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A64454 A Testimony for the man, Christ Jesus repelling the poyson & fallacy of William Haworth's pretended antidote against the Quakers / from the people of [sic] Quakers at Hertford. 1676 (1676) Wing T811; ESTC R9910 11,419 18

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A TESTIMONY For the MAN Christ Jesus REPELLING The POYSON FALLACY of William Haworth's pretended Antidote against the Quakers From the People of QUAKERS at HERTFORD Jer. 23. 32. And they cause my People to Err by their Lyes and by their Lightness Printed in the Year 1676. A TESTIMONY For the Man Christ Jesus c. UPon perusal of William Haworth's late Pamphlet we find that it consists chiefly of Matter of Charge aggravated by reviling and of Answers to some Objections of his own framing to render the Quakers infamous and odious In both which we shall very briefly and perspicuously manifest his gross Abuse and Fallacy His Title is An Antidote against that Poysonous and Fundamental Error of the Quakers This makes a huge Bluster but what 's that Poysonous and fundamental Error he charges the Quakers with It is no less then Denying the same Numerical True Real Manhood of Jesus Christ in Heaven a place remote from the earth A sad Charge that makes an hideous Out-cry But the Quakers utterly deny the Matter charged not doubting but their Credit will go as far at least as Will Haworth's and farther then his Reviling to Aggravate in these words viz. That we should live to see the Day wherein so many Thousands pretending Christianity in this Nation should be so brazen-foreheaded as to disown Jesus of Nazareth to be the Messiah yet so it is O Tempora O Mores and farther adds These Damnable Delusions The man Christ is struck at by ungodly Seducers c. Epistle That the Quakers may not deceive you by their Juggles p. 3. Jesuitical Insinuations p. 20. How can the Quakers be Christians p. 15. Had Will. Haworth seriously considered that no Revilers shall inherit the Kingdom of God I Cor. 6. 10. and that all Lyars must have their Portion in the Lake he would have forborn this kind of treating us Here is a two fold Charge first denying the same true and real Manhood of Jesus Christ in Heaven c. 2dly Disowning Jesus of Nazareth to be the Messiah with his aggravating Exclamations against the Quakers both which are not only utterly denyed by the Quakers but also the said W. Haworth therein testified against as a disingenuous Person not so much as citing the Quakers words at the Dispute he mentions but from his own prejudiced Conceptions writes against us that wherein he is a manifest Slanderer and Forger and so led by a Lying Spirit For what 's his Proof or Quotation for such his Charge of denying the real Manhood of Jesus Christ or him to be the Messiah To make out this he tells his Much Honoured Friend Sr. John Hartop in these plain words viz. Sr. That which gave the Occasion of my Thoughts pitching upon this subject matter viz. Christ's Manhood in Heaven was that Dispute between Mr. Hicks and Mr. Penn at London concerning the same I being there present am satisfied by the Quakers fallacious Mannagement of that Discourse that they Deny the same Numerical True and Real Manhood of Christ in Heaven c. See now his pretended Proof of his great Charge is his own meer Opinion from that Dispute but whether herein he has not apparently acted the part of a Forger let all that impartially read the Account ‖ Which was published by Will. Mead Io. Osgood will Shewen Ed. Man Sa. Newton Ja. Claypool Will Welch who with many hundreds more can testifie to the Truth thereof and against Will Haworth's gross Abuse and Fallacy of that said Dispute between the Quakers and Baptists at Barbican judge See p. 26 of the Account where W. Penn speaks in the Name or Person of the Quakers thus viz. We do believe the Man Christ Jesus to be glorified in Heaven We do believe that holy Manhood to be in Heavenly Glory c. See now how far the Quakers are from denying the true real Manhood of Christ in Heaven or disowning Jesus of Nazareth to be the Messiah And therefore how guilty this Priest is of Forgery and manifest Slander herein The matter which he saith we deny being so openly by us confest at the same Dispute aforesaid only his artificial Term Numerical and his Addition of A PLACE REMOTE FROM THE EARTH were not the Terms of the Question at that Dispute he hath framed these since neither can we yet understand what Weight or Plainness his Logical Term Numerical addeth to the same True and real Manhood of Christ which we so plainly confessing We do believe the Man Christ Iesus to be glorified in Heaven was by judicious Hearers judged a sufficient Answer to the Question as then stated And as to his Addition of Place remote from the Earth we further add and confess that the same MAN Christ Jesus that suffered and was put to Death in the Flesh and raised from the Dead by the mighty Power of God ascended into Heaven God's Dwelling place ascended both as to a Change of Place State of Glory he is highly exalted in Power and Authority Angels Authorities and Powers being made subject unto him 1 et 3. 22. Being the Head of his Body the Church the Beginning the first born from the dead that in all things he might have the Preeminence Col. 1. 17. The God of our Father raised up Jesus whom ye slew and hanged on a Tree him hath God exalted with his right Hand to be a Prince and a S. A. VIOUR to give Repentance to Israel and Forgiveness of Sins Acts 5 30 31. So that the Power and Authority wherein he is exalted is both to be a Prince and a Saviour and to give Gifts and to be Head of his Body the Church in all Things to have the Preeminence and therefore this Exaltation and Power was not that he might remain in a Place remote and separate from his Body the Church which he is the Head of for that were to keep the Body and Head assunder so far remote from each other and then how should it be a Living Body or united to him page 10. whereas the Son of God had Power not only to ascend far above all Heavens but also to descend at his Pleasure to come again as he promised to be with his Disciples alway to the End having all Power in Heaven and in Earth given to him Mat. 28. John 14. Yet that Jesus Christ is now a true real Man in the Heavens is not deayed by the Quakers as this Opposer most falsly accuseth them page 2 but his Conclusion that therefore Jesus Christ is not here on Earth as he is Man but as to his Manhood only in Heaven a Place remote from us page 2 3. whilest he thus defines his Manhood viz. a Consisting of Soul and Body and that this Soul is in Heaven which he confesseth to be his Spirit from Luke 23. 46. By this Man's Limitation Jesus Christ not only as to his bodily Presence but also as to his Spiritual is not here on Earth in his Church And