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A10441 A briefe shevv of the false vvares packt together in the named, Apology of the Churche of England. By Iohn Rastell M. of Art and student of diuinitie; Briefe shew of the false wares packt together in the named, Apology of the Church of England. Rastell, John, 1532-1577. 1567 (1567) STC 20725; ESTC S105169 95,697 284

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