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A01094 Foure sermons, lately preached, by Martin Fotherby Doctor in Diuinity, and chaplain vnto the Kings Maiestie. The first at Cambridge, at the Masters Commencement. Iuly 7. anno 1607. The second at Canterbury, at the Lord Archbishops visitation. Septemb. 14. anno 1607. The third at Paules Crosse, vpon the day of our deliuerance from the gun-powder treason. Nouemb. 5. anno 1607. The fourth at the court, before the Kings Maiestie. Nouemb. 15. anno 1607. Whereunto is added, an answere vnto certaine obiections of one vnresolued, as concerning the vse of the Crosse in baptisme: written by him in anno 1604. and now commanded to be published by authoritie Fotherby, Martin, 1549 or 50-1620. 1608 (1608) STC 11206; ESTC S102529 138,851 236

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reason_n why_o such_o shall_v have_v any_o place_n in_o the_o church_n galat._n the_o apostle_n say_v of_o ceremony_n that_o they_o be_v shadow_n of_o thing_n to_o come_v of_o good_a thing_n and_o of_o heavenly_a thing_n saint_n hierom_n say_v that_o they_o be_v not_o only_a shadow_n but_o also_o eminency_n too_o he_o call_v they_o imagine_v and_o exemplaria_fw-la futurorum_fw-la which_o ought_v no_o less_o to_o be_v observe_v in_o our_o christian_a ceremony_n than_o it_o be_v in_o the_o jewish_a for_o as_o saint_n augustine_n observe_v whosoever_o observe_v any_o ceremony_n or_o sign_n christiana_n and_o not_o understand_v what_o thing_n it_o do_v signify_v he_o do_v seruire_fw-la sub_fw-la signo_fw-la he_o be_v a_o slave_n &_o a_o servant_n unto_o the_o outward_a sign_n but_o he_o that_o observe_v it_o know_v the_o signification_n of_o it_o he_o serve_v not_o the_o sign_n but_o the_o thing_n whereunto_o it_o be_v refer_v yea_o and_o calvin_n allow_v ceremony_n in_o all_o christian_n church_n 14._o require_v these_o three_o condition_n in_o they_o that_o they_o have_v in_o numero_fw-la paucitatem_fw-la in_o
the_o church_n do_v not_o tyrannize_v over_o man_n conscience_n in_o ordain_v significant_a rite_n and_o ceremony_n but_o these_o man_n will_v tyrannize_v over_o the_o church_n who_o will_v spoil_v she_o of_o that_o her_o lawful_a authority_n especial_o they_o not_o be_v able_a to_o produce_v any_o scripture_n whereby_o she_o be_v abridge_v of_o that_o power_n ob._n but_o though_o the_o church_n shall_v have_v power_n to_o ordain_v rite_n and_o ceremony_n for_o private_a order_n in_o itself_o yet_o have_v it_o no_o power_n to_o appoint_v any_o outward_a sign_n to_o be_v a_o note_n of_o our_o general_a profession_n but_o that_o be_v god_n own_o peculiar_a prerogative_n gen_n 17_o 7.11_o resp._n that_o the_o church_n have_v authority_n in_o great_a matter_n then_o either_o in_o add_v signification_n to_o ceremony_n or_o outward_a note_n to_o our_o profession_n very_o many_o instance_n do_v notable_o declare_v first_o that_o whereas_o christ_n institute_v his_o supper_n at_o the_o time_n of_o supper_n it_o have_v change_v that_o time_n from_o the_o evening_n to_o the_o morning_n which_o be_v a_o alter_v in_o circumstance_n of_o christ_n own_o institution_n second_o whereas_o the_o apostle_n decree_v in_o a_o general_a council_n that_o christian_n shall_v abstain_v from_o blood_n and_o from_o strangler_n that_o have_v it_o likewise_o alter_v and_o so_o cancel_v a_o apostolical_a constitution_n the_o like_a authority_n they_o show_v in_o alter_v the_o ancient_a day_n of_o the_o sabbath_n and_o administer_a baptism_n unto_o child_n in_o this_o they_o want_v the_o commandment_n of_o christ_n in_o that_o they_o change_v the_o commandment_n of_o god_n from_o which_o instance_n we_o may_v argue_v as_o from_o the_o great_a to_o the_o less_o that_o if_o they_o err_v not_o in_o those_o forenamed_a ordinance_n much_o less_o have_v they_o err_v in_o add_v signification_n unto_o their_o ceremony_n &_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n why_o have_v not_o the_o church_n as_o great_a a_o power_n to_o add_v outward_a sign_n unto_o our_o profession_n as_o to_o ordain_v other_o ceremony_n concern_v our_o ecclesiastical_a administration_n be_v the_o sign_n the_o less_o lawful_a because_o it_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o our_o profession_n why_o then_o be_v none_o at_o all_o lawful_a for_o not_o only_o this_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n c._n but_o also_o all_o other_o ecclesiastical_a ceremony_n as_o aquinas_n teach_v we_o be_v sign_n of_o our_o profession_n he_o say_v that_o omnes_fw-la ceremoniae_fw-la be_v protestationes_fw-la quaedam_fw-la fidei_fw-la tertullian_n be_v new_o convert_v unto_o christianity_n 268._o forsake_v his_o old_a habit_n which_o be_v a_o gown_n and_o betake_v he_o to_o a_o new_a which_o be_v a_o cloak_n that_o so_o with_o the_o change_n of_o his_o garment_n he_o may_v notify_v to_o the_o world_n the_o change_n of_o his_o profession_n which_o certain_o he_o will_v never_o have_v do_v if_o he_o have_v be_v persuade_v that_o the_o add_v of_o such_o a_o sign_n unto_o his_o profession_n have_v be_v a_o encroach_a upon_o god_n own_o prerogative_n and_o peculiar_a jurisdiction_n the_o christian_n likewise_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n ever_o from_o the_o time_n of_o the_o very_a apostle_n have_v use_v this_o same_o ceremony_n of_o the_o cross_n which_o be_v now_o in_o question_n as_o a_o mark_n and_o a_o sign_n of_o their_o profession_n and_o yet_o do_v never_o either_o they_o themselves_o think_v it_o or_o the_o great_a adversary_n that_o they_o have_v impute_v it_o as_o a_o presumption_n and_o encroach_a against_o god_n own_o prerogative_n 27._o as_o saint_n basil_n observe_v nec_fw-la his_fw-la quisquam_fw-la contradicit_fw-la say_v he_o speak_v of_o the_o tradition_n and_o ceremony_n of_o the_o church_n quisquis_fw-la sane_fw-la vel_fw-la tenuiter_fw-la expertus_fw-la est_fw-la quae_fw-la sint_fw-la iura_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la so_o that_o this_o objection_n of_o you_o if_o it_o be_v good_a condemn_v not_o only_o our_o use_n of_o the_o cross_n now_o after_o it_o have_v be_v abuse_v by_o the_o papist_n but_o even_o the_o use_n of_o it_o in_o the_o primative_a church_n before_o it_o be_v abuse_v or_o if_o it_o be_v weak_a it_o be_v weak_a against_o we_o as_o well_o as_o against_o they_o for_o the_o use_n of_o it_o now_o be_v no_o more_o a_o incrochment_n upon_o god_n own_o prerogative_n than_o it_o be_v in_o that_o time_n ob._n but_o you_o prove_v by_o that_o place_n gen_n 17.7.11_o that_o god_n only_o have_v power_n to_o add_v sign_n unto_o his_o covenant_n and_o by_o consequent_a that_o they_o which_o add_v any_o such_o sign_n presume_v to_o enter_v upon_o god_n own_o prerogative_n resp._n but_o this_o proof_n which_o you_o allege_v have_v two_o great_a fault_n in_o it_o first_o that_o it_o be_v not_o ad_fw-la idem_fw-la and_o second_o that_o it_o be_v not_o concludent_fw-la in_o the_o cause_n not_o ad_fw-la idem_fw-la thus_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n may_v not_o add_v any_o ceremonial_a sign_n unto_o our_o profession_n you_o produce_v a_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o speak_v only_o of_o sacramental_a sign_n it_o be_v circumcision_n which_o be_v a_o sacramental_a sign_n that_o god_n in_o that_o place_n do_v add_v unto_o his_o covenant_n such_o sign_n i_o do_v yield_v that_o god_n only_o may_v institute_v but_o as_o for_o the_o cross_n we_o make_v it_o not_o a_o sacrament_n but_o only_o a_o ceremony_n and_o we_o may_v true_o say_v of_o it_o januar_n as_o saint_n augustine_n do_v of_o the_o birth_n day_n of_o christ_n non_fw-la in_o sacramento_fw-la celebratur_fw-la sed_fw-la tantum_fw-la in_o memoriam_fw-la revocatur_fw-la second_o if_o your_o proof_n be_v ad_fw-la idem_fw-la and_o proper_a to_o the_o purpose_n yet_o be_v it_o inconcludent_a for_o by_o what_o rule_n of_o reason_n can_v this_o consequent_a follow_n god_n add_v a_o sacramental_a sign_n unto_o his_o covenant_n ergo_fw-la man_n may_v not_o add_v a_o ceremonial_a sign_n if_o god_n add_v sign_n unto_o his_o covenant_n 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