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A61556 The grand question, concerning the Bishops right to vote in Parliament in cases capital stated and argued, from the Parliament-rolls, and the history of former times : with an enquiry into their peerage, and the three estates in Parliament. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1680 (1680) Wing S5594; ESTC R19869 81,456 194

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regni_fw-la anglie_a spirituales_fw-la &_o temporales_fw-la &_o ejusdem_fw-la regni_fw-la communitates_fw-la omnes_fw-la status_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la regni_fw-la representantes_fw-la by_o the_o peer_n and_o lord_n spiritual_a and_o temporal_a and_o the_o commons_o of_o the_o kingdom_n represent_v all_o the_o state_n of_o the_o kingdom_n where_o observe_v 1._o the_o bishop_n be_v call_v peer_n as_o well_o as_o the_o temporal_a lord_n 2._o the_o estate_n of_o the_o parliament_n be_v to_o represent_v all_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n 3._o the_o three_o estate_n in_o parliament_n be_v the_o lord_n spiritual_a the_o lord_n temporal_a and_o the_o commons_o of_o the_o realm_n and_o fabian_n express_o call_v they_o the_o three_o estate_n of_o this_o present_a parliament_n 158._o represent_v the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o realm_n in_o the_o roll_n of_o parliament_n 1_o r._n iii_o it_o be_v record_v that_o before_o his_o coronation_n certain_a article_n be_v deliver_v unto_o he_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o three_o estate_n of_o the_o realm_n of_o england_n that_o be_v to_o say_v of_o the_o lord_n spiritual_a and_o temporal_a and_o of_o the_o commons_o by_o name_n etc._n etc._n now_o forasmuch_o as_o neither_o the_o say_v three_o estate_n neither_o the_o say_a person_n which_o in_o their_o name_n present_v and_o deliver_v as_o it_o be_v afore_o say_v the_o say_a roll_n unto_o our_o say_a sovereign_a lord_n the_o king_n be_v assemble_v in_o form_n of_o parliament_n divers_a doubt_n have_v be_v move_v etc._n etc._n now_o by_o the_o say_v three_o estate_n assemble_v in_o this_o present_a parliament_n and_o by_o authority_n of_o the_o same_o be_v ratify_v and_o enroll_v etc._n etc._n upon_o which_o mr._n pryn_n himself_o make_v this_o marginal_a note_n 714._o the_o three_o estate_n must_v concur_v to_o make_v a_o parliament_n no_o one_o or_o two_o of_o they_o be_v a_o full_a or_o real_a parliament_n but_o all_o conjoin_v but_o lest_o i_o shall_v seem_v to_o take_v 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