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A13773 Positions lately held by the L. Du Perron, Bishop of Eureux, against the sufficiency and perfection of the scriptures maintaning the necessitie and authoritie of vnwritten traditions. Verie learnedly answered and confuted by D. Daniell Tillenus, Professor of Diuinitie in the Vniuersitie of Sedan. VVith a defence of the sufficiency and perfection of the holy scriptures by the same author. Faithfully translated. Tilenus, Daniel, 1563-1633.; Du Perron, Jacques Davy, 1556-1618. Discours sur l'autorité.; Tilenus, Daniel, 1563-1633. Defence of the sufficiency and perfection of the holy scripture. aut 1606 (1606) STC 24071; ESTC S101997 143,995 256

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the_o most_o part_n take_v out_o of_o origen_n that_o be_v out_o of_o the_o original_n of_o the_o most_o part_n of_o his_o error_n move_v i_o to_o put_v this_o opinion_n of_o saint_n hilary_n in_o the_o rank_n of_o other_o whole_o erroneous_a which_o be_v find_v in_o his_o writing_n as_o when_o he_o attribute_v to_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n a_o body_n uncapable_a of_o weariness_n of_o hunger_n of_o thirst_n &_o of_o all_o dolour_n condemn_v of_o error_n ●8_o lib._n 10._o de_fw-fr trin._n in_o psal_n ●8_o those_o which_o by_o his_o suffering_n conclude_v the_o dolour_n when_o he_o speak_v in_o such_o sort_n of_o the_o incarnation_n of_o christ_n as_o if_o the_o holy_a virgin_n have_v but_o bear_v &_o bring_v he_o forth_o without_o contribute_v any_o thing_n of_o her_o substance_n to_o his_o flesh_n trin._n lib._n 8._o de_fw-fr trin._n when_o he_o say_v that_o we_o be_v one_o with_o the_o father_n by_o nature_n and_o not_o only_o by_o similitude_n or_o adoption_n when_o he_o think_v that_o moses_n be_v yet_o alive_a atlea_v by_o the_o judgement_n of_o bellarmine_n notwithstanding_o that_o the_o holy_a scripture_n say_v the_o contrary_a in_o express_a term_n &c_n matth._n inc_fw-la 17_o de_fw-la purgat_fw-la l_o 2_o c._n 8._o deu_fw-la 34.5_o &c_n &c_n learn_v here_o bishop_n that_o it_o be_v better_a to_o skip_v over_o such_o place_n impure_a and_o dangerous_a than_o to_o defile_v a_o man_n self_n and_o run_v headlong_o into_o danger_n by_o abide_v upon_o they_o epiphanius_n recite_v that_o certain_a monstrous_a heretic_n gather_v the_o spittle_n &_o other_o ordure_n which_o issue_v from_o the_o body_n of_o certain_a woman_n descend_v of_o their_o archhereticke_n 53._o ●osh_fw-mi 1.1.2_o haeres_fw-la 53._o for_o to_o keep_v they_o in_o manner_n of_o relic_n and_o to_o apply_v they_o to_o sick_a person_n in_o like_a sort_n do_v they_o who_o cherish_v their_o spiritual_a malady_n by_o the_o uncleanness_n which_o they_o gather_v from_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o 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