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he_o that_o he_o 14._o he_o anim._n adv_o p._n 14._o streyne_n too_o far_o &_o you_o allege_v the_o testimony_n of_o sundry_a learned_a man_n that_o disclaim_v such_o manner_n of_o argue_v &_o say_v that_o to_o reason_n 16._o reason_n ibid._n p._n 16._o from_o the_o magistrate_n to_o the_o minister_n from_o the_o sword_n to_o the_o word_n from_o the_o law_n to_o the_o gospel_n etc._n etc._n the_o leap_n be_v so_o great_a that_o cart-rope_n will_v not_o tie_v the_o conclusion_n to_o the_o premise_n that_o the_o argument_n be_v not_o good_a from_o civil_a government_n to_o ecclesiastical_a and_o again_o that_o the_o example_n be_v altogether_o unlike_a of_o temporal_a empire_n &_o spiritual_a ministry_n between_o these_o there_o be_v not_o neither_o aught_o neither_o can_v a_o proportion_n or_o comparison_n be_v right_o make_v and_o how_o then_o come_v it_o now_o to_o pass_v that_o the_o reason_n
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in_o the_o copy_n of_o that_o sentence_n 280._o sentence_n act._n syn._n nat._n dordr_n sess_n 138._o p._n 280._o there_o be_v divers_a act_n of_o their_o power_n to_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o several_a expression_n &_o form_n of_o speech_n use_v therein_o as_o for_o example_n this_o synod_n of_o dort_n do_v serious_o instant_o and_o according_a to_o the_o authority_n which_o it_o have_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n over_o all_o the_o member_n of_o their_o church_n in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n require_v exhort_v admonish_v &_o enjoin_v all_o &_o every_o one_o of_o the_o pastor_n in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o unite_a province_n doctor_n rectour_n master_n in_o the_o university_n &_o school_n etc._n etc._n the_o synod_n after_o invocation_n of_o the_o holy_a name_n of_o god_n be_v in_o conscience_n well_o assure_v of_o their_o authority_n from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n follow_v the_o step_n of_o ancient_n &_o late_a synod_n etc._n etc._n 281._o etc._n p._n 281._o do_v interdict_v the_o person_n cite_v unto_o this_o synod_n from_o all_o ecclesiastical_a charge_n and_o depose_v they_o from_o their_o office_n and_o also_o judge_v they_o unworthy_a of_o academical_a function_n until_o by_o earnest_a repentance_n etc._n etc._n for_o the_o rest_n who_o cognition_n be_v not_o come_v to_o this_o nationall_n synod_n it_o commit_v unto_o provincial_n synod_n class_n &_o presbytery_n according_a to_o the_o order_n receive_v that_o with_o all_o care_n they_o procure_v etc._n etc._n that_o they_o diligent_o take_v heed_n unto_o themselves_o that_o they_o admit_v not_o any_o man_n to_o the_o holy_a ministry_n which_o refuse_v to_o subscribe_v unto_o the_o doctrine_n declare_v in_o these_o synodical_a constitution_n and_o to_o teach_v the_o same_o that_o they_o also_o retain_v no_o man_n by_o who_o manifest_a dissension_n etc._n etc._n this_o judgement_n &_o sentence_n of_o the_o synod_n be_v afterward_o in_o most_o full_a &_o ample_a manner_n 282._o manner_n ibid._n p._n 282._o approve_v &_o confirm_v by_o the_o illustrious_a lord_n the_o state_n general_n of_o the_o unite_a province_n acknowledge_v also_o the_o business_n of_o this_o synod_n to_o be_v agreat_a &_o holy_a work_n such_o as_o heretofore_o the_o reform_a church_n never_o see_v etc._n etc._n beside_o this_o sentence_n pronounce_v against_o those_o twelve_o or_o thirteen_o of_o the_o remonstrant_n that_o by_o authority_n of_o the_o synod_n be_v 17._o be_v ibid._n p._n 16_o 17._o cite_v to_o appear_v before_o they_o there_o be_v also_o another_o special_a sentence_n 205._o sentence_n p._n 204_o 205._o of_o suspension_n from_o their_o function_n conclude_v &_o pronounce_v against_o everhardus_fw-la vosculius_n and_o johannes_n schotlerius_n minister_n at_o campen_n because_o of_o their_o contumacy_n in_o not_o appear_v before_o the_o synod_n be_v lawful_o cite_v thereunto_o moreover_o it_o be_v memorable_a that_o the_o member_n of_o this_o synod_n the_o deputy_n of_o several_a church_n do_v all_o &_o every_o one_o of_o they_o take_v a_o most_o solemn_a oath_n in_o testimony_n of_o the_o good_a conscience_n which_o they_o have_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o this_o authority_n the_o form_n of_o the_o oath_n be_v 61._o be_v act._n syn._n nat._n dordr_n sess_n 23._o p._n 61._o as_o follow_v i_o do_v promise_n before_o god_n who_o i_o believe_v and_o reverence_v as_o the_o present_a searcher_n of_o the_o reins_n and_o heart_n that_o in_o this_o whole_a synodall_n action_n wherein_o shall_v be_v undertake_v a_o examination_n judgement_n &_o decision_n both_o touch_v the_o five_o know_a article_n and_o the_o difficulty_n thence_o arise_v and_o also_o touch_v all_o other_o matter_n of_o doctrine_n i_o will_v not_o take_v any_o humane_a writing_n but_o only_o the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o the_o certain_a &_o undoubted_a rule_n of_o faith_n and_o that_o in_o this_o whole_a cause_n i_o shall_v propound_v nothing_o to_o myself_o but_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n the_o peace_n of_o his_o church_n and_o in_o special_a the_o conservation_n of_o the_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n so_o let_v my_o saviour_n jesus_n christ_n be_v merciful_a unto_o i_o who_o i_o most_o earnest_o beseech_v that_o he_o will_v continual_o assist_v i_o in_o this_o purpose_n with_o the_o grace_n of_o his_o spirit_n this_o oath_n be_v first_o take_v by_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o synod_n all_o the_o other_o professor_n pastor_n &_o elder_n of_o the_o netherlands_o depute_v unto_o the_o synod_n and_o then_o all_o the_o divine_n of_o other_o nation_n stand_v up_o in_o order_n do_v with_o a_o loud_a voice_n every_o one_o of_o they_o declare_v that_o they_o do_v holy_o promise_v and_o swear_v before_o god_n the_o same_o thing_n and_o testify_v that_o they_o come_v with_o such_o mind_n unto_o the_o synod_n have_v hitherto_o sit_v down_o therein_o and_o will_v hereafter_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n continue_v have_v now_o such_o a_o cloud_n of_o witness_n consent_v with_o i_o i_o have_v reason_n in_o this_o place_n again_o to_o put_v mr_n can_n in_o mind_n of_o his_o vain_a boast_v 83._o boast_v ch._n pl._n p._n 83._o touch_v a_o jury_n of_o more_o than_o 24._o man_n condemn_v i_o of_o error_n here_o may_v he_o see_v a_o jury_n of_o more_o than_o thrice_o 24_o swear_a man_n and_o of_o the_o most_o excellent_a servant_n of_o god_n in_o so_o many_o reform_a church_n and_o university_n the_o light_n of_o christendom_n the_o flower_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o select_a crown_n of_o learned_a man_n as_o they_o of_o geneva_n do_v 12._o do_v act._n syn._n nat._n dordr_n sess_n 3._o p._n 12._o stile_n they_o all_o testify_a both_o by_o word_n and_o practice_n against_o he_o and_o against_o the_o opinion_n of_o mr_n dau._n touch_v the_o jurisdiction_n of_o synod_n a_o supplement_n annex_v by_o the_o publisher_n for_o answer_v unto_o that_o which_o follow_v in_o mr_n cannes_n book_n thus_o far_o good_a reader_n the_o author_n have_v travel_v through_o those_o tedious_a way_n which_o mr_n c._n though_o with_o less_o trouble_n yet_o with_o more_o prejudice_n to_o his_o own_o cause_n have_v first_o open_v unto_o he_o the_o sum_n of_o all_o be_v that_o wade_v through_o those_o stream_n of_o argument_n and_o reason_n which_o mr_n c._n have_v let_v out_o upon_o he_o he_o have_v find_v such_o as_o be_v of_o any_o depth_n to_o run_v another_o way_n &_o the_o other_o too_o shallow_a to_o hinder_v the_o passage_n of_o truth_n in_o this_o controversy_n and_o march_v through_o those_o several_a rank_n &_o file_n of_o learned_a author_n which_o mr_n c._n have_v muster_v &_o bring_v into_o the_o field_n for_o his_o defence_n and_o assistance_n in_o this_o conflict_n he_o have_v find_v they_o all_o except_v those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v except_v to_o be_v friend_n instead_o of_o enemy_n testify_v plain_o in_o their_o own_o word_n &_o in_o the_o word_n of_o sundry_a other_o with_o they_o that_o against_o their_o will_n they_o be_v force_v to_o appear_v under_o his_o banner_n and_o therefore_o in_o the_o same_o order_n that_o he_o marshal_v they_o against_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n they_o now_o stand_v in_o array_n against_o the_o independency_n of_o church_n there_o remain_v yet_o one_o part_n of_o mr_n can._n opposition_n in_o this_o cause_n to_o be_v encounter_v wherein_o he_o pretend_v to_o disappoint_v and_o conquer_v such_o force_n as_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v use_v in_o defence_n of_o that_o classical_a and_o synodall_n government_n which_o he_o have_v hitherto_o oppugn_v to_o this_o end_n he_o 92._o he_o chur._n plea_n p._n 92._o undertake_v to_o answer_v certain_a reason_n or_o objection_n pick_v out_o of_o divers_a passage_n in_o the_o author_n &c_n author_n answ_n to_o w.b._n &c_n &c_n first_o book_n suppose_v by_o this_o mean_n to_o have_v full_o acquit_v himself_o in_o this_o dispute_n now_o though_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o these_o his_o answer_n for_o
show_v pag._n 156._o 157._o etc._n etc._n 164._o etc._n etc._n before_o iii_o if_o he_o will_v have_v speak_v to_o the_o purpose_n he_o shall_v have_v show_v that_o particular_a congregation_n stand_v under_o no_o other_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o be_v not_o thereby_o expose_v to_o manifold_a disorder_n confusion_n and_o dissipation_n or_o if_o he_o will_v have_v retort_v this_o argument_n upon_o the_o defendant_n he_o ought_v to_o have_v prove_v that_o classical_a and_o synodall_n government_n of_o its_o own_o nature_n bring_v with_o it_o manifold_a disorder_n confusion_n and_o dissipation_n of_o church_n but_o instead_o of_o this_o he_o mention_v only_o the_o offence_n which_o in_o many_o thing_n many_o time_n have_v be_v observe_v in_o &_o about_o the_o execution_n and_o behold_v what_o he_o say_v for_o proof_n hereof_o i._o c._n and_o this_o i_o be_o sure_a no_o good_a christian_n will_v deny_v i_o can_v give_v divers_a instance_n for_o it_o but_o it_o need_v not_o only_o it_o be_v not_o amiss_o to_o set_v down_o nazianzen_n proc._n nazianzen_n epist_n 42._o ad_fw-la proc._n word_n who_o be_v a_o elder_a or_o bishop_n i_o be_o mind_v say_v he_o to_o shun_v all_o assembly_n of_o bishop_n because_o i_o never_o see_v any_o good_a event_n in_o any_o council_n etc._n etc._n whither_o thing_n be_v better_o carry_v now_o than_o they_o be_v in_o his_o time_n i_o will_v not_o nor_o be_o able_a to_o judge_v answ._n i._n if_o he_o will_v not_o nor_o can_v judge_v whether_o the_o same_o abuse_n be_v now_o commit_v which_o nazianzen_n complain_v of_o it_o follow_v that_o he_o ought_v not_o to_o have_v the_o will_v nor_o ability_n to_o conclude_v that_o this_o government_n shall_v now_o be_v remoove_v as_o it_o seem_v he_o will_v infer_v from_o such_o a_o reason_n as_o be_v use_v by_o nazianzen_n for_o his_o dislike_n of_o the_o synod_n of_o his_o time_n ii_o this_o testimony_n of_o nazianzen_n have_v be_v sufficient_o answer_v 223._o answer_v p._n 222._o 223._o before_o out_o of_o d._n whitaker_n where_o it_o have_v be_v also_o show_v that_o it_o make_v as_o much_o against_o those_o assembly_n of_o bishop_n which_o mr_n c._n himself_n allow_v as_o against_o any_o other_o but_o to_o make_v it_o appear_v that_o this_o be_v no_o new_a objection_n &_o that_o we_o need_v not_o seek_v any_o further_a answer_n unto_o it_o lo_o hear_v what_o other_o have_v say_v touch_v the_o same_o testimony_n beza_n among_o other_o counsel_n to_o the_o emperor_n &_o state_n of_o germany_n for_o the_o settle_n of_o the_o peace_n of_o christian_a church_n do_v special_o give_v advice_n for_o the_o celebrate_n of_o a_o synod_n &_o see_v he_o do_v not_o only_o answer_v the_o foresay_a exception_n but_o withal_o notable_o declare_v the_o lawful_a ancient_a and_o profitable_a use_n of_o synodall_n authority_n i_o have_v here_o set_v down_o his_o word_n at_o large_a as_o worthy_a our_o observation_n for_o this_o purpose_n church_n 112._o church_n 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this_o benefit_n of_o combination_n with_o other_o church_n in_o classical_a government_n yet_o do_v we_o acknowledge_v that_o notwithstanding_o this_o want_n such_o a_o church_n may_v still_o subsist_v &_o be_v repute_v a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o so_o that_o we_o hold_v every_o church_n bind_v to_o seek_v this_o dependency_n &_o union_n with_o other_o church_n as_o god_n shall_v give_v opportunity_n &_o mean_n and_o can_v without_o sin_n neglect_v the_o same_o to_o this_o place_n belong_v the_o answer_n unto_o two_o of_o those_o question_n which_o mr_n can_v 33._o can_v church_n plea._n p._n 33._o propound_v upon_o another_o occasion_n i._o can._n whither_o it_o be_v jure_fw-la divino_fw-la that_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n of_o many_o church_n be_v necessary_o bind_v to_o determine_v by_o joint_a authority_n the_o case_n of_o many_o particular_a congregation_n or_o whither_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n arbitrary_a &_o leave_v unto_o every_o man_n liberty_n answ._n that_o the_o 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rom._n 12.5_o 1._o cor._n 12.25_o eph._n 4.16_o i._o can._n whither_o all_o such_o case_n and_o controversy_n as_o be_v decide_v by_o many_o minister_n combine_v into_o class_n &_o synod_n must_v so_o stand_v as_o that_o particular_a congregation_n may_v not_o if_o they_o think_v fit_a reject_v the_o same_o and_o practice_v otherwise_o then_o have_v be_v there_o determine_v by_o joint_a authority_n answ._n man_n be_v bind_v to_o stand_v unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n so_o far_o as_o their_o determination_n be_v find_v agreeable_a unto_o the_o word_n &_o no_o further_o act._n 4.19_o but_o if_o any_o particular_a church_n reject_v their_o sentence_n &_o determination_n be_v consonant_n unto_o the_o scripture_n than_o that_o church_n commit_v double_a sin_n once_o for_o transgress_v against_o the_o write_a word_n of_o god_n and_o again_o for_o despise_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o contemn_v the_o joint_a authority_n of_o such_o as_o be_v meet_v together_o in_o his_o name_n particular_a church_n be_v so_o to_o respect_n and_o stand_v unto_o the_o determination_n of_o classical_a or_o provincial_n synod_n even_o as_o particular_a man_n and_o member_n of_o a_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o stand_v unto_o the_o sentence_n of_o that_o church_n where_o they_o be_v member_n viz._n according_a to_o the_o truth_n and_o will_n of_o god_n and_o not_o otherwise_o chap._n ii_o the_o first_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o word_n of_o the_o law_n deut._n 17_o 8-12_a the_o first_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n deliver_v by_o moses_n of_o old_a unto_o israel_n where_o the_o people_n of_o god_n in_o particular_a congregation_n be_v teach_v to_o bring_v their_o hard_a &_o difficult_a controversy_n as_o well_o ecclesiastical_a as_o civil_a unto_o a_o superior_a judicatory_a unto_o the_o priest_n the_o levite_n or_o unto_o the_o judge_n in_o those_o day_n according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o cause_n for_o the_o decide_n thereof_o deut._n 17_o 8-12_a this_o order_n be_v also_o reestablish_v in_o the_o day_n of_o jehoshaphat_n who_o place_v and_o settle_v in_o jerusalem_n a_o ecclesiastical_a synedrion_fw-mi or_o senate_n for_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o lord_n over_o which_o amariah_n be_v precedent_n &_o these_o be_v to_o receive_v the_o complaint_n and_o to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o their_o brethren_n that_o come_v up_o unto_o they_o from_o other_o city_n &_o place_n of_o their_o habitation_n even_o as_o there_o be_v also_o a_o civil_a synedrion_fw-mi for_o the_o affair_n of_o the_o king_n over_o which_o zebadiah_n be_v precedent_n 2._o chron._n 19_o 8-11_a this_o form_n of_o government_n be_v commend_v unto_o we_o of_o david_n as_o the_o praise_n of_o jerusalem_n when_o he_o point_v out_o distinct_o these_o two_o kind_n of_o senate_n 122._o senate_n see_v jun._n annot._n on_o psal_n 122._o ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a throne_n of_o judgement_n and_o throne_n of_o the_o house_n of_o david_n whereunto_o the_o tribe_n even_o the_o tribe_n of_o the_o lord_n do_v go_v up_o psa_fw-la 122.4.5_o as_o paul_n once_o rejoice_v in_o the_o spirit_n to_o see_v the_o order_n of_o the_o colossian_n col._n 2.5_o so_o david_n consider_v the_o beauty_n of_o this_o order_n declare_v the_o same_o to_o be_v one_o special_a cause_n of_o his_o spiritual_a gladness_n &_o joy_n in_o the_o lord_n witness_v in_o that_o psalm_n hereby_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o assembly_n &_o synagogue_n of_o israel_n be_v not_o independent_a but_o stand_v under_o a_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o they_o have_v no_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v not_o limit_v unto_o particular_a congregation_n now_o let_v we_o see_v what_o our_o opposite_n say_v to_o this_o i._o can._n 44._o can._n church_n plea._n p._n 43_o 44._o he_o seek_v to_o strengthen_v the_o authority_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n by_o the_o jewish_a polity_n &_o government_n now_o the_o papist_n to_o establish_v the_o sea_n of_o rome_n use_v the_o same_o argument_n and_o the_o truth_n be_v if_z mr_n paget_n intend_v to_o dispute_v this_o way_n they_o will_v carry_v it_o quite_o away_o from_o he_o but_o i_o think_v he_o will_v hereafter_o be_v more_o considerate_a and_o speak_v no_o further_o of_o that_o manner_n and_o form_n of_o church_n government_n see_v he_o know_v the_o most_o learned_a on_o our_o side_n do_v condemn_v the_o papist_n for_o it_o viz._n 4._o viz._n animadv_n contr_n 1._o l._n 3._o c._n 4._o junius_n 2._o junius_n inst_z l._n 4._o c_o 6._o sect_n 2._o calvin_n 614._o calvin_n ag._n whitg_n l._n 2._o p._n 614._o cartwright_n 1._o cartwright_n contr._n 4._o qu._n 1._o d._n whitaker_n &_o other_o answ._n mr_n ainsworth_n before_o he_o speak_v much_o in_o like_a manner_n to_o this_o purpose_n he_o say_v 15.16_o say_v animadv_n p._n 15.16_o it_o be_v a_o main_a pillar_n of_o popery_n to_o proportion_v the_o church_n now_o in_o the_o outward_a polity_n to_o israel_n the_o rhemist_n will_v have_v 23.2_o have_v rhem._n annot_fw-mi on_o mat._n 23.2_o the_o see_v of_o rome_n in_o the_o new_a law_n to_o be_v answerable_a to_o the_o chair_n of_o moses_n cardinal_n bellarmine_n 1_o bellarmine_n de_fw-fr rom._n pout_v l._n 4._o c._n 1_o make_v his_o first_o argument_n for_o the_o pope_n judge_v of_o controversy_n from_o the_o priest_n &_o judge_n that_o be_v appoint_v in_o the_o law_n deut._n 17._o etc._n etc._n and_o there_o also_o he_o allege_v three_o of_o the_o same_o witness_n against_o argue_v from_o the_o jewish_a policy_n which_o here_o mr_n can_n cit_v again_o mr_n davenp_n plead_v to_o the_o same_o effect_n say_v 254._o say_v apol._n repl_n p._n 254._o the_o text_n which_o bellarmine_n allege_v for_o the_o power_n of_o council_n in_o make_v law_n be_v the_o same_o which_o the_o answerer_n sometime_o harp_v upon_o in_o this_o case_n but_o junius_n clear_o show_v that_o they_o
say_v if_o thy_o brother_n sin_n against_o thou_o etc._n etc._n so_o have_v moses_n do_v before_o thou_o shall_v not_o hate_v thy_o brother_n in_o thy_o heart_n etc._n etc._n as_o christ_n require_v not_o only_o a_o simple_a tell_n of_o the_o fault_n but_o a_o 〈◊〉_d a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d convince_a of_o the_o offendor_n so_o have_v moses_n teach_v israel_n before_o tochiach_n before_o hocheach_v tochiach_n thorough_o to_o reprove_v or_o convince_v and_o not_o to_o suffer_v sin_n upon_o a_o brother_n mat._n 18.15_o with_o leu._n 19.17_o as_o christ_n in_o the_o same_o place_n to_o encourage_v unto_o this_o duty_n propound_v the_o win_n of_o a_o brother_n so_o the_o lord_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n show_v how_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o righteous_a be_v a_o tree_n of_o life_n and_o how_o the_o wise_a do_v win_v soul_n prov._n 11.30_o thus_o far_o it_o be_v no_o new_a rule_n the_o second_o degree_n of_o admonition_n be_v with_o witness_n if_o he_o hear_v thou_o not_o take_v with_o thou_o one_o or_o two_o more_o that_o in_o the_o mouth_n of_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n every_o word_n may_v be_v establish_v mat._n 18.16_o this_o be_v express_o take_v from_o &_o ground_v upon_o the_o policy_n of_o moses_n who_o prescribe_v the_o same_o order_n for_o israel_n deut._n 19.15_o hitherto_o therefore_o it_o be_v the_o same_o rule_n the_o three_o degree_n of_o admonition_n be_v by_o the_o church_n be_v complain_v unto_o and_o tell_v of_o the_o offence_n mat._n 18.17_o this_o admonition_n be_v also_o observe_v in_o israel_n when_o as_o the_o church_n or_o those_o ecclesiastical_a governor_n which_o represent_v the_o church_n either_o in_o synagogue_n or_o as_o occasion_n require_v in_o superior_a judicatories_n do_v teach_v inform_v and_o admonish_v offender_n before_o they_o give_v sentence_n of_o their_o obstinacy_n and_o presumption_n deut._n 17.9_o 10_o 11._o 2._o chron._n 19.10_o herein_o likewise_o the_o same_o rule_n be_v prescribe_v and_o the_o word_n thus_o due_o speak_v in_o his_o place_n or_o ophnan_o or_o gnal_n ophnan_o on_o the_o wheel_n of_o order_n in_o divers_a degree_n of_o admonition_n that_o it_o may_v run_v and_o prevail_v be_v like_o apple_n of_o gold_n in_o picture_n of_o silver_n prov._n 25.11_o the_o censure_n which_o follow_v upon_o the_o contempt_n of_o these_o admonition_n be_v excommunication_n or_o rejection_n of_o the_o obstinate_a offender_n mat._n 18.17_o this_o be_v no_o new_a kind_n of_o censure_n see_v excommunication_n be_v also_o a_o ancient_a ordinance_n a_o part_n of_o that_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n under_o the_o old_a testament_n yea_o describe_v by_o the_o same_o phrase_n of_o â—â—tting_v off_o exod._n 12.19_o num._n 15.30_o 31._o which_o be_v also_o use_v in_o the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n gal._n 5.12_o as_o in_o israel_n they_o have_v a_o censure_n of_o separate_n from_o the_o congregation_n ezra_n 10.8_o so_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n in_o a_o equivalent_a phrase_n the_o like_a judgement_n be_v signify_v by_o denounce_v some_o to_o be_v accurse_v anathema_n or_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n of_o god_n gal._n 1.9_o and_o even_o in_o this_o text_n mat._n 18.17_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n be_v describe_v by_o declare_v man_n to_o be_v as_o heathen_n &_o publican_n there_o be_v not_o only_o a_o manifest_a allusion_n and_o respect_n unto_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o jew_n but_o a_o commandment_n of_o the_o same_o order_n for_o avoid_v the_o obstinate_a by_o deny_v civil_a communion_n of_o eat_v &_o drink_v with_o excommunicate_n as_o they_o do_v unto_o the_o publican_n mat._n 9.11_o luk._n 15.2_o and_o both_o religious_a &_o civil_a communion_n both_o in_o public_a &_o private_a as_o they_o do_v unto_o the_o heathen_a act._n 11.2_o 3._o &_o 21.28_o 29._o neither_o can_v this_o rule_n be_v well_o understand_v without_o knowledge_n of_o the_o present_a practice_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o this_o behalf_n the_o confirmation_n of_o this_o censure_n be_v describe_v in_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n by_o a_o threefold_a testimony_n and_o promise_n 1._o that_o this_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n give_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v ratify_v in_o heaven_n either_o for_o bind_v or_o lose_v mat._n 18.18_o and_o so_o moses_n set_v life_n and_o death_n blessing_n and_o curse_v the_o judgement_n of_o god_n before_o israel_n call_v heaven_n &_o earth_n to_o record_v for_o confirmation_n to_o bind_v they_o to_o reverence_v those_o ordinance_n of_o god_n deut._n 30.19_o &_o 4.26_o 2._o as_o solomon_n under_o the_o law_n at_o the_o build_n of_o the_o temple_n do_v by_o his_o prayer_n confirm_v israel_n in_o hope_n of_o have_v their_o prayer_n to_o ascend_v from_o earth_n to_o heaven_n 1._o king_n 8.30_o 31_o 32._o so_o christ_n here_o promise_v that_o the_o prayer_n of_o those_o which_o agree_v touch_v any_o thing_n on_o earth_n shall_v be_v grant_v in_o heaven_n vers_fw-la 19_o 3._o as_o josaphat_n for_o the_o establishment_n of_o the_o judaical_a policy_n encourage_v the_o judge_n with_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n presence_n &_o assistance_n that_o the_o lord_n will_v be_v with_o they_o in_o the_o matter_n of_o judgement_n that_o the_o lord_n will_v be_v with_o the_o good_a 2._o chron._n 19.6_o 11._o so_o here_o christ_n to_o encourage_v his_o servant_n in_o the_o observation_n of_o this_o order_n promise_v his_o presence_n to_o be_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o two_o or_o three_o gather_v together_o in_o his_o name_n vers_fw-la 20._o thus_o it_o appear_v from_o the_o enumeration_n of_o all_o the_o several_a part_n of_o this_o rule_n compare_v with_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n that_o this_o be_v no_o new_a rule_n though_o there_o be_v many_o other_o ceremonial_a and_o temporary_a ordinance_n in_o the_o law_n for_o the_o purge_n of_o sin_n and_o uncleanness_n yet_o so_o far_o as_o concern_v this_o rule_n mat._n 18._o there_o be_v no_o new_a order_n prescribe_v herein_o here_o be_v nothing_o specify_v which_o be_v not_o teach_v before_o even_o those_o witness_n before_o allege_a by_o mr_n can_n and_o before_o he_o by_o mr_n ainsw_n do_v testify_v the_o same_o they_o and_o other_o the_o most_o excellent_a servant_n of_o god_n the_o star_n of_o the_o church_n subscribe_v unto_o this_o truth_n and_o bear_v witness_n with_o we_o unto_o this_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n and_o argue_v divers_a way_n for_o the_o authority_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n from_o this_o place_n mat._n 18._o and_o special_o in_o this_o respect_n that_o it_o be_v no_o new_a rule_n calvine_n speak_v of_o this_o rule_n and_o of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n prescribe_v therein_o say_v plain_o 4._o plain_o instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 11._o §_o 2._o &_o 4._o christus_fw-la nihil_fw-la hîc_fw-la novum_fw-la instituit_fw-la etc._n etc._n christ_n here_o institute_v no_o new_a thing_n but_o follow_v the_o custom_n always_o observe_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o his_o own_o nation_n whereby_o he_o signify_v that_o the_o church_n can_v not_o want_v the_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n which_o have_v be_v from_o the_o beginning_n etc._n etc._n and_o this_o he_o also_o apply_v unto_o the_o jurisdiction_n exercise_v in_o synod_n when_o he_o write_v 2._o write_v ibid._n c._n 9_o §_o 2._o if_o it_o be_v demand_v what_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n be_v from_o the_o scripture_n there_o be_v no_o clear_a promise_n extant_a then_o in_o this_o sentence_n of_o christ_n where_o two_o or_o three_o be_v gather_v together_o in_o my_o name_n there_o be_o i_o in_o the_o midst_n of_o they_o mat._n 18.20_o again_o in_o his_o exposition_n of_o those_o word_n tell_v the_o church_n he_o say_v 18.17_o say_v harm_n evang._n in_o mat._n 18.17_o the_o quaestion_n be_v what_o he_o mean_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n for_o paul_n command_v that_o the_o incestuous_a corinthian_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v not_o by_o any_o choice_n number_n but_o by_o the_o whole_a company_n of_o the_o godly_a 1._o cor._n 5.5_o 6._o and_o therefore_o it_o may_v seem_v probable_a that_o the_o judgement_n be_v here_o refer_v unto_o all_o the_o people_n but_o because_o there_o be_v then_o no_o church_n which_o have_v give_v the_o name_n unto_o christ_n nor_o such_o a_o manner_n appoint_v but_o that_o the_o lord_n speak_v as_o of_o a_o usual_a and_o receive_a custom_n there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o he_o allude_v unto_o the_o order_n of_o the_o old_a church_n even_o as_o in_o other_o place_n also_o he_o apply_v his_o speech_n unto_o the_o know_a custom_n etc._n etc._n so_o therefore_o he_o now_o have_v respect_n unto_o the_o form_n of_o discipline_n which_o be_v receive_v among_o the_o jew_n because_o it_o will_v have_v be_v absurd_a to_o propound_v the_o judgement_n of_o a_o church_n which_o yet_o be_v not_o moreover_o see_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n among_o the_o jew_n be_v now_o in_o the_o
same_o be_v to_o be_v refer_v unto_o such_o judge_n who_o as_o be_v before_o note_v may_v either_o 244._o either_o s._n theol_n l._n 7._o p._n 243_o 244._o confirm_v or_o make_v void_a the_o election_n a_o plain_a acknowledgement_n of_o a_o lawful_a power_n out_o of_o a_o particular_a church_n to_o judge_v the_o cause_n thereof_o iv_o he_o omit_v that_o which_o mr_n f._n write_v in_o the_o description_n 246._o description_n ibid._n p._n 245_o 246._o both_o of_o the_o elder_n office_n in_o general_a and_o of_o the_o rule_v elder_n in_o particular_a where_o the_o warrant_n and_o authority_n of_o their_o office_n be_v derive_v from_o the_o elder_n in_o israel_n and_o from_o the_o government_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n as_o appear_v in_o those_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n which_o he_o allege_v for_o proof_n thereof_o as_o namely_o these_o beside_z other_z leu._n 4.13_o 14_o 15.2_o kin._n 6.32_o jer._n 19.1_o ezek._n 8.1_o neh._n 8.5.8.10_o act._n 4.5_o &_o 6.12_o &_o 5.21_o now_o see_v he_o derive_v their_o office_n from_o that_o form_n of_o government_n which_o be_v confess_v not_o to_o have_v be_v a_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n this_o be_v a_o evidence_n that_o he_o also_o do_v not_o hold_v jurisdiction_n to_o be_v limit_v unto_o a_o particular_a church_n v._o he_o omit_v that_o which_o mr_n f._n write_v in_o distinguish_v the_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n of_o many_o church_n 281._o church_n ibid._n p._n 281._o into_o a_o synod_n or_o a_o general_n council_n and_o not_o to_o speak_v of_o other_o thing_n he_o omit_v that_o description_n of_o a_o general_n or_o universal_a council_n viz._n that_o it_o be_v a_o presbytery_n consist_v of_o the_o deputy_n of_o many_o synod_n to_o determine_v and_o compound_v those_o thing_n that_o may_v be_v profitable_a for_o the_o whole_a church_n or_o for_o the_o great_a part_n thereof_o the_o word_n which_o he_o use_v to_o express_v the_o authority_n exercise_v therein_o when_o he_o say_v ad_fw-la ea_fw-la statuenda_fw-la t.i._n to_o determine_v to_o make_v a_o statute_n or_o decree_n import_v more_o than_o a_o bare_a admonition_n or_o counsel_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v manifest_a from_o hence_o that_o mr_n f._n do_v not_o allow_v of_o this_o new_a discipline_n which_o deny_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n ii_o his_o unfaithful_a translation_n of_o mr_n fenner_n be_v also_o to_o be_v observe_v in_o divers_a point_n i._o when_o speak_v of_o the_o eldership_n of_o one_o particular_a church_n 238._o church_n apol._n reply_n p._n 238._o he_o tell_v how_o mr_n f._n say_v it_o be_v proper_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o word_n of_o mr_n f._n be_v that_o it_o be_v 279._o be_v s._n theol_n l._n 7._o p._n 279._o proprio_fw-la nomine_fw-la sie_n dictum_fw-la so_o call_v with_o the_o proper_a name_n his_o meaning_n be_v that_o in_o common_a use_n of_o speech_n it_o have_v the_o proper_a name_n give_v unto_o it_o even_o as_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v oft_o time_n that_o a_o part_n be_v call_v by_o the_o proper_a name_n of_o the_o whole_a and_o one_o species_n or_o one_o sort_n receive_v the_o proper_a name_n of_o the_o whole_a kind_n as_o when_o in_o speak_v common_o of_o the_o minister_n and_o elder_n of_o a_o church_n the_o roll_a elder_n be_v so_o call_v with_o a_o proper_a name_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o whole_a kind_n see_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n be_v elder_n as_o well_o as_o they_o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o so_o when_o the_o roll_a elder_n be_v call_v with_o the_o proper_a name_n of_o governor_n 1._o cor._n 12.28_o though_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n be_v governor_n also_o as_o well_o as_o they_o and_o unless_o we_o thus_o understand_v mr_n fen._n there_o shall_v be_v no_o truth_n in_o his_o word_n for_o as_o he_o himself_o say_v 245._o say_v ibid._n p._n 245._o there_o be_v a_o synecdoche_n in_o the_o name_n of_o elder_n when_o it_o be_v give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a governor_n and_o therefore_o there_o must_v be_v a_o double_a improper_a or_o figurative_a speech_n a_o double_a synecdoche_n when_o the_o assembly_n of_o some_o officer_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v call_v with_o the_o proper_a name_n of_o the_o eldership_n whereas_o but_o some_o of_o they_o be_v elderly_a or_o age_a man_n and_o whereas_o the_o assembly_n of_o such_o man_n in_o a_o synod_n be_v a_o eldership_n as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o ii_o it_o be_v a_o notable_a falsification_n of_o mr_n fenner_n testimony_n when_o as_o he_o distinguish_v the_o ecclesiastical_a eldership_n into_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o into_o the_o eldership_n of_o many_o church_n and_o give_v beforehand_o in_o the_o first_o place_n a_o general_a definition_n of_o the_o eldership_n common_a to_o both_o those_o kind_n mr_n dau._n come_v and_o restrain_v that_o general_a definition_n to_o one_o kind_n and_o bring_v in_o mr_n f._n speak_v on_o this_o manner_n the_o eldership_n of_o the_o first_o sort_n he_o say_v be_v a_o compound_n office_n wherein_o all_o the_o elder_n do_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n administer_v all_o the_o business_n etc._n etc._n but_o this_o mr_n f._n have_v not_o say_v i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o look_v on_o the_o 276._o the_o s._n theol_n l._n 7._o p._n 276._o place_n as_o also_o on_o that_o which_o follow_v in_o his_o 279._o his_o pag._n 279._o transition_n from_o the_o general_a unto_o the_o species_n and_o several_a sort_n of_o the_o eldership_n and_o there_o to_o behold_v how_o gross_o mr_n d._n corrupt_v the_o word_n of_o mr_n f._n and_o abuse_v the_o reader_n and_o that_o in_o a_o point_n of_o main_a consequence_n touch_v our_o question_n for_o while_n mr_n f._n give_v the_o same_o general_a definition_n to_o the_o eldership_n of_o many_o church_n viz._n to_o class_n and_o synod_n which_o he_o give_v unto_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n thereby_o the_o same_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n which_o he_o give_v herein_o unto_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v also_o give_v by_o he_o unto_o a_o synod_n the_o eldership_n of_o many_o church_n and_o then_o be_v not_o synod_n for_o counsel_n only_o or_o admonition_n but_o they_o be_v to_o exercise_v a_o jurisdiction_n and_o power_n as_o well_o as_o particular_a church_n iii_o another_o instance_n of_o his_o unfaithful_a translation_n be_v to_o be_v observe_v from_o those_o word_n of_o mr_n f._n 278._o f._n ibid._n p._n 278._o postea_fw-la autem_fw-la auditis_fw-la &_o assentientibus_fw-la decernenda_fw-la &_o pro_fw-la decretis_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la proponenda_fw-la sunt_fw-la which_o he_o translate_v thus_o 239._o thus_o apol._n reply_n p._n 239._o and_o afterward_o the_o opinion_n and_o assent_n of_o all_o be_v declare_v matter_n be_v to_o be_v conclude_v those_o last_o word_n shall_v have_v be_v translate_v thus_o matter_n be_v to_o be_v decree_v and_o to_o be_v propound_v unto_o the_o church_n for_o decree_n and_o be_v thus_o translate_v they_o import_v a_o act_n of_o authority_n and_o a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o make_v decree_n which_o be_v more_o than_o counsel_n or_o admonition_n especial_o when_o those_o matter_n so_o decree_v be_v propound_v unto_o the_o church_n for_o decree_n but_o the_o word_n of_o conclude_v which_o mr_n d._n use_v be_v ambiguous_a and_o be_v apply_v sometime_o to_o the_o reason_n of_o man_n either_o in_o private_a or_o public_a where_o there_o be_v no_o authority_n to_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n or_o to_o make_v decree_n for_o the_o church_n mr_n can_n himself_o though_o he_o condemn_v the_o class_n and_o synod_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n yet_o do_v he_o allow_v minister_n and_o brethren_n of_o divers_a church_n to_o come_v together_o 95._o together_o church_n plea_n p._n 95._o to_o confer_v of_o thing_n yea_o and_o to_o conclude_v if_o they_o can_v what_o they_o judge_v meet_v etc._n etc._n this_o use_n of_o the_o word_n conclude_v serve_v to_o elude_v and_o frustrate_v this_o pregnant_a testimony_n of_o their_o power_n iv_o another_o mistranslation_n be_v when_o in_o the_o same_o page_n those_o word_n of_o mr_n f._n leges_fw-la maximi_fw-la momenti_fw-la constituendae_fw-la be_v thus_o translate_v by_o he_o order_n also_o of_o the_o great_a moment_n to_o be_v make_v this_o i_o do_v therefore_o note_v the_o rather_o because_o mr_n d._n keep_v so_o great_a a_o quoil_n about_o the_o strict_a difference_n betwixt_o order_n and_o law_n and_o say_v 258._o say_v apol._n rep_v p._n 257._o 258._o that_o order_n &_o law_n be_v ill_o confound_v by_o i_o and_o be_v large_a in_o declare_v his_o mind_n therein_o his_o friend_n also_o that_o make_v the_o alphabetical_a table_n for_o he_o and_o prefix_v it_o before_o his_o book_n note_v this_o as_o a_o remarkable_a matter_n therein_o l._n therein_o letter_n l._n law_n and_o order_n differ_v now_o if_o these_o thing_n be_v so_o then_o have_v he_o do_v very_o ill_o
in_o confound_a law_n and_o order_n by_o translate_n the_o word_n leges_fw-la order_n when_o he_o shall_v have_v translate_v it_o law_n according_a to_o the_o right_n and_o proper_a signification_n thereof_o if_o he_o have_v dislike_v mr_n f._n for_o use_v the_o word_n leges_fw-la or_o law_n and_o will_v correct_v it_o by_o put_v in_o the_o word_n order_n this_o be_v more_o than_o a_o exact_a and_o faithful_a translator_n may_v do_v he_o shall_v rather_o have_v translate_v the_o word_n true_o according_a to_o the_o right_a signification_n and_o then_o have_v give_v warning_n to_o the_o reader_n touch_v the_o fault_n of_o mr_n fenner_n in_o the_o ill_a confound_v of_o law_n and_o order_n and_o put_v one_o for_o the_o other_o after_o these_o unfaithful_a omission_n and_o mistranslation_n mr_n dau._n have_v not_o be_v afraid_a to_o say_v confident_o of_o himself_o thus_o have_v i_o faithful_o translate_v the_o word_n of_o this_o eminent_a light_n in_o his_o time_n mr_n dudley_n fenner_n who_o be_v join_v with_o mr_n cartwright_n etc._n etc._n to_o his_o commendation_n of_o he_o i_o do_v willing_o assent_v he_o be_v indeed_o a_o eminent_a light_n and_o why_o then_o have_v mr_n dau._n go_v about_o to_o obscure_v his_o light_n by_o deprave_v his_o testimony_n and_o labour_v to_o put_v this_o bright-burning_a candle_n under_o a_o bushel_n that_o man_n shall_v not_o see_v his_o light_n whether_o he_o make_v strong_o for_o he_o or_o against_o i_o let_v other_o judge_n iii_o moreover_o after_o these_o omission_n and_o mistranslation_n come_v we_o to_o consider_v his_o miscollection_n from_o he_o which_o without_o any_o just_a deduction_n or_o inference_n upon_o the_o lame_a and_o imperfect_a recital_n of_o his_o word_n he_o thus_o propound_v ibiden_v propound_v ibiden_v the_o reader_n may_v see_v how_o he_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o particular_a church_n etc._n etc._n how_o untrue_a this_o be_v it_o may_v appear_v i._o by_o mr_n f._n his_o allege_v those_o 276._o those_o s._n theo._n l._n 7._o p._n 276._o scripture_n deut._n 17.9_o with_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o 11._o matt._n 18.18_o 1._o tim._n 4.14_o to_o show_v what_o authority_n there_o be_v in_o a_o classis_fw-la or_o synod_n comprehend_v by_o he_o under_o that_o general_a definition_n of_o a_o presbytery_n as_o well_o as_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n thereby_o he_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v a_o power_n of_o judgement_n censure_n and_o jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n because_o those_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n speak_v of_o such_o jurisdiction_n and_o judgement_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n or_o ordination_n etc._n etc._n ii_o though_o mr_n f._n speak_v of_o excommunication_n and_o absolution_n from_o it_o say_v that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o assembly_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n which_o last_o word_n mr_n d._n for_o special_a observation_n cause_v to_o be_v print_v in_o great_a capital_a letter_n yet_o this_o do_v not_o prove_v that_o he_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o particular_a church_n see_v in_o the_o same_o 277_o same_o pa._n 277_o place_n speak_v of_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n administer_v by_o the_o synod_n or_o presbytery_n in_o decide_v of_o doubt_n he_o say_v also_o etsi_fw-la authoritas_fw-la communis_fw-la sit_fw-la ministris_fw-la tamen_fw-la &_o sententiam_fw-la dicendi_fw-la &_o eam_fw-la exponendi_fw-la maxima_fw-la facienda_fw-la potestas_fw-la that_o be_v though_o the_o authority_n be_v common_a yet_o the_o great_a power_n of_o give_v sentence_n and_o declare_v it_o be_v to_o be_v yield_v unto_o the_o minister_n therefore_o do_v he_o not_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n iii_o mr_n f._n a_o little_a after_o again_o speak_v of_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n and_o censure_n and_o still_o of_o administer_a they_o by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n or_o presbytery_n which_o contain_v the_o synod_n as_o well_o as_o a_o particular_a eldership_n he_o say_v of_o they_o ibiden_v they_o ibiden_v in_o quibus_fw-la per_fw-la omnes_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la summa_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la potestas_fw-la presbyterio_n demandata_fw-la est_fw-la that_o be_v in_o which_o throughout_o all_o church_n the_o high_a or_o chief_a ecclesiastical_a authority_n be_v commit_v to_o the_o presbytery_n and_o hereby_o also_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o do_v not_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n but_o these_o passage_n mr_n d._n omit_v when_o he_o translate_v other_o part_n of_o the_o same_o period_n he_o think_v it_o not_o to_o be_v for_o his_o advantage_n to_o have_v his_o reader_n take_v knowledge_n of_o they_o iv_o whereas_o mr_n f._n require_v that_o in_o matter_n of_o great_a moment_n after_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o fore-consultation_n of_o the_o presbytery_n comprehend_v both_o classis_fw-la and_o particular_a eldership_n their_o counsel_n be_v tell_v unto_o the_o church_n that_o thing_n ordinary_o be_v thus_o perform_v in_o these_o reform_a church_n viz._n after_o that_o in_o the_o classical_a assembly_n of_o minister_n and_o elder_n it_o have_v be_v find_v just_a and_o requisite_a that_o any_o person_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v or_o any_o minister_n call_v these_o censure_n and_o election_n be_v then_o first_o solemn_o propound_v unto_o the_o particular_a church_n who_o these_o thing_n special_o concern_v and_o so_o accomplish_v with_o their_o consent_n and_o not_o otherwise_o if_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o church_n dissent_n and_o allow_v not_o the_o excommunication_n or_o election_n then_o for_o the_o avoid_n of_o strife_n the_o matter_n be_v again_o refer_v ad_fw-la majorem_fw-la senatum_fw-la unto_o a_o great_a ecclesiastical_a senate_n classis_fw-la or_o synod_n to_o judge_v thereof_o and_o to_o compose_v the_o dissension_n v._o mr_n f._n in_o the_o same_o chapter_n 279._o chapter_n pag._n 278_o 279._o show_v from_o the_o scripture_n that_o in_o these_o presbyterial_a assembly_n there_o ought_v to_o be_v a_o mutual_a office_n perform_v in_o the_o same_o in_o special_a manner_n towards_o one_o another_o not_o only_o for_o counsel_n but_o also_o for_o the_o censure_n of_o such_o as_o be_v member_n of_o those_o assembly_n and_o this_o be_v also_o agreeable_a to_o the_o order_n prescribe_v both_o in_o the_o 43._o the_o kercken-ordeninge_a art_n 43._o nationall_n synod_n at_o dort_n and_o in_o divers_a other_o for_o the_o censure_n of_o such_o fault_n as_o be_v commit_v in_o those_o meeting_n or_o by_o contempt_n of_o the_o admonition_n of_o inferior_a assembly_n hereby_o also_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o allow_v a_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n and_o class_n and_o do_v not_o limit_v all_o jurisdiction_n unto_o a_o particular_a church_n vi_o after_o mr_n f._n have_v speak_v in_o general_a both_o of_o the_o presbytery_n of_o one_o and_o of_o many_o church_n joint_o together_o than_o he_o come_v to_o speak_v of_o each_o of_o they_o several_o and_o there_o again_o speak_v of_o the_o presbytery_n of_o many_o church_n that_o be_v of_o class_n and_o synod_n he_o say_v 280._o say_v s._n theol._n l._n 7._o p._n 280._o hic_fw-la autem_fw-la leges_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la condendae_fw-la sunt_fw-la here_o be_v ecclesiastical_a law_n to_o be_v make_v this_o be_v a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n more_o than_o of_o admonition_n or_o counsel_n this_o mr_n d._n pass_v over_o also_o it_o be_v no_o policy_n for_o he_o to_o draw_v collection_n from_o such_o testimony_n vii_o that_o one_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n which_o mr_n f._n oft_o 281._o oft_o ibid._n p._n 280_o 281._o allege_v 2._o cor._n 8.19_o 23._o not_o to_o speak_v of_o other_o allege_v with_o it_o be_v a_o evidence_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n it_o be_v there_o specify_v that_o the_o brother_n who_o be_v choose_v to_o be_v a_o messenger_n of_o the_o church_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d elect_v by_o saffrage_n now_o this_o election_n be_v a_o act_n of_o authority_n exercise_v by_o sundry_a church_n in_o one_o business_n touch_v one_o person_n and_o hence_o it_o appear_v that_o a_o combination_n of_o church_n may_v exercise_v jurisdiction_n together_o touch_v such_o as_o be_v no_o peculiar_a member_n of_o one_o particular_a church_n and_o if_o such_o election_n may_v be_v make_v by_o many_o church_n then_o may_v censure_n be_v decree_v by_o many_o church_n together_o as_o occasion_n require_v last_o mr_n f._n have_v speak_v of_o the_o first_o part_n of_o ecclesiastical_a polity_n touch_v such_o as_o administer_v the_o same_o both_o by_o a_o simple_a and_o compound_a office_n in_o the_o presbytery_n both_o of_o one_o or_o more_o church_n in_o synod_n or_o general_n council_n he_o come_v at_o last_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o saint_n other_o member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v not_o promote_v unto_o any_o ecclesiastical_a office_n and_o 282._o and_o
his_o affirmation_n be_v 77._o be_v poli._n eccl_n l._n 3._o c._n 12._o p._n 77._o that_o the_o superiorit_n of_o jurisdiction_n be_v retain_v in_o every_o church_n so_o that_o neither_o the_o pastor_n in_o the_o prime_a church_n nor_o the_o president_n in_o the_o combine_a church_n nor_o yet_o any_o bishop_n be_v above_o the_o church_n but_o under_o the_o power_n of_o every_o church_n this_o distinction_n of_o the_o church_n be_v more_o plain_o declare_v by_o he_o afterward_o where_o he_o say_v 117._o say_v ibid._n c._n 13._o p._n 117._o est_fw-la itaque_fw-la visibilis_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la duplex_fw-la prima_fw-la et_fw-la orta_fw-la prima_fw-la est_fw-la collectio_fw-la singulorum_fw-la fidelium_fw-la in_o unam_fw-la congregationem_fw-la et_fw-la generali_fw-la nomine_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dicitur_fw-la orta_fw-la est_fw-la collectio_fw-la &_o combinatio_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la primarum_fw-la plurium_fw-la in_o unum_fw-la coetum_fw-la &_o appellatur_fw-la synodus_fw-la that_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n be_v of_o two_o sort_n the_o prime_n and_o the_o combine_a church_n the_o prime_a church_n be_v a_o collection_n of_o several_a faithful_a person_n into_o one_o congregation_n and_o be_v call_v by_o a_o general_a name_n the_o church_n the_o combine_a church_n be_v a_o collection_n of_o more_o prime_a church_n into_o one_o company_n &_o be_v call_v a_o synod_n now_o the_o jurisdiction_n which_o he_o speak_v of_o he_o make_v common_a to_o both_o and_o express_o apply_v it_o to_o both_o to_o the_o combine_a church_n or_o synod_n as_o well_o as_o to_o the_o particular_a or_o prime_a church_n and_o further_o that_o in_o the_o 12._o chapter_n he_o speak_v general_o of_o both_o these_o kind_n of_o church_n he_o manifest_v in_o the_o first_o word_n of_o the_o 13._o chapter_n where_o he_o begin_v thus_o ibiden_v thus_o ibiden_v hitherto_o we_o have_v speak_v of_o the_o church_n in_o general_a so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v the_o subject_n of_o ecclesiastical_a polity_n now_o let_v we_o come_v to_o the_o divers_a kind_n thereof_o ii_o notwithstanding_o the_o superiority_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o mr_n par._n 77._o par._n ibid._n p._n 77._o acknowledge_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o pastor_n to_o be_v very_o great_a as_o have_v it_o immediate_o from_o christ_n and_o not_o only_o the_o authority_n but_o also_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o same_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n in_o which_o respect_n he_o say_v he_o be_v superior_a not_o to_o man_n only_o but_o to_o the_o angel_n themselves_o gal._n 1.8_o as_o be_v in_o christ_n stead_n 2._o cor._n 5.19_o 20._o so_o long_o as_o he_o use_v this_o authority_n lawful_o and_o repeat_v the_o same_o again_o he_o proceed_v further_o when_o he_o say_v that_o if_o he_o do_v not_o lawful_o exercise_v his_o authority_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n than_o he_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o pastor_n 88_o pastor_n ibid._n p._n 88_o quo_fw-la casu_fw-la solo_fw-la eum_fw-la suae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la subjectum_fw-la esse_fw-la dicimus_fw-la in_o which_o case_n alone_o we_o say_v that_o he_o be_v subject_a unto_o his_o church_n if_o in_o this_o case_n alone_o which_o i_o dare_v not_o have_v say_v then_o in_o other_o case_n the_o authority_n of_o many_o pastor_n &_o elder_n especial_o meet_v together_o in_o a_o synod_n may_v exercise_v a_o authority_n superior_a unto_o one_o particular_a church_n i._o dav_n and_o in_o cap._n 18.13_o make_v a_o comparison_n between_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o church_n combine_v in_o synod_n and_o class_n he_o affirm_v that_o the_o difference_n between_o they_o be_v not_o in_o the_o intensive_a consideration_n of_o their_o power_n which_o the_o congregation_n have_v in_o reference_n to_o the_o key_n within_o itself_o but_o in_o the_o extensive_a power_n only_o wherein_o the_o synod_n have_v a_o power_n extend_v to_o more_o object_n viz._n to_o many_o church_n in_o thing_n common_a whereas_o the_o power_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v confine_v and_o limit_v within_o its_o own_o compass_n answ._n in_o this_o 13._o chap._n for_o that_o number_n of_o 18._o seem_v to_o be_v mistake_v mr_n parker_n do_v again_o give_v divers_a pregnant_a testimony_n for_o the_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n of_o synod_n i._o in_o the_o place_n allege_v his_o word_n be_v these_o 121._o these_o pol._n eccl_n l._n 2._o c._n 13._o p._n 121._o i_o distinguish_v touch_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n which_o be_v intensive_a or_o extensive_a no_o prime_a church_n no_o not_o the_o least_o of_o they_o do_v want_v the_o intensive_a power_n but_o it_o want_v that_o extensive_a which_o a_o synod_n have_v see_v the_o power_n thereof_o be_v extend_v to_o many_o church_n whereas_o the_o power_n of_o the_o prime_n or_o particular_a church_n be_v not_o extend_v beyond_o she_o own_o bound_n the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n a_o ecclesiastical_a power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v whether_o intensive_a or_o extensive_a this_o power_n he_o confess_v to_o be_v in_o a_o synod_n and_o therefore_o the_o use_n of_o synod_n be_v not_o only_o for_o counsel_n or_o admonition_n but_o for_o jurisdiction_n also_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o cause_n whereas_o according_a to_o mr_n d._n his_o allegation_n the_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o power_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o of_o a_o synod_n be_v in_o the_o extensive_a power_n only_o therefore_o the_o synod_n be_v also_o of_o great_a power_n and_o jurisdiction_n in_o extension_n unto_o many_o church_n ii_o in_o compare_v the_o power_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n with_o a_o synod_n he_o say_v express_o 129._o express_o ibid._n p._n 129._o major_a quidem_fw-la potestas_fw-la est_fw-la synodi_fw-la quam_fw-la unius_fw-la alicujus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la primae_fw-la &_o parochialis_fw-la great_a be_v the_o power_n of_o a_o synod_n then_o of_o any_o one_o prime_a or_o parishional_a church_n but_o if_o synod_n can_v only_o counsel_v and_o admonish_v &_o a_o particular_a church_n beside_o that_o can_v censure_v and_o use_v ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n then_o shall_v a_o particular_a church_n have_v great_a power_n than_o a_o synod_n and_o not_o only_o great_a intensive_a power_n but_o as_o great_a extensive_a see_v a_o particular_a church_n yea_o or_o a_o particular_a person_n may_v give_v counsel_n or_o admonition_n either_o to_o a_o synod_n or_o to_o many_o church_n as_o occasion_n shall_v require_v it_o be_v true_a indeed_o which_o mr_n p._n say_v that_o all_o the_o parishional_a church_n be_v great_a than_o their_o synod_n see_v by_o a_o new_a synod_n they_o may_v abrogate_v that_o which_o be_v ordain_v amiss_o by_o their_o deputy_n without_o their_o consent_n sentence_n and_o will_n this_o he_o prove_v by_o many_o argument_n and_o this_o we_o willing_o consent_v unto_o this_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o all_o the_o reform_a church_n but_o this_o be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n that_o a_o synod_n have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o jurisdiction_n and_o great_a authority_n than_o any_o one_o church_n iii_o this_o be_v another_o conclusion_n of_o mr_n parker_n 120._o parker_n ibid._n p._n 120._o we_o say_v there_o be_v one_o form_n of_o government_n institute_v of_o christ_n in_o all_o church_n both_o prime_a and_o combine_v so_o that_o we_o may_v not_o dream_v there_o be_v in_o the_o prime_a church_n a_o different_a form_n from_o that_o which_o be_v in_o the_o combine_a church_n neither_o may_v we_o imagine_v that_o in_o the_o combine_a church_n there_o be_v another_o different_a from_o that_o by_o which_o the_o prime_a church_n be_v govern_v if_o this_o assertion_n be_v true_a than_o mr_n dau._n and_o those_o of_o his_o mind_n do_v dream_n when_o they_o imagine_v so_o different_a a_o form_n of_o government_n to_o be_v institute_v in_o the_o particular_a church_n and_o synod_n which_o he_o call_v the_o combine_a church_n that_o one_o sort_n of_o they_o shall_v only_o give_v counsel_n &_o admonition_n &_o the_o other_o exercise_n ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n &_o censure_n i._o dav_n 241.242_o dav_n apol._n reply_n p._n 241.242_o the_o same_o author_n in_o the_o 20_o chapter_n speak_v of_o the_o summity_n or_o supremacy_n of_o the_o power_n of_o particular_a congregation_n propound_v the_o due_a limit_n of_o it_o wherein_z he_o conceive_v it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v and_o bound_v as_o that_o the_o power_n of_o particular_a church_n be_v chief_a 1._o in_o its_o own_o matter_n not_o in_o thing_n common_a to_o many_o church_n 2._o in_o case_n it_o be_v able_a to_o transact_v its_o own_o matter_n within_o itself_o as_o if_o a_o doubt_n or_o controversy_n arise_v the_o church_n have_v power_n to_o terminate_v it_o if_o it_o can_v as_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n first_o dispute_v the_o matter_n among_o themselves_o and_o labour_v to_o compose_v the_o difference_n within_o themselves_o but_o find_v not_o a_o want_n of_o right_a to_o end_v it_o among_o themselves_o but_o need_v of_o more_o
allege_v for_o the_o warrant_n of_o this_o combination_n of_o church_n in_o synod_n for_o their_o mutual_a help_n they_o be_v all_o of_o they_o such_o as_o do_v equal_o yea_o and_o primary_o concern_v the_o communion_n and_o society_n of_o several_a person_n and_o member_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n where_o it_o be_v confess_v by_o our_o opposite_n that_o there_o be_v jurisdiction_n as_o well_o as_o counsel_v if_o these_o place_n will_v have_v remove_v jurisdiction_n from_o synod_n and_o condemn_v the_o subjection_n of_o church_n unto_o a_o synod_n then_o will_v they_o also_o have_v do_v the_o like_a for_o particular_a church_n and_o have_v condemn_v the_o subjection_n of_o member_n thereunto_o see_v they_o do_v not_o the_o one_o therefore_o not_o the_o other_o also_o ii_o in_o prosecute_v his_o 2_o argument_n 330.331_o argument_n p._n 330.331_o take_v from_o the_o form_n of_o combination_n which_o be_v consociation_n consist_v in_o a_o mutual_a obligation_n he_o confirm_v it_o 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lawful_a and_o just_a object_n of_o classical_a and_o synodall_n jurisdiction_n by_o proportion_n from_o the_o same_o rule_n matt._n 18._o if_o one_o member_n sin_n or_o suffer_v it_o become_v a_o common_a cause_n so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v know_v all_o the_o member_n suffer_v with_o it_o and_o take_v care_n for_o the_o redress_n of_o it_o in_o a_o particular_a church_n 1._o cor._n 12.25_o 26._o and_o if_o one_o church_n sin_n &_o be_v in_o danger_n it_o become_v a_o common_a cause_n all_o the_o church_n that_o be_v member_n of_o the_o same_o body_n especial_o those_o that_o be_v unite_v by_o covenant_n in_o a_o classical_a and_o synodall_n government_n be_v to_o take_v care_n for_o it_o and_o to_o seek_v help_n according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o danger_n thus_o the_o community_n of_o cause_n infer_v combination_n and_o further_o for_o that_o which_o he_o repeat_v again_o that_o this_o combination_n of_o church_n by_o accident_n be_v without_o subjection_n it_o be_v still_o 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controversy_n that_o arise_v in_o the_o same_o and_o according_a to_o mr_n parker_n do_v exercise_v a_o lawful_a jurisdiction_n herein_o from_o this_o communication_n of_o church_n he_o come_v to_o speak_v 340._o speak_v ibid._n c._n 23._o p._n 345._o 340._o of_o their_o combination_n from_o whence_o arise_v a_o combine_a church_n derive_v from_o other_o church_n this_o combination_n he_o note_v to_o consist_v either_o of_o two_o or_o more_o church_n a_o instance_n of_o this_o combination_n of_o two_o he_o give_v in_o the_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n act._n 15._o and_o say_v it_o be_v a_o council_n and_o synod_n and_o that_o proper_o and_o that_o of_o two_o church_n to_o wit_n of_o antioch_n and_o jerusalem_n for_o the_o messenger_n send_v from_o antioch_n be_v present_a which_o represent_v the_o church_n of_o antioch_n as_o be_v usual_a in_o counsel_n and_o notwithstanding_o a_o objection_n make_v against_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n yet_o he_o say_v that_o church_n be_v also_o 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of_o this_o in_o those_o small_a church_n about_o geneva_n which_o not_o be_v sufficient_a for_o themselves_o do_v join_v themselves_o unto_o the_o church_n in_o the_o next_o city_n so_o that_o they_o come_v together_o weekly_o into_o the_o neighbour-consistory_n of_o the_o city_n this_o combination_n of_o lesser_a church_n into_o one_o eldership_n or_o consistory_n mr_n parker_n approve_v and_o justifyes_n and_o declare_v his_o judgement_n touch_v this_o kind_n of_o consociation_n 1._o he_o say_v it_o be_v ground_v upon_o the_o communion_n of_o church_n and_o derive_v from_o the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o complain_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n that_o do_v so_o virulent_o impugn_v the_o same_o 2._o 348._o 2._o p._n 348._o whereas_o nothing_o be_v more_o object_v against_o the_o reformation_n in_o england_n then_o that_o many_o church_n or_o parish_n be_v unable_a for_o it_o want_v fit_a man_n to_o govern_v and_o to_o exercise_v discipline_n in_o eldership_n mr_n parker_n answer_v 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complain_v that_o church_n be_v bring_v into_o bondage_n and_o loose_v their_o liberty_n when_o they_o may_v not_o excommunicate_v without_o the_o consent_n of_o other_o mr_n parker_n answer_n be_v 349._o be_v p._n 349._o that_o the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n ordination_n and_o other_o jurisdiction_n remain_v pure_a in_o they_o save_v that_o communion_n which_o ought_v to_o be_v among_o church_n every_o church_n in_o great_a matter_n use_v the_o consent_n and_o counsel_n of_o her_o neighbour_n as_o of_o the_o classis_fw-la or_o eldership_n in_o the_o city_n quod_fw-la ego_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la vel_fw-la perfectissimis_fw-la non_fw-la indigâ—um_fw-la reor_fw-la which_o i_o judge_v say_v he_o not_o to_o be_v unmeet_a even_o for_o the_o most_o perfect_a church_n thus_o he_o require_v not_o only_a counsel_n but_o consent_n of_o other_o church_n in_o weighty_a matter_n which_o be_v that_o we_o stand_v for_o this_o do_v not_o as_o he_o say_v 390._o say_v p._n 390._o import_v any_o 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otherwise_o prove_v the_o pelagian_o to_o be_v heretic_n but_o because_o they_o be_v condemn_v of_o the_o roman_a bishop_n innocentius_n zozimus_n bonifacius_n &_o celestine_n junius_n answer_v 14._o answer_v n._n 14._o no_o otherwise_o it_o be_v false_a for_o pelagius_n be_v first_o condemn_v by_o the_o synod_n of_o carthage_n and_o of_o milevis_n but_o when_o he_o go_v beyond_o sea_n to_o rome_n where_o he_o so_o crafty_o infinuate_v himself_o that_o there_o be_v great_a fear_n lest_o he_o shall_v inflict_v a_o soarer_n wound_v upon_o the_o church_n at_o rome_n the_o african_a bishop_n do_v prudent_o and_o religious_o certify_v innocentius_n by_o two_o letter_n both_o concern_v the_o sentence_n of_o their_o synod_n and_o concern_v the_o imminent_a peril_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n unless_o according_a to_o the_o example_n of_o they_o in_o africa_n they_o do_v provide_v for_o the_o public_a safety_n etc._n etc._n another_o example_n of_o synodical_a jurisdiction_n allow_v by_o 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by_o my_o opposite_n in_o allow_v no_o such_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n whereas_o bellarmine_n condemn_v the_o magdeburgenses_n as_o be_v altogether_o absurd_a and_o ridiculous_a for_o their_o denial_n of_o appeal_n junius_n deny_v the_o fact_n and_o say_v 5._o say_v n._n 5._o his_o reason_n be_v inconsequent_a that_o all_o appeal_n shall_v be_v altogether_o forbid_v because_o the_o appeal_n to_o they_o beyond_o the_o sea_n be_v forbid_v when_o calvine_n allege_v a_o certain_a canon_n of_o the_o synod_n hold_v at_o milevis_n in_o africa_n to_o refute_v the_o ambitious_a usurpation_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o manifest_v thereby_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o synod_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o cause_n because_o it_o be_v decree_v that_o appeal_n shall_v be_v make_v to_o the_o african_a synod_n and_o not_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n junius_n etc._n junius_n ibid._n in_o c._n 24._o n_o 2._o etc._n etc._n maintain_v this_o allegation_n and_o vindicate_v it_o against_o the_o exception_n of_o bellarmine_n and_o he_o 11._o he_o n._n 11._o allege_v further_a to_o this_o purpose_n the_o epistle_n which_o the_o council_n of_o africa_n write_v unto_o pope_n celestine_n in_o these_o word_n after_o due_a salutation_n officious_o premise_v we_o earnest_o desire_v that_o hereafter_o you_o will_v not_o admit_v unto_o your_o audience_n those_o that_o come_v from_o hence_o and_o that_o you_o will_v not_o receive_v into_o your_o communion_n those_o that_o be_v excommunicate_v of_o we_o etc._n etc._n this_o request_n junius_n call_v a_o modest_a and_o brotherly_a prohibition_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o pope_n shall_v not_o receive_v appeal_n from_o they_o but_o if_o there_o be_v no_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a power_n to_o judge_v the_o controversy_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n then_o may_v these_o african_a synod_n have_v be_v accuse_v of_o usurpation_n over_o particular_a church_n as_o transgress_v the_o bound_n of_o modesty_n and_o of_o their_o call_n for_o 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not_o subject_a to_o their_o censure_n nor_o under_o their_o jurisdiction_n junius_n 6._o junius_n ibid._n in_o c._n 27._o n._n 6._o deny_v this_o distinction_n for_o though_o say_v he_o we_o shall_v grant_v that_o it_o take_v place_n in_o foro_fw-la soli_fw-la in_o civil_a court_n to_o wit_n for_o the_o judge_n of_o prince_n yet_o be_v it_o of_o no_o force_n in_o foro_fw-la coeli_fw-la et_fw-la conscientiae_fw-la in_o ecclesiastical_a judicatories_n because_o the_o reason_n of_o they_o be_v not_o alike_o etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o next_o animadversion_n 7._o animadversion_n n._n 7._o speak_v still_o of_o those_o law_n &_o canon_n make_v by_o synod_n he_o affirm_v that_o as_o every_o other_o bishop_n so_o the_o pope_n also_o be_v subject_n unto_o they_o according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n when_o bellarmine_n say_v the_o council_n or_o synod_n of_o the_o greek_n can_v not_o make_v a_o law_n for_o the_o latin_n etc._n etc._n junius_n 33._o junius_n n._n 16._o see_v also_o n._n 33._o deny_v the_o same_o and_o give_v a_o reason_n because_o that_o synod_n be_v ecumenical_a or_o universal_a therein_o he_o acknowledge_v that_o they_o have_v a_o great_a authority_n then_o only_o to_o admonish_v or_o counsel_v again_o when_o bellarmine_n answer_v the_o argument_n of_o nilus_n say_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o canon_n viz._n of_o synod_n etc._n etc._n that_o he_o be_v subject_a to_o christ_n &_o not_o to_o the_o father_n that_o he_o do_v not_o contemn_v the_o father_n nor_o their_o canon_n but_o use_v they_o for_o direction_n though_o he_o can_v be_v compel_v by_o they_o etc._n etc._n junius_n 40._o junius_n n._n 40._o oppose_v he_o further_o &_o say_v 42._o say_v n._n 42._o that_o he_o ought_v to_o be_v subject_a both_o to_o christ_n and_o to_o the_o father_n by_o christ_n who_o have_v so_o prescribe_v 1._o cor._n 14.29_o 32._o and_o add_v further_a 46._o further_a n._n 46._o if_o he_o can_v be_v compel_v by_o the_o canon_n that_o he_o be_v therefore_o right_o call_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o wicked_a one_o or_o lawless_a person_n 2._o thes_n 2._o whereas_o some_o now_o adays_o begin_v to_o speak_v evil_a of_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n as_o of_o a_o antichristian_a authority_n junius_n be_v so_o far_o opposite_a unto_o they_o that_o he_o account_v the_o pope_n even_o in_o this_o regard_n to_o be_v antichrist_n and_o the_o man_n of_o sin_n because_o he_o refuse_v to_o be_v subject_a unto_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n in_o their_o canon_n and_o decree_n moreover_o in_o compare_v of_o the_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a estate_n junius_n say_v 27._o say_v ibid._n in_o c._n 29._o n._n 27._o king_n have_v their_o authority_n in_o civil_a matter_n rom._n 13._o and_o the_o synod_n in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n above_o the_o pope_n as_o it_o be_v define_v in_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n and_o basel_n and_o their_o authority_n be_v so_o
monothelite_n this_o be_v more_o than_o counsel_n or_o admonition_n he_o show_v in_o the_o same_o place_n that_o many_o law_n be_v make_v concern_v bishop_n both_o of_o the_o apostle_n and_o of_o synod_n which_o do_v certain_o bind_v all_o bishop_n when_o bellarmine_n answer_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v bind_v by_o ecclesiastical_a law_n in_o respect_n of_o direction_n not_o of_o coaction_n which_o distinction_n be_v in_o effect_n the_o same_o which_o our_o opposite_n use_v now_o viz._n that_o synod_n may_v bind_v or_o be_v respect_v for_o their_o counsel_n not_o for_o their_o jurisdiction_n chamierus_n repli_v again_o and_o plead_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v subject_a unto_o those_o law_n not_o only_o for_o their_o direction_n but_o for_o their_o coaction_n or_o constraint_n viz._n in_o regard_n of_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n he_o say_v further_a even_o as_o particular_a synod_n do_v bind_v all_o the_o bishop_n within_o their_o own_o jurisdiction_n so_o universal_a synod_n 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that_o be_v fall_v iii_o how_o he_o allow_v the_o order_n of_o convocate_a and_o assemble_v neighbour_n bishop_n about_o the_o create_v of_o a_o new_a bishop_n affirm_v this_o to_o be_v caesarien_n be_v epi._n 30._o ad_fw-la caesarien_n right_a and_o according_a to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a law_n iv_o how_o he_o in_o his_o counsel_n and_o exhortation_n unto_o the_o synod_n at_o constantinope_n 8._o constantinope_n theod._n hist_o eccl._n l._n 5._o c._n 8._o asscribe_v unto_o they_o authority_n and_o power_n for_o his_o own_o dimission_n and_o translation_n for_o the_o set_n of_o another_o unblameable_a bishop_n in_o his_o place_n and_o thereby_o withal_o for_o the_o deposition_n and_o abdication_n of_o maximus_n which_o be_v according_o perform_v that_o which_o may_v with_o more_o colour_n be_v object_v out_o of_o nazianzen_n against_o the_o use_n of_o synod_n and_o which_o be_v also_o allege_a both_o by_o mr_n can_n and_o by_o mr_n davenp_n though_o not_o direct_o against_o the_o 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before_o grosser_n fault_n be_v more_o common_a with_o he_o ii_o as_o for_o the_o testimony_n of_o nazianzen_n the_o answer_n of_o d._n whitaker_n may_v give_v sufficient_a satisfaction_n who_o say_v 15._o say_v de_fw-fr conc_fw-fr qu._n 1._o c._n 3._o p._n 13.14_o 15._o it_o may_v seem_v strange_a that_o nazianzen_n deny_v he_o have_v see_v a_o good_a issue_n of_o any_o synod_n for_o in_o those_o two_o synod_n viz._n of_o nice_a and_o constantinople_n which_o have_v be_v mention_v before_o truth_n get_v the_o victory_n and_o heresy_n be_v put_v down_o and_o though_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o arianisme_n be_v increase_v and_o grow_v strong_a and_o trouble_v the_o church_n after_o the_o synod_n of_o nice_a more_o than_o before_o yet_o that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v impute_v to_o the_o synod_n but_o to_o the_o contention_n and_o ambition_n of_o man_n for_o as_o our_o corrupt_a nature_n do_v more_o vehement_o resist_v the_o know_a law_n of_o god_n and_o rush_v headlong_o unto_o sin_n so_o falsehood_n oppose_v itself_o more_o bold_o unto_o the_o truth_n then_o explain_v and_o open_o defend_v whereupon_o after_o that_o synod_n which_o none_o excel_v great_a incommodity_n do_v arise_v from_o the_o wickedness_n of_o man_n etc._n etc._n when_o nazianz._n see_v so_o wicked_a disposition_n of_o man_n he_o be_v whole_o turn_v from_o counsel_n although_o without_o doubt_n he_o disallow_v not_o the_o thing_n itself_o but_o the_o wicked_a endeavour_n of_o man_n now_o if_o any_o will_v reason_v after_o this_o manner_n the_o issue_n of_o synod_n be_v not_o good_a or_o more_o evil_n follow_v thence_o therefore_o synod_n be_v to_o be_v avoid_v that_o man_n shall_v dispute_v deceitful_o from_o a_o wrong_a cause_n from_o accident_n and_o from_o the_o fallacy_n of_o consequent_a but_o nazianzen_n be_v to_o be_v pardon_v because_o he_o live_v in_o the_o worst_a and_o most_o turbulent_a time_n of_o the_o church_n when_o by_o mean_n of_o valens_n the_o emperor_n that_o degenerate_v from_o the_o catholic_n faith_n heretic_n do_v more_o prevail_v etc._n etc._n again_o he_o oppose_v augustine_n unto_o nazianzene_n and_o say_v it_o be_v most_o true_a which_o augustine_n say_v epist_n 118._o that_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v most_o wholesome_a which_o certain_o he_o will_v not_o have_v say_v if_o he_o have_v be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n with_o nazianzen_n and_o further_o he_o oppose_v unto_o the_o speech_n of_o nazianz._n the_o testimony_n of_o christ_n say_v christ_n himself_o pronounce_v and_o promise_v matt._n 18.20_o where_o two_o or_o three_o be_v assemble_v together_o in_o his_o name_n there_o he_o will_v be_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o they_o in_o which_o word_n he_o signifi_v that_o the_o assembly_n and_o synod_n of_o godly_a and_o religious_a man_n undertake_v and_o appoint_v for_o godly_a cause_n be_v not_o displease_v unto_o he_o iii_o the_o testimony_n of_o nazianzen_n be_v as_o much_o against_o the_o opinion_n of_o mr_n can_n and_o mr_n dau._n as_o against_o that_o which_o we_o hold_v touch_v class_n and_o synod_n for_o see_v they_o allow_v such_o meeting_n for_o counsel_n and_o admonition_n though_o not_o for_o exercise_v of_o any_o jurisdiction_n and_o see_v the_o testimony_n of_o nazian_n do_v extend_v itself_o to_o all_o kind_n of_o assembly_n of_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d whether_o for_o counsel_n or_o censure_n without_o exception_n of_o one_o sort_n more_o than_o another_o therefore_o he_o no_o more_o condemn_v our_o synod_n than_o those_o which_o my_o opposite_n allow_v augustine_n his_o next_o witness_n be_v in_o like_a manner_n pervert_v as_o the_o former_a though_o he_o in_o the_o place_n 17._o place_n dedoct_n chr._n l._n 1._o c._n 17._o object_v do_v write_v that_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n yet_o do_v he_o not_o thereby_o exclude_v synod_n gather_v together_o in_o the_o name_n of_o
sabbath_n bestow_v it_o whole_o in_o divine_a and_o religious_a exercise_n resort_v 73._o resort_v ib._n cap._n 3._o p._n 54._o &_o 72_o 73._o four_o time_n a_o day_n to_o the_o public_a assembly_n of_o god_n worship_n even_o in_o the_o winter_n time_n and_o in_o summer_n five_o time_n a_o day_n etc._n etc._n the_o bond_n of_o that_o perfection_n which_o they_o seek_v for_o and_o have_v in_o some_o measure_n attain_v unto_o seem_v to_o be_v their_o combination_n in_o synod_n and_o that_o unity_n therein_o whereupon_o they_o be_v denominate_v their_o government_n and_o the_o fruit_n thereof_o have_v be_v such_o that_o many_o of_o the_o special_a light_n of_o christendom_n since_o the_o time_n of_o reformation_n have_v admit_v and_o commend_v the_o same_o and_o sundry_a of_o they_o have_v wish_v for_o the_o like_a discipline_n and_o order_n in_o the_o church_n where_o they_o live_v as_o appear_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o luther_n melancthon_n bucer_n pet._n paulus_n vergerius_n beza_n zanchius_n olevian_n vrsinus_n chytraeus_n pet._n martyr_n calvin_n polanus_fw-la bucholcerus_n which_o testimony_n be_v 106-122_a be_v p._n 106-122_a affix_v unto_o the_o end_n of_o that_o book_n of_o their_o discipline_n yea_o the_o print_n of_o this_o book_n of_o their_o discipline_n according_a to_o their_o common_a order_n in_o such_o case_n be_v not_o do_v without_o the_o 16._o the_o pref._n p._n 8._o &_o 16._o authority_n of_o a_o synod_n &_o namely_o of_o that_o which_o be_v celebrate_v at_o lessna_n in_o poland_n anno_fw-la 1632._o they_o being_n by_o the_o present_a trouble_n disperse_v abroad_o into_o those_o part_n unto_o that_o which_o he_o have_v allege_v out_o of_o the_o bohemian_a confession_n mr_n can_v say_v the_o church_n under_o the_o palsgrave_n likewise_o consent_v and_o to_o this_o end_n he_o cit_v their_o public_a catechism_n in_o the_o end_n of_o part_n 2._o for_o answer_v hereunto_o 1._o if_o these_o church_n consent_n unto_o that_o which_o the_o bohemian_a church_n have_v profess_v than_o they_o do_v not_o agree_v with_o mr_n can._n as_o appear_v by_o what_o have_v be_v say_v in_o the_o forego_n answer_n 11._o the_o place_n here_o allege_v have_v nothing_o touch_v the_o person_n to_o who_o the_o key_n be_v give_v which_o be_v the_o thing_n for_o which_o it_o be_v produce_v it_o speak_v only_o of_o the_o use_n of_o the_o key_n and_o the_o ordinary_a exercise_n of_o discipline_n in_o the_o church_n without_o restrain_v the_o same_o unto_o the_o sole_a jurisdiction_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n or_o exclude_v the_o authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n either_o for_o advise_v &_o consent_v before_o hand_n or_o for_o the_o correct_v of_o abuse_n commit_v in_o the_o administration_n of_o it_o and_o that_o the_o power_n of_o a_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a judicatorie_a exercise_v in_o such_o case_n be_v agreeable_a unto_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o palatinate_n may_v appear_v from_o the_o testimony_n 191.192.193_o testimony_n p._n 191.192.193_o before_o note_a out_o of_o vrsinus_n tossanus_n &_o paraeus_n divine_n of_o special_a eminency_n in_o those_o church_n iii_o whereas_o it_o be_v say_v in_o this_o catechism_n 85._o catechism_n qu._n 85._o concern_v ecclesiastical_a discipline_n that_o offender_n after_o other_o admonition_n persist_v in_o their_o error_n and_o wickedness_n be_v to_o be_v make_v know_v unto_o the_o church_n lest_o this_o shall_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o whole_a multitude_n it_o be_v add_v present_o or_o to_o they_o that_o be_v appoint_v for_o that_o matter_n and_o purpose_n of_o the_o church_n and_o if_o neither_o than_o they_o obey_v their_o admonition_n be_v of_o the_o same_o man_n by_o forbid_v they_o the_o sacrament_n shut_v out_o from_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n the_o meaning_n be_v as_o it_o be_v explain_v 85._o explain_v explic._n catech._n ad_fw-la qu._n 85._o by_o vrsinus_n who_o also_o yield_v special_a 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of_o wolfg._n musculus_fw-la touch_v the_o doctrine_n of_o praedestination_n the_o ruler_n of_o berne_n follow_v the_o order_n of_o the_o apostle_n do_v appoint_v a_o synod_n out_o of_o all_o the_o class_n within_o their_o jurisdiction_n who_o together_o with_o the_o help_n of_o other_o excellent_a teacher_n call_v from_o zurich_n basel_n schaphuysen_n and_o geneva_n do_v take_v cognition_n of_o the_o difference_n and_o after_o due_a trial_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n make_v a_o conclusion_n so_o that_o thereby_o the_o church_n be_v bring_v unto_o their_o former_a peace_n that_o which_o be_v next_o allege_v by_o mr_n c._n from_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o french_a 30._o french_a art_n 30._o church_n viz._n the_o equality_n of_o all_o true_a minister_n and_o church_n so_o that_o none_o may_v arrogate_v dominion_n over_o another_o be_v not_o at_o all_o hinder_v by_o that_o authority_n which_o be_v exercise_v in_o synod_n see_v all_o the_o particular_a church_n unite_v in_o synod_n be_v in_o like_a manner_n and_o equal_o
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the_o plain_a way_n to_o sedition_n &_o tumult_n h._n ainsw._n ibid._n ainsw._n ibid._n oft_o time_n the_o head_n of_o the_o people_n judge_v for_o reward_n mich._n 3.11_o the_o prince_n as_o lion_n the_o judge_n as_o wolf_n devour_v they_o the_o priest_n pollute_v the_o sanctuary_n &_o wrest_v the_o law_n zeph._n 3.3_o 4._o isa_n 1.23_o and_o then_o the_o people_n of_o the_o land_n who_o duâ—ty_n also_o it_o be_v to_o look_v to_o open_a wickedness_n levit._n 20.24_o be_v neither_o to_o follow_v the_o many_o nor_o mighty_a in_o evil_a exod._n 23.2_o 7._o answ._n 1_o oft_o time_n the_o people_n also_o be_v wicked_a rebellious_a idolatrous_a apostate_n and_o presumptuous_a abettor_n &_o maintainer_n of_o evil_a sometime_o as_o bad_a &_o sometime_o worse_o than_o their_o governor_n exod._n 32.1_o etc._n etc._n numb_a 14_o 1-10_a &_o 16.41_o 42._o judg._n 2.11_o 19_o etc._n etc._n but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o determine_v the_o right_n of_o authority_n do_v that_o vary_v &_o change_v according_a to_o the_o goodness_n &_o wickedness_n of_o the_o person_n we_o be_v teach_v the_o contrary_a of_o god_n though_o the_o roman_a emperor_n in_o paul_n time_n be_v a_o lion_n devour_v many_o 2._o tim._n 4.17_o yet_o he_o teach_v submission_n unto_o the_o authority_n even_o of_o such_o rom._n 13.1_o 2._o etc._n etc._n though_o annas_n &_o caiaphas_n &_o other_o wicked_a priest_n &_o scribe_n &_o pharisee_n be_v wolf_n devour_a widow_n house_n pollute_v the_o sanctuary_n &_o wrest_v the_o law_n john_n 18._o matt._n 23._o yet_o we_o be_v teach_v to_o acknowledge_v the_o authority_n of_o such_o matt._n 8.4_o act._n 23.5_o 2._o though_o wicked_a ruler_n be_v not_o to_o be_v obey_v in_o their_o unlawful_a commandment_n and_o therefore_o the_o servant_n of_o saul_n do_v well_o not_o to_o execute_v his_o bloody_a commandment_n 1._o sam._n 22.17_o wherein_o
for_o one_o act_n he_o raven_v as_o the_o wolf_n of_o benjamin_n gen._n 49.27_o yet_o the_o authority_n remain_v in_o he_o &_o not_o in_o those_o that_o disobey_v he_o subjection_n unto_o authority_n be_v show_v if_o not_o by_o obedience_n yet_o by_o patience_n in_o suffer_v according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o god_n if_o need_v require_v 3._o but_o that_o any_o of_o the_o people_n which_o be_v subject_n shall_v go_v further_a to_o execute_v civil_a judgement_n when_o the_o ruler_n neglect_v justice_n this_o be_v not_o prove_v by_o leu._n 20.2_o 4._o the_o people_n their_o mention_a be_v not_o the_o subject_n consider_v apart_o from_o their_o ruler_n but_o under_o the_o title_n of_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n there_o speak_v unto_o be_v comprehend_v principal_o the_o prince_n of_o the_o people_n &_o ruler_n of_o israel_n the_o other_o people_n if_o they_o do_v mourn_v in_o themselves_o &_o complain_v unto_o other_o for_o the_o redress_n of_o such_o evil_n be_v not_o to_o be_v blame_v but_o have_v the_o mark_n of_o god_n favour_n upon_o they_o ezek._n 8.6_o with_o ezek._n 9.4_o h._n ainsw._n 20._o ainsw._n animadv_n p._n 20._o i_o find_v how_o in_o naboth_n case_n though_o it_o be_v a_o wicked_a fact_n there_o be_v a_o solemn_a fast_o and_o assembly_n of_o the_o people_n with_o their_o governor_n 1._o kin._n 21.12_o 13._o answ._n but_o you_o find_v not_o one_o word_n there_o to_o prove_v any_o power_n in_o the_o people_n either_o to_o condemn_v or_o to_o absolve_v &_o acquit_v naboth_n the_o presence_n of_o the_o people_n be_v note_v but_o the_o kill_n of_o naboth_n be_v asscribe_v unto_o the_o elder_n and_o noble_n of_o the_o city_n according_a to_o that_o which_o jezebel_n require_v of_o they_o ibid._n vers_fw-la 9_o 10_o 11._o h._n ainsw._n ibid._n ainsw._n ibid._n in_o jeremies_n case_n he_o be_v accuse_v to_o the_o prince_n and_o people_n make_v his_o defence_n to_o prince_n &_o people_n and_o be_v acquit_v by_o prince_n &_o people_n jerem._n 26.11_o 12_o 16._o 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of_o the_o people_n and_o this_o agree_v with_o the_o text_n vers_fw-la 17._o where_o there_o be_v mention_n of_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o land_n rise_v up_o out_o of_o their_o seat_n and_o speak_v to_o the_o multitude_n as_o well_o as_o the_o prince_n of_o the_o court_n that_o come_v up_o from_o the_o king_n house_n vers_n 10_o 16._o even_o in_o that_o part_n of_o the_o government_n which_o be_v democraticall_a and_o popular_a yet_o be_v there_o some_o ruler_n represent_v the_o people_n 3._o person_n accuse_v do_v sometime_o speak_v to_o their_o accuser_n for_o refutation_n of_o they_o as_o jeremy_n here_o may_v do_v unto_o a_o multitude_n of_o the_o people_n that_o have_v deal_v so_o unjust_o with_o he_o vers_n 8_o 9_o and_o yet_o without_o allow_v they_o to_o have_v authority_n in_o give_v sentence_n against_o he_o h._n ainsw._n 20._o ainsw._n animadv_n p._n 20._o when_o king_n saul_n swear_v that_o jonathan_n shall_v die_v the_o people_n swear_v the_o contrary_a &_o save_v he_o 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