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assembly_n see_v how_o lively_o he_o paint_v out_o and_o tax_v also_o our_o church_n state_n in_o england_n though_o primary_o he_o intend_v the_o papist_n and_o remember_v that_o to_o every_o of_o these_o church_n he_o allow_v a_o bishop_n as_o 104._o as_o pag._n 104._o before_o i_o have_v note_v so_o that_o the_o d._n may_v have_v spare_v his_o proud_a boast_n that_o 7._o that_o pag._n 7._o all_o the_o disciplinarian_o in_o the_o world_n be_v not_o able_a to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v or_o aught_o to_o have_v be_v after_o the_o division_n of_o parish_n any_o more_o than_o one_o bishop_n for_o a_o whole_a diocese_n neither_o shall_v he_o have_v call_v we_o for_o this_o our_o assertion_n 14._o assertion_n pag._n 14._o new_a foolish_a disciplinarian_o his_o worship_n doubtless_o be_v wise_a when_o all_o these_o our_o attestator_n and_o abettor_n be_v fool_n also_o that_o 21._o that_o pag._n 21._o his_o great_a challenge_n to_o his_o adversary_n be_v thus_o answer_v now_o to_o 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ambrose_n etc._n etc._n d._n rainolds_n answer_v hart_n the_o priest_n 267._o confer_v pag._n 267._o i_o perceive_v the_o pope_n must_v fetch_v his_o supremacy_n from_o earth_n and_o not_o from_o heaven_n you_o be_v fall_v from_o scripture_n to_o eusebius_n even_o so_o our_o adversary_n when_o all_o be_v do_v they_o must_v fetch_v the_o diocesan_n l._n bishop_n office_n from_o earth_n and_o not_o from_o heaven_n they_o fall_v from_o scripture_n to_o eusebius_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o not_o eusebius_n not_o the_o rest_n do_v construe_v those_o precept_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n as_o belong_v only_o to_o bishop_n much_o â—â—5_n much_o see_v before_o pag._n â—24_n â—â—5_n less_o do_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n without_o exception_n this_o be_v a_o strange_a hyperbole_n but_o these_o writer_n acknowledge_v timothy_n and_o titus_n to_o have_v ben_fw-mi bishop_n nay_o not_o diocesan_n l._n bishop_n they_o neither_o acknowledge_v nor_o know_v 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the_o appoint_v of_o bishop_n again_o in_o his_o book_n against_o the_o false_o name_v order_n of_o bishop_n he_o say_v 322._o say_v pag._n 322._o at_o citra_fw-la iocum_fw-la vides_fw-la palam_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o without_o jest_n thou_o see_v open_o that_o the_o apostle_n paul_n call_v only_o they_o bishop_n which_o do_v preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o minister_n sacrament_n to_o the_o people_n as_o in_o our_o time_n the_o parish_n minister_n and_o preacher_n do_v therefore_o i_o believe_v without_o doubt_n that_o they_o by_o fight_n possess_v the_o title_n and_o name_n of_o bishop_n and_o in_o another_o treatise_n b._n treatise_n de_fw-fr ministâ—_n eccles_n instituendâ—_n pag._n 365._o b._n donabo_fw-la hoc_fw-la ordmibus_fw-la papisticis_fw-la quod_fw-la solius_fw-la episcopi_fw-la autoritate_fw-la instituuntur_fw-la quos_fw-la vocant_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la consensu_fw-la aut_fw-la suffragio_fw-la populi_fw-la cvi_fw-la preficiendi_fw-la sunt_fw-la neque_fw-la requisito_fw-la nec_fw-la obtento_fw-it cvius_fw-la tamen_fw-la cum_fw-la sint_fw-la populus_fw-la dei_fw-la maximè_fw-la intererat_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la sine_fw-la suffragijs_fw-la suis_fw-la quisquam_fw-la eye_v imponeretur_fw-la i_o will_v yield_v this_o say_v he_o to_o the_o popish_a order_n that_o priest_n as_o they_o call_v they_o be_v institute_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o bishop_n alone_o the_o consent_n and_o voice_n give_v of_o the_o people_n over_o who_o they_o be_v to_o be_v set_v neither_o seek_v nor_o obtâ—yned_v who_o chief_a right_n nevertheless_o it_o be_v see_v they_o be_v god_n people_n that_o not_o any_o one_o shall_v be_v set_v over_o they_o without_o their_o voycegiving_a thus_o teach_v these_o pillar_n of_o the_o gospel_n zuinglius_fw-la and_o luther_n to_o who_o we_o will_v add_v our_o two_o great_a light_n that_o shine_v sometime_o in_o england_n master_n bucer_n and_o p._n martyr_n bucer_n bucer_n bucer_n have_v these_o word_n â—9_n word_n in_o math_n 16._o â—9_n haec_fw-la potestas_fw-la penes_fw-la omnem_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la est_fw-la authoritas_fw-la modo_fw-la ministerij_fw-la penes_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la &_o episcopos_fw-la ita_fw-la ut_fw-la roma_fw-la olim_fw-la potestas_fw-la popul_n fuit_fw-la authoritas_fw-la senatus_n this_o power_n &_o sway_v of_o the_o government_n be_v in_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o the_o authority_n only_o of_o ministration_n thereof_o be_v in_o the_o presbyter_n and_o bishop_n so_o as_o in_o old_a time_n at_o rome_n the_o power_n be_v in_o the_o people_n but_o the_o authority_n or_o direction_n be_v in_o the_o senat._n in_o a_o other_o place_n he_o say_v â—_o say_v de_fw-fr regno_fw-la chrâ—â—â—_n 1._o â—_o the_o apostle_n accuse_v the_o corinthians_n for_o that_o the_o whole_a church_n do_v not_o cast_v out_o of_o their_o company_n the_o incestuous_a person_n p._n martyr_n say_v martyr_n 7._o p_o martyr_n 16.15_o martyr_n in_o â—_o cor._n 16.15_o fatemur_fw-la clave_n ecclesia_fw-la universae_fw-la datas_fw-la we_o confess_v the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n by_o the_o key_n he_o mean_v government_n and_o ecclesiastical_a power_n also_o he_o say_v 3._o say_v vers_fw-la 3._o it_o be_v no_o marvel_n that_o it_o be_v the_o church_n right_a to_o choose_v minister_n see_v we_o see_v the_o civil_a law_n do_v give_v power_n to_o town_n to_o choose_v their_o physician_n and_o schoolmaster_n at_o their_o own_o like_n in_o a_o other_o place_n thus_o he_o say_v 5.11_o say_v in_o cap._n 5.11_o quoniam_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la de_fw-la negotijs_fw-la gravioribus_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la maximi_fw-la momenti_fw-la ad_fw-la plebem_fw-la â—efertur_fw-la ut_fw-la patet_fw-la in_fw-la act_v apostolicis_fw-la ideò_fw-la politâ—ae_fw-la rationem_fw-la habet_fw-la because_o in_o the_o church_n matter_n of_o weight_n be_v refer_v to_o the_o people_n to_o determine_v as_o it_o be_v manifest_a in_o the_o acâ—es_n therefore_o the_o church_n have_v a_o respect_n of_o the_o popular_a government_n or_o democracie_n for_o so_o p._n martyr_n here_o mean_v by_o politia_n as_o we_o may_v see_v if_o we_o look_v in_o the_o place_n also_o namely_o of_o excommunication_n he_o say_v consentiente_fw-la universa_fw-la eccsesia_n excommunicetur_fw-la hoc_fw-la debet_fw-la ist_fw-mi ad_fw-la iudicium_fw-la antecedere_fw-la let_v excommunication_n be_v with_o the_o consent_n of_o
have_v to_o that_o purâ—ise_n handle_v in_o my_o 3._o and_o 9_o argument_n of_o the_o divine_a beginning_n and_o institution_n of_o christ_n visible_a and_o ministerial_a church_n do_v well_o show_v and_o testify_v to_o we_o so_o much_o chap._n vi_o our_o very_a adversary_n do_v acknowledge_v with_o we_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o doctrine_n sometime_o in_o plain_a term_n 6._o chap._n 6._o and_o sometime_o to_o the_o same_o full_a effect_n special_o when_o they_o deal_v against_o the_o papist_n the_o force_n and_o evidence_n of_o this_o truth_n viz._n touch_v the_o people_n right_a for_o their_o free_a consent_n in_o church_n government_n be_v such_o that_o also_o our_o very_a adversary_n sometime_o in_o plain_a term_n sometime_o to_o the_o same_o full_a effect_n do_v acknowledge_v it_o among_o many_o i_o will_v content_v myself_o with_o two_o for_o the_o present_a viz._n d._n bilson_n and_o d._n downame_n the_o first_o of_o these_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o apology_n of_o the_o 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359._o the_o late_a bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v not_o cease_v curse_v and_o fight_v till_o exclude_v both_o prince_n and_o people_n they_o reduce_v the_o election_n whole_o to_o the_o clergy_n but_o he_o tell_v they_o that_o by_o their_o leave_n apply_v hereunto_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n mat._n 19_o 8._o it_o be_v not_o so_o from_o the_o beginning_n again_o he_o say_v 330._o say_v pag._n 330._o i_o a_o knowledge_n each_o church_n and_o people_n stand_v frâ—e_v by_o god_n law_n to_o admit_v maintain_v and_o obey_v no_o man_n as_o their_o pastor_n without_o their_o like_n where_o in_o deed_n he_o add_v to_o the_o contrary_a unless_o by_o law_n custom_n or_o consent_v they_o restrain_v themselves_o but_o this_o he_o himself_o elsewhere_a answer_v roundly_o 221._o roundly_o pag._n 221._o what_o authority_n have_v other_o after_o the_o apostle_n death_n to_o change_v the_o apostolic_a government_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o so_o from_o the_o beginning_n which_o before_o he_o answer_v 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degree_n in_o this_o place_n and_o so_o herein_o we_o all_o agree_v but_o as_o touch_v bezaes_n conjecture_n of_o the_o angel_n of_o ephezus_n viz._n that_o peradventure_o he_o may_v be_v a_o precedent_n not_o continue_v but_o changeable_a i_o suppose_v few_o approve_v it_o for_o my_o part_n i_o do_v not_o though_o i_o great_o honour_v the_o name_n &_o memory_n of_o master_n beza_n yet_o there_o be_v no_o need_n to_o be_v of_o his_o opinion_n in_o this_o a_o changeable_a presidencie_n no_o doubt_n be_v among_o those_o bishop_n act._n 20.28_o but_o i_o be_o of_o mind_n that_o none_o of_o these_o bishop_n mean_v by_o the_o angel_n rev._n 2._o &_o 3._o be_v changeable_a in_o all_o likelihood_n they_o be_v constant_a and_o continue_v for_o term_v of_o life_n and_o such_o a_o difference_n presidentiall_a may_v well_o come_v in_o among_o the_o many_o joint_a pastor_n of_o the_o church_n at_o ephesus_n by_o this_o time_n and_o yet_o they_o all_o remain_v 15._o remain_v declarâ—â—_n pag._n 15._o equal_a in_o honour_n and_o power_n pastoral_n howbeit_o these_o constant_a precedent_n be_v bishop_n then_o to_o no_o diocesan_n multitude_n disperse_v abroad_o in_o many_o ordinary_a set_a assembly_n but_o to_o one_o ordinary_a assembly_n only_o as_o be_v note_v often_o before_o and_o so_o the_o great_a argument_n of_o these_o doctor_n which_o they_o take_v from_o the_o â—_o the_o perp._n gov_n pag._n 260._o d._n down_o def._n 4._o &_o â—_o succession_n of_o bishop_n to_o prove_v our_o bishop_n as_o they_o be_v in_o england_n to_o be_v lawful_a may_v appear_v to_o be_v a_o mere_a sophism_n &_o deceit_n for_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n also_o may_v by_o such_o a_o show_n of_o succession_n prove_v his_o office_n and_o function_n lawful_a as_o in_o deed_n he_o do_v endeavour_n to_o do_v and_o do_v it_o as_o well_o as_o they_o but_o though_o all_o these_o bishop_n have_v one_o name_n viz._n bishop_n yet_o between_o the_o first_o and_o the_o last_o of_o they_o there_o be_v see_v many_o real_a and_o substantial_a difference_n in_o their_o office_n to_o observe_v therefore_o this_o egregious_a equivocation_n i_o remit_v the_o reader_n to_o pag._n 98._o 99_o 128._o 129._o 211._o 212._o before_o yet_o doctor_n downame_n †_o stick_v hard_o to_o this_o etc._n this_o defenc._n 4.50_o etc._n etc._n that_o jame_v the_o apostle_n be_v a_o bishop_n bishop_n james_n no_o proper_a bishop_n what_o a_o proper_a bishop_n it_o be_v simple_o impossible_a whosoever_o say_v otherwise_o let_v the_o reader_n mark_v that_o all_o our_o question_n be_v about_o bishop_n proper_o so_o call_v &_o not_o about_o the_o name_n bishop_n use_v in_o a_o general_a sense_n there_o be_v 267._o be_v rain_n confer_v pa._n 263._o 267._o a_o general_a take_n of_o the_o word_n bishop_n and_o there_o be_v a_o proper_a take_n of_o it_o apostle_n and_o evangeliste_n may_v general_o &_o improper_o be_v call_v bishop_n the_o rather_o if_o they_o reside_v long_o in_o one_o place_n and_o do_v execute_v a_o bishop_n like_o office_n there_o as_o james_n i_o grant_v do_v in_o jerusalem_n and_o titus_n in_o crete_n yea_o by_o assignment_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o questionless_a so_o the_o ancient_a writer_n mean_v where_o they_o call_v james_n bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o titus_n bishop_n of_o crete_n for_o neither_o james_n nor_o titus_n be_v nor_o can_v be_v proper_a bishop_n there_o which_o i_o show_v thus_o every_o bishop_n be_v appropriate_v limit_v and_o confine_v only_o to_o one_o church_n james_n neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v appropriate_v and_o confine_v only_o to_o one_o church_n therefore_o jame_v neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v a_o bishop_n the_o proposition_n be_v most_o evident_a and_o grant_v of_o our_o 232._o our_o d._n bilson_n pag._n 227._o 232._o adversary_n the_o assumption_n they_o neither_o aught_o nor_o dare_v deny_v for_o james_n have_v from_o christ_n a_o ministry_n and_o call_v to_o all_o church_n throughout_o the_o world_n this_o he_o retain_v still_o he_o 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no_o more_o can_v james_n be_v both_o appropriate_v to_o jerusalem_n and_o not_o appropriate_v at_o one_o time_n neither_o can_v the_o proper_a bishop_n office_n be_v conjoin_v with_o a_o apostleship_n for_o it_o be_v in_o vain_a see_v the_o apostleship_n contain_v the_o whole_a bishoply_n office_n and_o more_o too_o but_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o church_n administration_n do_v no_o thing_n in_o vain_a &_o idle_o again_o though_o the_o apostleship_n contain_v in_o it_o the_o whole_a office_n of_o a_o proper_a bishop_n yet_o this_o be_v 30._o be_v declarat_fw-la pag._n 30._o material_o not_o formal_o as_o a_o privy_a counsailler_n in_o england_n have_v in_o he_o the_o office_n and_o power_n of_o a_o justice_n of_o peace_n also_o a_o shilling_n contain_v a_o groat_n but_o no_o man_n that_o mean_v plain_o will_v say_v a_o shilling_n be_v a_o groat_n or_o a_o privy_a counsailler_n be_v a_o justice_n of_o peace_n if_o any_o do_v it_o be_v not_o right_o nor_o true_o speak_v for_o not_o the_o matter_n but_o the_o form_n do_v give_v the_o proper_a name_n yet_o i_o do_v not_o deny_v all_o use_n of_o unproper_a speech_n i_o grant_v on_o some_o occasion_n man_n may_v speak_v general_o and_o undistinct_o of_o thing_n proper_o in_o reason_v we_o must_v always_o speak_v proper_o as_o i_o deem_v those_o ancient_n do_v of_o bishop_n nevertheless_o in_o ordinary_a teach_n and_o special_o in_o reason_v and_o dispute_v we_o must_v ever_o use_v exact_a and_o proper_a term_n avoid_v generality_n and_o word_n unproper_a otherwise_o we_o equivocate_v to_o this_o reason_n that_o the_o apostle_n give_v not_o james_n any_o power_n which_o he_o have_v not_o before_o as_o a_o apostle_n d._n downame_n answer_v that_o which_o be_v both_o false_a and_o also_o most_o presumptuous_a for_o plain_o he_o say_v 5â—â—_n say_v def._n 4_o 5â—â—_n james_n the_o apostle_n have_v not_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n before_o he_o be_v design_v bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n o_o haughty_a bishop_n who_o 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