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A10173 Protestants demonstrations, for Catholiks recusance All taken from such English Protestant bishops, doctors, ministers, parlaments, lawes, decrees, and proceedings, as haue beene printed, published, or allowed among them in England; since the cominge of our king Iames into this kingdome: and for the most parte within the first six or seuen yeares thereof. And euidentlie prouinge by their owne writings, that english Catholiks may not vnder damnable syn, co[m]municate with English Protestants, in their seruice, sermons, or matters of religion: and soe conuincinge by the[m]selues, their religio[n] to be most damnable, & among other things, their ministery to bee voide, false & vsurped. Broughton, Richard, attributed name. 1615 (1615) STC 20450; ESTC S112509 81,861 158

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ministry_n we_o be_v all_o one_o we_o be_v all_o of_o one_o faith_n we_o be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n by_o one_o order_n we_o preach_v one_o faith_n and_o substance_n of_o doctrine_n then_o which_o nothing_o be_v ever_o more_o true_o say_v or_o write_v 20._o willet_n antilog_n pag._n 15._o 20._o your_o great_a controvertist_n d._n willet_n write_v thus_o among_o protestant_n of_o ●ngland_n there_o be_v no_o difference_n or_o descent_n in_o any_o substantial_a point_n of_o faith_n as_o for_o puritan_n and_o caluinio-papists_a they_o be_v term_n of_o papist_n devisinge_v 52_o d._n georg●_n abb._n sup_v pa._n 90._o 106._o 236._o 237._o powell_n sup_v pag._n 48._o 52_o your_o present_a protestant_n archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n be_v so_o confident_a herein_o that_o he_o use_v thes_n word_n no_o goliath_n against_o we_o can_v prove_v the_o contrary_n d._n powell_n with_o public_a approbation_n have_v thes_n word_n no_o reformer_n ever_o distinguish_v between_o protestant_n and_o 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business_n the_o fi●st_a proposition_n be_v evident_o true_a for_o good_a thing_n and_o certain_a may_v not_o be_v leave_v and_o forsake_v for_o thinger_n either_o evil_n or_o uncertaine_o good_a and_o that_o man_n may_v not_o communicate_v in_o a_o strange_a religion_n be_v confirm_v by_o d._n covell_n and_o m._n hull_n provinge_v it_o by_o many_o 182._o covell_a exan_n ●a_n 200._o 201_o hul._n rom._n ●ol_n p._n 30._o 31_o 32._o 33._o 34._o sutcliff_n exan_n of_o petit_fw-la pa._n 10._o 11._o powel_n ref_o ●pist_v apologetic_n pag._n ●5_n 23._o 26._o 27._o 100_o 114_o 112._o 113._o etc._n etc._n feild_n pa._n 27_o pag._n 182._o example_n and_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n and_o antiquity_n t●at_o we_o may_v not_o communicate_v ●ith_n man_n of_o a_o diverse_a religion_n d._n sutcliffe_n tell_v we_o that_o such_o communion_n be_v reprove_v by_o the_o authority_n both_o of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o aun●i●nt_a christian_a emperor_n the_o like_a he_o testify_v of_o 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68_o do_v glad_o acknowledge_v they_o of_o the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v t●●_n family_n of_o ●hesus_fw-la christ_n they_o of_o rome_n be_v &_o still_o be_v in_o the_o church_n it_o ●●_o strange_a for_o any_o man_n to_o deny_v they_o of_o rome_n to_o be_v of_o the_o church_n we_o affirm_v they_o of_o the_o roman_a church_n 76._o covell_n supr_fw-la pag_n 73._o 76._o to_o be_v part_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o those_o that_o live_v and_o die_v in_o that_o church_n may_v be_v save_v yet_o both_o he_o and_o d._n feild_n give_v this_o sentence_n 182._o covell_a sup_n pag._n 76._o feild_n p._n 69._o field_n pag._n 182._o there_o i●_n no_o salvation_n remission_n of_o sin_n or_o hope_v of_o eternal_a life_n out_o of_o the_o church_n d._n field_n further_o tell_v we_o that_o diverse_a of_o the_o roman_a church_n even_o of_o the_o best_a learned_a that_o can_v not_o plead_v ignorance_n be_v save_v and_o saint_n in_o heaven_n their_o bishop_n barlowe_n have_v write_v how_o 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be_v rectify_v etc._n etc._n their_o opinion_n be_v that_o they_o have_v error_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o so_o not_o the_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n which_o by_o no_o possibility_n can_v admit_v such_o error_n nor_o any_o one_o lest_o error_n at_o all_o in_o religion_n again_o thus_o i_o argue_v none_o that_o have_v be_v condemn_v about_o article_n of_o faith_n or_o as_o heretic_n by_o general_a council_n have_v the_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n or_o may_v be_v communicate_v with_o in_o such_o religeous_a thing_n but_o the_o english_a protestant_n be_v such_o by_o their_o own_o judgment_n therefore_o they_o have_v not_o the_o pure_a word_n preach_v nor_o may_v be_v communicate_v with_o in_o religion_n the_o mayor_n proposition_n be_v evident_o true_a and_o shall_v more_o lardge_o be_v handle_v in_o my_o chapter_n that_o these_o englsh_a protestant_n by_o their_o own_o testimony_n be_v heretic_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n d._n covell_n write_v how_o we_o may_v not_o communicate_v 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