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A86483 An examination of sundry Scriptures alleadged by our brethren, in defence of some particulars of their church-way. Humbly submitted to the sight and censure of any judicious divine: especially of such of the reverend godly-learned Assembly as vouchsafe to read it. By R. Hollingworth, M.A. of Magd. Col. Camb. Imprimatur, Ja. Cranford. Decemb. 17. 1644. Hollingworth, Richard, 1607-1656. 1645 (1645) Wing H2492; Thomason E24_6; ESTC R7700 24,410 32

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