to_o that_o interpretation_n thereof_o which_o the_o supreme_a authority_n in_o the_o church_n that_o have_v be_v heretofore_o convene_v about_o such_o matter_n have_v so_o often_o and_o always_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n decide_v to_o he_o and_o so_o to_o act_v according_a to_o its_o injunction_n §_o 26_o iii_o but_o if_o these_o council_n be_v decline_v as_o not_o be_v so_o ancient_a as_o some_o may_v expect_v i._n e._n not_o hold_v before_o some_o controversy_n happen_v in_o the_o church_n touch_v the_o point_n they_o decide_v catholic_n still_o have_v another_o very_a rational_a ground_n of_o such_o a_o sense_n of_o the_o divine_a writ_n viz._n the_o evident_a testimony_n of_o the_o more_o primitive_a time_n which_o that_o they_o have_v convey_v the_o tradition_n of_o such_o a_o sense_n to_o the_o present_a church_n and_o to_o these_o former_a council_n to_o repeat_v what_o have_v be_v say_v already_o in_o consideration_n on_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n §_o 321._o n._n 1._o 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among_o the_o latin_n do_v as_o it_o be_v in_o imitation_n of_o the_o greek_a conceive_v a_o kind_n of_o consubstantiation_n partly_o like_a partly_o unlike_a to_o what_o many_o german_n he_o mean_v lutheran_n now_o maintain_v which_o to_o speak_v proper_o aught_o to_o be_v call_v impanation_n or_o assumption_n of_o the_o bread_n by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o c._n 20._o he_o go_v on_o the_o opinion_n of_o paschasius_fw-la who_o he_o make_v leader_n in_o the_o western_a as_o damascen_n in_o the_o greek_a church_n have_v advance_v before_o a._n d._n 900._o a_o impanation_n of_o the_o word_n fortify_v and_o get_v credit_n by_o degree_n the_o establishment_n of_o which_o say_v he_o p._n 440._o both_o damascen_n and_o paschasius_fw-la design_v wherein_o he_o say_v p._n 441._o they_o suppose_v a_o kind_n of_o identity_n between_o the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o natural_a body_n of_o christ_n found_v upon_o the_o inhabitation_n of_o the_o deity_n in_o they_o which_o at_o last_o produce_v 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reviver_n of_o this_o rubric_n change_v here_o the_o word_n of_o the_o former_a no_o adoration_n ought_v to_o be_v do_v to_o the_o real_a and_o essential_a into_o no_o adoration_n ought_v to_o be_v do_v to_o the_o corporal_a presence_n 1._o yet_o methinks_v here_o also_o first_o they_o shall_v have_v more_o clear_o express_v this_o to_o prevent_v such_o a_o misapprehension_n 2._o adoration_n be_v grant_v due_a in_o one_o way_n as_o not_o due_a in_o another_o §_o 54_o and_o christ_n natural_a body_n be_v grant_v present_a one_o way_n as_o not_o present_a in_o another_o methinks_v the_o former_a shall_v have_v be_v express_v as_o much_o or_o more_o than_o the_o latter_a and_o the_o whole_a frame_n of_o the_o declaration_n have_v be_v change_v thus_o according_a to_o the_o true_a meaning_n of_o those_o who_o receive_v it_o viz._n that_o adoration_n be_v intend_v and_o ought_v to_o be_v do_v though_o not_o to_o the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n there_o bodily_a receive_v because_o the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v still_o in_o their_o very_a natural_a substance_n and_o therefore_o may_v not_o be_v adore_v yet_o aught_o to_o be_v do_v to_o the_o real_a and_o essential_a presence_n of_o christ_n natural_a flesh_n and_o blood_n because_o the_o natural_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n be_v not_o only_o in_o heaven_n but_o also_o true_o in_o the_o eucharist_n it_o be_v not_o against_o the_o truth_n of_o christ_n natural_a body_n if_o not_o after_o a_o natural_a manner_n yet_o in_o its_o true_a reality_n and_o essence_n after_o some_o other_o manner_n effect_v supernatural_o by_o divine_a power_n to_o be_v at_o one_o time_n in_o more_o place_n than_o one_o §_o 55_o last_o in_o opposition_n to_o the_o protestant_a testimony_n here_o produce_v perhaps_o some_o other_o may_v be_v collect_v out_o of_o the_o same_o author_n that_o seem_v to_o qualify_v these_o here_o set_v down_o and_o better_a to_o suit_n with_o the_o expression_n of_o this_o declaration_n but_o neither_o will_v this_o afford_v any_o relief_n for_o to_o free_v they_o from_o a_o real_a contradiction_n the_o sense_n of_o the_o other_o reduce_v to_o those_o here_o cite_v with_o leave_v all_o thing_n in_o the_o same_o state_n or_o else_o the_o sense_n of_o these_o accommodate_v to_o other_o will_v appear_v to_o abett_v no_o more_o than_o bare_a zuinglianism_n i._n e._n a_o absolute_a non-presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o eucharist_n save_v only_o in_o its_o virtue_n and_o effect_n and_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o spirit_n etc._n etc._n and_o to_o oppose_v and_o destroy_v the_o general_a tradition_n and_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n finis_fw-la the_o catholic_n defence_n for_o their_o adoration_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n as_o believe_v real_o and_o substantial_o present_a in_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n at_o oxford_n print_v anno_fw-la 1687._o thesis_n of_o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n content_n 1._o protestant-concessions_a §_o 1._o 2._o catholick-assertion_n §_o 1._o presupposition_n §_o 1._o 1._o of_o a_o precept_n of_o give_v divine_a worship_n to_o our_o lord._n §_o 1._o 2._o of_o our_o lord_n whole_a person_n its_o be_v where_o his_o body_n be_v §_o 2._o 3._o of_o this_o divine_a person_n be_v supreme_o adorable_a wherever_o his_o body_n be_v grant_v by_o protestant_n §_o 3._o not_o only_o in_o virtue_n but_o substance_n §_o 5._o 4._o that_o this_o presence_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n and_o blood_n be_v by_o protestant_n affirm_v in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o that_o this_o body_n be_v then_o to_o be_v worship_v with_o supreme_a adoration_n §_o 5._o 5._o further_o affirm_v that_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n be_v present_v not_o only_o to_o the_o worthy_a communicant_a but_o to_o the_o symbol_n and_o whilst_o present_a be_v to_o be_v adore_v §_o 7._o 6._o grant_v by_o daille_n that_o though_o he_o and_o he_o believe_v not_o christ_n body_n present_a in_o the_o sign_n yet_o they_o for_o this_o break_v not_o communion_n with_o those_o that_o hold_v it_o §_o 8._o catholic_n assertion_n 1._o a_o sign_n or_o symbol_n to_o remain_v after_o consecoration_n distinct_a from_o the_o thing_n signify_v §_o 9_o this_o external_a sign_n to_o be_v all_o that_o which_o be_v perceptible_a by_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n though_o not_o their_o substance_n §_o 10._o 2._o the_o word_n sacrament_n to_o be_v take_v not_o always_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n but_o sometime_o for_o the_o sign_n or_o symbol_n sometime_o for_o the_o thing_n signify_v §_o 11._o 3._o catholic_n grind_v adoration_n not_o on_o transubstantiation_n which_o as_o also_o consubstantiantion_n involve_v it_o but_o on_o real_a presence_n with_o the_o symbol_n maintain_v adoration_n due_a though_o christ_n body_n be_v present_a neither_o under_o the_o accident_n of_o bread_n as_o catholic_n say_v nor_o under_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n as_o lutheran_n say_v but_o after_o some_o other_o unknown_a manner_n distinct_a from_o both_o §_o §_o â—7_n 4._o suppose_v not_o grant_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bstantiation_n a_o error_n yet_o if_o corporal_n or_o real_a presâ—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o lutheran_n be_v true_a catholic_n plead_v their_o adoration_n warrantable_a §_o 18._o 5._o suppose_v real_a presence_n a_o error_n and_o the_o lutheran_n and_o roman_a church_n both_o mistake_v yet_o these_o latter_a in_o such_o adoration_n as_o excusable_a from_o idolatry_n as_o the_o other_o §_o 19_o 6._o suppose_v both_o the_o former_a opinion_n error_n and_o indeed_o no_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n with_o the_o symbol_n at_o all_o yet_o such_o adoration_n by_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o of_o christ_n who_o be_v a_o true_a object_n of_o supreme_a adoration_n and_o only_o mistake_v by_o they_o to_o be_v where_o he_o be_v not_o can_v be_v term_v such_o idolatry_n as_o be_v the_o profess_a worship_v of_o a_o object_n not_o at_o all_o adorable_a §_o 21._o 7._o whatever_o idolatry_n it_o be_v call_v in_o a_o manichean_a worship_v christ_n in_o the_o sun_n or_o in_o a_o israelite_n worship_v god_n in_o the_o calf_n at_o dan_n and_o bethel_n because_o adore_v a_o fancy_n of_o their_o own_o and_o a_o good_a intention_n ground_v on_o a_o culpable_a ignorance_n excuse_v none_o from_o idolatry_n yet_o since_o daille_n and_o perhaps_o other_o allow_v a_o reasonable_a though_o mistake_v ground_n of_o adoration_n sufficient_a for_o avoid_v the_o just_a imputation_n of_o idolatry_n hence_o if_o catholic_n can_v produce_v a_o rational_a ground_n of_o their_o apprehend_v christ_n present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n though_o possible_o mistake_v in_o it_o they_o be_v to_o be_v excuse_v from_o idolatry_n on_o the_o same_o term_n §_o 22._o catholic_n ground_n for_o their_o belief_n 1._o divine_a revelation_n §_o 24._o 2._o the_o declaration_n thereof_o by_o the_o supreme_a church-authority_n in_o council_n §_o 25._o 3._o the_o testimony_n of_o primitive_a time_n §_o 26._o 4._o the_o universal_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o late_a both_o eastern_a and_o western_a church_n §_o 27._o 5._o protestant_n concession_n §_o 28._o 8._o for_o these_o ground_n give_v by_o catholic_n idolatry_n by_o many_o protestant_n of_o late_a but_o faint_o charge_v upon_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n §_o 30._o 9_o catholic_n grant_v that_o to_o adore_v what_o be_v believe_v to_o be_v bread_n or_o perform_v the_o external_a sign_n of_o adoration_n to_o our_o lord_n as_o present_v there_o where_o the_o worshipper_n believe_v he_o be_v not_o be_v unlawful_a to_o be_v do_v by_o any_o whilst_o so_o persuade_v §_o 33._o catholic_n thesis_n concern_v the_o adoration_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o eucharist_n §_o 1_o concern_v the_o adoration_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n and_o so_o of_o his_o divine_a person_n as_o present_v in_o the_o eucharist_n 1._o i_o shall_v show_v what_o in_o reason_n be_v or_o must_v be_v concede_v by_o protestant_n 2._o 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