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A19142 A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D. Burgesse his rejoinder for D. Morton The first part Ames, William, 1576-1633. 1633 (1633) STC 555; ESTC S100154 485,880 929

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cum_fw-la non_fw-la possint_fw-la capi_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la super_fw-la altar_n etiam_fw-la non_fw-la videbaturagi_n contra_fw-la legem_fw-la quia_fw-la nunc_fw-la cremebantur_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la apud_fw-la altar_n &_o simul_fw-la in_o altari_fw-la &_o ●ic_fw-la videbatur_fw-la totum_fw-la atrium_n sacerdo●●m_fw-la esse_fw-la tanquam_fw-la unum_fw-la altar_n intentio_fw-la autem_fw-la legis_fw-la erat_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la offerrerentur_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la in_o diversis_fw-la locis_fw-la sect_n 22._o concern_v synogogue_n to_o this_o simple_a instance_n the_o reply_o answer_v 1._o that_o synagogue_n be_v no_o significant_a ceremony_n 2._o that_o it_o be_v most_o likely_a they_o be_v first_o found_v by_o those_o prophet_n which_o bring_v in_o school_n of_o the_o prophet_n 3._o that_o in_o they_o there_o be_v of_o old_a no_o significant_a humane_a ceremony_n use_v to_o the_o first_o be_v rejoin_v that_o the_o synagogue_n bear_v some_o representation_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n 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occasion_n may_v not_o be_v find_v in_o man_n nay_o father_n ceremonious_a praesumtion_n 4._o it_o be_v final_o answer_v by_o the_o repl._n that_o the_o always_o of_o these_o feast_n can_v include_v the_o apostolical_a time_n and_o for_o other_o always_o bellarmine_n cont._n 1._o l._n 4._o c._n 9_o have_v the_o same_o plea_n and_o the_o answer_v give_v unto_o he_o by_o our_o divine_n may_v serve_v here_o the_o rejoynder_n here_o 1._o insinuate_v that_o it_o be_v very_o likely_a these_o feast_n or_o some_o of_o they_o be_v on_o foot_n while_o some_o apostle_n live_v because_o polycarpe_n pretend_v john_n to_o have_v teach_v easter_n on_o foot_n indeed_o be_v the_o mystery_n of_o antichristian_a corruption_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n but_o that_o which_o polycarpe_n be_v say_v to_o have_v pretend_v be_v for_o the_o fourteen_o day_n of_o the_o month_n and_o be_v confute_v by_o a_o contrary_a praetense_n of_o the_o latin_a church_n from_o peter_n and_o paul_n socrat._v l._n 5._o cap._n 22._o he_o 2._o add_v under_o augustine_n name_n that_o it_o be_v insolent_a madness_n to_o think_v that_o not_o to_o be_v well_o do_z which_o have_v be_v do_z by_o all_o the_o church_n though_o it_o begin_v after_o the_o apostle_n time_n now_o though_o i_o find_v no_o such_o say_n of_o augustine_n in_o the_o epistle_n quote_v for_o it_o but_o to_o the_o contrary_a i_o find_v this_o rule_n that_o it_o be_v lawful_a or_o not_o lawful_a to_o believe_v or_o not_o to_o believe_v other_o witness_n or_o testimony_n beside_o that_o of_o the_o scripture_n so_o far_o as_o you_o see_v they_o bear_v or_o do_v not_o bear_v weight_n to_o make_v we_o give_v more_o credit_n to_o a_o thing_n perpenderis_fw-la alijs_fw-la testibut_fw-la vel_fw-la testimonijs_fw-la preterquam_fw-la divinarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la c●edere_fw-la vel_fw-la non_fw-la credere_fw-la liceat_fw-la quantum_fw-la ea_fw-la moment_n ad_fw-la faciendam_fw-la sulem_fw-la vel_fw-la habere_fw-la vel_fw-la non_fw-la habere_fw-la 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any_o man_n will_v think_v then_o how_o can_v they_o say_v that_o our_o saviour_n condemn_v the_o one_o and_o allow_v the_o other_o the_o follow_v 13._o and_o 14._o section_n be_v spend_v about_o some_o objection_n take_v out_o of_o m_o r._n cartwrite_v but_o because_o the_o slitenesse_n of_o this_o instance_n be_v already_o sufficient_o discover_v i_o will_v not_o cloy_v nor_o detain_v the_o reader_n about_o they_o at_o this_o time_n but_o pass_v on_o to_o the_o next_o instance_n sect_n 15._o and_o 16._o concern_v the_o altar_n of_o jordan_n josh._n 22._o 1._o it_o be_v the_o def._n and_o rej._n their_o fashion_n to_o produce_v instance_n without_o proof_n of_o their_o fitness_n and_o so_o expect_v from_o we_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v disprove_v which_o be_v all_o one_o as_o if_o john_n a_o style_n shall_v in_o a_o great_a traverse_n bring_v forth_o against_o john_n a_o nokes_n some_o instrument_n for_o evidence_n of_o his_o cause_n which_o few_o or_o none_o beside_o himself_o can_v read_v at_o least_o so_o as_o to_o discern_v any_o thing_n in_o it_o make_v for_o he_o and_o plead_v that_o in_o they_o be_v evidence_n enough_o except_o john_n a_o nokes_n can_v prove_v the_o contrary_n so_o it_o be_v here_o about_o the_o altar_n of_o jordan_n no_o demonstration_n be_v first_o make_v how_o it_o agree_v to_o the_o purpose_n but_o we_o be_v challenge_v to_o show_v how_o it_o disagree_v yet_o yield_v they_o this_o liberty_n we_o have_v enough_o to_o oppose_v 2._o and_o first_o of_o all_o we_o answer_v that_o this_o altar_n of_o the_o two_o tribe_n be_v not_o in_o the_o state_n or_o use_v religious_a as_o the_o cross_n be_v by_o the_o confession_n of_o a_o english_a bishop_n babington_n on_o the_o 2._o commandment_n the_o rejoynder_n 1._o oppose_v out_o of_o m_o r._n parker_n par_fw-fr 1._o sect_n 34._o and_o 36._o that_o religious_a in_o use_n be_v that_o which_o have_v a_o religious_a end_n and_o religious_a in_o state_n which_o be_v ecclesiastical_a belong_v to_o god_n service_n ergo._n but_o m_o r._n parker_n in_o those_o sect_n tell_v he_o that_o religious_a in_o a_o sense_n common_a or_o mixt_o all_o thing_n be_v that_o be_v do_z to_o a_o holy_a end_n and_o religious_a in_o sense_n special_a or_o in_o state_n all_o those_o thing_n be_v that_o have_v order_n obligation_n and_o a_o kind_n of_o immobilitie_n in_o god_n service_n now_o the_o quaestion_n be_v not_o of_o the_o former_a common_a mix_a sense_n but_o of_o the_o late_a special_a state_n according_a to_o which_o no_o man_n can_v say_v the_o altar_n of_o jordan_n to_o have_v be_v religious_a upon_o ground_n of_o scripture_n or_o reason_n let_v any_o man_n judge_v then_o whether_o partiality_n do_v put_v out_o m_o r._n parker_n eye_n as_o the_o rej._n speak_v or_o blear_v they_o that_o see_v not_o the_o vanity_n of_o this_o allegation_n 3._o b._n babingtons_n word_n on_o the_o 2._o commandment_n be_v these_o they_o erect_v that_o altar_n not_o for_o religion_n but_o in_o deed_n for_o a_o civil_a use_n as_o you_o may_v see_v josh._n 22._o the_o rejoynd_a answer_v that_o he_o call_v the_o altar_n civil_a analogical_o because_o it_o be_v ordain_v by_o consent_n of_o fellow-citizen_n which_o be_v as_o mere_a a_o shift_n as_o any_o yet_o invent_v by_o the_o rejoynder_n for_o 1._o he_o call_v not_o the_o altar_n but_o the_o use_n civil_a 2._o he_o oppose_v this_o civility_n not_o unto_o divine_a institution_n as_o the_o rejoynder_n will_v have_v he_o but_o unto_o the_o same_o fellow-citizen_n erect_v of_o a_o altar_n for_o religion_n 3._o what_o he_o mean_v appear_v plain_o by_o his_o three_o proposition_n there_o set_v down_o in_o these_o term_n it_o be_v lawful_a to_o make_v picture_n of_o thing_n which_o we_o have_v see_v to_o a_o civil_a use_n but_o not_o to_o use_v they_o in_o the_o church_n and_o for_o religion_n 4._o to_o pass_v over_o circumstantial_a passage_n the_o def._n
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collection_n therfrom_o namely_o that_o if_o man_n may_v on_o hi●_n own_o head_n appoint_v a_o altar_n as_o they_o say_v than_o man_n may_v appoint_v not_o only_o accidental_a worship_n but_o also_o such_o a●_n be_v great_a than_o some_o essential_a worship_n because_o the_o alter_n which_o sanctifi_v the_o offer_n be_v great_a than_o the_o offer_v mat._n 23.19_o the_o rejoynder_n here_o accuse_v the_o replie●_n for_o want_n of_o judgement_n in_o this_o allegation_n because_o tha●_n which_o our_o saviour_n say_v be_v proper_a to_o that_o one_o only_a altar_n in_o the_o temple_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o special_a command_n of_o god_n to_o use_v they_o and_o their_o superadded_a mystical_a signification_n whereas_o other_o altar_n be_v only_o permit_v and_o so_o help_v to_o the_o offering_n but_o not_o sanctifier_n of_o they_o nay_o they_o be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o offering_n as_o also_o the_o altar_n of_o god_n appointment_n in_o the_o time_n of_o moses_n solomon_n ezra_n and_o 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to_o lay_v it_o thereon_o and_o then_o go_v to_o be_v reconcile_v with_o his_o brother_n have_v not_o yet_o actual_o sanctify_v the_o same_o 5._o the_o altar_n of_o moses_n and_o solomon_n be_v not_o first_o sanctify_v by_o offering_n upon_o they_o but_o by_o moses_n his_o anoint_v the_o manifestation_n of_o god_n glorious_a praesence_n in_o a_o cloud_n fill_v the_o tabernacle_n and_o temple_n and_o by_o that_o fire_n which_o come_v down_o from_o heaven_n to_o consume_v the_o sacrifice_n ex._n 40._o leu._n 8._o &_o 9_o 1._o king_n 8._o 2._o chr._n 7.6_o if_o salomon_n sanctify_a court_n do_v not_o sanctify_v the_o sacrifice_n offer_v thereon_o then_o either_o those_o sacrifice_n be_v less_o holy_a than_o those_o which_o be_v offer_v on_o the_o altar_n and_o sanctify_v thereby_o or_o else_o they_o have_v more_o sanctify_a virtue_n in_o they_o than_o the_o other_o which_o do_v not_o sanctify_v their_o altar_n as_o those_o do_v their_o court._n the_o like_a may_v be_v say_v and_o more_o also_o of_o abraham_n altar_n etc._n etc._n but_o this_o be_v enough_o 3._o our_o first_o answer_n be_v the_o same_o that_o d._n whitaker_n d._n sutlife_o etc._n etc._n give_v to_o bellarmine_n who_o the_o pont._n lib_n 4._o cap._n 19_o have_v the_o same_o objection_n against_o calvin_n quicquid_fw-la solomon_n fecit_fw-la id_fw-la dei_fw-la authoritate_fw-la &_o spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la nutu_fw-la fecit_fw-la say_v d._n whitaker_n that_o be_v solomon_n do_v this_o by_o divine_a authority_n and_o instinct_n of_o the_o h._n ghost_n the_o rej._n except_v 1._o that_o bellarmine_n will_v prove_v by_o this_o example_n proper_a essential_a worship_n by_o man_n ordain_v but_o if_o he_o have_v look_v upon_o the_o chapter_n quote_v he_o may_v have_v see_v that_o the_o only_a quaestion_n there_o be_v whether_o it_o be_v sin_n for_o man_n by_o their_o own_o authority_n to_o erect_v a_o new_a altar_n in_o the_o temple_n and_o this_o the_o def._n and_o rej._n with_o bellarmine_n deny_v against_o 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