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firmilian_a which_o i_o do_v not_o doubt_v but_o you_o know_v your_o impertinency_n will_v have_v be_v apparent_a for_o this_o suppose_a your_o argument_n go_v thus_o some_o bishop_n special_o firmilian_a err_v against_o faith_n and_o blast_v for_o the_o time_n with_o the_o spirit_n of_o heresy_n write_v a_o contemptuous_a epistle_n against_o the_o sea_n of_o peter_n ergo_fw-la the_o sea_n of_o peter_n be_v not_o by_o divine_a institution_n the_o rock_n of_o the_o church_n against_o which_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n all_o heresye_n shall_v rage_n but_o never_o prevail_v second_o you_o notorious_o falsify_v the_o sentence_n of_o firmilian_a in_o make_v he_o to_o rail_v against_o the_o roman_a bishop_n be_v the_o successor_n of_o peter_n for_o this_o even_o in_o that_o his_o heretical_a passion_n whereof_o he_o afterward_o be_v 7._o be_v this_o be_v testify_v by_o dionysius_n alexandrinus_n who_o then_o live_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o xistus_fw-la the_o successor_n of_o s._n stephen_n apud_fw-la euseb._n l._n 7._o histor._n c._n 3._o &_o niceph_n l._n 6._o c_o 7._o penitent_a he_o never_o do_v yea_o he_o do_v rather_o acknowledge_v the_o roman_a bishop_n succession_n from_o peter_n and_o thence_o argue_v that_o see_v to_o peter_n only_o christ_n say_v to_o thou_o i_o will_v give_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n etc._n etc._n
though_o he_o deny_v the_o primacy_n of_o s._n peter_n yet_o be_v force_v by_o the_o evidence_n of_o the_o sacred_a text_n to_o grant_v that_o whence_o this_o primacy_n be_v prove_v first_o p._n 157._o that_o s._n peter_n have_v the_o primacy_n of_o spiritual_a authority_n &_o universal_a jurisdiction_n over_o the_o whole_a church_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n second_o that_o this_o be_v give_v he_o singular_o to_o wit_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o gospel_n matth._n 16.10_o joan._n 20.21_o by_o the_o singular_a order_n &_o institution_n christ_n apply_v to_o he_o now_o this_o do_v enforce_v monarchical_a primacy_n for_o the_o three_o different_a form_n of_o government_n democracy_n aristocracy_n monarchy_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o three_o different_a application_n of_o the_o primacy_n of_o jurisdiction_n universal_a to_o different_a person_n primacy_n of_o universal_a juridiction_n apply_v general_o to_o the_o whole_a commons_o be_v democracy_n apply_v principal_o to_o some_o few_o chief_a person_n of_o the_o state_n aristocracy_n apply_v singular_o to_o one_o individual_a person_n monarchy_n and_o what_o be_v understand_v by_o monarchy_n but_o primacy_n of_o power_n and_o universal_a jurisdiction_n apply_v singular_o to_o one_o individual_a person_n over_o all_o the_o affair_n of_o a_o whole_a and_o entiere_fw-fr state_n hence_o the_o apostle_n be_v as_o the_o father_n say_v both_o equal_a and_o inferior_a unto_o peter_n equal_a in_o that_o they_o have_v the_o same_o kind_n of_o power_n that_o peter_n have_v to_o wit_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o key-bearer_n of_o the_o rock_n of_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n nor_o do_v we_o read_v in_o the_o gospel_n any_o kind_n of_o power_n give_v to_o peter_n which_o be_v not_o also_o give_v for_o kind_a to_o the_o rest_n on_o the_o other_o side_n the_o other_o apostle_n be_v inferior_a unto_o peter_n as_o the_o same_o father_n affirm_v in_o that_o they_o have_v the_o same_o kind_n of_o power_n in_o a_o low_a degree_n with_o subordination_n unto_o peter_n as_o the_o chief_a no_o kind_n of_o power_n be_v give_v to_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o we_o do_v not_o express_o read_v in_o the_o gospel_n to_o have_v be_v give_v to_o s._n peter_n by_o singular_a commission_n order_n and_o institution_n whence_o it_o be_v consequent_a that_o peter_n be_v governor_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n with_o the_o rest_n in_o more_o eminent_a degree_n of_o power_n and_o jurisdiction_n than_o the_o rest_n all_o man_n be_v bind_v to_o obey_v he_o more_o special_o more_o singular_o and_o above_o the_o rest_n the_o eminency_n of_o the_o rest_n in_o the_o church_n be_v universal_a power_n have_v by_o commission_n direct_v common_o to_o they_o all_o whereby_o they_o all_o indifferent_o not_o one_o more_o than_o the_o other_o receive_v commission_n of_o power_n in_o respect_n of_o all_o man_n of_o the_o church_n distinct_a from_o themselves_o the_o eminency_n of_o peter_n in_o the_o church_n be_v universal_a power_n give_v by_o commission_n direct_v singular_o to_o his_o only_a person_n to_o peter_n the_o son_n of_o jonas_n matth._n 16.18_o whereby_o he_o be_v endue_v with_o primacy_n of_o ecclesiastical_a power_n in_o respect_n of_o all_o man_n in_o the_o church_n distinct_a from_o himself_o in_o which_o number_n all_o christian_n absolute_o be_v comprehend_v not_o one_o exclude_v and_o this_o be_v monarchy_n now_o if_o christ_n do_v ordain_v and_o institute_v monarchical_a government_n in_o his_o church_n than_o the_o government_n thereof_o must_v be_v and_o be_v ever_o monarchical_a and_o that_o peter_n still_o have_v have_v a_o monarchical_a successor_n but_o if_o he_o have_v such_o a_o successor_n it_o be_v by_o all_o history_n more_o evident_a than_o the_o sun_n that_o he_o have_v no_o other_o but_o the_o roman_a bishop_n what_o the_o minister_n here_o object_v against_o the_o roman_a bishop_n primacy_n be_v trivial_a stuff_n urge_v without_o any_o new_a difficulty_n to_o wit_n about_o the_o title_n of_o universal_a bishop_n the_o nicene_n canon_n contention_n of_o s._n cyprian_n with_o pope_n stephen_n the_o controversy_n of_o the_o african_n about_o appellation_n the_o asian_o resist_v pope_n victor_n all_o which_o instance_n true_o examine_v prove_v the_o primacy_n most_o evident_o as_o be_v show_v by_o bellarmine_n l._n 2_o the_o pontif._n &_o late_o by_o fidelis_n annosus_fw-la de_fw-la monarchia_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 5._o &_o 6._o primacy_n of_o s._n peter_n &_o his_o successor_n the_o fundation_n which_o christ_n lay_v of_o his_o church_n necessary_a for_o the_o perpetual_a government_n thereof_o matth._n 16.18_o three_o their_o question_v the_o infallible_a authority_n of_o lawful_a damnandus_fw-la lawful_a the_o minister_n here_o rayl_v against_o counsel_n gather_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o in_o most_o gross_a manner_n falsifi_v cusanus_fw-la in_o eight_o or_o nine_o particular_n but_o in_o fine_a he_o dare_v not_o make_v direct_a answer_n to_o the_o question_n propose_v whether_o protestant_n hold_v the_o definition_n of_o lawful_a general_n counsel_n to_o be_v infallible_a or_o not_o his_o answer_n hereunto_o be_v like_o the_o oracle_n of_o apollo_n give_v in_o general_a and_o doubtful_a term_n to_o wit_n that_o protestant_n give_v the_o same_o authority_n unto_o counsel_n that_o the_o ancient_a church_n do_v in_o the_o margin_n he_o cite_v s._n augustine_n that_o counsel_n of_o bishop_n be_v not_o to_o be_v equal_v unto_o scripture_n as_o doubtless_o they_o may_v not_o the_o truth_n be_v though_o he_o be_v ashamed_a to_o say_v it_o in_o plain_a term_n protestant_n hold_v general_a counsel_n lawful_o assemble_v to_o be_v inferior_a not_o only_o unto_o scripture_n but_o also_o unto_o their_o exposition_n thereof_o for_o they_o teach_v that_o counsel_n be_v not_o assist_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n that_o it_o be_v most_o pernicious_a yea_o abominable_a to_o 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