Selected quad for the lemma: authority_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
authority_n	apostle_n	bishop_n	time_n	2,197	5	3.8984	3	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A07805	The encounter against M. Parsons, by a revievv of his last sober reckoning, and his exceptions vrged in the treatise of his mitigation. Wherein moreouer is inserted: 1. A confession of some Romanists, both concerning the particular falsifications of principall Romanists, as namely, Bellarmine, Suarez, and others: as also concerning the generall fraude of that curch, in corrupting of authors. 2. A confutation of slaunders, which Bellarmine vrged against Protestants. 3. A performance of the challenge, which Mr. Parsons made, for the examining of sixtie Fathers, cited by Coccius for proofe of Purgatorie ... 4. A censure of a late pamphlet, intituled, The patterne of a Protestant, by one once termed the moderate answerer. 5. An handling of his question of mentall equiuocation (after his boldnesse with the L. Cooke) vpon occasion of the most memorable, and feyned Yorkeshire case of equiuocating; and of his raging against D. Kings sermon. Published by authoritie	Morton, Thomas, 1564-1659.	1610 (1610)	STC 18183; ESTC S112913	342,598	466

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authority_n ibid._n of_o old_a s._n ignatius_n who_o in_o his_o time_n which_o be_v immediate_o after_o the_o apostle_n hold_v the_o deny_v of_o the_o real_a presence_n to_o be_v a_o heresy_n and_o this_o be_v a_o three_o trick_n the_o review_n 52._o bellarmine_n himself_o have_v 1._o say_v that_o the_o contention_n in_o the_o day_n of_o ignatius_n concern_v rather_o the_o incarnation_n of_o christ_n than_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n and_o yet_o have_v m._n parson_n the_o power_n to_o face_n out_o the_o matter_n as_o though_o the_o omission_n heresy_n of_o the_o name_n of_o ignatius_n be_v a_o fraudulent_a trick_n know_v furthermore_o that_o the_o heretic_n speak_v of_o hold_v that_o christ_n have_v not_o a_o natural_a but_o a_o fantastical_a body_n and_o that_o therefore_o in_o the_o eucharist_n his_o body_n can_v not_o be_v exhibit_v in_o a_o figure_n but_o only_o a_o fantastical_a body_n and_o so_o make_v the_o eucharist_n a_o figure_n of_o a_o figure_n mr._n parson_n 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