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A30979 A letter concerning invocations of saints, and adoration of the cross writ ten years since, to John Evelyn of Depthford, esq. / by Dr. Barlow ... Barlow, Thomas, 1607-1691. 1679 (1679) Wing B834; ESTC R12483 26,860 40

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be_v utter_o unlawful_a to_o picture_n the_o deity_n and_o so_o all_o use_n of_o any_o pencil_n as_o to_o this_o purpose_n of_o paint_v the_o divinity_n be_v forbid_v whence_o it_o follow_v by_o the_o cardinal_n logic_n eadem_fw-la est_fw-la ratio_fw-la stili_fw-la &_o penicilli_fw-la that_o as_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o paint_v the_o divinity_n with_o the_o pencil_n so_o it_o must_v be_v unlawful_a to_o express_v and_o describe_v it_o with_o the_o pen_n but_o this_o be_v evident_o untrue_a for_o not_o only_o the_o operation_n and_o person_n and_o property_n of_o god_n but_o his_o nature_n and_o divinity_n be_v by_o the_o pen_n full_o describe_v in_o scripture_n and_o out_o of_o it_o by_o all_o divine_v ancient_a and_o modern_a protestant_n and_o papist_n by_o which_o it_o further_o appear_v that_o the_o cardinal_n position_n quod_fw-la describitur_fw-la idem_fw-la &_o pingitur_fw-la quia_fw-la eadem_fw-la ratio_fw-la stili_fw-la &_o penicilli_fw-la be_v untrue_a and_o apocryphal_a see_v it_o be_v and_o ever_o be_v lawful_a to_o describe_v the_o divinity_n of_o god_n by_o the_o pen_n and_o yet_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o all_o side_n it_o neither_o be_v nor_o ever_o be_v