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adultery_n be_v speak_v of_o before_o pag._n 32.33_o to_o which_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n &_o will_v now_o only_o ask_v of_o he_o whether_o he_o will_v have_v any_o to_o retain_v unrepentant_a adulterer_n and_o adulteress_n and_o so_o to_o partake_v in_o their_o sin_n it_o may_v be_v some_o of_o his_o lord_n the_o prelate_n can_v quick_o take_v he_o out_o as_o bad_a lesson_n as_o this_o special_o he_o be_v so_o apt_a a_o scholar_n for_o such_o master_n yet_o may_v not_o we_o retain_v such_o member_n in_o our_o church_n and_o if_o we_o shall_v what_o exclamation_n will_v he_o make_v against_o we_o as_o in_o deed_n just_o he_o may_v here_o therefore_o mark_v the_o wickedness_n of_o this_o imp_n of_o satan_n common_a to_o he_o with_o such_o enemy_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o church_n if_o any_o stand_v from_o and_o against_o the_o church_n be_v they_o never_o so_o lewd_a &_o wicked_a he_o be_v ready_a to_o favour_n &_o partake_v with_o they_o but_o if_o any_o continue_v with_o the_o church_n though_o they_o repent_v of_o their_o sin_n as_o david_n he_o will_v not_o cease_v to_o malign_v and_o abuse_v they_o yea_o &_o to_o defame_v the_o whole_a church_n thereby_o as_o if_o it_o be_v a_o company_n of_o adulterer_n etc._n etc._n as_o before_o in_o his_o book_n have_v appear_v 6._o the_o six_o instance_n be_v of_o his_o own_o wife_n rose_n white_a excommunicate_v for_o two_o thing_n though_o he_o mention_v but_o one_o 1._o first_o for_o not_o bring_v her_o child_n to_o baptism_n 2._o for_o fall_v from_o the_o truth_n which_o she_o have_v profess_v with_o we_o to_o the_o corruption_n of_o the_o dutch_a church_n here_o where_o she_o join_v herself_o a_o member_n and_o the_o man_n he_o speak_v of_o her_o husband_n be_v himself_o match_v one_o for_o another_o for_o the_o abuse_n which_o he_o speak_v of_o to_o give_v a_o instance_n be_v not_o one_o of_o they_o our_o observe_v of_o that_o rule_n mat._n 18.15.16.17_o in_o such_o manner_n as_o we_o do_v for_o which_o when_o he_o have_v reprove_v the_o church_n and_o be_v after_o a_o week_n respiâ—e_v call_v upon_o for_o his_o proof_n he_o be_v glad_a open_o in_o the_o church_n to_o say_v he_o be_v unprovided_a and_o come_v no_o more_o to_o our_o meeting_n to_o prove_v it_o at_o any_o time_n afterward_o yet_o such_o be_v his_o face_n as_o he_o will_v boast_v of_o his_o reprove_v abuse_n among_o us._n towch_v his_o wife_n allege_v of_o the_o example_n of_o timothees_n mother_n that_o do_v not_o circumcise_v he_o and_o no_o other_o cause_n mention_v but_o that_o his_o â—ather_n be_v a_o grecian_a he_o say_v she_o can_v get_v no_o answer_n whereas_o the_o whole_a congregation_n then_o present_a know_v how_o many_o thing_n be_v answer_v about_o it_o &_o sundry_a reason_n use_v about_o this_o case_n of_o not_o bring_v her_o child_n to_o baptism_n upon_o her_o husband_n forbid_v as_o that_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n make_v with_o the_o church_n in_o christ_n be_v without_o respect_n of_o person_n or_o sex_n there_o be_v in_o he_o neither_o male_a nor_o female_a gal._n 3.28_o and_o therefore_o though_o the_o father_n shall_v refuse_v or_o neglect_v the_o mother_n have_v right_a and_o aught_o to_o present_v that_o she_o may_v not_o deprive_v her_o seed_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n upon_o her_o husband_n will_n any_o more_o than_o herself_o of_o the_o lord_n supper_n if_o he_o shall_v forbid_v she_o because_o that_o by_o the_o believe_a woman_n the_o child_n be_v clean_a as_o well_o as_o by_o the_o believe_a man_n 1_o cor._n 7._o â—4_n &_o she_o now_o be_v of_o our_o church_n &_o her_o husband_n not_o we_o be_v to_o call_v upon_o she_o for_o performance_n of_o her_o duty_n that_o baptism_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o incorporate_n into_o christ_n and_o salvation_n by_o his_o death_n and_o resurrection_n so_o as_o her_o neglect_n of_o baptise_v her_o child_n can_v not_o but_o be_v injurious_a both_o to_o christ_n and_o it_o when_o these_o &_o the_o like_a persuasion_n be_v use_v unto_o she_o and_o she_o have_v nothing_o to_o answer_v but_o ask_v why_o then_o timothees_n mother_n do_v not_o circumcise_v her_o child_n our_o teacher_n as_o he_o remember_v answer_v that_o the_o cause_n be_v not_o certain_o know_v for_o it_o be_v not_o express_v in_o the_o scripture_n if_o she_o be_v live_v and_o present_a we_o will_v demand_v of_o herself_o but_o she_o be_v now_o dead_a and_o go_v wherefore_o it_o be_v hard_o for_o we_o to_o determine_v of_o the_o cause_n but_o this_o ro._n white_n be_v live_v and_o present_a &_o must_v give_v account_n of_o she_o own_o way_n that_o we_o must_v not_o walk_v by_o example_n but_o by_o law_n of_o god_n for_o even_o the_o most_o righteous_a may_v offend_v &_o moses_n himself_o fault_v in_o neglect_v the_o circumcise_n of_o his_o son_n exod_n 4._o and_o if_o timothees_n mother_n be_v a_o jewesse_n do_v marry_v with_o a_o gentile_a a_o infidel_n who_o therefore_o will_v not_o suffer_v she_o to_o circumcise_v her_o son_n &_o she_o obey_v he_o that_o such_o marriage_n be_v forbid_v of_o god_n and_o unlawful_a and_o then_o she_o sin_v in_o marry_v with_o he_o why_o may_v she_o not_o also_o sin_n in_o keep_v her_o child_n uncircumcised_a for_o he_o if_o that_o be_v the_o cause_n as_o now_o this_o woman_n pretend_v wherefore_o she_o be_v put_v in_o mind_n rather_o of_o the_o example_n of_o other_o good_a woman_n as_o abigail_n 1_o sam._n 25._o the_o elect_a lady_n 2_o joh._n epist._n also_o of_o some_o speak_v of_o in_o the_o maccabee_n though_o that_o book_n be_v apocrypha_fw-la which_o lose_v their_o life_n for_o cause_v their_o child_n to_o be_v circumcise_v 1_o mach._n 1.63_o 2_o mach._n 6.10_o it_o be_v also_o demand_v by_o some_o of_o we_o how_o it_o can_v be_v show_v otherwise_o but_o that_o timotheâ—s_n mother_n may_v be_v chap._n in_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o gospel_n before_o he_o be_v bear_v and_o he_o in_o that_o respect_n may_v be_v uncircumcised_a also_o whether_o the_o woman_n in_o noah_n time_n shall_v have_v 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