_a elder_n in_o they_o tralli_n and_o be_v god_n know_v as_o far_o from_o ignatius_n meaning_n and_o word_n as_o falsehood_n be_v from_o the_o truth_n and_o yet_o either_o thus_o he_o must_v speak_v or_o else_o if_o you_o press_v they_o further_o 622._o than_o they_o shall_v well_o like_v of_o the_o poor_a old_a father_n be_v straight_o way_n reject_v as_o a_o counterfeit_n and_o a_o vain_a man_n it_o be_v show_v according_a to_o ireneus_fw-la word_n 63._o uz._n that_o the_o apostle_n commit_v the_o church_n in_o every_o place_n to_o the_o bishop_n and_o that_o every_o one_o of_o the_o apostle_n several_o do_v appoint_v bishop_n in_o those_o church_n which_o they_o have_v plant_v as_o s._n paul_n do_v at_o ephesus_n and_o creta_n 482_o cartwright_n answer_v thus_o for_o the_o explosition_n of_o ireneus_fw-la 155._o which_o interprete_v they_o every_o one_o several_o if_o they_o several_o ordain_v bishop_n every_o one_o in_o his_o circuit_n so_o it_o be_v understand_v with_o the_o church_n consent_n as_o be_v before_o declare_v i_o be_o well_o content_a be_v you_o so_o sure_o it_o be_v great_a joy_n of_o you_o and_o what_o be_v before_o declare_v forsooth_o master_n beza_n in_o effect_n say_v tit._n that_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o appoint_v any_o bishop_n that_o be_v any_o pastor_n doctor_n or_o rule_v elder_a by_o their_o own_o authority_n but_o the_o choice_n of_o every_o church-officer_n be_v first_o make_v by_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a parish_n then_o any_o apostle_n that_o be_v present_a do_v consecrat_v the_o say_a party_n so_o choose_v unto_o the_o lord_n by_o lay_v his_o hand_n upon_o he_o nomine_fw-la presbyterij_fw-la in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o presbytery_n this_o be_v then_o the_o issue_n that_o ireneus_fw-la must_v stand_v to_o except_o he_o will_v frame_v his_o speech_n after_o the_o new_a cut_v even_o according_a to_o bezaes_n pleasure_n cartwright_n you_o see_v will_v not_o allow_v he_o if_o he_o be_v now_o alive_a he_o may_v well_o think_v scorn_n to_o be_v thus_o use_v by_o either_o of_o they_o both_o contrary_a to_o his_o own_o meaning_n justinus_n martyr_n w._n be_v bring_v to_o witness_v for_o bishop_n and_o their_o authority_n in_o his_o time_n about_o the_o year_n 130._o which_o be_v some_o nine_o year_n after_o saint_n johns_n death_n where_o he_o call_v every_o such_o b._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v prelate_n because_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o ministry_n &_o people_n within_o his_o circuit_n appertain_v chief_o to_o his_o charge_n cartwright_n term_v this_o seek_n into_o the_o father_n writing_n to_o find_v out_o the_o historical_a truth_n of_o this_o cause_n so_o much_o by_o he_o impugn_a he_o rake_v in_o ditch_n 114_o and_o labour_v in_o this_o sort_n to_o rid_v his_o hand_n of_o he_o say_v first_o this_o prelate_n be_v but_o as_o a_o moderator_n to_o propound_v matter_n etc._n etc._n second_o that_o he_o be_v prelate_n of_o the_o people_n not_o of_o the_o minister_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o his_o first_o exception_n except_o he_o will_v say_v the_o people_n have_v then_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n amongst_o who_o he_o shall_v be_v moderator_n which_o be_v observe_v as_o i_o think_v by_o beza_n he_o allege_v this_o place_n of_o justinus_n 5.19_o to_o prove_v timothy_n in_o ephesino_n presbyterio_n fuisse_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id_fw-la est_fw-la antistes_fw-la ut_fw-la vocat_fw-la justinus_n to_o have_v be_v prelate_n in_o his_o pretend_a eldership_n at_o ephesus_n cartwright_n have_v also_o a_o third_o answer_n in_o his_o second_o book_n 621_o be_v it_o grant_v that_o justinus_n precedent_n have_v superioritye_n over_o the_o minister_n yet_o how_o fondlye_a be_v it_o conclude_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a because_o it_o be_v but_o his_o main_a barricado_n for_o defence_n be_v this_o in_o the_o day_n that_o justine_n live_v there_o begin_v to_o peep_v out_o in_o the_o ministry_n some_o thing_n which_o go_v from_o the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o that_o the_o name_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v common_a to_o the_o elder_n with_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n 114_o be_v as_o it_o seem_v appropriate_v unto_o one_o for_o the_o proof_n of_o the_o antiquity_n of_o bishop_n w._n jeromes_n testimony_n be_v bring_v that_o at_o alexandria_n from_o saint_n mark_v the_o evangelist_n euagrium_n there_o be_v a_o bishop_n place_v in_o a_o high_a degree_n above_o priest_n as_o it_o be_v a_o captain_n over_o a_o army_n about_o which_o word_n they_o busy_v themselves_o wonderful_o first_o say_v they_o thing_n be_v order_v then_o by_o the_o suffrage_n of_o the_o minister_n and_o elder_n 107_o it_o may_v as_o it_o fall_v out_o oftentimes_o be_v do_v without_o the_o approbation_n of_o saint_n mark_v how_o it_o fall_v out_o amongst_o they_o it_o be_v no_o great_a matter_n that_o they_o shall_v ever_o agree_v be_v more_o to_o be_v marvel_v but_o to_o lay_v such_o a_o imputation_n upon_o that_o church_n saint_n mark_v himself_o be_v present_a i_o think_v it_o a_o lewd_a part_n and_o too_o full_a of_o presumption_n beside_o saint_n mark_n may_v have_v appeal_v by_o their_o conceit_n unto_o some_o classis_fw-la if_o he_o have_v dislike_v that_o ordinance_n but_o if_o this_o shift_n will_v not_o serve_v then_o they_o have_v another_o that_o the_o word_n from_o saint_n mark_n may_v be_v rather_o take_v exclusive_o to_o shut_v out_o saint_n mark_v and_o the_o time_n wherein_o he_o live_v then_o inclusive_o to_o shut_v he_o in_o the_o time_n wherein_o this_o distinction_n rise_v matt_n wherein_o he_o show_v his_o ignorance_n for_o jerome_n call_v saint_n mark_v the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n in_o the_o end_n he_o use_v this_o fond_a quirk_n it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o say_fw-ge ct_a jerome_n say_v it_o be_v so_o in_o alexandria_n signify_v thereby_o that_o in_o other_o church_n it_o be_v not_o so_o and_o we_o be_v rather_o to_o follow_v jerusalem_n that_o keep_v christ_n institution_n than_o alexandria_n that_o depart_v from_o it_o
call_v it_o ecclesia_fw-la that_o be_v the_o church_n very_o well_o any_o thing_n will_v content_v i_o howbeit_o for_o aught_o i_o know_v there_o be_v no_o cause_n why_o it_o may_v not_o have_v please_v our_o saviour_n christ_n if_o he_o have_v conceive_v so_o notable_a a_o like_n of_o that_o jewish_a platform_n but_o that_o he_o may_v also_o have_v retain_v the_o old_a name_n and_o so_o have_v make_v no_o alteration_n at_o all_o the_o author_n of_o the_o book_n of_o discipline_n have_v as_o it_o shall_v seem_v some_o such_o like_a consideration_n in_o his_o head_n or_o what_o other_o i_o know_v not_o and_o think_v scorn_n as_o i_o guess_v to_o run_v to_o the_o jew_n talmud_n for_o a_o name_n for_o this_o regiment_n be_v not_o afraid_a to_o dissent_v from_o caluin_n beza_n his_o old_a tutor_n cartwright_n and_o a_o number_n of_o other_o his_o good_a master_n here_o in_o say_v obseruandum_fw-la est_fw-la unà cum_fw-la re_fw-la ipsa_fw-la nomen_fw-la etiam_fw-la a_o judaeis_n ad_fw-la nos_fw-la translatum_fw-la esse_fw-la it_o be_v here_o to_o be_v observe_v that_o together_o with_o the_o thing_n itself_o 124._o the_o very_a name_n also_o be_v translate_v unto_o we_o from_o the_o jew_n and_o what_o name_n be_v that_o forsooth_o say_v he_o nomen_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v congregation_n or_o church_n saepius_fw-la apud_fw-la mosen_n certis_fw-la &_o delectis_fw-la viris_fw-la tribuitur_fw-la qui_fw-la a_o toâ—a_fw-la congregatione_fw-la adres_n obeundas_fw-la designarentur_fw-la be_v often_o give_v by_o moses_n unto_o a_o certain_a number_n of_o choose_a man_n that_o be_v to_o be_v appoint_v by_o the_o whole_a congregation_n to_o deal_v in_o sundry_a affair_n so_o as_o by_o this_o fellow_n say_v christ_n make_v no_o alteration_n at_o all_o when_o he_o say_v dic_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la tell_v the_o church_n but_o keep_v even_o the_o old_a name_n of_o it_o uz_o which_o it_o have_v before_o give_v unto_o it_o by_o moses_n how_o blind_a then_o be_v beza_n cartwright_n and_o the_o rest_n that_o they_o can_v not_o find_v this_o proper_a name_n of_o their_o sovereignty_n in_o all_o the_o old_a testament_n 16.18_o but_o be_v fain_o to_o fly_v to_o the_o talmud_n but_o will_v beza_n think_v you_o take_v this_o at_o his_o hand_n no_o i_o warrant_v you_o for_o say_v he_o vocabulo_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la significari_fw-la civium_fw-la conventum_fw-la nemo_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la ignoret_fw-la etc._n etc._n haebrei_fw-it 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d vocant_fw-la sed_fw-la postea_fw-la communis_fw-la loquendi_fw-la consuetudo_fw-la fecit_fw-la ut_fw-la pro_fw-la eorum_fw-la caetu_fw-la accipiatur_fw-la qui_fw-la christum_n profitentur_fw-la there_o be_v no_o man_n ignorant_a that_o the_o word_n ecclesia_fw-la do_v signify_v a_o assembly_n of_o citizen_n the_o hebrew_n do_v call_v it_o a_o assembly_n or_o company_n meet_v together_o but_o afterward_o by_o custom_n it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o it_o be_v take_v for_o the_o assembly_n of_o they_o that_o do_v profess_v christ._n which_o custom_n i_o hope_v it_o will_v be_v confess_v do_v begin_v about_o christ_n time_n and_o not_o in_o moses_n time_n and_o then_o the_o disciplinarian_a traverser_n be_v very_o well_o serve_v for_o his_o sauciness_n in_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o proceed_v further_o than_o his_o say_a master_n have_v give_v he_o in_o commission_n but_o howsoever_o these_o fellow_n will_v agree_v among_o themselves_o i_o think_v a_o man_n may_v be_v bold_a by_o their_o place_n of_o matthew_n to_o call_v their_o parochial_a regiment_n 1â—_n by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n for_o they_o all_o will_v confess_v that_o christ_n call_v it_o so_o and_o then_o it_o will_v follow_v by_o their_o ground_n that_o every_o parish_n or_o church_n must_v have_v a_o new_a church_n erect_v in_o it_o which_o new_a church_n must_v have_v authority_n to_o command_v &_o censure_v the_o old_a and_o so_o one_o church_n must_v be_v over_o another_o yea_o but_o say_v beza_n in_o effect_n we_o be_v rather_o to_o follow_v the_o apostle_n in_o this_o point_n then_o christ._n that_o which_o he_o call_v church_n mean_v the_o synedrium_fw-la that_o be_v council_n the_o apostle_n call_v presbyterium_fw-la 119._o eldership_n quod_fw-la christus_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la iam_fw-la mutato_fw-la synagogae_fw-la vel_fw-la synedrij_fw-la nomine_fw-la appellarat_fw-la paulus_n presbyterium_fw-la nominauni_fw-la that_o which_o christ_n call_v the_o church_n change_v the_o name_n of_o synagoge_n or_o council_n paul_n call_v eldership_n again_o quod_fw-la judaei_n synedrium_fw-la christiani_n presbyterium_fw-la teste_fw-la apostolo_n vocarant_a that_o which_o the_o jew_n call_v council_n the_o christian_n as_o the_o apostle_n witness_v call_v eldership_n and_o why_o beza_n will_v blush_v if_o he_o can_v not_o give_v a_o reason_n for_o any_o thing_n idcirco_fw-la fortassis_fw-la potius_fw-la quam_fw-la synedrium_fw-la ne_fw-la qua_fw-la pateret_fw-la calumniandi_fw-la occasio_fw-la 36._o quasi_fw-la christiani_n statum_fw-la publicum_fw-la turbare_fw-la &_o de_fw-la magistratuum_fw-la authoritate_fw-la ac_fw-la iurisdictione_n quicquam_fw-la ad_fw-la se_fw-la protrahere_fw-la vellent_fw-la the_o apostle_n peradventure_o call_v this_o regiment_n rather_o eldership_n than_o council_n lest_o there_o may_v be_v give_v thereby_o some_o occasion_n of_o slander_v as_o though_o the_o christian_n have_v purpose_v to_o have_v trouble_v the_o public_a state_n and_o to_o have_v take_v to_o themselves_o some_o part_n of_o the_o magistrate_n authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n well_o and_o be_v we_o yet_o come_v to_o a_o issue_n how_o we_o may_v call_v this_o form_n of_o government_n shall_v we_o term_v it_o the_o eldership_n no_o sure_o if_o we_o will_v follow_v some_o other_o reform_v church_n which_o be_v so_o oft_o commend_v unto_o us._n presbyterium_fw-la vocare_fw-la consistorium_fw-la apud_fw-la nos_fw-la mos_fw-la est_fw-la 110._o it_o be_v the_o manner_n and_o fashion_n with_o we_o at_o geneva_n say_v beza_n to_o call_v the_o eldership_n a_o consistory_n with_o who_o agree_v i.b._n the_o superintendent_n as_o it_o be_v think_v of_o the_o italian_a church_n in_o london_n saying_n although_o we_o have_v in_o our_o church_n the_o same_o order_n which_o the_o apostle_n ordain_v 170._o yet_o we_o have_v change_v the_o name_n of_o eldership_n &_o do_v call_v it_o now_o by_o another_o name_n uz_o consistory_n and_o good_a reason_n it_o be_v so_o call_v at_o geneva_n the_o apostle_n call_v it_o eldership_n but_o yet_o they_o dispense_n with_o that_o point_n do_v call_v it_o as_o they_o listen_v man_n no_o doubt_n of_o a_o sovereign_a prerogative_n but_o to_o proceed_v it_o shall_v seem_v that_o as_o these_o man_n have_v change_v the_o name_n of_o eldership_n into_o consistory_n so_o have_v other_o in_o some_o place_n do_v it_o into_o synod_n 231._o against_o both_o which_o sort_n bannosius_n in_o his_o long_a and_o tedious_a disciplinarian_a discourse_n be_v very_o bold_a to_o write_v his_o mind_n that_o it_o ought_v rather_o to_o be_v call_v eldership_n then_o either_o synod_n or_o consistory_n 80_o and_o that_o for_o two_o reason_n uz_o first_o because_o some_o man_n do_v not_o distinguish_v sufficient_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o christian_n from_o the_o synod_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o second_o because_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o rome_n ibidem_fw-la do_v call_v their_o presbyterium_fw-la eldership_n consistorium_fw-la a_o consistory_n from_o all_o these_o as_o i_o suppose_v many_o of_o the_o french_a church_n or_o at_o the_o least_o that_o of_o heidelberge_n do_v dissent_v for_o thus_o junius_n 3._o late_o a_o chief_a ruler_n there_o write_v concilium_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la senatumue_n appellamus_fw-la quod_fw-la paulus_n presbyterium_fw-la that_o which_o paul_n call_v the_o eldership_n we_o call_v the_o council_n of_o the_o church_n or_o the_o senate_n and_o so_o the_o elder_n there_o be_v senator_n which_o name_n both_o of_o senate_n and_z senators_z say_v beza_n ut_fw-la civilibus_fw-la dignitatibus_fw-la cowenientius_fw-la &_o calumniae_fw-la obnoxium_fw-la 112._o videtur_fw-la study_v quodam_fw-la vetus_fw-la purior_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la in_o occidente_fw-la repudiasse_n as_o be_v proper_a to_o civil_a dignity_n and_o subject_a to_o slander_v the_o old_a pure_a church_n in_o the_o west_n do_v seem_v of_o purpose_n to_o have_v reject_v and_o bannosius_n affirm_v that_o the_o reason_n that_o move_v those_o where_o he_o be_v to_o call_v the_o eldership_n a_o consistory_n be_v quod_fw-la nomen_fw-la minus_fw-la odiosum_fw-la quam_fw-la senatus_n esset_fw-la because_o it_o be_v a_o name_n less_o odious_a than_o the_o name_n of_o senate_n you_o have_v hear_v also_o before_o out_o of_o beza_n that_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o refuse_v the_o name_n of_o synedrium_fw-la as_o be_v all_o one_o with_o council_n or_o senate_n for_o the_o same_o respect_n but_o all_o this_o notwithstanding_o now_o that_o belike_o they_o think_v themselves_o in_o some_o place_n to_o have_v lay_v such_o sufficient_a foundation_n for_o the_o continuance_n of_o their_o regiment_n as_o that_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v remove_v what_o soever_o the_o magistrate_n shall_v
geneva_n at_o the_o least_o that_o of_o all_o likelihood_n as_o diverse_a household_n by_o his_o own_o rule_n do_v concur_v together_o to_o make_v one_o convenient_a parish_n so_o diverse_a parish_n in_o one_o city_n suburb_n and_o territory_n thereof_o may_v be_v unite_v and_o right_o bear_v the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n except_o we_o shall_v think_v that_o christ_n refer_v as_o they_o suppose_v his_o apostle_n to_o the_o imitation_n of_o the_o jew_n church_n government_n josephus_n they_o be_v so_o negligent_a workman_n as_o there_o be_v at_o that_o time_n 400._o synagogue_n in_o that_o one_o city_n they_o have_v erect_v in_o all_o their_o time_n but_o one_o congregation_n christian_n church_n or_o parish_n answerable_a to_o one_o synagoge_n it_o be_v lawful_a for_o they_o by_o the_o square_n of_o that_o platform_n to_o have_v erect_v if_o they_o have_v can_v 400._o but_o let_v this_o pass_v as_o a_o thing_n impertinent_a and_o to_o return_v to_o the_o maim_a &_o pine_a parish_n at_o geneva_n you_o will_v say_v do_v not_o cartwright_n know_v the_o ecclesiastical_a government_n of_o that_o city_n when_o he_o write_v his_o book_n or_o shall_v we_o once_o conceive_v that_o he_o think_v to_o condemn_v that_o regiment_n which_o in_o other_o place_n he_o do_v so_o great_o extol_v certain_o for_o my_o own_o part_n although_o i_o do_v not_o great_o respect_v what_o he_o will_v say_v that_o he_o either_o know_v or_o think_v yet_o i_o suppose_v he_o will_v never_o for_o shame_n deny_v it_o but_o that_o he_o mislike_v that_o form_n of_o church_n regiment_n for_o first_o beside_o the_o premise_n be_v urge_v with_o caluins_n authority_n who_o think_v the_o church_n of_o geneva_n with_o all_o her_o say_a parish_n to_o make_v but_o one_o body_n of_o a_o church_n 631._o his_o answer_n to_o that_o point_n in_o effect_n be_v this_o admit_v caluin_n so_o think_v i_o be_o of_o opinion_n that_o if_o caluin_n have_v not_o so_o think_v he_o will_v never_o have_v erect_v up_o such_o a_o eldership_n and_o if_o beza_n do_v not_o think_v so_o still_o i_o judge_v he_o will_v alter_v it_o second_o also_o upon_o another_o occasion_n he_o resemble_v the_o order_n of_o certain_a reform_a church_n which_o in_o this_o sense_n must_v be_v necessary_o either_o of_o scotland_n 596._o flaunders_n or_o geneva_n unto_o the_o custom_n in_o s._n jeromes_n time_n when_o bishop_n beside_o their_o one_o only_a church_n have_v certain_a other_o congregation_n belong_v to_o their_o oversight_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o mislike_n thereof_o say_v for_o part_n of_o his_o answer_n to_o this_o point_n be_v press_v by_o his_o adversary_n against_o he_o i_o appeal_v to_o the_o institution_n of_o god_n and_o use_v of_o the_o pure_a time_n after_o the_o apostle_n but_o among_o other_o qualification_n which_o he_o make_v lest_o we_o shall_v think_v that_o where_o such_o reformation_n be_v make_v as_o have_v diverse_a parish_n belong_v to_o one_o eldership_n there_o the_o old_a diocese_n and_o bishop_n be_v in_o effect_n not_o abrogate_a but_o a_o little_a alter_v he_o say_v that_o one_o in_o such_o eldership_n be_v above_o the_o rest_n 631._o but_o for_o a_o time_n as_o caluin_n be_v choose_v thereunto_o every_o two_o year_n and_o not_o during_o his_o ministry_n which_o authority_n over_o many_o parish_n but_o for_o a_o time_n although_o he_o will_v not_o plain_o condemn_v it_o in_o the_o reform_a church_n which_o he_o favore_v 123_o yet_o speak_v against_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 622_o both_o he_o &_o his_o companion_n do_v make_v it_o a_o step_n 80._o whereby_o satan_n do_v advance_v the_o kingdom_n of_o antichrist_n last_o as_o hitherto_o you_o have_v find_v m._n cartwright_n with_o his_o friend_n opposite_a in_o this_o matter_n unto_o geneva_n and_o scotland_n differ_v also_o much_o from_o the_o church_n in_o the_o low_a country_n 637._o so_o he_o seem_v to_o i_o to_o cross_v himself_o for_o in_o his_o second_o book_n he_o say_v that_o particular_a church_n be_v now_o in_o steed_n of_o synagogue_n and_o that_o their_o synagogue_n be_v the_o same_o that_o our_o particular_a church_n be_v and_o in_o his_o three_o book_n he_o write_v thus_o 46._o for_o my_o part_n i_o confess_v that_o there_o come_v not_o to_o my_o mind_n whereby_o i_o can_v precislie_a conclude_v out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n that_o there_o be_v a_o eldership_n among_o the_o jew_n in_o every_o of_o their_o synagogue_n if_o that_o can_v not_o then_o be_v show_v out_o of_o moses_n who_o be_v so_o faithful_a in_o set_v down_o all_o that_o be_v commit_v to_o his_o charge_n and_o that_o christ_n command_v no_o new_a thing_n but_o such_o as_o moses_n institute_v how_o have_v he_o urge_v so_o mighty_o that_o we_o must_v have_v his_o eldership_n in_o every_o parish_n we_o shall_v see_v peradventure_o that_o in_o short_a time_n m._n cartwright_n will_v give_v over_o this_o hold_n and_o betake_v himself_o to_o the_o city_n consistory_n frame_v new_a diocese_n to_o be_v subject_a unto_o they_o as_o in_o other_o country_n you_o have_v hear_v they_o be_v well_o i_o will_v wish_v that_o before_o their_o eldership_n be_v grant_v unto_o they_o they_o shall_v agree_v together_o where_o they_o ought_v to_o place_v they_o but_o now_o to_o the_o several_a part_n of_o every_o eldership_n chap._n 8._o of_o bishop_n general_o of_o the_o pretend_a equality_n of_o pastor_n or_o new_a parish_n bishop_n and_o how_o the_o chief_a impugner_n of_o bishop_n begin_v to_o relent_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n the_o high_a priest_n beside_o that_o he_o be_v a_o figure_n of_o christ_n have_v also_o under_o moses_n josua_n the_o judge_n and_o king_n for_o the_o better_a order_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a within_o that_o country_n of_o canaan_n under_o who_o for_o the_o same_o purpose_n be_v other_o priest_n at_o least_o 24._o that_o be_v call_v principes_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la prince_n of_o the_o priest_n all_o of_o they_o inferior_a to_o the_o high_a priest_n but_o superior_a to_o the_o rest_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n our_o saviour_n christ_n whilst_o he_o live_v on_o the_o earth_n have_v his_o apostle_n and_o in_o degree_n under_o they_o his_o 70._o disciple_n after_o his_o ascension_n the_o same_o inequality_n of_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n continue_v in_o the_o church_n by_o all_o man_n confession_n as_o long_o at_o the_o least_o as_o the_o apostle_n live_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n saint_n mark_v be_v bishop_n of_o alexandria_n saint_n james_n be_v bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n timothy_n be_v bishop_n of_o ephesus_n and_o titus_n be_v bishop_n of_o crete_n if_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o ecclesiastical_a history_n be_v of_o any_o credit_n the_o apostle_n have_v receive_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n after_o a_o short_a time_n disperse_v themselves_o by_o advice_n into_o diverse_a region_n and_o there_o by_o painful_a preach_n and_o labour_v in_o the_o lord_n harvest_n they_o plant_v no_o doubt_n very_o many_o church_n as_o the_o number_n of_o christian_n grow_v and_o have_v their_o particular_a assembly_n and_o meeting_n in_o many_o city_n and_o country_n within_o every_o one_o of_o their_o circuit_n they_o place_v pastor_n in_o every_o congregation_n they_o ordain_v certain_a apostolical_a man_n to_o be_v chief_a assister_n unto_o they_o who_o they_o place_v some_o one_o in_o this_o particular_a country_n another_o in_o that_o and_o some_o other_o in_o sundry_a city_n to_o have_v the_o rule_n and_o oversight_n under_o they_o of_o the_o church_n there_o and_o to_o redress_v and_o supply_v such_o want_n as_o be_v needful_a and_o they_o themselves_o after_o a_o while_n and_o as_o they_o grow_v in_o age_n and_o escape_v the_o cruelty_n of_o tyrant_n remain_v for_o the_o most_o part_n in_o some_o head_n city_n within_o their_o compass_n to_o oversee_v they_o all_o both_o church_n pastor_n and_o bishop_n or_o superintendent_o and_o to_o give_v their_o direction_n as_o occasion_n require_v and_o as_o they_o think_v it_o convenient_a when_o any_o either_o of_o these_o apostolical_a assistant_n or_o of_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o die_v there_o be_v ever_o some_o worthy_a man_n choose_v and_o appoint_v to_o succeed_v they_o in_o those_o city_n and_o country_n where_o they_o have_v remain_v for_o we_o may_v not_o idle_o dream_v that_o when_o they_o die_v the_o authority_n which_o be_v give_v unto_o they_o cease_v no_o more_o than_o we_o may_v that_o the_o authority_n of_o aaron_n &_o of_o his_o natural_a son_n expire_v and_o end_v with_o they_o beside_o it_o be_v manifest_a by_o all_o ecclesiastical_a history_n that_o many_o church_n be_v plant_v after_o their_o death_n and_o furthermore_o it_o can_v not_o be_v but_o that_o some_o church_n especial_o under_o those_o apostle_n that_o be_v soon_o put_v to_o
death_n be_v when_o they_o die_v in_o the_o same_o case_n that_o crete_n be_v when_o titus_n be_v send_v thither_o and_o have_v therefore_o as_o much_o need_n of_o a_o titus_n as_o ever_o crete_n have_v furthermore_o who_o can_v be_v account_v to_o be_v well_o in_o his_o wit_n that_o will_v imagine_v that_o christ_n shall_v ordain_v such_o a_o authority_n but_o for_o some_o threescore_o year_n especial_o the_o same_o cause_n continue_v why_o it_o be_v first_o institute_v that_o be_v before_o nay_o i_o may_v bold_o say_v that_o there_o be_v great_a need_n for_o the_o continuance_n of_o it_o afterward_o for_o the_o apostle_n have_v so_o great_a power_n to_o work_v miracle_n and_o by_o their_o prayer_n to_o procure_v from_o god_n such_o strange_a execution_n of_o his_o pleasure_n upon_o the_o contemptuous_a as_o do_v fall_v upon_o ananias_n and_o his_o wife_n and_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o in_o like_a case_n sometime_o upon_o some_o other_o their_o roll_a and_o command_v authority_n be_v not_o so_o necessary_a then_o as_o it_o be_v afterward_o when_o that_o power_n to_o work_v miracle_n cease_v but_o what_o shall_v i_o need_v to_o use_v many_o word_n in_o a_o matter_n so_o apparent_a after_o the_o death_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o of_o their_o assistant_n uz_o the_o bishop_n place_v by_o they_o as_o be_v mention_v the_o ecclesiastical_a history_n and_o the_o ancient_a father_n have_v keep_v the_o register_n of_o their_o name_n that_o succeed_v sundry_a of_o they_o and_o rule_v the_o church_n after_o they_o as_o they_o before_o have_v rule_v they_o whereupon_o they_o be_v call_v from_o all_o antiquity_n the_o apostle_n and_o apostolical_a man_n successor_n this_o inequality_n in_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n have_v be_v approve_v and_o honour_v by_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n none_o except_v by_o all_o the_o general_a council_n that_o ever_o be_v hold_v in_o christendom_n and_o by_o all_o other_o man_n of_o learning_n that_o ever_o i_o hear_v of_o for_o many_o hundred_o year_n after_o the_o apostle_n time_n save_v that_o aerius_n the_o heretic_n a_o ambitious_a person_n grow_v into_o great_a rage_n for_o that_o he_o miss_v of_o a_o bishopric_n which_o he_o sue_v for_o first_o broach_v the_o opinion_n which_o be_v now_o so_o currant_n amongst_o his_o scholar_n that_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v no_o difference_n between_o a_o bishop_n and_o a_o priest_n epiph._n whereby_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o be_v equal_a with_o the_o bishop_n that_o prevail_v in_o the_o say_a suit_n against_o he_o &_o challenge_v to_o have_v as_o great_a authority_n he_o be_v but_o a_o priest_n as_o the_o other_o have_v be_v a_o bishop_n in_o this_o latter_a age_n of_o the_o world_n when_o after_o a_o long_a darkness_n it_o please_v almighty_a god_n to_o restore_v unto_o we_o the_o light_n of_o his_o gospel_n the_o chief_a instrument_n that_o god_n then_o use_v and_o adorn_v with_o most_o singular_a gift_n for_o such_o a_o mighty_a work_n be_v very_o far_o from_o that_o conceit_n â—and_v rash_a presumption_n which_o afterwards_o possess_v certain_a person_n of_o aerius_n humour_n and_o yet_o do_v boil_v in_o many_o of_o their_o follower_n breast_n it_o be_v true_a that_o many_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o their_o writing_n which_o at_o the_o first_o show_n do_v make_v very_o great_o against_o bishop_n but_o diverse_a person_n in_o these_o day_n not_o well_o consider_v the_o circumstance_n of_o those_o time_n do_v great_o abuse_v the_o world_n in_o extend_v they_o further_o than_o they_o mean_v they_o it_o be_v far_o from_o their_o intent_n that_o those_o thing_n which_o they_o have_v write_v against_o popish_a bishop_n the_o enemy_n of_o the_o gospel_n shall_v ever_o have_v be_v urge_v against_o such_o bishop_n as_o do_v willing_o embrace_v it_o i_o will_v acquaint_v you_o a_o little_a with_o the_o proceed_n of_o those_o time_n and_o then_o leave_v this_o point_n to_o your_o wise_a consideration_n when_o the_o say_v learned_a man_n begin_v to_o seek_v the_o reformation_n of_o religion_n in_o germany_n it_o be_v not_o unknowen_a unto_o you_o into_o what_o subjection_n the_o pope_n have_v bring_v all_o christian_a prince_n and_o state_n the_o bishop_n as_o his_o vassal_n do_v then_o whole_o depend_v upon_o he_o they_o hold_v their_o bishopricke_n by_o his_o authority_n and_o nothing_o can_v be_v do_v especial_o in_o church_n matter_n but_o by_o the_o pope_n and_o they_o so_o as_o when_o luther_n and_o the_o rest_n begin_v to_o disclose_v the_o enormity_n of_o popery_n and_o desire_v some_o godly_a reformation_n of_o they_o you_o may_v easy_o conceive_v the_o pope_n and_o his_o bishop_n be_v the_o chief_a maintainer_n of_o that_o corruption_n what_o little_a encouragement_n they_o find_v at_o their_o hand_n it_o be_v evident_a in_o their_o write_n how_o earnest_o and_o humble_o at_o the_o first_o they_o deal_v both_o with_o the_o pope_n and_o with_o many_o other_o of_o the_o chief_a bishop_n that_o they_o will_v be_v content_a and_o please_v to_o reform_v such_o thing_n as_o they_o find_v to_o be_v amiss_o in_o the_o church_n but_o all_o their_o endeavour_n to_o that_o purpose_n be_v in_o vain_a the_o pope_n and_o his_o clergy_n stand_v too_o much_o upon_o their_o reputation_n if_o they_o shall_v have_v yield_v they_o imagine_v the_o world_n will_v have_v condemn_v they_o in_o that_o they_o have_v not_o in_o time_n of_o themselves_o prevent_v or_o redress_v so_o notable_a abuse_n whereupon_o luther_n &_o those_o learned_a man_n that_o join_v with_o he_o be_v drive_v to_o fly_v unto_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n &_o to_o advertise_v they_o of_o their_o duty_n prove_v it_o unto_o they_o most_o plentiful_o out_o of_o the_o scripture_n that_o in_o such_o a_o obstinate_a defection_n among_o the_o priest_n it_o appertain_v unto_o they_o every_o one_o within_o their_o own_o free_a state_n and_o territory_n to_o reform_v religion_n themselves_o as_o the_o godly_a king_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n have_v do_v in_o the_o like_a case_n and_o the_o rather_o to_o move_v they_o thereunto_o they_o labour_v by_o all_o the_o mean_n they_o can_v to_o make_v the_o popish_a clergy_n most_o odious_a unto_o they_o they_o inveigh_v against_o their_o pride_n against_o their_o superfluity_n against_o their_o tyranny_n and_o against_o their_o corruption_n after_o much_o pain_n take_v to_o these_o and_o the_o like_a effect_n it_o please_v god_n to_o move_v the_o heart_n of_o many_o of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o think_v better_o of_o their_o duty_n &_o plain_o to_o perceive_v how_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o bishop_n have_v former_o abuse_v they_o the_o godly_a king_n and_o magistrate_n in_o the_o scripture_n when_o they_o reform_v religion_n be_v ever_o most_o careful_a that_o the_o livinge_n appoint_v by_o god_n for_o the_o priest_n may_v be_v thorough_o preserve_v if_o any_o by_o abuse_n have_v be_v alienate_v they_o cause_v they_o to_o be_v restore_v again_o and_o so_o i_o suppose_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n shall_v have_v do_v in_o this_o latter_a age_n but_o it_o have_v fall_v out_o otherwise_o and_o all_o the_o other_o godly_a learned_a man_n in_o christendom_n do_v mislike_v it_o the_o persuasion_n to_o prince_n that_o the_o bishop_n and_o abbot_n have_v too_o much_o be_v very_o plausible_a the_o free_a city_n notwithstanding_o their_o freedom_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o emperor_n yet_o they_o be_v subject_a all_o of_o they_o unto_o bishop_n &_o be_v not_o discontent_v that_o so_o good_a a_o occasion_n be_v offer_v unto_o they_o to_o procure_v their_o great_a liberty_n luther_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o those_o learned_a man_n regard_v nothing_o but_o that_o the_o light_n of_o the_o gospel_n may_v be_v restore_v be_v content_a to_o yield_v much_o &_o to_o bear_v against_o their_o mind_n with_o many_o unequal_a condition_n so_o as_o at_o the_o last_o by_o their_o wisdom_n and_o diligence_n they_o prevail_v god_n move_v the_o heart_n of_o diverse_a civil_a magistrate_n to_o begin_v a_o reformation_n the_o pope_n the_o bishop_n and_o the_o chief_a of_o the_o clergy_n impugn_a it_o by_o all_o the_o mean_n they_o can_v possible_o whereupon_o there_o be_v no_o other_o remedy_n their_o authority_n employ_v to_o hinder_v those_o proceed_n be_v reject_v and_o the_o most_o of_o their_o living_n which_o they_o have_v in_o any_o of_o those_o territory_n be_v seize_v into_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o civil_a governor_n there_o upon_o these_o &_o many_o such_o like_a occasion_n great_a trouble_n do_v arise_v the_o bishop_n think_v themselves_o great_o injury_v diverse_a great_a prince_n take_v their_o part_n &_o so_o do_v the_o emperor_n they_o mislike_v the_o reformation_n which_o be_v proceed_v in_o after_o that_o sort_n the_o authority_n of_o bb_n s._n be_v great_o insist_v upon_o insomuch_o as_o notwithstanding_o that_o the_o say_v learned_a
can_v not_o depute_v it_o to_o the_o apostle_n so_o as_o it_o remain_v that_o he_o do_v it_o by_o his_o own_o authority_n or_o at_o the_o least_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o rest_n that_o be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n which_o will_v not_o agree_v with_o our_o man_n platform_n if_o here_o exception_n be_v take_v to_o caluin_n as_o that_o in_o some_o other_o of_o his_o writing_n he_o be_v of_o a_o other_o mind_n you_o must_v be_v advertise_v that_o he_o beginning_n to_o write_v betimes_o do_v in_o diverse_a thing_n upon_o better_a advice_n change_v his_o opinion_n and_o therefore_o in_o one_o of_o his_o epistle_n desire_v those_o that_o will_v read_v his_o work_n that_o they_o will_v first_o take_v the_o pain_n to_o read_v his_o institution_n as_o conteininge_v in_o they_o for_o those_o thing_n there_o set_v down_o his_o very_a mind_n and_o settle_a judgement_n but_o what_o if_o beza_n do_v in_o sort_n agree_v herein_o with_o caluin_n anno._n sure_o if_o i_o understand_v he_o he_o do_v for_o upon_o these_o word_n come_v impositione_n manuum_fw-la presbyterij_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la say_v he_o ordinis_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la quâ—_n nomine_fw-la caetus_fw-la omnis_fw-la ille_fw-la significatur_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o verbo_fw-la laborabat_fw-la in_o ea_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la that_o be_v the_o order_n of_o priest_n or_o elder_n by_o which_o name_n all_o that_o company_n be_v signify_v which_o do_v labour_n in_o the_o word_n in_o that_o church_n disburden_v then_o for_o shame_n your_o counterfeit_a alderman_n of_o this_o joint-dutie_n in_o your_o eldership_n or_o at_o the_o jest_n let_v they_o rest_n until_o you_o be_v better_o resolve_v among_o yourselves_o how_o to_o employ_v they_o lest_o you_o bring_v they_o within_o the_o compass_n of_o the_o punishment_n of_o corah_n dathan_n and_o abiram_n as_o i_o have_v say_v before_o chap._n 17._o of_o their_o alderman_n joint_a office_n with_o the_o minister_n in_o bind_v and_o lose_v of_o sin_n and_o of_o their_o disagreement_n therein_o rest_n concern_v their_o pretend_a authority_n equal_a with_o their_o minister_n for_o their_o proceeding_n be_v by_o voice_n in_o excommunication_n of_o the_o stubborn_a and_o absolution_n of_o the_o repentant_a will_v they_o trouble_v themselves_o think_v you_o with_o any_o testimony_n out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n indeed_o they_o affirm_v that_o these_o censure_n be_v resemble_v there_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o discern_v bettwene_v the_o clean_a and_o the_o unclean_a between_o the_o holy_a &_o unholy_a of_o shut_v up_o the_o leprous_a and_o releasinge_a they_o of_o purginge_v the_o unclean_a of_o curse_v resemble_v bindding_n of_o blessing_n resemble_v lose_v &c._n &c._n and_o be_v it_o so_o but_o where_o be_v there_o mention_n in_o any_o such_o place_n that_o your_o pretend_a elder_n have_v any_o authority_n to_o intermeddle_v with_o these_o matter_n be_v they_o not_o throughout_o the_o whole_a old_a testament_n evermore_o ascribe_v to_o aaron_n and_o his_o son_n nay_o may_v any_o that_o be_v of_o other_o tribe_n then_o of_o the_o tribe_n of_o levi_n deal_v heerwithal_o speak_v frank_o &_o true_o may_v they_o so_o beza_n can_v find_v no_o answer_n to_o this_o question_n but_o probabile_fw-la est_fw-la it_o be_v probable_a they_o may_v whereas_o i_o be_o persuade_v there_o be_v few_o assertion_n of_o great_a absurdity_n or_o of_o less_o probability_n for_o the_o levite_n themselves_o that_o be_v not_o of_o the_o son_n of_o aaron_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v in_o these_o thing_n 127._o travers_n defininge_v what_o suspension_n be_v say_v it_o be_v a_o commandment_n or_o prohibition_n of_o a_o elder_a of_o abstaininge_v for_o a_o certain_a time_n from_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o sacrament_n for_o the_o proof_n whereof_o ibid._n he_o ground_v himself_o upon_o this_o shadow_n as_o he_o term_v it_o that_o by_o the_o law_n the_o unclean_a and_o uncircumcised_a be_v prohibit_v the_o celebrate_n of_o the_o passeover_n &_o entrance_n into_o the_o temple_n which_o cause_v say_v he_o joiada_n the_o priest_n to_o appoint_v certain_a porter_n to_o the_o gate_n of_o the_o temple_n by_o which_o testimony_n what_o he_o else_o prove_v then_o that_o his_o elder_n be_v of_o the_o number_n of_o these_o porter_n i_o find_v not_o 102._o and_o that_o sure_o agree_v best_a with_o bezaes_n opinion_n mention_v horum_fw-la proculdubio_fw-la part_n erant_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v out_o of_o doubt_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o archruler_n of_o the_o synagogue_n not_o to_o admit_v excommunicate_v person_n into_o the_o synagogue_n with_o which_o office_n if_o they_o of_o that_o consort_n will_v be_v content_a to_o infeoff_v their_o alderman_n and_o go_v no_o further_o i_o see_v no_o cause_n why_o any_o man_n shall_v great_o envy_v they_o that_o preferment_n but_o when_o from_o dorekeeper_n they_o must_v be_v so_o advance_v as_o that_o they_o must_v be_v abdicator_n and_o comforter_n as_o they_o term_v they_o that_o be_v more_o then_o upon_o such_o weak_a collection_n be_v fit_a to_o be_v allow_v of_o for_o where_o they_o give_v they_o these_o jointe_n office_n with_o the_o minister_n of_o abdicate_v the_o stubborn_a and_o of_o consolation_n of_o the_o repentant_a if_o they_o will_v speak_v out_o it_o be_v as_o much_o as_o though_o they_o shall_v say_v that_o they_o have_v equal_a authority_n with_o they_o of_o suspension_n and_o excommunication_n of_o bindinge_v and_o lose_v of_o retain_v and_o remit_v of_o sin_n no_o no_o they_o may_v send_v they_o to_o parishgarden_n to_o loose_v and_o bind_v bear_n for_o they_o be_v far_o unmeet_a to_o have_v any_o such_o authority_n over_o man_n soul_n that_o those_o which_o be_v not_o bishop_n or_o priest_n that_o be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n shall_v have_v that_o authority_n which_o they_o speak_v of_o be_v a_o matter_n that_o be_v never_o hear_v of_o in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n for_o a_o 1500._o year_n cartwright_n in_o handle_v this_o point_n be_v able_a to_o bring_v for_o his_o purpose_n but_o one_o pertinent_a authority_n in_o show_n out_o of_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n uz._n out_o of_o tertullian_n of_o certain_a precedent_n that_o shut_v offender_n from_o prayer_n in_o the_o congregation_n which_o precedent_n as_o he_o well_o know_v the_o same_o tertullian_n say_v expresslie_o in_o a_o other_o place_n be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n in_o these_o word_n speak_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n nec_fw-la de_fw-la aliorum_fw-la manu_fw-la quà m_fw-la presidentium_fw-la sumimus_fw-la neither_o do_v we_o receive_v at_o the_o hand_n of_o any_o other_o but_o of_o the_o governor_n it_o be_v worthy_a the_o consideration_n to_o see_v into_o what_o extremity_n man_n do_v common_o fall_v that_o will_v presume_v to_o build_v the_o church_n upon_o the_o straw_n and_o stubble_n of_o their_o own_o devise_n all_o the_o world_n can_v persuade_v the_o papist_n but_o that_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v only_o give_v to_o peter_n and_o so_o to_o his_o successor_n and_o that_o from_o he_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v to_o receive_v they_o and_o so_o must_v their_o successor_n from_o the_o pope_n against_o who_o we_o insist_v with_o the_o ancient_a father_n that_o what_o be_v say_v to_o peter_n 20._o appertain_v to_o they_o all_o as_o namely_o for_o one_o reason_n in_o that_o where_o the_o key_n be_v promise_v to_o peter_n tibi_fw-la dabo_fw-la i_o will_v give_v they_o to_o thou_o when_o this_o promise_n be_v perform_v christ_n give_v they_o unto_o all_o the_o apostle_n alike_o and_o to_o their_o successor_n who_o sin_n you_o remit_v they_o shall_v be_v remit_v and_o who_o sin_n you_o retain_v they_o shall_v be_v retain_v which_o be_v the_o true_a use_n of_o the_o key_n now_o who_o be_v to_o be_v term_v the_o apostle_n successor_n if_o we_o will_v believe_v the_o say_v ancient_a father_n that_o be_v in_o my_o opinion_n as_o honest_a and_o learned_a man_n as_o those_o that_o oppose_v themselves_o against_o they_o we_o must_v confess_v that_o they_o be_v at_o the_o least_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n and_o so_o we_o have_v plead_v in_o this_o cause_n against_o the_o papist_n but_o now_o on_o the_o other_o side_n the_o world_n be_v so_o come_v about_o that_o whereas_o the_o papist_n do_v give_v the_o key_n but_o to_o peter_n only_o and_o so_o to_o the_o pope_n where_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v give_v they_o to_o all_o the_o apostle_n equal_o and_o so_o to_o their_o successor_n minister_n as_o i_o say_v at_o the_o jest_n now_o these_o new_a start-ups_a will_v needs_o thrust_v their_o alderman_n into_o that_o number_n and_o they_o must_v be_v also_o the_o apostle_n successor_n if_o man_n will_v be_v seduce_v wilful_o by_o such_o falseteacher_n 43._o they_o may_v what_o a_o ridiculous_a say_v be_v this_o of_o bezaes_n that_o in_o persona_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la the_o key_n
be_v give_v omnibus_fw-la veris_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la to_o all_o true_a priest_n or_o elder_n include_v in_o that_o number_n his_o unpriestlie_o elderman_n again_o upon_o these_o word_n of_o christ_n 16.19_o the_o key_n etc._n etc._n hac_fw-la metaphorica_fw-la locutione_fw-la significatur_fw-la oeconomi_fw-la potestas_fw-la esa_fw-la 22_o 22._o qua_fw-la funguntur_fw-la omnes_fw-la ministri_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la dei_fw-la ut_fw-la apparet_fw-la infra_fw-la 18_o 18._o by_o this_o metaphorical_a speech_n be_v signify_v that_o power_n of_o christ_n mention_v in_o esay_n the_o key_n of_o the_o house_n of_o david_n i_o will_v lay_v upon_o his_o shoulder_n lo_o he_o shall_v open_v and_o no_o man_n shall_v shut_v and_o he_o shall_v shut_v and_o no_o man_n shall_v open_v which_o power_n all_o the_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n do_v enjoy_v as_o it_o appear_v in_o matthew_n whatsoever_o you_o bind_v in_o earth_n shall_v be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n 18._o and_o whatsoever_o you_o lose_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v loose_v in_o heaven_n 61._o and_o upon_o that_o place_n of_o matthew_n the_o 18_o chapter_n and_o in_o many_o other_o place_n by_o the_o church_n and_o those_o binder_n and_o loser_n there_n speak_v of_o he_o understand_v his_o eldership_n &_o so_o consequent_o aswell_o his_o alderman_n as_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n he_o that_o with_o a_o open_a face_n to_o use_v cartwrighte_n term_v do_v affirm_v that_o either_o in_o matthew_n the_o 16._o 15._o or_o in_o the_o place_n of_o esay_n mention_v these_o unpreach_v elder_n be_v mean_v or_o prefigure_v need_v not_o i_o warrant_v he_o at_o any_o time_n a_o vizard_n indeed_o master_n cartwright_n be_v not_o of_o bezaes_n mind_n herein_o for_o say_v he_o in_o math._n 16._o and_o in_o joh._n 20._o christ_n under_o stand_v that_o every_o one_o of_o the_o minister_n 83._o bind_v &_o lose_v by_o preach_v but_o the_o word_n math._n 18.18_o can_v be_v draw_v to_o the_o particular_a person_n of_o the_o minister_n surelye_o you_o have_v spin_v a_o fair_a thread_n for_o if_o your_o alderman_n be_v not_o aswell_o understand_v in_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n unto_o thou_o i_o will_v give_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n as_o in_o these_o whatsoever_o you_o bind_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n and_o whatsoever_o you_o lose_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v loose_v in_o heaven_n it_o will_v fall_v out_o that_o they_o will_v have_v no_o key_n either_o to_o open_v or_o shut_v withal_o except_o peradventure_o you_o will_v make_v your_o lock_n with_o a_o springe_n and_o so_o indeed_o they_o may_v shut_v the_o door_n but_o for_o open_v of_o it_o they_o may_v blow_v their_o nail_n here_o you_o see_v beza_n and_o cartwright_n opposite_a and_o now_o you_o shall_v have_v a_o fellow_n to_o impugn_v they_o both_o in_o a_o theological_a position_n print_v at_o geneva_n set_v out_o by_o ant._n fayus_n and_o maintain_v there_o by_o one_o danyell_n niellius_n 243._o out_o of_o math._n 16.19_o thus_o say_v he_o we_o may_v reason_v to_o they_o only_o the_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v be_v give_v unto_o who_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v give_v for_o to_o have_v bind_v and_o lose_v be_v that_o same_o that_o it_o be_v to_o have_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n but_o unto_o peter_n the_o key_n be_v give_v and_o unto_o they_o in_o who_o name_n peter_n answer_v christ_n demand_v who_o the_o jew_n say_v he_o be_v and_o because_o they_o be_v give_v ratione_fw-la officij_fw-la in_o regard_n of_o his_o office_n it_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v give_v to_o all_o qui_fw-la in_o veritatis_fw-la doctrina_fw-la predicanda_fw-la sunt_fw-la ipsis_fw-la successuri_fw-la who_o in_o preach_v the_o doctrine_n of_o truth_n shall_v succeed_v they_o by_o these_o word_n then_o their_o disguise_a alderman_n must_v either_o have_v assign_v unto_o they_o the_o same_o office_n that_o the_o apostle_n have_v &_o be_v make_v preacher_n or_o else_o they_o may_v put_v up_o their_o pipe_n and_o go_v shake_v their_o ear_n ceneâ—_n but_o yet_o more_o plain_o we_o be_v advertise_v in_o the_o same_o place_n from_o geneva_n out_o of_o john_n 20.23_o we_o may_v also_o infer_v after_o this_o sort_n christ_n after_o he_o send_v his_o apostle_n as_o he_o be_v send_v of_o the_o father_n he_o breathe_v on_o they_o the_o holy_a ghost_n say_v who_o sin_n you_o remit_v they_o shall_v be_v remit_v who_o sin_n you_o retain_v they_o shall_v be_v retain_v to_o all_o they_o therefore_o and_o only_o to_o they_o who_o be_v send_v that_o authority_n be_v give_v but_o the_o apostle_n only_o be_v not_o send_v for_o it_o be_v christ_n who_o ascend_v into_o heaven_n give_v to_o his_o church_n pastor_n and_o doctor_n and_o altogether_o to_o that_o end_n and_o for_o handle_v that_o work_n ephes._n 4.11.13_o now_o join_v both_o these_o inference_n with_o that_o which_o beza_n &_o cartwright_n have_v before_o set_v down_o and_o let_v he_o for_o i_o bear_v the_o bell_n for_o a_o reconciler_n of_o contrariety_n that_o be_v able_a in_o any_o probable_a sort_n to_o make_v any_o one_o of_o they_o friend_n with_o another_o or_o for_o ever_o hereafter_o to_o agree_v together_o and_o yet_o i_o know_v that_o they_o of_o geneva_n can_v do_v much_o you_o must_v bring_v they_o very_o strange_a discord_n but_o they_o will_v make_v some_o harmony_n of_o they_o whereas_o the_o confession_n of_o bohemia_n of_o augusta_n and_o the_o apology_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v a_o cribe_v these_o censure_n we_o speak_v of_o to_o the_o priest_n or_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n only_o the_o genevians_n to_o make_v the_o world_n believe_v that_o in_o effect_n all_o the_o reform_a church_n do_v agree_v with_o that_o of_o they_o and_o with_o those_o other_o that_o wear_v her_o colour_n will_v needs_o take_v upon_o they_o in_o their_o annotation_n join_v to_o the_o end_n of_o their_o harmony_n to_o expound_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o say_a confession_n &_o how_o they_o must_v be_v right_o understand_v 2._o as_o for_o example_n it_o be_v commit_v to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o wordâ—_n say_v the_o confession_n of_o augusta_n excludere_fw-la impios_fw-la etc._n etc._n aâ—communione_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la to_o exclude_v the_o wicked_a etc._n etc._n from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n nimirum_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v affirm_v the_o genevians_n ex_fw-la presbiterij_fw-la legitimè_fw-la congregati_fw-la fententia_fw-la etc._n etc._n according_a to_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o eldership_n lawful_o assemble_v whereas_o it_o never_o as_o yet_o set_v up_o any_o such_o eldership_n again_o the_o say_a confession_n hic_fw-la necessario_fw-la etc._n etc._n here_o the_o church_n must_v yield_v they_o due_a obedience_n ibidem_fw-la mean_v to_o the_o say_a minister_n so_o exclude_v the_o wicked_a nempe_fw-la come_v in_o the_o genevians_n verbi_fw-la ministris_fw-la &_o senioribus_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o to_o the_o elder_n who_o be_v never_o allow_v of_o by_o that_o confession_n to_o this_o purpose_n pretend_v the_o apology_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v show_v that_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o key_n do_v only_o belong_v to_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o that_o sacerdos_n that_o be_v the_o bishop_n as_o i_o think_v he_o mean_v for_o the_o execution_n of_o these_o censure_n be_v the_o judge_n sacerdos_n that_o be_v say_v the_o genevians_n unus_fw-la designatus_fw-la ex_fw-la pastorum_fw-la collegio_fw-la one_o choose_v out_o of_o the_o college_n of_o pastor_n ibidem_fw-la deinde_fw-la etiam_fw-la intelligiturpraeire_n quum_fw-la de_fw-fr censuris_fw-la ecclesiasticis_fw-la agitur_fw-la legâ—tinam_fw-la presbyterij_fw-la cognitionem_fw-la and_o furthermore_o also_o let_v it_o be_v understand_v when_o speech_n be_v of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n that_o there_o go_v before_o a_o lawful_a determination_n of_o the_o eldership_n whether_o the_o apology_n have_v that_o meaning_n the_o mean_a of_o any_o sense_n at_o all_o may_v judge_v and_o thus_o they_o deal_v also_o with_o the_o bohemian_a confession_n so_o that_o as_o i_o say_v to_o serve_v their_o purpose_n they_o can_v make_v ex_fw-la quo_fw-la libet_fw-la quid_fw-la libet_fw-la of_o any_o thing_n what_o they_o listen_v and_o by_o these_o example_n you_o may_v also_o safe_o learn_v what_o credit_n be_v to_o be_v give_v in_o this_o cause_n both_o to_o they_o and_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o that_o humour_n when_o they_o will_v seem_v to_o allege_v either_o scripture_n counsel_n or_o father_n for_o their_o most_o unwarrantable_a and_o counterfeit_a alderman_n but_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v unto_o they_o for_o a_o month_n or_o two_o that_o their_o elderman_n shall_v be_v join_v with_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o have_v a_o equal_a authority_n with_o they_o of_o bind_v and_o lose_v will_v they_o content_v themselves_o therewithal_o it_o be_v
certain_a that_o the_o barrowist_n will_v not_o and_o not_o they_o only_a but_o even_o some_o other_o of_o a_o little_a better_a credit_n than_o any_o of_o our_o english_a butcher_n who_o will_v needs_o have_v the_o people_n to_o have_v in_o effect_n as_o great_a a_o interest_n in_o the_o execution_n of_o the_o church_n censure_n as_o all_o the_o rest_n both_o minister_n and_o elderman_n thus_o vrsinus_n write_v hereof_o fiat_n excommunicatio_fw-la &c_n &c_n let_v excommunication_n be_v do_v by_o the_o consent_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o whole_a eldership_n 350._o &_o ecclesiae_fw-la and_o of_o the_o church_n not_o of_o the_o church_n alone_o nor_o of_o the_o minister_n or_o presbytery_n alone_o for_o this_o power_n be_v not_o give_v by_o christ_n to_o a_o few_o or_o to_o minister_n only_o although_o the_o administration_n and_o execution_n of_o it_o be_v commit_v oftentimes_o to_o few_o or_o to_o one_o minister_n sed_fw-la toti_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la but_o to_o the_o whole_a church_n if_o he_o will_v not_o hear_v they_o and_o other_o tell_v the_o church_n potentes_fw-la dominantur_fw-la vos_fw-la autem_fw-la non_fw-la sic_fw-la prince_n bear_v rule_v like_o lord_n but_o you_o may_v not_o do_v so_o the_o consent_n therefore_o of_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v require_v 1._o because_o it_o be_v christ_n commandment_n 2._o for_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o action_n 3._o that_o no_o man_n be_v injury_v 4._o lest_o the_o ministry_n shall_v be_v change_v into_o a_o oligarchy_n or_o popish_a tyranny_n thus_o far_o vrsinus_n in_o who_o judgement_n you_o see_v the_o eldership_n be_v to_o be_v charge_v already_o though_o it_o be_v but_o new_o set_v up_o with_o the_o same_o fault_n that_o be_v impute_v to_o our_o church-government_n by_o the_o brotherhood_n amongst_o we_o that_o be_v with_o the_o alteration_n of_o christ_n institution_n with_o lordlinesse_n and_o with_o a_o popish_a tyranny_n etc._n etc._n so_o as_o by_o this_o devise_n the_o people_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v in_o the_o person_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o well_o as_o their_o elder_n and_o the_o one_o have_v no_o more_o authority_n to_o bind_v and_o loose_v than_o the_o other_o but_o nothing_o will_v content_v they_o long_o give_v they_o the_o head_n &_o every_o year_n will_v bring_v forth_o a_o new_a platform_n it_o will_v not_o be_v enough_o for_o master_n beza_n to_o say_v neque_fw-la enim_fw-la eye_n assentior_fw-la 43._o qui_fw-la non_fw-la nisi_fw-la totius_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o do_v not_o agree_v with_o they_o who_o will_v not_o have_v any_o man_n excommunicate_v but_o by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o of_o every_o man_n particular_o for_o christ_n have_v give_v this_o authority_n sani_fw-la iudicij_fw-la hominibus_fw-la to_o man_n of_o sound_a judgement_n that_o be_v to_o the_o college_n of_o elder_n according_a to_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o jew_n vrsinus_n and_o those_o that_o be_v of_o his_o opinion_n will_v answer_v that_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o of_o their_o wit_n that_o it_o be_v but_o his_o pride_n and_o his_o elder_n presumption_n to_o take_v so_o much_o upon_o they_o that_o they_o will_v be_v lord_n over_o their_o brethren_n and_o for_o the_o place_n of_o matthew_n that_o they_o know_v christ_n meaning_n aswell_o as_o he_o and_o all_o that_o take_v his_o part_n 183._o of_o the_o three_o joint_n office_n that_o cartwright_n say_v dothâ—belong_v unto_o his_o pretend_a elder_n to_o be_v execute_v joint_o with_o the_o minister_n as_o it_o be_v touch_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o 16._o chapter_n i_o shall_v have_v a_o more_o fit_a place_n to_o speak_v in_o the_o 22.23.24_o and_o 25._o chapter_n follow_v chap._n xviii_o of_o the_o first_o institution_n of_o the_o old_a deacon_n and_o of_o the_o disagreement_n about_o the_o new_a disciplinarie_a deacon_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n when_o after_o christ_n ascension_n they_o begin_v to_o preach_v in_o jerusalem_n such_o be_v the_o charity_n of_o those_o that_o profess_v the_o gospel_n that_o many_o of_o they_o sell_v all_o or_o the_o most_o part_n of_o that_o which_o they_o have_v and_o bring_v the_o price_n of_o it_o to_o the_o apostle_n foot_n the_o especial_a reason_n that_o move_v they_o as_o i_o take_v it_o so_o to_o do_v be_v this_o the_o great_a part_n that_o at_o the_o first_o do_v follow_v the_o apostle_n 1._o be_v of_o the_o poor_a sort_n who_o upon_o their_o new_a embrace_v of_o that_o so_o comfortable_a a_o doctrine_n do_v give_v over_o themselves_o to_o the_o careful_a meditation_n and_o thorough_o learn_v of_o it_o leave_v their_o trade_n though_o not_o altogether_o yet_o sure_o as_o i_o suppose_v for_o the_o most_o part_n until_o at_o the_o least_o that_o they_o grow_v to_o be_v more_o full_o instruct_v therein_o to_o the_o which_o purpose_n they_o keep_v much_o together_a with_o the_o apostle_n as_o possible_o they_o can_v and_o have_v their_o holy_a assembly_n their_o exhortation_n prayer_n and_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n secret_o in_o private_a house_n for_o fear_v of_o the_o magistrate_n now_o as_o i_o say_v the_o most_o of_o these_o be_v poor_a man_n and_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o have_v nothing_o to_o live_v upon_o when_o any_o of_o the_o rich_a sort_n do_v join_v themselves_o to_o that_o meeting_n or_o congregation_n they_o sell_v such_o thing_n as_o they_o have_v or_o think_v meet_v and_o bring_v the_o price_n of_o it_o unto_o the_o apostle_n not_o only_o for_o their_o own_o maintenance_n but_o commit_v the_o distribution_n of_o it_o unto_o they_o for_o the_o relief_n also_o of_o the_o rest_n that_o want_v and_o be_v not_o able_a to_o provide_v for_o themselves_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v necessary_a this_o charge_n as_o well_o for_o the_o say_v religious_a exercise_n in_o their_o private_a assembly_n as_o for_o this_o distribution_n equal_o to_o be_v make_v as_o the_o occasion_n require_v the_o apostle_n take_v upon_o they_o more_o particular_o for_o a_o short_a time_n than_o they_o do_v afterward_o uz._n until_o the_o number_n of_o christian_n in_o jerusalem_n increase_v from_o 120._o unto_o five_o thousand_o at_o the_o least_o and_o do_v grow_v daily_o more_o and_o more_o so_o as_o they_o be_v as_o i_o think_v constrain_v to_o have_v diverse_a congregation_n and_o then_o because_o they_o find_v it_o to_o be_v some_o hindrance_n unto_o the_o execution_n of_o their_o general_a commission_n for_o the_o further_a disperse_v of_o the_o gospel_n they_o cause_v seven_o man_n to_o be_v choose_v 6._o such_o as_o be_v know_v to_o be_v of_o honest_a report_n and_o full_a of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o wisdom_n unto_o who_o that_o business_n be_v more_o special_o commit_v who_o thenceforth_o may_v not_o only_o according_a to_o their_o honesty_n and_o discretion_n take_v into_o their_o hand_n such_o money_n as_o shall_v be_v bring_v from_o time_n to_o time_n to_o the_o godly_a dispose_v for_o the_o purpose_n mention_v but_o also_o in_o the_o apostle_n absence_n agreeable_o with_o the_o fullness_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n whereby_o they_o hold_v the_o mysterye_n of_o faith_n in_o a_o pure_a conscience_n be_v to_o teach_v 3._o to_o comfort_v to_o move_v to_o confirm_v in_o the_o faith_n the_o brethren_n in_o their_o particular_a congregation_n or_o meeting_n and_o likewise_o to_o offer_v their_o common_a prayer_n in_o all_o their_o name_n unto_o the_o lord_n and_o to_o baptise_v the_o child_n of_o the_o faithful_a for_o the_o apostle_n in_o appoint_v of_o these_o new_a officer_n have_v as_o well_o regard_v to_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o people_n as_o to_o their_o body_n and_o because_o at_o that_o time_n which_o be_v the_o infancy_n and_o first_o spring_n of_o the_o church_n there_o be_v not_o such_o meet_a man_n as_o may_v be_v make_v priest_n or_o as_o they_o term_v they_o now_o a_o day_n preach_v elder_n it_o please_v the_o apostle_n to_o have_v they_o train_v up_o in_o that_o exercise_n and_o to_o make_v the_o office_n of_o deacon_n a_o degree_n and_o a_o step_n to_o the_o fullness_n of_o priesthood_n 3_o which_o be_v express_v by_o saint_n paul_n when_o he_o say_v of_o deacon_n qui_fw-la bene_fw-la ministrant_fw-la gradum_fw-la bonum_fw-la sibi_fw-la acquirent_fw-la they_o that_o minister_v well_o shall_v purchase_v to_o themselves_o a_o good_a degree_n and_o this_o order_n or_o office_n of_o deacon_n be_v thus_o as_o you_o have_v hear_v first_o institute_v at_o hierusalent_n be_v afterward_o upon_o the_o same_o occasion_n and_o for_o the_o same_o end_v ordain_v in_o other_o church_n where_o always_o they_o execute_v all_o the_o part_n mention_v of_o their_o office_n so_o long_o as_o the_o churchâ—s_v continue_v wherein_o they_o be_v place_v or_o if_o it_o happen_v as_o it_o do_v after_o in_o jerusalem_fw-la that_o their_o church_n be_v disperse_v so_o as_o contribution_n &_o collection_n cease_v yet_o they_o continue_v their_o
it_o contain_v in_o it_o not_o the_o judgement_n only_o of_o any_o particular_a man_n but_o be_v the_o full_a resolution_n of_o cartwright_n and_o all_o his_o crew_n here_o in_o england_n contain_v in_o a_o certain_a book_n of_o discipline_n whereunto_o the_o chief_a of_o they_o have_v subscribe_v the_o presbyterye_n say_v that_o book_n be_v a_o assembly_n or_o senate_n of_o elder_n by_o the_o name_n of_o elder_n be_v mean_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o those_o that_o be_v proper_o call_v elder_n they_o mean_v such_o as_o in_o their_o place_n i_o have_v speak_v of_o here_o than_o you_o have_v that_o deacon_n be_v of_o the_o presbytery_n and_o that_o they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o presbytery_n choose_v which_o side_n you_o will_v believe_v i_o think_v they_o be_v bewitch_v if_o i_o may_v advise_v you_o believe_v they_o both_o alike_o but_o some_o will_v peradventure_o say_v that_o it_o make_v no_o great_a matter_n whether_o side_n have_v the_o truth_n that_o the_o point_n betwixt_o they_o be_v of_o no_o importance_n and_o that_o i_o be_o too_o blame_v to_o make_v so_o much_o of_o nothing_o whereunto_o i_o answer_v that_o if_o there_o be_v any_o who_o shall_v so_o conceive_v he_o be_v not_o well_o acquaint_v with_o the_o depth_n of_o this_o matter_n for_o indeed_o it_o work_v a_o marvellous_a alteration_n in_o the_o deacon_n office_n admit_v they_o to_o have_v their_o place_n and_o voice_n in_o the_o consistory_n and_o then_o their_o authority_n be_v grow_v to_o be_v very_o great_a then_o they_o have_v equal_a right_n with_o their_o pastor_n and_o doctor_n to_o ordain_v minister_n by_o imposition_n of_o their_o hand_n then_o the_o forgive_a and_o retain_v of_o sin_n do_v appertain_v unto_o they_o then_o they_o be_v become_v the_o apostle_n successor_n and_o do_v carry_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n aswell_o as_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n discipline_n for_o in_o consistorio_fw-la standum_fw-la majoris_fw-la partis_fw-la sententiae_fw-la in_o the_o consistorye_n man_n must_v stand_v to_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o great_a part_n one_o man_n voice_n there_o be_v as_o good_a as_o a_o other_o and_o so_o in_o all_o other_o matter_n that_o do_v belong_v to_o the_o consistory_n and_o which_o be_v to_o be_v execute_v there_o joint_o by_o they_o all_o together_o the_o deacon_n bear_v sway_n &_o have_v a_o stroke_n with_o the_o best_a of_o they_o whereas_o on_o the_o otherside_n if_o they_o be_v exclude_v out_o of_o the_o consistory_n as_o beza_n &_o our_o man_n will_v have_v they_o than_o they_o have_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o do_v with_o any_o of_o these_o matter_n but_o be_v restrain_v &_o draw_v into_o a_o more_o narrow_a compass_n &_o must_v content_v themselves_o to_o be_v either_o proctor_n of_o hospital_n or_o else_o collector_n &_o distributer_n of_o the_o people_n devotion_n to_o the_o poor_a and_o therein_o also_o they_o be_v subject_a to_o great_a controlment_n for_o as_o the_o law_n &_o certain_a ground_n of_o geneva_n affirm_v &_o therefore_o also_o common_o so_o hold_v elsewhere_o diaconorun_v administratio_fw-la geneu_fw-fr pastorum_fw-la inspectioni_fw-la est_fw-la obnoxia_fw-la the_o deacons_n administration_n be_v under_o the_o oversight_n of_o the_o pastor_n it_o be_v true_a 7._o thâ—t_a beza_n be_v please_v to_o allow_v the_o deacons_n a_o little_a more_o scope_n they_o hitherto_o i_o have_v mention_v and_o that_o be_v that_o in_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n they_o may_v by_o their_o office_n carry_v the_o cup_n to_o the_o communicant_n m._n cartwright_n go_v a_o little_a further_o and_o tell_v we_o also_o that_o they_o may_v likewise_o distribute_v the_o bread_n in_o all_o reform_a church_n almost_o say_v he_o the_o deacon_n do_v assist_v the_o minister_n in_o help_v of_o he_o to_o distribute_v the_o cup_n 61._o &_o in_o some_o place_n also_o the_o bread_n if_o none_o will_v be_v angry_a with_o i_o i_o will_v glad_o ask_v this_o question_n uz._n why_o the_o deacon_n may_v not_o aswell_o help_v the_o minister_n to_o baptise_v and_o to_o distribute_v the_o word_n as_o well_o as_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o as_o i_o say_v before_o of_o the_o nobleman_n elder_n so_o do_v i_o also_o of_o our_o worshipful_a deacon_n what_o a_o sight_n be_v it_o to_o see_v a_o justice_n of_o peace_n peradventure_o in_o his_o velvet_n cloak_n his_o chain_n of_o gold_n and_o such_o correspondent_a attire_n as_o be_v agreeable_a to_o that_o call_n deliver_v to_o the_o people_n that_o i_o may_v speak_v of_o so_o holy_a a_o sacrament_n sacramentallie_o the_o most_o bless_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n and_o yet_o i_o allow_v the_o sight_n as_o reasonable_a as_o to_o see_v the_o proctor_n of_o a_o spittlehouse_n execute_v of_o that_o charge_n peradventure_o it_o will_v here_o be_v say_v again_o that_o if_o there_o be_v any_o deformity_n in_o the_o behold_n of_o either_o of_o these_o sight_n it_o be_v not_o in_o they_o but_o in_o the_o beholder_n for_o they_o be_v ecclesiastical_a person_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o be_v make_v deacon_n and_o then_o why_o do_v it_o not_o belong_v unto_o they_o to_o deal_v in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n it_o be_v well_o object_v that_o point_n indeed_o will_v not_o be_v omit_v it_o be_v general_o agree_v upon_o among_o they_o i_o confess_v that_o their_o new_a find_v halfe-partie_n deacon_n be_v ecclesiastical_a person_n for_o our_o counter-poisoner_n say_v that_o whosoever_o be_v call_v as_o you_o must_v understande_v their_o deacon_n be_v to_o bear_v office_n in_o the_o church_n 130_o with_o due_a examination_n and_o trial_n and_o with_o the_o consent_n of_o those_o to_o who_o it_o appertain_v and_o be_v with_o fast_v and_o prayer_n or_o with_o prayer_n only_o and_o with_o imposition_n of_o hand_n separate_v or_o put_v a_o part_n to_o that_o office_n they_o be_v all_o ecclesiastical_a person_n and_o not_o lay_v man_n as_o they_o term_v they_o sure_o if_o our_o noble_a man_n be_v once_o become_v elder_n and_o our_o chief_a gentleman_n deacon_n and_o so_o both_o the_o sort_n of_o they_o ecclesiastical_a person_n what_o a_o clergy_n shall_v we_o have_v in_o england_n now_o there_o be_v no_o one_o call_v in_o the_o whole_a common_a wealth_n that_o be_v grow_v to_o be_v more_o contemptible_a with_o many_o than_o the_o call_n of_o clergy_n man_n but_o that_o will_v soon_o be_v recover_v when_o such_o man_n of_o estimation_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o account_n of_o ecclesiastical_a person_n there_o be_v a_o old_a say_n soluat_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la let_v every_o man_n pay_v to_o the_o church_n which_o now_o be_v alter_v and_o make_v answerable_a to_o the_o humour_n that_o now_o reign_v soluat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la let_v the_o churchman_n pay_v for_o it_o and_o indeed_o if_o we_o have_v such_o elder_n and_o deacon_n to_o be_v of_o the_o number_n of_o we_o that_o be_v churchman_n and_o ecclesiastical_a person_n we_o may_v sure_o pay_v well_o for_o it_o at_o the_o least_o if_o their_o ten_o &_o subsidy_n shall_v be_v in_o all_o respect_v rateable_a to_o we_o and_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n that_o the_o pastor_n and_o doctor_n man_n so_o far_o in_o degree_n above_o the_o elder_n and_o deacon_n shall_v find_v less_o favour_n than_o their_o inferior_n or_o be_v more_o deep_o charge_v except_o their_o live_n be_v in_o true_a value_n according_a to_o their_o degree_n but_o this_o will_v be_v the_o mischief_n of_o it_o that_o the_o disciplinary_a platformre_n have_v so_o far_o overshoot_v themselves_o already_o as_o certain_o they_o have_v mar_v all_o these_o their_o former_a speculation_n for_o they_o have_v make_v the_o deacon_n office_n but_o annual_a and_o i_o be_o persuade_v that_o if_o our_o noble_a man_n &_o worshipful_a gentleman_n be_v but_o for_o one_o year_n to_o all_o respect_n become_v ecclesiastical_a person_n they_o will_v hardly_o be_v draw_v to_o continue_v in_o that_o call_n the_o next_o year_n after_o it_o be_v never_o hear_v of_o in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n for_o the_o space_n of_o a_o thousand_o and_o five_o hundred_o year_n that_o the_o deacons_n office_n shall_v be_v annual_a imposition_n of_o hand_n by_o the_o presbytery_n to_o a_o office_n for_o a_o year_n in_o what_o apostle_n in_o what_o evangelist_n in_o what_o history_n may_v we_o find_v it_o a_o man_n be_v a_o ecclesiastical_a person_n to_o day_n and_o to_o morrow_n without_o any_o fault_n commit_v by_o he_o he_o shall_v become_v a_o lay_a man_n again_o master_n beza_n see_v the_o absurdity_n hereof_o do_v endeavour_n to_o salve_v it_o as_o well_o as_o he_o can_v and_o wot_v you_o how_o surely_n he_o say_v in_o effect_n that_o few_o man_n will_v be_v willing_a to_o â—arry_v long_o in_o that_o office_n and_o that_o therefore_o they_o be_v glad_a to_o have_v they_o as_o they_o may_v and_o to_o frame_v their_o law_n according_o but_o
be_v so_o ancient_a and_o that_o the_o original_n thereof_o be_v not_o find_v it_o shall_v seem_v to_o have_v come_v from_o the_o apostle_n they_o term_v the_o bringing-in_a of_o these_o authority_n the_o 513._o move_a &_o summon_v of_o hell_n they_o say_v those_o time_n 111._o be_v not_o pure_a and_o virgine-like_a but_o depart_v from_o the_o apostolical_a simplicity_n and_o do_v tread_v they_o all_o under_o their_o foot_n with_o as_o great_a facility_n as_o may_v be_v 88_o clement_n anacletus_fw-la and_o anicetus_n be_v discharge_v for_o rogue_n and_o man_n brand_v in_o the_o forehead_n 493._o epiphanius_n write_v according_a to_o the_o time_n he_o live_v in_o about_o 380._o and_o though_o the_o name_n of_o archbishop_n be_v in_o his_o time_n among_o grecian_n 494._o yet_o it_o follow_v not_o thereby_o that_o it_o be_v in_o use_n among_o the_o latin_n for_o ambrose_n when_o cartwright_n write_v his_o first_o book_n and_o that_o they_o be_v not_o so_o through_o anger_v as_o now_o they_o be_v he_o only_o give_v he_o this_o brand_n 94_o ambrose_n hold_v other_o thing_n corruptlye_o and_o then_o he_o expound_v he_o that_o of_o likelihood_n the_o archbishop_n he_o speak_v of_o be_v no_o other_o than_o he_o which_o for_o the_o time_n rule_v the_o action_n when_o bishop_n be_v ordain_v and_o after_o the_o action_n end_v have_v no_o more_o authority_n than_o the_o rest_n but_o since_o his_o choler_n increase_v first_o he_o begin_v as_o he_o say_v in_o his_o second_o book_n to_o 491._o suspect_v the_o place_n allege_v out_o of_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr dignitate_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la to_o be_v corrupt_v whereupon_o within_o a_o short_a time_n after_o he_o grow_v to_o be_v so_o harden_v against_o he_o by_o find_v some_o other_o thing_n also_o in_o the_o say_a book_n which_o he_o mislike_v that_o he_o have_v bore_v he_o in_o the_o ear_n for_o a_o rogue_n likewise_o and_o send_v he_o a_o rove_a among_o his_o fellow_n make_v the_o author_n of_o that_o book_n a_o false_a ambrose_n which_o be_v a_o unlearned_a shift_n 93_o sozomenus_n and_o volusianus_n they_o write_v not_o according_a to_o that_o which_o be_v but_o according_a to_o the_o custom_n and_o manner_n of_o the_o age_n wherein_o they_o wrotte_n as_o though_o he_o shall_v say_v they_o lie_v and_o as_o touch_v 9â—_n augustine_n his_o sentence_n be_v approve_v say_v they_o unaduised_o and_o that_o thereby_o a_o window_n be_v open_a to_o bring_v in_o all_o popery_n which_o be_v a_o lewd_a reproach_n for_o the_o antiquity_n of_o the_o name_n of_o archdeacon_n 144_o be_v allege_v by_o d.w._n the_o testimony_n of_o damasus_n jerome_n sixtus_n sozemene_n &_o socrates_n to_o who_o authority_n their_o answer_n be_v 502.303_o two_o of_o they_o be_v counterfeit_v damasus_n speak_v in_o the_o dragon_n voice_n among_o man_n the_o best_a ground_n bear_v thistle_n those_o time_n be_v corrupt_a and_o yet_o sixtus_n live_v bishop_n of_o rome_n about_o the_o year_n 265._o and_o be_v a_o godly_a martyr_n a_o number_n of_o authority_n be_v cite_v which_o affirm_v that_o timothy_n be_v bishop_n of_o ephesus_n as_o eusebius_n dorotheus_n nicephorus_n jerome_n isidorus_n dionysius_n areopagita_n epiphanius_n ambrose_n chrisostome_n oecumenius_n theodoret_n etc._n etc._n their_o answer_n be_v 313_o they_o esteem_v he_o a_o bishop_n indeed_o and_o not_o a_o evangelist_n but_o what_o then_o if_o they_o be_v for_o one_o a_o hundred_o they_o can_v countervail_v much_o less_o bear_v down_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o though_o they_o ever_o purpose_v any_o such_o matter_n but_o it_o go_v hard_a when_o for_o a_o matter_n of_o history_n all_o these_o worthy_a father_n can_v find_v no_o better_a credit_n if_o timothy_n be_v bishop_n of_o ephesus_n d.w._n i_o trust_v he_o will_v not_o say_v that_o the_o apostle_n be_v overbear_v and_o that_o he_o be_v bishop_n all_o these_o affirm_v it_o who_o live_v near_o to_o the_o apostle_n time_n shall_v know_v aswell_o as_o cartwright_n what_o be_v in_o fact_n then_o and_o be_v both_o as_o religious_a and_o as_o learned_a as_o he_o will_v pretend_v to_o be_v can_v as_o easy_o have_v espy_v what_o repugnance_n there_o be_v betwixt_o that_o practice_n and_o the_o apostle_n writing_n and_o will_v as_o earnest_o have_v reproove_v it_o if_o there_o have_v be_v any_o as_o he_o saint_n cyprian_n and_o saint_n jerome_n be_v of_o opinion_n nay_o s._n jerome_n say_v it_o be_v the_o opinion_n and_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o whole_a catholic_a church_n for_o so_o i_o interpret_v his_o word_n the_o whole_a world_n that_o for_o the_o avoid_n of_o schism_n and_o heresy_n it_o be_v necessary_a that_o there_o shall_v be_v one_o bishop_n in_o every_o diocese_n as_o our_o learned_a writer_n have_v think_v of_o those_o place_n write_v against_o the_o papist_n to_o govern_v and_o over-rule_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o priest_n within_o their_o charge_n lest_o otherwise_o as_o by_o experience_n it_o be_v find_v among_o the_o corinthian_n there_o will_v be_v in_o short_a time_n as_o many_o schism_n &_o altar_n as_o there_o be_v priest_n and_o head_n and_o that_o every_o one_o may_v not_o carry_v his_o scholar_n after_o he_o and_o so_o follow_v their_o own_o fancy_n tear_v in_o piece_n the_o church_n of_o christ._n with_o they_o in_o like_a manner_n all_o the_o godly_a general_a counsel_n since_o that_o time_n have_v agree_v &_o find_v daily_o new_a mischief_n to_o arise_v which_o be_v not_o before_o hatch_v have_v for_o the_o meeting_n with_o they_o increase_v accordinglye_o the_o authority_n of_o bishop_n and_o so_o keep_v the_o church_n in_o good_a order_n at_o the_o least_o for_o above_o five_o hundred_o year_n since_o which_o time_n although_o the_o pope_n with_o extreme_a injury_n to_o all_o other_o bishop_n have_v lift_v himself_o by_o a_o false_a title_n above_o not_o only_o they_o but_o above_o all_o king_n &_o emperor_n in_o like_a manner_n never_o cease_v till_o he_o have_v set_v himself_o in_o the_o seat_n of_o the_o beast_n yet_o with_o many_o other_o point_n of_o christianity_n this_o also_o have_v be_v preserve_v that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o bishop_n in_o every_o kingdom_n province_n and_o diocese_n be_v apostolical_a and_o not_o only_o in_o that_o respect_n to_o be_v for_o ever_o continue_v but_o necessary_a also_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o cause_n before_o mention_v but_o now_o all_o this_o be_v reckon_v nothing_o there_o be_v some_o two_o or_o three_o that_o do_v take_v upon_o they_o to_o prove_v forsooth_o that_o all_o the_o say_a father_n etc._n of_o the_o primative_a church_n all_o counsel_n and_o all_o whosoever_o that_o have_v like_v that_o ordinance_n judgement_n have_v be_v deceive_v in_o their_o judgement_n in_o that_o they_o have_v account_v the_o institution_n of_o bishop_n &_o their_o government_n to_o be_v a_o mean_n for_o the_o avoid_v of_o schism_n or_o for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n but_o how_o they_o prove_v it_o i_o will_v not_o stand_v now_o upon_o that_o point_n it_o be_v forsooth_o in_o a_o word_n by_o discourse_n of_o reason_n whereof_o cartwright_n brag_v and_o for_o that_o as_o they_o say_v there_o be_v great_a controversy_n in_o the_o church_n notwithstanding_o their_o institution_n etc._n etc._n and_o now_o it_o be_v their_o eldership_n must_v wear_v the_o crown_n and_o reform_v all_o that_o be_v amiss_o well_o what_o we_o be_v to_o think_v of_o their_o eldership_n we_o partly_o have_v see_v and_o yet_o shall_v hear_v more_o before_o i_o have_v do_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n it_o be_v evident_a how_o they_o oppose_v their_o own_o judgement_n to_o all_o the_o world_n since_o christ_n time_n cyrillus_n for_o call_v the_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d high_a priest_n as_o ignatius_n have_v do_v in_o effect_n before_o baptis_fw-la the_o prince_n or_o chief_a of_o priest_n and_o tertullian_n also_o episcopus_fw-la est_fw-la summus_fw-la sacerdos_n the_o bishop_n be_v the_o high_a priest_n be_v wonderful_o censure_v he_o that_o bring_v in_o a_o priest_n into_o the_o church_n say_v cartwright_n go_v about_o to_o bury_v our_o saviour_n christ._n 114._o and_o as_o for_o he_o that_o bring_v in_o a_o high_a priest_n into_o the_o church_n he_o go_v about_o to_o put_v our_o saviour_n christ_n out_o of_o his_o office_n this_o that_o he_o affirm_v here_o touch_v not_o only_a cyrill_n but_o the_o most_o i_o be_o sure_a of_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n who_o be_v as_o careful_a for_o the_o office_n and_o prerogative_n of_o christ_n and_o have_v write_v as_o many_o notable_a work_v against_o such_o heretic_n as_o have_v impugn_a his_o sovereignty_n in_o any_o respect_n as_o ever_o he_o or_o his_o sectary_n have_v write_v or_o i_o think_v will_v do_v but_o his_o breath_n may_v well_o blast_v himself_o they_o i_o doubt_v not_o be_v in_o heaven_n and_o
against_o he_o do_v translate_v for_o diocese_n parish_n as_o in_o this_o place_n he_o do_v it_o with_o a_o most_o brazen_a forehead_n the_o council_n of_o nice_a of_o antioch_n of_o carthage_n and_o of_o sardis_n direct_o prove_v that_o bishop_n only_o have_v authority_n to_o excommunicate_v 91_o cartwright_n give_v no_o other_o answer_n unto_o they_o but_o this_o that_o master_n caluin_n say_v how_o bishop_n in_o excommunicate_v after_o that_o manner_n deal_v therein_o ambitious_o athanasius_n say_v that_o dionysius_n bishop_n of_o alexandria_n have_v the_o church_n of_o pentapolis_n commit_v to_o his_o care_n cartwright_n say_v 622_o that_o care_n import_v not_o jurisdiction_n and_o so_o as_o to_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a and_o of_o antioch_n cyprian_n say_v the_o cause_n of_o heresy_n and_o schism_n be_v this_o that_o priest_n will_v not_o obey_v their_o bb._n cartwright_n that_o answer_v that_o be_v in_o effect_n if_o his_o unpreach_a alderman_n will_v not_o obey_v their_o pastor_n 6â—_n epiphanius_n speak_v of_o one_o peter_n a_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n say_v this_o be_v the_o custom_n that_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n shall_v have_v the_o ecclesiastiasticall_a government_n of_o all_o egypt_n thebais_n mariota_n libya_n ammonica_fw-la mariotes_n &_o pentapolis_n whereupon_o cartwright_n glose_v thus_o that_o be_v beside_o his_o own_o church_n 56â—_n he_o procure_v the_o good_a of_o other_o church_n round_o about_o he_o 69_o again_o epiphanius_n of_o one_o miletus_n a_o archbishop_n that_o he_o be_v subject_a or_o under_o the_o say_a peter_n archbishop_n of_o alexandria_n cartwright_n say_v that_o every_o bishop_n of_o name_n be_v call_v a_o archbishop_n 560._o and_o where_o it_o be_v say_v miletus_n be_v under_o peter_n that_o be_v under_o he_o in_o honour_n and_o not_o subject_a unto_o he_o say_v cartwright_n contrary_a to_o the_o manifest_a word_n and_o meaning_n of_o the_o author_n theodoret_n bishop_n of_o cyprus_n say_v of_o himself_o that_o he_o have_v the_o government_n over_o 800._o church_n cartwright_n say_v in_o effect_n that_o he_o lie_v that_o his_o word_n concern_v his_o care_n in_o govern_v those_o church_n be_v speak_v of_o himself_o want_v not_o suspicion_n and_o that_o he_o be_v condemn_v for_o write_v against_o cirill_n never_o mention_v how_o he_o be_v wrongful_o condemn_v in_o his_o absence_n and_o afterward_o restore_v i_o omit_v a_o number_n of_o their_o other_o shift_n and_o presumptuous_a deal_n with_o the_o father_n 41_o as_o of_o epiphanius_n for_o he_o it_o be_v know_v of_o what_o authority_n he_o be_v etc._n etc._n it_o be_v better_a to_o lay_v his_o word_n against_o aerius_n 528_o upon_o some_o counterfeit_n and_o false_a epiphanius_n to_o spare_v his_o credit_n likewise_o of_o ambrose_n many_o error_n &_o corrupt_a exposition_n be_v find_v in_o his_o work_n in_o his_o exposition_n upon_o the_o place_n to_o the_o philippian_n a_o child_n may_v see_v how_o violent_o he_o force_v the_o text._n and_o also_o their_o reject_v of_o counsel_n by_o heap_n etc._n etc._n where_o they_o have_v no_o colour_n how_o they_o may_v pervert_v they_o but_o yet_o i_o may_v not_o let_v this_o escape_n my_o finger_n that_o cartwright_n whether_o for_o his_o own_o glory_n or_o else_o that_o god_n will_v have_v he_o to_o be_v the_o instrument_n of_o his_o own_o shame_n be_v well_o content_a rather_o than_o he_o will_v want_v testimony_n to_o encounter_v with_o the_o authority_n of_o bishop_n to_o sort_n both_o himself_o &_o all_o his_o follower_n in_o the_o number_n of_o those_o that_o ever_o since_o the_o apostle_n time_n have_v repine_v at_o that_o authority_n &_o thereupon_o have_v be_v overrule_v by_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o counsel_n as_o busy_a body_n &_o schismatic_n you_o shall_v hear_v his_o word_n and_o then_o judge_v whether_o i_o have_v mistake_v they_o 580_o to_o what_o end_n both_o in_o the_o nicene_n council_n and_o in_o many_o other_o hold_v more_o than_o two_o hundred_o year_n after_o be_v there_o find_v so_o many_o canon_n for_o the_o acknowledge_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o one_o metropolitan_a in_o every_o province_n for_o the_o honour_n which_o he_o shall_v have_v the_o name_n he_o shall_v be_v call_v by_o for_o the_o place_n where_o he_o shall_v sit_v at_o their_o meeting_n for_o the_o bound_n of_o their_o circuit_n do_v not_o all_o these_o declare_v that_o there_o be_v some_o which_o be_v enemy_n to_o that_o authority_n etc._n etc._n to_o this_o i_o may_v add_v his_o defence_n to_o aerius_n and_o his_o confutation_n of_o epiphanius_n not_o without_o some_o discredit_n to_o saint_n augustine_n last_o whatsoever_o be_v say_v or_o may_v be_v say_v hereafter_o out_o of_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o history_n and_o out_o of_o all_o the_o general_a counsel_n concern_v the_o say_a government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o bishop_n archbishop_n and_o patriarch_n of_o their_o institution_n authority_n title_n circuit_n and_o prerogative_n cartwright_n do_v take_v upon_o he_o most_o bold_o &_o most_o false_o to_o prescribe_v unto_o we_o certain_a rule_n how_o we_o must_v understand_v they_o or_o otherwise_o there_o be_v not_o one_o of_o they_o that_o will_v be_v allow_v of_o i_o blush_v in_o his_o behalf_n i_o assure_v you_o to_o set_v it_o down_o and_o be_o ashamed_a that_o any_o man_n bear_v the_o name_n of_o a_o christian_a shall_v deal_v so_o like_o a_o impostor_n but_o this_o it_o be_v that_o it_o may_v appear_v say_v he_o what_o the_o father_n and_o council_n do_v mean_a when_o they_o give_v more_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o any_o one_o church_n then_o to_o the_o elder_a of_o the_o same_o church_n 19.110_o and_o that_o no_o man_n be_v deceive_v by_o the_o name_n of_o governor_n or_o ruler_n over_o the_o rest_n to_o fancy_v any_o such_o authority_n and_o domination_n or_o lordship_n as_o we_o see_v use_v in_o our_o church_n it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v that_o amongst_o the_o pastor_n elder_n and_o deacon_n of_o every_o particular_a church_n and_o in_o the_o meeting_n and_o company_n of_o the_o minister_n or_o elder_n of_o diverse_a church_n there_o be_v one_o choose_v by_o the_o voice_n &_o suffrage_n of_o they_o all_o or_o the_o most_o part_n which_o do_v propound_v the_o matter_n that_o be_v to_o be_v handle_v whether_o they_o be_v difficulty_n to_o be_v solute_v or_o punishment_n &_o censure_n to_o be_v decree_v upon_o those_o that_o have_v fault_v or_o whether_o there_o be_v election_n to_o be_v make_v or_o what_o other_o matter_n so_o ever_o occasion_n be_v give_v to_o entreat_v off_o the_o which_o also_o gather_v the_o voice_n &_o reason_n of_o those_o which_o have_v interest_n to_o speak_v in_o such_o cause_n which_o also_o do_v pronounce_v according_a to_o the_o number_n of_o the_o voice_n which_o be_v give_v which_o be_v also_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o rest_n to_o admonish_v or_o to_o comfort_n or_o to_o rebuke_v sharp_o such_o as_o be_v to_o receive_v admonishment_n consolation_n or_o rebuke_v &_o which_o in_o a_o word_n do_v moderate_v that_o whole_a action_n which_o be_v do_v for_o that_o time_n they_o be_v assemble_v etc._n etc._n and_o must_v we_o thus_o understande_v the_o father_n &_o general_a counsel_n he_o may_v as_o true_o say_v that_o the_o present_a form_n of_o our_o ecclesiastical_a government_n in_o england_n under_o her_o majesty_n by_o archbishop_n and_o bishop_n be_v even_o the_o very_a same_o manner_n of_o church-government_n that_o he_o &_o his_o follower_n look_v for_o &_o the_o right_a platform_n of_o those_o eldership_n which_o have_v so_o mighty_o bewitch_v they_o man_n that_o once_o have_v pass_v the_o limit_n of_o modesty_n may_v afterward_o say_v &_o write_v what_o they_o listen_v the_o ancient_a father_n have_v deserve_v far_o otherwise_o of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n then_o that_o for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o such_o a_o forgery_n as_o the_o pretend_a form_n of_o discipline_n be_v they_o shall_v be_v use_v after_o any_o such_o manner_n i_o will_v wish_v all_o man_n that_o be_v of_o this_o proud_a &_o presumptuous_a humour_n to_o peruse_v the_o book_n which_o s_n augustine_n have_v write_v against_o julianus_n the_o pelagian_n there_o they_o shall_v find_v the_o very_a same_o contemptuous_a spirit_n in_o julianus_n that_o reign_v in_o themselves_o &_o exalt_v itself_o so_o great_o against_o the_o godly_a &_o learned_a father_n as_o also_o on_o the_o other_o side_n they_o shall_v there_o see_v the_o fruit_n of_o god_n spirit_n uz._n in_o what_o reverend_a account_n &_o very_o high_a estimation_n s._n augustine_n have_v such_o worthy_a &_o holy_a man_n by_o name_n as_o here_o you_o have_v hear_v very_o contumelious_o disgrace_v 4._o childish_o neglect_v disdainful_o contemn_v and_o most_o proud_o reject_v ita_fw-la intellexit_fw-la ambrose_n ita_fw-la cyprianus_n ita_fw-la gregorius_n etc._n etc._n so_o ambrose_n understand_v such_o a_o place_n of_o the_o
allege_v and_o expound_v by_o he_o as_o you_o have_v hear_v urge_v he_o very_o earnest_o that_o he_o will_v indeed_o tell_v he_o true_o whether_o he_o be_v a_o man_n of_o learning_n and_o so_o can_v not_o be_v ignorant_a of_o eusebius_n meaning_n do_v not_o sin_n even_o against_o his_o own_o conscience_n when_o he_o cite_v that_o place_n to_o such_o a_o end_n and_o purpose_n as_o he_o have_v do_v his_o answer_n be_v that_o he_o do_v not_o and_o that_o he_o be_v still_o of_o the_o same_o mind_n therein_o that_o he_o be_v before_o why_o sir_n reply_v my_o friend_n as_o eusebius_n say_v that_o there_o be_v a_o infinite_a number_n of_o elder_n and_o deacon_n which_o come_v to_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a with_o the_o 250_o bishop_n 8._o so_o it_o be_v report_v by_o socrates_n that_o in_o the_o say_a council_n it_o have_v be_v decree_v by_o the_o bishop_n &c._n &c._n but_o for_o paphnutius_fw-la that_o bishop_n elder_n &_o deacon_n shall_v have_v company_v no_o more_o with_o their_o wife_n quas_fw-la cum_fw-la erant_fw-la laivi_fw-la in_o matrimonium_fw-la duxissent_fw-la which_o they_o have_v marry_v when_o they_o be_v lay-menne_n and_o now_o must_v we_o expound_v socrates_n in_o this_o place_n as_o you_o do_v expound_v eusebius_n do_v socrates_n mean_a by_o priest_n there_o your_o manner_n of_o lay_v elder_n be_v the_o council_n bend_v to_o have_v debar_v such_o man_n from_o their_o wife_n speak_v your_o conscience_n true_o i_o pray_v you_o master_n cartwright_n answer_v again_o that_o he_o very_o think_v in_o his_o conscience_n that_o by_o priest_n there_o socrates_n understand_v the_o say_a elder_n and_o that_o the_o council_n mean_v to_o have_v separate_v they_o from_o their_o wife_n and_o this_o reason_n be_v because_o within_o a_o while_n after_o there_o be_v some_o question_n whether_o subdeacons_n might_n marry_v my_o say_a friend_n reply_v again_o that_o he_o be_v very_o sorry_a to_o hear_v his_o answer_n and_o that_o he_o very_o think_v the_o like_a interpretation_n of_o socrates_n word_n be_v never_o make_v before_o nor_o will_v ever_o be_v make_v he_o hope_v by_o any_o after_o he_o and_o so_o they_o part_v afterwards_o my_o say_a friend_n find_v that_o when_o he_o tell_v some_o person_n of_o great_a place_n how_o m._n cartwright_n do_v expound_v the_o say_a word_n of_o socrates_n they_o will_v hardly_o believe_v he_o but_o suppose_v rather_o that_o he_o have_v mistake_v they_o do_v write_v a_o letter_n unto_o he_o desiringe_v he_o most_o earnest_o that_o if_o he_o continue_v in_o the_o same_o mind_n he_o leave_v he_o he_o will_v be_v content_a to_o return_v unto_o he_o in_o write_v some_o further_a reason_n thereof_o then_o former_o he_o make_v at_o his_o be_v with_o he_o master_n cartwright_n hereupon_o write_v back_o again_o unto_o my_o friend_n i_o have_v his_o letter_n in_o my_o custody_n excuse_v himself_o that_o through_o want_n of_o book_n he_o can_v not_o satisfy_v his_o expectation_n so_o full_o as_o he_o will_v but_o for_o the_o point_n 15.90_o i_o speak_v of_o thus_o he_o write_v touch_v that_o it_o seem_v strange_a unto_o you_o that_o the_o govern_v elder_n shall_v have_v be_v in_o danger_n to_o have_v be_v forbid_v marriage_n in_o the_o council_n of_o niece_n i_o think_v i_o have_v satisfy_v you_o in_o allege_v that_o not_o long_o after_o there_o be_v great_a hold_n among_o the_o counsel_n whether_o deacon_n yea_o subdeacons_n shall_v be_v marry_v so_o as_o now_o that_o which_o before_o stand_v only_o upon_o the_o credit_n of_o the_o relator_n be_v ready_a to_o be_v show_v under_o master_n cartwright'_v hand_n as_o it_o have_v already_o be_v to_o diverse_a of_o this_o disciplinarie_a disposition_n who_o as_o i_o have_v be_v inform_v and_o partly_o do_v know_v all_o of_o they_o have_v utter_o signify_v their_o great_a dislike_n of_o that_o point_n and_o yet_o either_o he_o must_v of_o necessity_n so_o interpret_v socrates_n or_o else_o be_v drive_v to_o give_v over_o eusebius_n and_o so_o both_o he_o and_o all_o his_o alderman_n to_o take_v their_o leave_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a history_n and_o bid_v they_o adieu_o but_o yet_o there_o be_v another_o thing_n in_o master_n cartwright'_v say_v letter_n which_o be_v very_o fit_a for_o you_o to_o understand_v that_o so_o you_o may_v see_v how_o he_o foil_v himself_o one_o thing_n say_v he_o unto_o my_o say_a friend_n in_o your_o letter_n i_o think_v you_o mistake_v i_o in_o that_o you_o esteem_v that_o i_o shall_v hold_v a_o bishop_n and_o a_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n all_o one_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o nicene_n council_n for_o notwithstanding_o that_o i_o hold_v that_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o with_o s._n paul_n it_o be_v all_o one_o to_o be_v a_o bishop_n and_o to_o be_v a_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n yet_o it_o be_v a_o foul_a ignorance_n in_o i_o if_o i_o shall_v not_o have_v know_v that_o long_o before_o the_o council_n of_o niece_n the_o name_n of_o bishop_n be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n appropriate_v to_o one_o in_o a_o church_n cosider_v i_o pray_v you_o how_o the_o man_n be_v mistake_v if_o by_o elder_n eusebius_n shall_v have_v mean_v his_o counteirfet_n lie_v ruler_n must_v he_o not_o then_o by_o his_o 250_o bishop_n most_o necessary_o have_v mean_v so_o many_o parish_n minister_n pastor_n or_o parson_n except_o he_o will_v say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o minister_n there_o which_o be_v as_o new_a a_o paradox_n as_o the_o rest_n but_o how_o agree_v this_o of_o the_o difference_n he_o confess_v betwixt_o a_o bishop_n and_o a_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n long_o before_o the_o council_n of_o niece_n with_o some_o other_o of_o his_o say_n elsewhere_o in_o print_n such_o as_o there_o be_v 99_o the_o bishop_n that_o ignatius_n speak_v of_o be_v but_o the_o minister_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n again_o cyprian_n bishop_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o s._n paul_n bishop_n that_o be_v one_o that_o have_v cure_v and_o charge_n of_o one_o flock_n 100_o again_o the_o bishop_n which_o s._n cyprian_n speak_v of_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o such_o as_o we_o call_v pastor_n or_o as_o the_o common_a name_n with_o we_o be_v parson_n and_o his_o church_n whereof_o he_o be_v bishop_n be_v neither_o diocese_n nor_o province_n but_o a_o congregation_n which_o meet_v together_o in_o one_o place_n and_o be_v teach_v of_o one_o man_n now_o join_v these_o thing_n together_o and_o see_v what_o a_o gallimawfrie_n you_o have_v may_v not_o a_o man_n misdoubt_v that_o master_n cartwright_n be_v not_o yet_o resolve_v of_o his_o own_o opinion_n have_v not_o his_o scholar_n great_a cause_n to_o rejoice_v in_o glain_v after_o so_o constant_a a_o author_n what_o can_v he_o pretend_v to_o salve_v his_o credit_n withal_o he_o will_v never_o seek_v a_o refuge_n for_o shame_n out_o of_o these_o word_n uz._n for_o the_o most_o part_n as_o though_o he_o shall_v thus_o expound_v s._n jerome_n where_o he_o say_v that_o when_o some_o begin_v to_o hold_v of_o peter_n some_o upon_o paul_n and_o some_o upon_o apollo_n which_o be_v as_o i_o take_v it_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n it_o be_v then_o decree_v throughout_o all_o the_o world_n that_o for_o avoid_v of_o schism_n one_o minister_n who_o be_v call_v a_o bishop_n shall_v have_v authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n over_o all_o other_o minister_n in_o his_o diocese_n that_o be_v true_a shall_v cartwright_n say_v throughout_o all_o the_o world_n except_o at_o antioch_n and_o carthage_n then_o little_a hamblet_n where_o ignatius_n and_o s._n cyprian_n be_v but_o plain_a parson_n even_o like_o the_o parson_n of_o hitchin_n and_o newington_n not_o many_o year_n since_o a_o friend_n of_o i_o be_v command_v for_o a_o certain_a purpose_n to_o contrive_v the_o cheese_n matter_n in_o controversy_n about_o the_o pretend_a discipline_n into_o certain_a question_n and_o it_o be_v pertinent_a to_o the_o matter_n i_o now_o speak_v of_o to_o acquaint_v you_o with_o two_o of_o they_o the_o first_o because_o of_o the_o pretence_n which_o be_v make_v as_o you_o have_v hear_v of_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v this_o question_n whether_o can_v it_o be_v show_v out_o of_o any_o ancient_a father_n out_o of_o any_o council_n either_o general_a or_o provincial_a or_o out_o of_o any_o ecclesiastical_a history_n for_o the_o space_n of_o 1500_o and_o odd_a year_n even_o from_o the_o apostle_n time_n till_o of_o late_a that_o in_o the_o ordinary_a distribution_n of_o church-officer_n since_o that_o time_n ever_o use_v into_o episcopos_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la &_o diaconos_fw-la bishop_n priest_n &_o deacons_n whether_o can_v it_o i_o say_v be_z show_v that_o this_o word_n episcopus_fw-la that_o be_v bishop_n be_v at_o any_o time_n take_v there_o and_o use_v by_o the_o church_n in_o any_o country_n for_o a_o common_a and_o usual_a
he_o and_o whole_o agree_v with_o erastus_n mind_n uz._n that_o thereby_o moses_n meaning_n be_v as_o it_o be_v word_n for_o word_n set_v down_o by_o the_o prophet_n ezechiel_n that_o the_o priest_n shall_v teach_v the_o people_n out_o of_o the_o law_n what_o be_v holy_a what_o unholy_a what_o clean_o what_o pollute_v and_o that_o as_o malachy_n say_v the_o priest_n be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v the_o interpreter_n of_o the_o law_n now_o if_o master_n beza_n master_n cartwright_n and_o the_o rest_n will_v stand_v to_o master_n caluins_n judgement_n who_o be_v so_o excellent_a a_o interpreter_n of_o the_o scripture_n what_o shall_v become_v of_o their_o eldership_n neither_o moses_n the_o chronicle_n jeremie_n nor_o ezechiel_n can_v help_v they_o and_o to_o have_v erastus_n exposition_n thus_o justify_v and_o they_o reject_v i_o suppose_v they_o will_v not_o endure_v it_o their_o only_a shift_n then_o &_o plea_n must_v needs_o be_v as_o i_o take_v it_o that_o first_o where_o they_o extol_v m._n caluin_n so_o high_o for_o his_o interpretation_n of_o the_o scripture_n their_o meaning_n be_v always_o to_o except_v themselves_o and_o second_o as_o concern_v their_o offer_n that_o they_o be_v yet_o content_a if_o we_o will_v to_o refer_v it_o to_o m._n caluins_n judgement_n whether_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v a_o eldership_n or_o not_o in_o every_o parish_n marry_o for_o the_o proof_n that_o must_v uphold_v it_o for_o the_o time_n of_o the_o institution_n of_o it_o and_o for_o such_o matter_n therein_o they_o will_v leave_v he_o as_o never_o mean_v to_o be_v judge_v by_o he_o in_o those_o point_n which_o be_v as_o though_o the_o eye_n and_o the_o ear_n shall_v say_v the_o one_o that_o it_o can_v see_v better_o &_o the_o other_o that_o it_o can_v hear_v better_o than_o he_o himself_o that_o make_v both_o the_o eye_n and_o the_o ear_n well_o i_o be_o full_o persuade_v that_o if_o m._n caluin_n be_v now_o again_o at_o geneva_n but_o for_o 3_o or_o 4_o day_n and_o shall_v find_v m._n beza_n with_o all_o his_o partaker_n cartwright_n junius_n &_o the_o rest_n so_o mighty_o plunge_v for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o his_o devise_n as_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v drive_v some_o of_o they_o to_o run_v into_o egypt_n some_o into_o the_o wilderness_n to_o mount_v sinai_n some_o they_o know_v not_o whither_o and_o all_o of_o they_o to_o run_v so_o far_o out_o of_o his_o path_n he_o will_v be_v great_o offend_v &_o much_o amaze_v at_o the_o matter_n can_v he_o take_v it_o in_o any_o good_a part_n that_o beza_n special_o be_v a_o man_n who_o he_o have_v make_v such_o choice_n of_o to_o be_v a_o principal_a defender_n of_o the_o consistoriall_a discipline_n shall_v by_o his_o intermeddle_v with_o the_o government_n of_o other_o church_n have_v pull_v so_o many_o man_n upon_o he_o as_o that_o for_o the_o defence_n of_o his_o own_o at_o home_n he_o shall_v be_v drive_v to_o seek_v the_o first_o institution_n of_o it_o in_o levit._n 10._o v._o 10._o &_o either_o there_o to_o hunt_v it_o out_o or_o to_o give_v it_o over_o in_o the_o plain_a field_n sure_o there_o be_v great_a reason_n he_o shall_v but_o what_o be_v that_o to_o i_o otherwise_o than_o that_o you_o thereby_o may_v be_v inform_v what_o constant_a hold_v their_o pretend_a holy_a eldership_n have_v hither_o to_o find_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o how_o they_o agree_v in_o the_o interpretation_n of_o such_o scripture_n as_o shall_v sustain_v they_o last_o as_o touch_v master_n caluin_v own_o opinion_n for_o the_o institution_n of_o his_o eldership_n after_o the_o captivity_n of_o the_o jew_n there_o do_v not_o come_v into_o my_o memory_n at_o this_o present_a any_o especial_a place_n allege_v by_o he_o out_o of_o the_o scripture_n to_o that_o purpose_n neither_o do_v i_o find_v in_o he_o so_o much_o as_o that_o god_n do_v ever_o command_v this_o sanedrim_n which_o he_o speak_v of_o to_o be_v ever_o erect_v only_o he_o say_v hoc_fw-la legitimum_fw-la fuit_fw-la deoque_fw-la probatum_fw-la regimen_fw-la 18._o they_o be_v a_o lawful_a regiment_n &_o allow_v of_o god_n allowed_n of_o god_n not_o command_v i_o know_v that_o cartwright_n &_o some_o other_o 40._o do_v bring_v for_o the_o continuance_n of_o their_o pretend_a eldership_n after_o the_o captivity_n certain_a place_n out_o of_o ezra_n &_o nehemiah_n 101._o where_o there_o be_v mention_v make_v of_o the_o chief_a of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o elder_n 10.8_o likewise_o of_o certain_a that_o stand_v by_o ezra_n 8.4.7.9_o when_o he_o preach_v to_o the_o people_n but_o the_o place_n be_v so_o apparent_o wrest_v as_o no_o man_n that_o read_v they_o can_v be_v so_o dull_a but_o he_o must_v needs_o discern_v it_o but_o i_o marvel_v 18._o what_o master_n caluin_n mean_v when_o attribute_v to_o the_o sinedrium_n or_o council_n erect_v by_o the_o jew_n after_o their_o return_n from_o babylon_n censuram_fw-la morum_fw-la &_o doctrinae_fw-la the_o censure_n of_o manner_n and_o doctrine_n in_o another_o place_n where_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o say_a constitution_n or_o erect_v of_o it_o he_o affirm_v 16._o that_o the_o 70_o elder_n which_o be_v from_o time_n to_o time_n choose_v to_o be_v of_o the_o sanedrim_n be_v of_o the_o stock_n of_o david_n and_o of_o their_o former_a king_n i_o hope_v they_o will_v not_o say_v that_o consequent_o their_o counterfeit_a elder_n ought_v all_o of_o they_o to_o be_v of_o the_o blood_n royal_a but_o brief_o for_o this_o matter_n of_o the_o sanedrim_n or_o court_v of_o justice_n after_o the_o captivity_n i_o can_v judge_v they_o to_o be_v any_o other_o than_o such_o court_n and_o assembly_n as_o be_v before_o ordain_v by_o moses_n and_o have_v to_o do_v as_o well_o in_o civil_a cawl_n 1._o as_o ecclesiastical_a as_o it_o may_v at_o large_a appear_v to_o those_o that_o will_v take_v the_o pain_n to_o read_v some_o part_n of_o doctor_n sutclifs_fw-fr book_n whither_o for_o this_o time_n if_o they_o listen_v i_o send_v they_o and_o so_o leave_v any_o further_a to_o trouble_v you_o with_o this_o disciplinarie_a harmony_n draw_v by_o the_o ear_n out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n i_o will_v come_v to_o the_o new_a many_o thing_n have_v be_v speak_v of_o throughout_o the_o whole_a course_n of_o this_o book_n which_o may_v be_v fit_a for_o this_o place_n as_o their_o jar_a and_o disagreement_n in_o every_o chapter_n almost_o hitherto_o which_o always_o do_v rise_v because_o that_o every_o one_o of_o they_o in_o effect_n if_o he_o account_v himself_o to_o be_v any_o body_n will_v writhe_v and_o expound_v the_o scripture_n as_o occasion_n serve_v and_o his_o affection_n do_v move_v he_o the_o most_o of_o those_o place_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n that_o master_n caluin_n do_v expound_v of_o pastor_n and_o preacher_n only_o beza_n junius_n cartwright_n and_o other_o of_o the_o disciplinarie_a mould_n and_o no_o man_n else_o do_v wrest_v and_o violent_o draw_v they_o unto_o their_o alderman_n 26.16_o they_o forsooth_o be_v prophet_n to_o who_o the_o spirit_n of_o other_o prophet_n must_v be_v subject_a they_o be_v bishop_n for_o the_o feed_n of_o christ_n flock_n of_o their_o office_n it_o be_v say_v that_o he_o who_o desire_v a_o bishopric_n desire_v a_o good_a work_n that_o which_o s._n paul_n speak_v of_o himself_o as_o that_o he_o be_v a_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o a_o witness_v appoint_v of_o those_o thing_n which_o he_o have_v see_v when_o the_o lord_n appear_v unto_o he_o as_o he_o be_v go_v to_o damascus_n junius_n will_v needs_o extend_v to_o these_o consistoriall_a companion_n hereof_o you_o may_v see_v more_o in_o the_o sixth_o chapter_n where_o they_o ascribe_v unto_o they_o all_o those_o name_n that_o since_o the_o apostle_n time_n have_v only_o be_v give_v to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n master_n caluins_n authority_n be_v little_o regard_v in_o this_o behalf_n even_o of_o those_o man_n who_o account_v he_o the_o best_a interpreter_n of_o the_o scripture_n that_o ever_o be_v in_o the_o world_n these_o 1500_o year_n cartwright_n be_v press_v sometime_o with_o master_n caluins_n authority_n in_o expound_v certain_a place_n to_o be_v mean_v of_o pastor_n and_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n where_o he_o will_v needs_o thrust_v in_o among_o they_o his_o alderman_n do_v use_v this_o wrangle_a shift_n viz._n that_o although_o m._n caluin_n say_v that_o such_o minister_n be_v there_o understand_v yet_o he_o say_v not_o that_o they_o only_o be_v there_o understand_v by_o the_o which_o manner_n of_o evasion_n what_o can_v be_v speak_v that_o may_v not_o be_v pervert_v i_o do_v not_o remember_v that_o the_o scripture_n do_v say_v in_o any_o place_n that_o christ_n have_v only_o twelve_o apostle_n and_o then_o by_o cartwrights_n shift_n we_o may_v say_v he_o have_v as_o many_o as_o we_o listen_v