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A60564 The Quaker disarm'd, or, A true relation of a late publick dispute held at Cambridge by three eminent Quakers against one scholar of Cambridge ; with a letter in defence of the ministry and against lay-preachers ; also several quæries proposed to the Quakers to be answered if they can. Smith, Thomas, 1623 or 4-1661.; Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.; Allen, William, d. 1686.; Fox, George, 1624-1691. 1659 (1659) Wing S4227; ESTC R18877 22,488 24

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other who made the Bee which is somewhat bigger and hath a sting He yielded that the Devil made it From a Bee they proceeded to a Locust from a Locust to a Lizard so to a Bird to a Sheep to an Oxe to an Elephant to a Man And thus was the silly man deluded into a perswasion that he himself was not Gods Creature Just such a dreadful Conclusion do most of these people make who think it lawful for a Tinker or a man not ordained to preach are they not ready to pull down the Church walls to mend the High wayes you know who desired it To take the Bells out of the Steeple and carry them in Butter-panniers to London and sell them you know who did it Do they not cry that Sacraments are needless meer empty Ceremonies Preaching Foolishness Paul and Barnabas the sons of the Prophets Bablers Are they not ready to cry down Faith for a fancy All Clergie-men as Limbs of Antichrist Devotion as an emasculating trick of Machiavel In a word if these men may prevail down go Presbyters as well as Bishops Universities Schools Hospitals All thoughts of God All Reverence to his Word and all that is Holy And instead of these in rusheth Carneades's Philosophy that gain is Godliness and then the poorest hireling in the Town will soon have as much land as you or your Heir For men will turn from being an orderly Common-wealth to be a Community of Bears Tygers to delight in tearing and devouring each other from living in civil conversation they come to joyn hands in that grand piracy wherein the stronger swallow up the weaker upon no other pretence of right or reason imaginable but because they are the stronger saying with the Atheists Wisd. 2 1● Our strength is in the law of Iustice and that which is feeble is found to be nothing worth 41. But I see this paper swells above the ordinary extent of a letter and therefore I shall draw to a conclusion when I have spoke to one particular which is the common talk of this County viz. That one of your daughters being troubled in mind you sent for this Tinker to quiet her conscience 42. Sr. I know you are a man of so much prudence that if her or your temporall life were shaken with a palsy or the title to a parcell of your visible estate questioned by some potent-man you would not think it enough to employ a cheap Atturney or an ordinary Agent or send for some country dame to administer her kitchin physick but the ablest counsellors and the skilfullest Doctors should be posted to and exceeding much wariness and diligent attendances made use of and all thought little enough For truly a mans life and health and sometimes his estate is worth all this and in some cases it needs it all But then I beseech you do you beleeve your immortall soul for which Jesus laid down his precious bloud the only triflle and toy about you Are there not a thousand dangers and a million of difficulties and innumerable possibilities of miscarriage And how then comes it to passe that you think a Tinker or mean ignorant person can serve here If a man or woman be sick saith St. Iames 5.14 let him send for the Presbyters of the Church and let them pray over him 'T is needfull certainly to have such guides St. Iames knew which were best to steer the vessell when a stormy passion or a violent imagination despair or presumption transport a man to awaken his reason and quicken his devotion 43. And truely considering how like beasts of the heard men both of high and low degree do live in this age t is but reason that there should be a deal of retirement and initiation industry and instruction to educate such a person to tame the beast within him to subjucate his lower soul to enlighten his naturall and ●ctuate his spirituall powers to clear his eyesight that he may have a plain prospect of those gaities which the worldling dotes on and a true sense of the realities above to instruct his understanding and judgment that he may be able to resolve the many abstruce and intricate cases of conscience to confute the infinit● company of impudent hereticks and gainsayers which St. Paul notwithstandin● your anger looks upon as the preachers duty Tit. 1.9 to prepare him for so high and difficult an employment 44. I would now use some arguments drawn from reason and common sense to prove t is unlawfull for this Tinker to preach but supposing that you believe Scriptures to be the word of God I think such arguments needless 45. Remember that he who commits Ieroboams sin doth justly incur Ieroboams punishment and to hear such a person as Ieroboam set up is to commit Ieroboams sin For if such men had no hearers no applauders they would soon lay preaching aside To hear him then is to partake of his sin which the Apostle bids us beware of Rev. 18.4 Eph. 5.7 Besides he that hears such throwes his Soul unnecessarily upon temptations and out of the promise of Gods blessings for no blesing is promised to any but while he is doing that which God commands now he commands us to hear our Sheepheards Io. 10.1 to hear Moses and the Prophets Matt. 16.31 and those that sit in Moses chair Matt. 23.3 But never commanded us to hear the lowest of the people or men not ordained To this I might add that the flock must be under an oversight Act. 18 23.-20.28 1 Pet. 5.2 1 Thes. 5.12 Heb. 13.17.24 A mans own pastor hath a more speciall dispensation of the grace of God Eph. 3.2 and a pastors more especial tye to his flock than another argues that they are more especially tyed to him He is appointed to feed them they therefore to hear him 46. I shall commend you to the work of Gods grace when I have entreated you to consider the words of our Saviour Iohn 10.5 the sheep of Christ will not hear the voice of a stranger but will fly from him The sheep here are those who shall stand at the right hand of Jesus in the day of judgment Mat. 25.33 as the T. confessed when I urged this text against him And that by a stranger is meant an intruder into the sacerdotall office appears by comparing this place with Num. 16 40-1.51-3.10-18.7 And with other texts where this word is interpreted to be one that is not a Levite one not ordein'd by imposition of hands as the Preachers were not only in the first and best times of Christianity 1. Tim. 4 15-5 22-2.22-3.10.6.13.14 2. Tim. 1.6 Tit. 1.5 but also ever since in all places all ages till this 47 And now Sir let me beseech you for Gods sake for Christs sake for his Churches sake for your reputation sake for your childrens sake for your Countrys sake for your own immortall souls sake to consider these things sadly and seriously not to think a Tinker more infallible then the pu●● spouse of Christ the Church of all ages mentioned in your creed but to search the Scriptures 〈◊〉 Canon whereof you receive meerly upon the authority of that Church and to foresee what will be 〈◊〉 sad consequence both to the souls and bodies and estates of you and your children in following 〈◊〉 strangers Entreating you to peruse also this enclosed printed paper against Lay-preachers I bes●●● the Lord to give you and yours understanding in all things remaining Your faithfull Servan● in Christ Jesus Caucat May