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A47617 An answer to the Bishop of Condom's book entituled, An exposition of the doctrin of the Caholick Church, upon matters of coutroversie [sic]. Written originally in French. La Bastide, Marc-Antoine de, ca. 1624-1704, attributed name. 1676 (1676) Wing L100; ESTC R221701 162,768 460

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