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A81501 The Discipline and order of particular churches, no novelty. Proved from Scripture, reason, autiquity, and the most eminent modern divines. Or, A discourse of the church, in a scripture notion, with her extent, power and practice, tending to moderate the minds of men, toward dissenters in matters ecclesiastical, and to acquit such from the charge of innovation, faction, separation, schism, and breach of union and peace in the church, who cannot conform in many things to the rules, canons, and practices of others. / By a Lover of truth, peace, unity, and order. Lover of truth, peace, unity, and order. 1675 (1675) Wing D1558A; ESTC R174652 61,995 98

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he_o tell_v this_o church_n in_o general_n that_o they_o do_v affect_v eusebius_n and_o will_v have_v elect_v he_o to_o be_v their_o bishop_n and_o then_o he_o persuade_v they_o to_o choose_v another_o see_v all_o do_v not_o agree_v therefore_o say_v he_o not_o lawful_a because_o say_v he_o he_o that_o be_v elect_v to_o a_o bishopric_n by_o the_o general_a suffrage_n of_o wise_a man_n assemble_v to_o deliberate_v thereof_o aught_o by_o god_n law_n to_o enjoy_v it_o this_o be_v record_v in_o eusebius_n of_o the_o life_n of_o constantine_n lib._n 3._o cap._n 58._o p._n 52._o yea_o the_o great_a nicene_n council_n agree_v it_o in_o these_o word_n express_v in_o socrat._v lib._n 1._o cap._n 6._o p._n 225._o speak_v about_o some_o who_o may_v be_v in_o a_o capacity_n of_o be_v make_v minister_n they_o say_v if_o they_o be_v find_v worthy_a and_o the_o people_n choose_v they_o they_o may_v succeed_v the_o decease_a etc._n etc._n yet_o further_o it_o be_v manifest_a by_o the_o same_o 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this_o practice_n of_o the_o particular_a church_n and_o their_o right_n thereto_o the_o father_n give_v in_o their_o testimony_n also_o a_o touch_n of_o they_o therefore_o tertul._n in_o his_o apol._n to_o the_o gent._n cap._n 39_o p._n 137._o english_a translation_n say_v that_o in_o these_o assembly_n there_o be_v bishop_n that_o preside_v they_o be_v approve_v of_o by_o the_o suffrage_n of_o they_o who_o they_o ought_v to_o conduct_v so_o say_v many_o other_o 95._o possidon_n in_o vita_fw-la aug._n cap._n 4._o leo._n 1._o epist_n 95._o quote_v by_o the_o magdeburg_n divine_v cent._n 2._o cap._n 7._o col_fw-fr 134_o 135._o cent._n 1._o lib._n 1._o cap._n 4._o col_fw-fr 179._o cent._n 3._o cap._n 6._o col_fw-fr 146_o 147._o the_o roman_a presbyter_n in_o their_o epistle_n to_o cyrian_a affirm_v that_o every_o church_n have_v a_o like_a power_n of_o choose_v call_v and_o ordain_v minister_n and_o for_o just_a cause_n again_o to_o depose_v they_o 68_o cyprian_a lib._n 1._o epist_n 4._o aug._n epist_n 100_o cyprian_a epist_n 68_o and_o cyprian_n himself_o say_v that_o the_o right_n of_o choose_v such_o as_o be_v fit_a and_o refuse_v the_o unworthy_a belong_v to_o the_o people_n and_o whole_a church_n and_o that_o by_o divine_a authority_n and_o that_o the_o officer_n and_o people_n do_v consult_v about_o it_o with_o common_a consent_n and_o for_o these_o thing_n he_o be_v quote_v by_o the_o magdeburg_n writer_n cent._n 3._o cap._n 7._o col_fw-fr 153.173_o 174_o 175._o cap._n 6._o col_fw-fr 135_o 136.146_o and_o also_o that_o the_o people_n do_v consider_v the_o life_n and_o manner_n of_o the_o person_n to_o be_v choose_v and_o judge_v and_o much_o more_o to_o this_o purpose_n in_o those_o place_n before_o 11._o john_n ferus_fw-la a_o friar_n in_o his_o comment_n upon_o act._n 11._o and_o magdeburg_n cent._n 5._o cap._n 6._o col_fw-fr 178_o 179_o 180._o now_o we_o shall_v add_v a_o few_o testimony_n and_o judgement_n of_o latter_a age_n and_o of_o man_n otherwise_o differ_v the_o papist_n themselves_o at_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n acknowledge_v that_o this_o be_v the_o usual_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n for_o 800_o year_n together_o after_o christ_n for_o the_o particular_a church_n to_o choose_v their_o own_o minister_n and_o they_o then_o affirm_v that_o there_o be_v remain_v at_o that_o day_n the_o record_n thereof_o at_o rome_n and_o they_o then_o and_o there_o desire_v that_o those_o record_n may_v be_v destroy_v lest_o luther_n who_o maintain_v this_o right_n to_o the_o people_n shall_v make_v use_n of_o they_o to_o bring_v in_o the_o custom_n into_o the_o church_n again_o and_o they_o there_o also_o acknowledge_v that_o this_o be_v take_v from_o the_o church_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o council_n only_o who_o make_v a_o decree_n against_o it_o ●76_n see_v the_o conference_n of_o rayno'd_n &_o hart_n c._n 6._o p._n 223._o hart_n say_v out_o of_o genebrard_n that_o clemens_n take_v not_o the_o bishopric_n by_o the_o council_n of_o the_o lord_n lest_o the_o example_n of_o take_v it_o by_o nomination_n of_o peter_n shall_v pass_v to_o posterity_n and_o derogate_v from_o the_o free_a providence_n of_o the_o church_n in_o choose_v of_o her_o own_o bishop_n geneb●ard_n chronolg_n l._n 3._o in_o lin._n see_v more_o l._n 4._o seculo_fw-la 11._o cite_v in_o the_o same_o confer_v cap._n 7._o l_o ●76_n council_n trident._n in_o english_a lib_n 7._o p._n 590_o 591.598_o see_v more_o of_o the_o same_o council_n lib._n 8._o p._n 725._o and_o he_o that_o write_v this_o history_n complain_v against_o rome_n about_o this_o in_o these_o word_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n grant_v not_o the_o people_n the_o election_n of_o their_o minister_n which_o certain_o say_v he_o be_v a_o apostolical_a institution_n continue_v more_o than_o 800_o year_n council_n trident._n lib._n 2._o p._n 163._o bishop_n jewel_n in_o his_o reply_n to_o mr._n harding_n p._n 230._o say_v out_o of_o cyprian_a lib._n 1._o epist_n 4._o that_o the_o bishopric_n be_v bestow_v upon_o sabinus_n by_o the_o consent_n and_o voice_n of_o the_o whole_a brotherhood_n of_o that_o church_n to_o which_o he_o be_v to_o be_v bishop_n he_o there_o say_v that_o honorius_n the_o emperor_n write_v to_o boneface_v do_v agree_v he_o to_o be_v bishop_n who_o some_o of_o the_o clergy_n and_o whole_a brotherhood_n shall_v choose_v and_o the_o bishop_n himself_o then_o there_o affirm_v from_o hence_o that_o every_o particular_a church_n be_v call_v the_o whole_a church_n and_o after_o in_o p._n 282._o the_o bishop_n affirm_v that_o cyprian_a in_o the_o same_o place_n say_v that_o the_o people_n be_v obedient_a to_o god_n law_n have_v power_n especial_o to_o choose_v worthy_a or_o refuse_v unworthy_a priest_n mr._n stillingfleet_n in_o his_o irenicum_fw-la p._n 306._o quote_v tertul._n exhort_v castil_v c._n 7._o for_o these_o word_n that_o all_o the_o difference_n between_o the_o minister_n and_o people_n come_v from_o the_o church_n authority_n 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62._o he_o quote_v ambros_n and_o augustine_n against_o impose_v of_o thing_n indifferent_a upon_o this_o very_a ground_n because_o they_o answer_v not_o the_o end_v intend_v but_o produce_v the_o contrary_a effect_n and_o he_o therefore_o cite_v these_o word_n of_o august_n to_o this_o purpose_n i_o say_v aug._n have_v often_o find_v it_o to_o my_o grief_n and_o sorrow_n that_o the_o trouble_n of_o weak_a christian_n have_v be_v cause_v by_o the_o contentious_a obstinacy_n of_o some_o on_o the_o one_o hand_n and_o the_o superstitious_a fearfullness_n of_o other_o on_o the_o other_o in_o thing_n which_o be_v neither_o determine_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o holy_a scripture_n nor_o by_o custom_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n nor_o yet_o by_o any_o usefullnesse_n of_o the_o thing_n themselves_o in_o order_n to_o the_o make_n of_o man_n life_n better_a only_o for_o some_o petty_a reason_n in_o a_o man_n own_o mind_n or_o because_o it_o have_v be_v the_o custom_n of_o their_o country_n 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be_v nothing_o else_o but_o their_o election_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o all_o the_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n now_o use_v be_v but_o novelty_n and_o martin_n bucer_n for_o these_o conclusion_n in_o his_o aforesaid_a book_n and_o in_o his_o scripta_fw-la anglicana_n of_o the_o office_n of_o pastor_n p._n 154._o 159._o 191._o and_o on_o mat._n 16._o that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n on_o those_o choose_a minister_n belong_v to_o the_o presbyter_n but_o that_o this_o they_o have_v not_o original_o but_o only_o instrumental_o as_o servant_n to_o the_o whole_a congregation_n and_o that_o this_o aught_o to_o be_v do_v public_o in_o the_o church_n where_o they_o be_v elect_v before_o all_o the_o congregation_n and_o that_o the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v no_o essential_a part_n of_o ordination_n 590._o luther_n hold_v this_o council_n trident_n l._n 7._o p._n 590._o but_o that_o it_o may_v be_v omit_v and_o that_o those_o who_o be_v elect_v and_o lawful_o call_v to_o the_o ministry_n by_o the_o suffrage_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o people_n be_v minister_n lawful_o call_v and_o ordain_v without_o this_o ceremony_n and_o mr._n prin_fw-mi there_o further_o prove_v this_o by_o david_n blond_n apol._n sect._n 3._o de_fw-fr ordinatione_fw-la &_o plebis_fw-la in_o electionibus_fw-la jure_fw-la from_o p._n 309._o to_o 448._o he_o also_o affirm_v p._n 81._o that_o morney_n amesius_n 11._o morney_n lord_n of_o plessis_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr eccesia_n cap._n 11._o and_o sundry_a other_o there_o quote_v say_v that_o the_o people_n alone_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n where_o be_v no_o bishop_n or_o minister_n or_o where_o bishop_n refuse_v to_o ordain_v as_o they_o ought_v may_v elect_a and_o ordain_v minister_n the_o right_a of_o ordination_n and_o election_n be_v original_o in_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o people_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v no_o essential_a but_o ceremonial_a part_n of_o ordination_n as_o angelus_n de_fw-fr clavaso_n peter_n martyr_n 79._o mr._n baxter_n body_n of_o divinity_n of_o ordination_n p._n 79._o and_o other_o both_o papist_n and_o protestant_n affirm_v mr._n stillingfleet_n in_o his_o irenicum_fw-la p._n 392._o where_o he_o transcribe_v bishop_n cranmers_n answer_n to_o the_o question_n before_o mention_v have_v set_v down_o these_o word_n among_o other_o as_o the_o bishop_n own_o word_n the_o bishop_n have_v affirm_v that_o the_o people_n before_o christian_a prince_n do_v common_o elect_a their_o bishop_n and_o priest_n say_v further_a that_o in_o the_o new-testament_n he_o that_o be_v appoint_v to_o be_v priest_n or_o bishop_n need_v no_o consecration_n for_o election_n or_o appointment_n thereto_o say_v he_o be_v sufficient_a now_o have_v so_o great_a a_o cloud_n of_o witness_n beyond_o all_o exception_n and_o a_o concurrent_a sentence_n in_o this_o matter_n by_o person_n at_o so_o great_a a_o distance_n each_o from_o other_o in_o their_o judgement_n in_o other_o thing_n and_o live_v 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