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A03500 A sermon of obedience especially vnto authoritie ecclesiasticall, wherein the principall controuersies of our church are handled, and many of their obiections which are refractorie to the gouernment established, answered, though briefly as time and place could permit: being preached at a visitation of the right worshipfull M.D. Hinton,in Couentry. By Fran: Holyoke. Holyoake, Francis, 1567-1653. 1613 (1613) STC 13623; ESTC S115476 21,457 38

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but_o that_o every_o man_n shall_v be_v leave_v to_o his_o own_o liberty_n we_o shall_v have_v so_o many_o several_a congregation_n so_o many_o diverse_a religion_n we_o see_v the_o variety_n of_o opinion_n touch_v the_o gesture_n in_o receive_v the_o communion_n though_o there_o be_v order_n set_v down_o for_o the_o receive_n of_o it_o kneel_v some_o hold_v it_o unlawful_a to_o kneel_v and_o deem_v that_o to_o receive_v stand_v be_v the_o best_a way_n as_o here_o in_o this_o place_n other_o condemn_v kneel_v as_o popish_a and_o idolatrous_a and_o hold_v stand_v as_o jewish_a as_o the_o other_o popish_a and_o therefore_o say_v that_o christ_n example_n in_o this_o must_v be_v unto_o we_o a_o law_n and_o rule_n from_o which_o we_o may_v not_o vary_v he_o receive_v it_o sit_v and_o therefore_o any_o other_o gesture_n unlawful_a thus_o we_o see_v if_o in_o this_o and_o other_o thing_n every_o man_n be_v leave_v to_o his_o own_o liberty_n what_o a_o endless_a work_n there_o will_v be_v there_o will_v be_v concord_n in_o nothing_o but_o in_o diversity_n and_o disagreement_n the_o use_n and_o end_n of_o these_o rite_n as_o d._n zanchie_n say_v be_v first_o that_o they_o may_v procure_v a_o reverence_n unto_o the_o holy_a thing_n and_o that_o by_o such_o help_v we_o may_v be_v stir_v up_o unto_o godliness_n &_o by_o a_o straight_a hand_n be_v lead_v unto_o christ_n the_o second_o end_n that_o modesty_n &_o gravity_n which_o in_o all_o other_o action_n ought_v to_o be_v regard_v may_v herein_o chief_o appear_v afterward_o he_o prove_v that_o ecclesiastical_a tradition_n and_o constitution_n be_v not_o mere_o humane_a but_o divine_a good_a true_a holy_a and_o please_v to_o god_n because_o they_o be_v ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v guide_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n which_o be_v truth_n for_o the_o particular_n they_o be_v partly_o humane_a and_o partly_o divine_a divine_a because_o they_o be_v a_o part_n of_o that_o order_n and_o decorum_n that_o god_n have_v command_v in_o general_a leave_v the_o particular_n to_o the_o discretion_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v frame_v according_a to_o the_o general_a rule_n now_o as_o there_o must_v of_o necessity_n be_v a_o uniform_a order_n in_o these_o thing_n prescribe_v so_o also_o be_v it_o no_o less_o necessary_a to_o see_v uniformity_n in_o the_o observance_n of_o these_o order_n for_o they_o be_v make_v to_o maintain_v and_o preserve_v unity_n and_o therefore_o general_o to_o be_v observe_v in_o those_o place_n where_o they_o be_v establish_v and_o if_o any_o inferior_a governor_n in_o the_o church_n who_o be_v to_o see_v uniform_a order_n to_o be_v observe_v will_v see_v some_o observe_v and_o some_o other_o wilful_o to_o be_v break_v it_o be_v in_o my_o opinion_n much_o better_a for_o they_o to_o be_v mean_n unto_o superior_a authority_n that_o those_o order_n which_o they_o think_v unfit_a be_v alter_v then_o that_o this_o liberty_n of_o diversity_n shall_v be_v give_v which_o breed_v so_o great_a scandal_n for_o i_o know_v by_o manifold_a experience_n the_o danger_n that_o this_o diversity_n of_o observe_v order_n bring_v some_o poor_a soul_n have_v and_o do_v stand_v amaze_v while_o they_o see_v in_o one_o parish_n one_o form_n of_o prayer_n and_o administer_a the_o sacrament_n and_o another_o in_o the_o next_o parish_n they_o think_v these_o be_v divers_a religion_n and_o doubt_n what_o they_o may_v follow_v hereupon_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o some_o fall_n to_o popery_n some_o to_o atheism_n &_o some_o to_o other_o heresy_n &_o schism_n these_o inconvenience_n be_v wise_o foresee_v in_o the_o establish_n of_o a_o act_n in_o parliament_n for_o uniformity_n and_o if_o political_a law_n of_o heathen_a prince_n be_v to_o be_v observe_v for_o conscience_n sake_n so_o that_o they_o enjoin_v not_o disobedience_n to_o god_n much_o more_o these_o that_o be_v for_o mainetenance_n of_o concord_n order_n and_o decency_n in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n aug._n epist_n 166._o hoc_fw-la iubent_fw-la imperatores_fw-la quod_fw-la iubet_fw-la &_o christus_fw-la quia_fw-la cum_fw-la bonum_fw-la iubent_fw-la per_fw-la illos_fw-la non_fw-la iubet_fw-la nisi_fw-la christus_fw-la that_o which_o king_n command_n that_o christ_n command_v because_o when_o as_o they_o command_v that_o which_o be_v good_a christ_n command_v by_o they_o ob_fw-la but_o many_o of_o our_o law_n ordinance_n and_o constitution_n say_v some_o be_v unlawful_a therefore_o not_o to_o be_v observe_v ans_fw-fr bucer_n be_v write_v unto_o by_o d._n cranmer_n then_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n and_o also_o by_o b._n hooper_n as_o appear_v in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr sacris_fw-la vestibus_fw-la touch_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o these_o matter_n which_o be_v now_o make_v question_n of_o by_o divers_a write_v his_o censure_n at_o large_a upon_o our_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n liturgy_n and_o ceremony_n now_o he_o say_v that_o when_o first_o he_o come_v into_o this_o land_n he_o make_v doubt_n whether_o he_o may_v join_v with_o our_o church_n as_o with_o a_o church_n of_o god_n thing_n be_v so_o far_o out_o of_o order_n but_o when_o he_o look_v more_o serious_o into_o the_o matter_n he_o find_v that_o the_o fault_n be_v in_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o man_n and_o for_o want_n of_o the_o execution_n of_o the_o wholesome_a order_n prescribe_v and_o not_o in_o the_o law_n and_o ordinance_n prescribe_v themselves_o after_o he_o doubt_v not_o to_o avouch_v that_o touch_v our_o law_n prayer_n bucer_n subscribe_v to_o our_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n order_n and_o discipline_n establish_v he_o find_v not_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v not_o either_o direct_o or_o by_o necessary_a consequence_n draw_v out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n howsoever_o he_o wish_v that_o some_o thing_n that_o trouble_v the_o conscience_n of_o some_o man_n be_v remove_v for_o their_o sake_n that_o take_v offence_n which_o he_o show_v in_o particular_a peter_n martyr_n in_o his_o epistle_n seem_v to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o judgement_n ob_fw-la other_o think_v that_o all_o or_o the_o most_o of_o our_o ceremony_n be_v lawful_a in_o themselves_o but_o the_o impose_v a_o necessity_n in_o observe_v of_o they_o destroy_v christian_a liberty_n ans_fw-fr that_o be_v they_o be_v lawful_a if_o they_o be_v not_o command_v indeed_o upon_o this_o conceit_n some_o do_v strong_o and_o strange_o hold_v that_o the_o king_n may_v not_o command_v they_o to_o wear_v their_o ordinary_a apparel_n of_o this_o or_o that_o fashion_n much_o less_o any_o to_o be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n for_o they_o must_v stand_v upon_o christian_a liberty_n a_o strange_a principle_n of_o obedience_n and_o like_a to_o breed_v loialty_n in_o the_o subject_n towards_o their_o prince_n i_o marvel_v unto_o what_o this_o humour_n will_v grow_v if_o it_o be_v follow_v ob_fw-la again_o some_o think_v they_o ought_v not_o to_o yield_v obedience_n to_o these_o order_n of_o the_o church_n because_o they_o be_v not_o resolve_v but_o stand_v in_o doubt_n and_o whatsoever_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n but_o be_v do_v doubt_o be_v a_o sin_n ans_fw-fr it_o be_v much_o better_a to_o obey_v doubt_o then_o to_o disobey_v doubt_o but_o i_o think_v they_o shall_v reason_v thus_o because_o i_o be_o enjoin_v to_o do_v such_o a_o thing_n if_o i_o obey_v not_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o christian_a magistrate_n i_o must_v needs_o sin_v unless_o i_o can_v manifest_o prove_v that_o that_o which_o be_v command_v be_v unlawful_a ob_fw-la there_o be_v other_o that_o grant_v they_o lawful_a but_o say_v they_o we_o can_v yield_v unto_o they_o without_o offence_n and_o scandal_n of_o many_o christ_n pay_v tribute_n mat._n 17.27_o which_o he_o be_v not_o bind_v unto_o see_v he_o be_v free_a yet_o nevertheless_o he_o do_v it_o for_o avoid_v offence_n now_o these_o man_n in_o seek_v to_o shun_v offence_n of_o i_o know_v not_o who_o they_o imagine_v will_v run_v headlong_o into_o the_o wilful_a offence_n of_o the_o church_n &_o whole_a state_n and_o rash_o break_v the_o concord_n &_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n this_o be_v to_o strain_n at_o a_o gnat_n and_o swallow_v a_o camel_n s._n augustin_n write_v at_o large_a most_o divine_o on_o this_o point_n epist_n 118._o ad_fw-la januarium_fw-la those_o thing_n say_v he_o which_o we_o observe_v not_o by_o write_a authority_n but_o by_o tradition_n which_o be_v observe_v throughout_o the_o whole_a world_n we_o must_v understand_v that_o they_o be_v command_v and_o appoint_v by_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o or_o else_o be_v decree_v in_o lawful_a counsel_n who_o authority_n in_o the_o church_n be_v most_o wholesome_a and_o holy_a as_o that_o the_o passion_n resurrection_n and_o ascension_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n the_o come_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v celebrate_v &_o solemnize_v yearly_a &_o whatsoever_o such_o like_a be_v observe_v of_o the_o whole_a church_n general_o