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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A09094	A brief discours contayning certayne reasons why Catholiques refuse to goe to church. Written by a learned and vertuous man, to a friend of his in England. And dedicated by I.H. to the Queenes most excellent Maiestie	Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610.	1580 (1580)	STC 19394; ESTC S102386	63,624	177

Psalmes in the stretes of Constantinople therby to allure the people to them And yet we may not say that their seruice was good like as we cānot say that the deuils talke was good with Christ albeit it were decked with allegation of scripture and other swéete words Although therfore their seruice be ful of scripture it is noe good argument that it is therfore infallible good For as S. Ierome sayeth of al Hereticks What soeuer they speake or thincke that they doe speake in the prayse of God it is the howling of woolues the bellowinge noyse of madde bullocks The reason whereof is that which the scholler of the Apostles S. Ignatius sayeth No man can cal him good or saye he doth wel that doth mingle euil with good Wherfore S. Augustine sayeth of the Donatistes schismatickes and Heretickes of his tyme that albeit they did sounde out Alleluia with as lusty a voyce as the Catholickes did and in many things else did agrée in Seruice with them more then now the Protestants doe with vs yet their seruice was impious and auayled them nothing And a litle after vpon the wordes of God vttered by the Prophete sayinge In manye thinges they were with me c. S. Austin sayeth thus God granteth that Heretyckes in many thinges are with him as in Sacramentes Cerimonies and the lyke But yet for all that they are not with me saieth God in al thinges For in that they are in schisme they are not with me in that they are in heresie they are not with me and therefore for these few things in the which they are not with me thos other many thinges in the which they are with me shal profit them nothing To come nerer to our purpose their owne Apostle and second Elias as they 〈◊〉 him Luther cōdemneth al their whole seruise for the denying onely of the real presence saying The Sacramentaries doe in vaine beleeue in God the father in God the sonne and in the holye Ghost and in Christ our Sauyour al this doth auayle them nothinge seeynge they doe denye this one Article as false of the reall presence Where as Christe doth saye This is my body Loe héere this Prophet with the same spirite wherewith he cōdemneth the Popes he condemneth the Protestants why should we beleeue him more in the one then in the other But now to shew wherein the Protestants seruice is euil it were sufficient to say that it is deuised of them selues and altogether different from al the seruice of Christendome besids and therefore not to be receaued by Catholickes with whom they deale too chyldishelye when they say their seruice differeth in nothing from the ould Catholicke seruice but onelye because it is in English therby thinckinge to make the simple people to haue the lesse scruple to come to it The which how false it is it shal appeare by that which I wil saye hereafter I myghte also bringe the opinion of all the hotter forte of Protestantes called the Puritayns who in wrytinge sermons and priuate speache doe vtterlye condemne the seruice whiche nowe Protestantes haue and thereupon doe refrayne from it as much as Catholicks But I wil geue more perticuler reasons as foloweth First the scripture is read there in false and shameles translations contayning manifest and wilful corruptions to drawe it to their owne purposes as hath bene shewed in particuler by manye learned men in their worckes and is lyke to be shortly more playnlye by the grace of God As for example throughe out the scripture where Idoles are forbidden they translate it Images as in Sainte Iohn they reade Children keepe your selues from Images Whereas the scripture sayeth Idoles And this is to make simple men beléeue that Idoles and Images are al one which is absurde For then where Moyses sayethe That God made man accordinge to his owne Image We should consequently say God made man accordinge to hys owne Idole Againe where in contrarie maner S. Paule sayth That a couetous man maketh his mony his Idole We shoulde saye that he maketh it his Image The which howe foolishe it is euerye man seethe and it can not stande with anye sence of the Scripture The like absurde translations they haue in infinite other thinges which I cannot stande to rehearse Let some man reade the latter ende of the xy chapter of the second booke of the Machabies where he shal see what labour their Inglishe translatour taketh to shifte ouer the woordes of the Scripture which talk of oblatiōs and prayers for the dead and by that one place let euerye man iudge of his fidelitie in the reste For I am sure that if a Boye should soe corrupte Tullies epistles in translatinge them in a Grammer Scoole he should be bréeched for his labour The Scripture therfore being read there in false translations it muste néedes seme to be false which is blasphemis against the holy Ghost the indyter of them Soe that by this it appeareth that that part of their seruice which they pretende to be Scripture is no Scripture because it is by the malice of the interpretour false the whiche Scripture can not be Secondly the seruice that Christians ought only to goe to shoulde be sayd as also the Sacramentes administred by Priestes and such as haue receyued the Sacrament of holy orders as al the general Councels and Fathers of the Churche shewe vnto vs. And S. Paule when he saythe That no man maye take vnto him this honour but he that is called as Aaron was Wherfore the same Paul aduiseth the Bishope Timothie not to geue this dignytie vnto any man but vpon grete consideration saying Doe not laye thy handes rashlye vppon any man But nowe that ether all or the moste parte of mynisters of Englande be méere laye men and noe preistes and consequentlye haue noe authoritie in these thinges it is euidente for manye causes as wel for that they haue not receaued the vnder Orders which they should haue done before 〈◊〉 as appeareth by the auncyent Councel of Carthage wherin Saint Augustine was himselfe and by al the Fathers bothe before and since as allso because they are not ordayned by such a Bishoppe and Preist as the Catholicke Church hath put in that aucthoritye which admitteth noe man for Bishoppe which is not ordeyned by imposicion of thrée or two Catholicke Bishoppes handes at the least Of al which thinges none are to be founde amongest the Protestantes Thyrdlye their seruice is nought because they haue dyuers false and blasphemous thinges therein and that which is yet worse they soe place those things as they may séeme to the simple to be verye Scrypture As for example In the end of a certayne Geneua Psalme They praye to God to kéepe them from Pope Lurcks and Papistrye which is blasphemous First for ioyninge the supreme minister and substytute of Christ