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A56148 A catalogue of such testimonies in all ages as plainly evidence bishops and presbyters to be both one, equall and the same ... with a briefe answer to the objections out of antiquity, that seeme to the contrary. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1641 (1641) Wing P3922; ESTC S122412 42,609 43

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