Selected quad for the lemma: authority_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
authority_n	according_a	church_n	power_n	3,403	5	5.0065	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
B11734	The vnreasonablenesse of the separation Made apparant, by an examination of Mr. Iohnsons pretended reasons, published an. 1608. Wherby hee laboureth to iustifie his schisme from the church assemblies of England.	Bradshaw, William, 1571-1618.; Ames, William, 1576-1633. Manudicition for Mr. Robinson.	1614 (1614)	STC 3532; ESTC S113892	55,662	116

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