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A45460 A reply to the Catholick gentlemans answer to the most materiall parts of the booke Of schisme whereto is annexed, an account of H.T. his appendix to his Manual of controversies, concerning the Abbot of Bangors answer to Augustine / by H. Hammond. Hammond, Henry, 1605-1660. 1654 (1654) Wing H598; ESTC R9274 139,505 188

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