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A34032 A modest and true account of the chief points in controversie between the Roman Catholics and the Protestants together with some considerations upon the sermons of a divine of the Church of England / by N.C. Nary, Cornelius, 1660-1738.; Colson, Nicholas. 1696 (1696) Wing C5422; ESTC R35598 162,211 316

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small_a bulk_n which_o in_o no_o wise_a agree_v with_o my_o design_v brevity_n nor_o yet_o will_v my_o present_a affair_n i_o shall_v therefore_o be_v content_a at_o present_a to_o answer_v his_o main_a objection_n take_v from_o the_o evidence_n of_o sense_n which_o be_v the_o only_a objection_n i_o find_v in_o all_o his_o sermon_n but_o with_o as_o many_o face_n as_o protheus_n be_v say_v to_o have_v and_o some_o three_o or_o four_o more_o take_v out_o of_o this_o discourse_n which_o be_v the_o only_a real_a difficulty_n in_o it_o be_v resolve_v however_o to_o lay_v hold_n on_o the_o next_o opportunity_n to_o answer_v the_o whole_a paragraph_n by_o paragraph_n 165._o vol._n 3._o pag._n 80_o 81._o vol._n 5._o p._n 20._o etc._n etc._n vol._n 6._o pag._n 165._o 1._o his_o main_a objection_n be_v this_o transubstantiation_n be_v contradict_v by_o sense_n the_o evidence_n of_o our_o sense_n be_v against_o it_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o common_a sense_n and_o reason_n of_o mankind_n etc._n etc._n answ_n this_o he_o repeat_v over_o and_o over_o and_o to_o enforce_v the_o belief_n of_o it_o he_o tell_v we_o in_o several_a place_n that_o it_o destroy_v the_o external_n mean_v of_o confirm_v the_o truth_n of_o christianity_n but_o he_o only_o repeat_v it_o for_o i_o can_v never_o yet_o find_v in_o all_o his_o book_n that_o he_o have_v make_v the_o least_o offer_n to_o prove_v it_o he_o will_v have_v we_o it_o seem_v be_v so_o civil_a as_o to_o take_v it_o for_o grant_v for_o without_o this_o i_o believe_v nay_o i_o be_o sure_a he_o do_v not_o well_o know_v how_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v it_o and_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n i_o often_o admire_v with_o how_o much_o confidence_n his_o good_a man_n and_o other_o will_v press_v this_o argument_n upon_o we_o without_o ever_o offer_v the_o least_o proof_n for_o it_o when_o at_o the_o same_o time_n they_o know_v very_o well_o we_o firm_o deny_v it_o and_o this_o seem_v so_o much_o the_o more_o strange_a because_o the_o more_o 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purgatory_n because_o they_o pray_v for_o the_o virgin_n mary_n and_o the_o apostle_n and_o martyr_n etc._n etc._n else_o why_o do_v they_o not_o conclude_v that_o we_o do_v not_o believe_v it_o because_o we_o do_v the_o same_o to_o sum_v up_o all_o these_o evidence_n then_o i_o reason_v thus_o the_o primitive_a church_n pray_v to_o god_n for_o some_o soul_n depart_v that_o they_o may_v be_v deliver_v out_o of_o prison_n that_o their_o fault_n and_o sin_n may_v be_v forgive_v they_o that_o they_o may_v be_v ease_v of_o their_o pain_n that_o they_o may_v be_v save_v from_o the_o punishment_n of_o fire_n that_o they_o may_v be_v receive_v into_o heaven_n but_o such_o prayer_n be_v inconsistent_a with_o a_o belief_n that_o the_o soul_n depart_v be_v immediate_o take_v into_o heaven_n or_o condemn_v to_o hell_n therefore_o the_o primitive_a church_n believe_v there_o be_v a_o three_o place_n wherein_o some_o soul_n depart_v be_v detain_v and_o be_v capable_a of_o be_v assist_v and_o better_v by_o their_o prayer_n the_o first_o proposition_n be_v take_v from_o the_o very_a word_n of_o the_o father_n and_o acknowledge_v by_o our_o adversary_n to_o be_v true_a the_o second_o a_o very_a small_a portion_n of_o natural_a reason_n with_o never_o so_o little_a insight_n in_o scripture_n and_o christian_a religion_n which_o assure_v we_o that_o prayer_n of_o that_o nature_n for_o those_o that_o be_v in_o heaven_n or_o hell_n be_v needless_a and_o vain_a will_v easy_o discover_v to_o be_v likewise_o true_a and_o i_o think_v the_o consequence_n be_v right_o infer_v i_o now_o proceed_v to_o the_o objection_n 3._o the_o doctor_n object_n first_o 63._o vol._n 2_o pag._n 63._o that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n be_v not_o found_v in_o scripture_n nor_o can_v be_v prove_v from_o it_o and_o that_o some_o of_o our_o own_o eminent_a man_n do_v acknowledge_v it_o can_v to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o i_o have_v produce_v two_o passage_n from_o scripture_n and_o can_v produce_v as_o many_o more_o which_o the_o most_o eminent_a father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n have_v interpret_v of_o purgatory_n and_o therefore_o i_o think_v i_o may_v safe_o tell_v the_o dr._n that_o with_o submission_n he_o be_v mistake_v as_o to_o those_o eminent_a man_n of_o our_o church_n who_o say_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n can_v be_v prove_v from_o scripture_n when_o any_o one_o in_o his_o behalf_n name_v they_o and_o point_n at_o the_o place_n in_o their_o work_n where_o they_o say_v so_o i_o will_v return_v he_o as_o satisfactory_a a_o answer_n as_o i_o can_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n i_o may_v reasonable_o presume_v they_o say_v no_o such_o thing_n see_v he_o be_v never_o backward_o in_o give_v citation_n when_o they_o make_v any_o thing_n for_o he_o all_o the_o eminent_a man_n he_o vouch_v for_o this_o be_v estius_n who_o by_o the_o dr_n own_o confession_n only_o say_v that_o in_o his_o opinion_n the_o passage_n of_o st._n paul_n above_o cite_v do_v not_o evince_v purgatory_n but_o do_v not_o say_v that_o other_o passage_n of_o scripture_n do_v not_o and_o if_o he_o have_v i_o shall_v oppose_v to_o his_o opinion_n that_o of_o tertulian_n st._n cyprian_n st._n ambrose_n st._n jerom_n st._n austin_n and_o many_o more_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n who_o authority_n in_o this_o matter_n ought_v i_o think_v to_o weigh_v more_o with_o any_o reasonable_a man_n than_o that_o of_o any_o modern_a writer_n whatsoever_o 307._o vol._n 2._o edit_n post_fw-la ob_fw-la pag._n 307._o his_o second_o objection_n be_v borrow_a from_o a_o text_n in_o the_o revelation_n bless_a be_v the_o dead_a which_o die_v in_o the_o lord_n from_o hence_o forth_o yea_o say_v the_o spirit_n that_o they_o may_v rest_v from_o their_o labour_n and_o their_o work_n do_v follow_v they_o cap._n 14.13_o here_o say_v the_o dr._n the_o spirit_n pronounce_v they_o happy_a who_o die_v in_o the_o lord_n because_o they_o rest_v from_o their_o labour_n which_o add_v he_o they_o will_v not_o do_v be_v they_o to_o be_v torment_v in_o purgatory_n fire_n ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n answ_n this_o passage_n be_v confess_o obscure_a as_o to_o the_o meaning_n of_o some_o word_n in_o it_o and_o the_o time_n whence_o the_o blessing_n there_o mention_v be_v to_o commence_v and_o the_o doctor_n be_v bestow_v six_o full_a page_n upon_o the_o explication_n of_o it_o show_v it_o to_o be_v so_o and_o for_o that_o reason_n i_o think_v it_o be_v against_o the_o rule_n of_o logic_n to_o pretend_v to_o more_o evidence_n in_o the_o conclusion_n than_o the_o premise_n will_v afford_v but_o it_o seem_v he_o forget_v in_o his_o second_o sermon_n upon_o this_o text_n that_o in_o his_o first_o he_o have_v tell_v we_o that_o the_o dead_a which_o die_v in_o the_o lord_n in_o scripture_n phrase_n be_v those_o who_o die_v or_o be_v put_v to_o death_n for_o the_o lord_n cause_n that_o be_v as_o he_o express_o say_v suffer_v martyrdom_n for_o the_o lord_n i_o say_v he_o must_v have_v forget_v this_o 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