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A19142 A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D. Burgesse his rejoinder for D. Morton The first part Ames, William, 1576-1633. 1633 (1633) STC 555; ESTC S100154 485,880 929

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blessing_n where_o the_o lesser_a be_v bless_v of_o the_o great_a as_o scripture_n teach_v the_o rejoynder_n have_v bring_v but_o two_o example_n to_o infringe_v the_o generality_n of_o it_o act._n 13.2_o leu._n 1.4_o and_o in_o both_o of_o these_o it_o hould_v for_o they_o that_o lay_v hand_n on_o paul_n and_o silas_n do_v it_o not_o only_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a society_n which_o in_o such_o case_n have_v some_o dispensative_a superiority_n over_o particular_a member_n but_o also_o by_o commission_n from_o god_n which_o give_v they_o in_o th●t_a business_n superiority_n and_o he_o that_o bring_v a_o beast_n to_o be_v sacrifice_v leu._n 1._o have_v certain_o power_n over_o it_o if_o the_o rejoynder_n can_v have_v show_v we_o where_o and_o when_o a_o servant_n impose_v his_o hand_n upon_o his_o master_n head_n or_o a_o son_n upon_o his_o father_n that_o have_v be_v to_o the_o purpose_n we_o on_o the_o contrary_n say_v with_o tostatus_n on_o gen._n 47._o that_o the_o put_n under_o of_o the_o hand_n be_v never_o use_v but_o by_o a_o inferior_a to_o his_o superior_a 4._o yet_o the_o rej._n have_v more_o to_o say_v namely_o that_o the_o sign_n of_o a_o servant_n duty_n to_o which_o he_o be_v bind_v by_o oath_n be_v a_o mystical_a sign_n of_o some_o spiritual_a duty_n because_o all_o the_o law_n be_v spiritual_a and_o obedience_n to_o master_n for_o conscience_n sake_n be_v a_o service_n of_o god_n whereto_o i_o answer_v that_o i_o never_o hear_v the_o hangman_n office_n which_o be_v servile_a call_v a_o spiritual_a duty_n no_o though_o he_o be_v bind_v to_o it_o by_o oath_n 2._o the_o oath_n make_v the_o thing_n swear_v to_o no_o more_o spiritual_a than_o a_o carnal_a obligation_n unto_o it_o which_o may_v concur_v with_o the_o obligation_n of_o a_o oath_n make_v it_o carnal_a 3._o the_o law_n be_v all_o spiritual_a in_o the_o manner_n but_o yet_o all_o the_o work_v require_v by_o it_o be_v not_o spiritual_a nor_o so_o esteem_v the_o apostle_n 1._o cor._n 6._o distinguish_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thing_n pertain_v to_o this_o life_n from_o spiritual_a thing_n all_o divine_v usual_o distinguish_v the_o common_a moral_a duty_n practise_v by_o light_n of_o nature_n from_o such_o as_o be_v spiritual_a 4._o obedience_n to_o master_n for_o conscience_n sake_n be_v a_o service_n or_o obedience_n to_o god_n as_o it_o come_v from_o conscience_n towards_o god_n but_o every_o sign_n of_o subjection_n be_v not_o a_o sign_n of_o it_o as_o it_o come_v from_o conscience_n towards_o god_n 5._o in_o the_o last_o place_n the_o reply_o suppose_v all_o true_a that_o hitherto_o the_o def._n and_o rej._n have_v strive_v for_o yet_o deni_v that_o any_o thing_n can_v be_v conclude_v from_o thence_o for_o our_o convocation-power_n in_o appoint_v such_o ceremony_n because_o such_o prophet_n as_o abraham_n may_v do_v more_o than_o our_o convocation_n the_o rej._n here_o will_v have_v we_o show_v that_o this_o be_v do_v by_o prophetical_a inspiration_n and_o because_o this_o be_v not_o do_v he_o call_v this_o answer_n a_o bolt_v hole_n fit_a for_o a_o distress_a and_o wilful_a disputer_n who_o cause_n can_v be_v defend_v and_o yet_o his_o stomach_n will_v not_o yield_v but_o if_o he_o have_v well_o consider_v that_o it_o belong_v not_o proper_o to_o the_o answer_n but_o to_o the_o opponent_n to_o produce_v reason_n and_o how_o unreasonable_a it_o be_v for_o to_o require_v a_o reason_n prove_v a_o thing_n to_o be_v do_v of_o he_o that_o judge_v it_o false_a and_o only_o for_o disputation_n sake_n grant_v his_o adversary_n to_o suppose_v and_o take_v it_o as_o true_a he_o will_v never_o have_v abuse_v so_o many_o word_n by_o misplace_v of_o they_o all_o these_o thing_n consider_v i_o doubt_v not_o as_o the_o reply_o say_v but_o abraham_n servant_n if_o he_o be_v here_o present_a and_o need_v require_v will_v swear_v that_o his_o example_n make_v nothing_o for_o our_o ceremony_n sect_n 10._o concern_v suarez_n the_o jesuite_n his_o state_v of_o the_o controversy_n betwixt_o protestant_n and_o papist_n 1._o in_o this_o section_n a_o objection_n of_o we_o be_v bring_v in_o without_o rank_n or_o file_n in_o the_o middle_n of_o example_n forget_v as_o the_o rej._n say_v in_o the_o proper_a place_n but_o nothing_o of_o moment_n be_v answer_v thereto_o either_o by_o the_o def._n or_o rej._n which_o be_v not_o sufficient_o clear_v in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o write_n chapter_n the_o sixth_o except_o the_o state_n which_o suarez_n make_v of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o we_o and_o papist_n this_o therefore_o as_o be_v very_o observable_a remain_v here_o to_o be_v declare_v 2._o the_o place_n quote_v be_v in_o 3._o tom_n 3._o disp._n 15._o sect._n 2._o the_o word_n as_o the_o replier_n have_v they_o be_v these_o the_o first_o error_n be_v that_o only_o those_o sign_n which_o be_v write_v aught_o to_o be_v retain_v and_o use_v in_o the_o church_n the_o second_o that_o no_o outward_a worship_n of_o god_n be_v lawful_a but_o only_o that_o which_o be_v appoint_v by_o god_n the_o three_o that_o the_o church_n have_v not_o power_n of_o command_v and_o ordain_v those_o thing_n he_o mean_v mystical_a ceremony_n which_o be_v necessary_a for_o convenient_a celebration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o which_o three_o point_n there_o be_v none_o wherein_o suarez_n and_o the_o def._n do_v not_o jump_v to_o this_o the_o rej._n first_o answer_v that_o suarez_n do_v not_o propound_v these_o three_o point_n as_o three_o error_n of_o the_o protestant_n because_o he_o mention_v not_o protestant_n but_o heretic_n which_o reason_n be_v not_o worth_a the_o answer_n because_o he_o mention_v heretic_n of_o this_o time_n which_o phrase_n be_v often_o in_o the_o jesuite_n writing_n understand_v of_o protestant_n then_o of_o any_o other_o as_o all_o know_v that_o have_v look_v upon_o they_o by_o the_o ●ame_n reason_n one_o may_v argue_v that_o he_o understand_v no_o special_a sect_n or_o person_n b●cause_n he_o mention_v not_o any_o by_o name_n but_o it_o shall_v appear_v that_o his_o meaning_n can_v be_v of_o no_o other_o than_o protestant_n 3._o he_o add_v in_o the_o second_o place_n the_o word_n go_v before_o those_o quote_v he_o speak_v of_o suenkf●l●ians_n and_o this_o be_v true_a but_o nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o he_o leave_v they_o as_o desperate_a phantastic_o pass_v on_o to_o other_o that_o be_v protestant_n as_o by_o and_o by_o shall_v appear_v 4._o in_o the_o next_o place_n say_v the_o rej._n suarez_n speak_v of_o such_o as_o allow_v some_o external_a worship_n of_o god_n but_o refuse_v all_o ecclesiastical_a ceremony_n in_o his_o worship_n as_o the_o invention_n of_o man_n and_o hold_v nothing_o to_o be_v lawful_a in_o god_n service_n but_o what_o be_v command_v in_o holy_a scripture_n which_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o those_o three_o error_n mention_v by_o the_o reply_o this_o may_v be_v call_v truth_n but_o it_o be_v not_o all_o the_o truth_n which_o belong_v to_o our_o present_a purpose_n for_o suarez_n his_o word_n be_v these_o other_o reproove_v ecclesiastical_a ceremony_n as_o humane_a invention_n without_o authority_n or_o precept_n in_o scripture_n est_fw-la alij_fw-la ecclesiasticas_fw-la ceremomonias_fw-la reprehendunt_fw-la eo_fw-la quod_fw-la sint_fw-la humana_fw-la inuenta_fw-la absque_fw-la divino_fw-la praecepto_fw-la vel_fw-la authoritate_fw-la in_o scripture_n contenta_fw-la putant_fw-la enim_fw-la ifri_fw-la non_fw-la licere_fw-la deum_fw-la colere_fw-la alio_fw-la cultu_fw-la nisi_fw-la illo_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o scripture_n nobis_fw-la praeceptus_fw-la est_fw-la in_o quo_fw-la fundamento_fw-la tres_fw-la isti_fw-la errores_fw-la continentur_fw-la etc._n etc._n putant_fw-la isti_fw-la non_fw-la licere_fw-la deum_fw-la colere_fw-la alto_fw-mi cultu_fw-la nisi_fw-la illo_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o scripture_n nobis_fw-la praeceptus_fw-la est_fw-la for_o they_o think_v it_o unlawful_a to_o worship_n god_n with_o any_o other_o worship_n than_o be_v in_o scripture_n enjoin_v in_o which_o ground_n three_o error_n be_v contain_v here_o may_v a_o great_a difference_n be_v observe_v betwixt_o the_o rej._n his_o translation_n and_o suarez_n his_o word_n especial_o in_o that_o for_o those_o word_n th●y_o think_v it_o unlawful_a to_o worship_n god_n with_o any_o other_o worship_n than_o be_v in_o scripture_n prescribe_v the_o rej._n give_v these_o they_o hold_v nothing_o to_o be_v lawful_a in_o god_n service_n but_o what_o be_v command_v in_o scripture_n for_o many_o thing_n be_v lawful_a in_o god_n service_n which_o be_v not_o worship_n as_o civil_a circumstance_n etc._n etc._n 5._o after_o those_o three_o error_n the_o rej._n abserve_v suarez_n to_o speak_v of_o some_o that_o dissalow_v not_o ceremony_n in_o general_a but_o impugn_v the_o ceremony_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o vain_a and_o superstitious_a these_o no_o doubt_n add_v the_o rej_n be_v the_o protestant_n to_o who_o he_o impute_v there_o
reg._n cap._n 8._o thus_o express_v it_o be_v lawful_a to_o do●_n what_o solomon_n do_v because_o though_o it_o be_v forbid_v to_o offer_v sacrifice_n elsewhere_o then_o at_o the_o altar_n of_o whole_a burnt-offering_n yet_o now_o upon_o necessity_n it_o may_v be_v when_o the_o altar_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o hold_v all_o nor_o do_v solomon_n against_o the_o law_n because_o now_o sacrifice_n be_v burn_v at_o the_o altar_n and_o on_o the_o altar_n together_o and_o so_o the_o whole_a court_n of_o the_o priest_n be_v in_o a_o manner_n but_o as_o one_o altar_n and_o the_o intent_n of_o the_o law_n be_v no_o other_o then_o that_o they_o shall_v not_o offer_v in_o divers_a place_n but_o here_o be_v but_o one_o continue_a place_n locis_fw-la licin●●_n fuit_fw-la quod_fw-la 〈◊〉_d solomon_n quia_fw-la licet_fw-la prohibitum_fw-la asset_fw-la of●erri_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la alibi_fw-la quam_fw-la in_o altari_fw-la hol●caustorum_n tamen_fw-la nunc_fw-la ex_fw-la necessitate_v licuit_fw-la cum_fw-la non_fw-la possint_fw-la capi_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la super_fw-la altar_n etiam_fw-la non_fw-la videbaturagi_n contra_fw-la legem_fw-la quia_fw-la nunc_fw-la cremebantur_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la apud_fw-la altar_n &_o simul_fw-la in_o altari_fw-la &_o ●ic_fw-la videbatur_fw-la totum_fw-la atrium_n sacerdo●●m_fw-la esse_fw-la tanquam_fw-la unum_fw-la altar_n intentio_fw-la autem_fw-la legis_fw-la erat_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la offerrerentur_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la in_o diversis_fw-la locis_fw-la sect_n 22._o concern_v synogogue_n to_o this_o simple_a instance_n the_o reply_o answer_v 1._o that_o synagogue_n be_v no_o significant_a ceremony_n 2._o that_o it_o be_v most_o likely_a they_o be_v first_o found_v by_o those_o prophet_n which_o bring_v in_o school_n of_o the_o prophet_n 3._o that_o in_o they_o there_o be_v of_o old_a no_o significant_a humane_a ceremony_n use_v to_o the_o first_o be_v rejoin_v that_o the_o synagogue_n bear_v some_o representation_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n but_o i_o ask_v how_o be_v this_o representation_n in_o matter_n or_o form_n or_o use_v he_o seem_v to_o refer_v it_o unto_o use_n in_o resort_v to_o solemn_a worship_n now_o let_v any_o man_n consider_v whether_o every_o place_n appoint_v for_o solemn_a worship_n be_v a_o significant_a ceremony_n if_o so_o than_o no_o anabaptist_n ever_o deny_v significant_a ceremony_n of_o mansappoint_v which_o yet_o the_o rejoynderaccuse_v they_o for_o but_o this_o fond_a conceit_n be_v sufficient_o confute_v in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o writing_n chap._n 4._o and_o 5._o yet_o suppose_v the_o synagogue_n have_v be_v a_o representation_n of_o the_o sanctuary_n which_o be_v a_o ceremony_n be_v every_o representation_n of_o a_o ceremony_n a_o new_a ceremony_n then_o any_o man_n may_v make_v more_o ceremony_n than_o there_o be_v man_n in_o his_o parish_n the_o second_o about_o the_o sound_n of_o synagogue_n by_o prophet_n which_o the_o repl._n say_v be_v most_o likely_a the_o rejoynder_n make_v a_o bold_a affirmation_n without_o proof_n but_o what_o boldness_n be_v in_o conjecture_v that_o to_o be_v likely_a which_o no_o man_n can_v give_v any_o likely_a reason_n against_o the_o three_o of_o no_o humane_a significant_a ceremony_n use_v in_o synagogue_n be_v absolute_o pronounce_v false_a but_o no_o reason_n of_o this_o sentence_n be_v give_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n but_o only_o that_o they_o use_v there_o reverend_a gesture_n as_o if_o all_o reverend_a gesture_n be_v significant_a ceremony_n of_o man_n invention_n the_o rest_n that_o he_o quote_v out_o of_o purchas_n his_o pilgrimage_n be_v wander_a pilgrim_n without_o house_n or_o home_n and_o therefore_o worthy_a no_o other_o answer_n but_o that_o which_o our_o law_n have_v provide_v for_o vagabond_n sect_n 23.24.25.26_o concern_v love-feast_n 1._o the_o instance_n out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v such_o as_o we_o have_v now_o show_v they_o to_o be_v out_o of_o the_o new_a testament_n first_o be_v bring_v in_o the_o feast_n of_o love_n or_o charity_n now_o concern_v these_o feast_n no_o man_n can_v certain_o inform_v we_o who_o do_v appoint_v they_o i_o mervayl_v say_v the_o apostle_n according_a to_o erasmus_n his_o paraphrase_n on_o 1._o cor._n 11._o quis_fw-la ritus_fw-la istos_fw-la i●_n vos_fw-la invexerit_fw-la who_o brought-in_a these_o love-feast_n no_o man_n can_v tell_v we_o what_o religious_a signification_n be_v by_o institution_n annex_v unto_o they_o nay_o it_o can_v be_v show_v where_o they_o be_v speak_v of_o without_o reproof_n yet_o the_o defend_n and_o rejoynd_v will_v needs_o have_v they_o significant_a humane_a ceremony_n ordain_v and_o use_v by_o the_o apostle_n 2._o to_o this_o it_o be_v 1._o answer_v by_o m_n r._n nic._n that_o if_o they_o be_v of_o apostolical_a than_o they_o be_v of_o divine_a institution_n then_o which_o say_v the_o defender_n he_o can_v not_o have_v utter_v a_o more_o unlearned_a position_n nay_o soft_a it_o be_v reply_v this_o censure_n be_v too_o too_o magisterial_a because_o to_o say_v that_o that_o which_o come_v from_o the_o apostle_n as_o apostle_n come_v from_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n be_v no_o unlearned_a position_n o_o yes_o answer_v the_o rejoynder_n because_o the_o apostle_n ordain_v some_o thing_n not_o as_o apostle_n not_o by_o immediate_a revelation_n but_o by_o the_o direction_n and_o authority_n of_o god_n word_n in_o which_o kind_n of_o rejoyn_v i_o see_v no_o more_o learning_n than_o needs_o must_v 1._o the_o quaestion_n be_v of_o apostolical_a institution_n the_o answer_n be_v of_o that_o which_o the_o apostle_n do_v but_o not_o as_o apostle_n that_o be_v not_o proper_o apostolical_a 2._o that_o which_o be_v manifest_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n shine_v ●n_o the_o word_n they_o be_v the_o rejoynder_n his_o word_n be_v de●ied_v to_o be_v divine_a 3._o no_o example_n be_v or_o can_v be_v bring_v of_o a_o new_a significant_a ceremony_n institute_v by_o the_o apostle_n without_o immediate_a revelation_n 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