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father_n take_v some_o province_n from_o the_o patriarchate_o of_o antioch_n other_o from_o alexandria_n and_o in_o the_o foresay_a example_n the_o cyprian_n can_v not_o shake_v off_o the_o authority_n of_o antioch_n till_o the_o decree_n be_v produce_v of_o the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n much_o loss_n this_o island_n ought_v to_o separate_v from_o the_o sea_n of_o rome_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o titile_o of_o conversion_n and_o only_o under_o gregory_n the_o first_o but_o long_o before_o the_o entrance_n of_o st._n austin_n under_o pope_n elutherius_n by_o elvanus_n and_o meduinus_n priest_n be_v request_v thereunto_o by_o king_n lucius_n anno_fw-la dom._n 179._o while_o it_o be_v possess_v by_o the_o britain_n in_o which_o primitive_a faith_n it_o remain_v immaculate_a and_o uncorrupted_a except_o the_o question_n of_o pascha_fw-la in_o which_o it_o be_v corrupt_v by_o pict_n and_o scot_n indeed_o they_o resist_v st._n austin_n because_o they_o think_v he_o side_v with_o the_o 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any_o favour_n he_o do_v not_o only_o accuse_v st._n augustine_n but_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o foolishness_n and_o malice_n and_o all_o the_o prophecy_n of_o the_o figne_n of_o the_o church_n upon_o which_o st._n augustine_n &_o before_o he_o optatus_n hierom_n and_o all_o bishop_n and_o doctor_n rely_v out_o of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a law_n the_o prophet_n and_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n all_o which_o in_o they_o this_o man_n deride_v what_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o use_n of_o image_n he_o simple_o affirm_v as_o the_o rest_n but_o be_v so_o far_o from_o prove_v any_o thing_n that_o he_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o attempt_v it_o neither_o be_v it_o a_o thing_n worthy_a my_o insist_v upon_o since_o every_o abodary_n controvertist_n make_v it_o obvious_a to_o child_n yet_o mr._n hobbs_n will_v force_v i_o afterward_o to_o join_v issue_n with_o he_o in_o it_o in_o fine_a the_o treatise_n of_o schism_n speak_v many_o thing_n which_o seem_v destructive_a to_o christian_a faith_n which_o he_o bare_o propose_v or_o rather_o suppose_v out_o of_o which_o false_a supposition_n he_o do_v false_o conclude_v that_o there_o be_v no_o schism_n in_o the_o church_n but_o as_o aristotle_n pol._n l._n 2._o c._n 4_o right_o admonish_v supposition_n indeed_o may_v be_v make_v as_o every_o one_o please_v but_o not_o impossible_a one_o neither_o be_v it_o of_o more_o moment_n what_o antonius_n the_o dominis_n l._n 4._o and_o other_o contend_v that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o the_o african_n to_o appeal_v to_o rome_n according_a to_o the_o 22._o canon_n council_n melevit_fw-la and_o in_o like_a manner_n england_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o recur_v thither_o or_o elsewhere_o but_o just_o provide_v for_o its_o own_o right_a while_o it_o withdraw_v itself_o from_o the_o roman_a yoke_n as_o the_o african_a church_n live_v in_o the_o district_n of_o the_o patriarchate_n procure_v to_o itself_o the_o same_o ease_n first_o i_o say_v that_o africa_n do_v in_o no_o wise_n withdraw_v itself_o from_o the_o obedience_n of_o the_o sea_n of_o rome_n i_o add_v moreover_o neither_o do_v it_o deny_v the_o right_n of_o appeal_n but_o in_o certain_a case_n &_o certain_a person_n to_o wit_n simple_a clerk_n which_o do_v appeal_v thither_o without_o observe_v any_o order_n of_o law_n which_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n do_v &_o do_v at_o this_o day_n condemn_v otherwise_o read_v st._n augustine_n ep_v 162._o omit_v other_o who_o express_o affirm_v the_o right_a of_o appeal_n to_o the_o sea_n of_o rome_n so_o the_o pretend_a canon_n make_v by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n show_v no_o other_o thing_n but_o in_o no_o wise_a as_o i_o say_v do_v it_o withdraw_v itself_o from_o the_o obedience_n of_o the_o sea_n of_o rome_n neither_o be_v there_o the_o least_o show_n of_o it_o but_o of_o the_o clean_a contrary_n in_o the_o reciprocal_a letter_n of_o that_o council_n to_o the_o pope_n and_o of_o he_o to_o they_o as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o the_o body_n of_o the_o epistle_n of_o st._n augustine_n it_o will_v be_v tedious_a to_o learned_a reader_n if_o i_o shall_v write_v they_o out_o they_o will_v more_o easy_o recur_v to_o the_o place_n cite_v i_o add_v further_o worthy_a to_o be_v note_v if_o the_o right_a of_o appeal_n have_v be_v there_o abrogate_a yet_o it_o conclude_v not_o that_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o sea_n of_o rome_n over_o they_o be_v annul_v except_o any_o shall_v be_v so_o senseless_a as_o to_o imagine_v that_o the_o prefect_n of_o the_o praetorian_a court_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o the_o roman_a emperor_n because_o their_o authority_n deserve_v to_o be_v advance_v to_o such_o a_o height_n that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o appeal_v from_o they_o l._n 1._o f._n the_o offic_n pref._n praet_fw-la i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a that_o some_o grecian_n as_o nilus_n contend_v that_o the_o right_n of_o appeal_n which_o the_o seat_n of_o rome_n have_v for_o he_o acknowledge_v that_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o other_o patriarch_n do_v not_o convince_v that_o seat_n to_o have_v jurisdiction_n over_o they_o because_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n the_o constant_a inopolitan_a have_v by_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n can._n 9_o the_o same_o power_n over_o their_o metropolitan_o do_v not_o exexcise_n jurisdiction_n over_o they_o i_o answer_v that_o be_v deni_v only_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n to_o have_v the_o same_o power_n over_o the_o general_a patriarch_n which_o he_o have_v over_o other_o bishop_n who_o be_v ordain_v by_o authority_n derive_v from_o he_o and_o therefore_o conclude_v that_o the_o pope_n can_v trouble_v their_o ordinary_a government_n which_o be_v true_a this_o therefore_o confirm_v what_o hitherto_o have_v be_v say_v and_o make_v good_a that_o england_n by_o all_o law_n remain_v subject_a to_o the_o sea_n of_o rome_n under_o pain_n of_o rebellion_n chap._n 7._o protestant_n have_v make_v this_o schism_n it_o be_v clear_a than_o noon_n day_n that_o not_o catholic_n but_o protestant_n have_v make_v this_o schism_n and_o divide_v the_o church_n because_o when_o in_o any_o commonwealth_n govern_v under_o the_o same_o prince_n or_o sovereignty_n and_o by_o the_o same_o law_n a_o few_o man_n withdraw_v themselves_o from_o the_o obedience_n of_o authority_n and_o increase_v in_o number_n they_o begin_v to_o set_v up_o their_o conventicle_n make_v law_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o body_n remain_v in_o the_o ancient_a manner_n of_o government_n under_o their_o own_o sovereign_a power_n proclaim_v a_o war_n it_o be_v manifest_a not_o the_o body_n of_o the_o common_a wealth_n which_o still_o persever_v in_o the_o same_o state_n but_o these_o few_o man_n recede_v from_o the_o body_n with_o their_o adherent_n have_v make_v the_o division_n and_o blow_v up_o the_o rebellion_n in_o the_o same_o manner_n have_v protestant_n behave_v themselves_o towards_o catholic_n before_o the_o scandal_n of_o henry_n the_o 8_o or_o
god_n glory_n how_o they_o do_v speak_v it_o they_o can_v declare_v no_o more_o than_o they_o be_v according_a to_o mr._n hobbs_n and_o therefore_o only_a thing_n finite_a which_o be_v to_o confine_v god_n against_o the_o drift_n of_o the_o psalm_n philosophy_n and_o scripture_n teach_v we_o to_o find_v god_n by_o his_o creature_n as_o st._n paul_n 1_o rom._n 20._o remit_v we_o to_o the_o creature_n invisibilia_fw-la à _fw-la constitutione_n mundi_fw-la per_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la facta_fw-la sunt_fw-la intellecta_fw-la conspiciuntur_fw-la our_o understanding_n of_o god_n be_v from_o these_o visible_a thing_n nay_o it_o be_v the_o only_a natural_a way_n we_o have_v from_o the_o effect_n to_o find_v the_o first_o cause_n and_o not_o from_o the_o first_o cause_n the_o effect_n and_o all_o thing_n without_o his_o confinement_n so_o by_o picture_n we_o ascend_v to_o what_o be_v represent_v not_o tie_v ourselves_o to_o the_o manner_n in_o our_o worship_n of_o god_n under_o that_o representation_n in_o the_o pursuit_n we_o relinquish_v the_o manner_n and_o go_v forward_o with_o our_o discourse_n we_o find_v and_o with_o our_o devotion_n follow_v the_o infinity_o of_o god_n goodness_n all_o representative_n be_v essential_o inferior_a to_o the_o prototype_n by_o many_o degree_n yet_o safe_o conduct_v we_o to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o they_o without_o abase_v their_o nature_n to_o the_o image_n so_o here_o and_o all_o act_n of_o acknowledgement_n of_o god_n in_o and_o by_o his_o creature_n for_o we_o know_v the_o effect_n can_v equalise_v the_o first_o cause_n especial_o neither_o in_o nature_n nor_o in_o manner_n of_o existence_n and_o therefore_o we_o conclude_v god_n supreme_a essence_n and_o goodness_n to_o transcend_v all_o we_o see_v &_o in_o the_o like_a manner_n we_o easy_o ascend_v by_o the_o use_n of_o picture_n neither_o can_v we_o do_v otherwise_o if_o we_o use_v our_o reason_n so_o that_o there_o be_v no_o danger_n of_o god_n confinement_n and_o therefore_o no_o idolatry_n i_o remember_v that_o cassian_n in_o his_o collation_n tell_v we_o of_o a_o poor_a ignorant_a monk_n who_o out_o of_o error_n have_v frame_v to_o himself_o in_o his_o narrow_a imagination_n a_o conceit_n of_o god_n be_v corporal_a and_o can_v very_o hardly_o be_v bring_v to_o entertain_v high_a thought_n of_o god_n spiritual_a essence_n be_v unwillng_v to_o relinquish_v his_o fantastical_o ill_a frame_v image_n of_o god_n we_o be_v much_o behold_v to_o mr._n hobbs_n who_o be_v so_o tender_a of_o christian_n dulness_n that_o least_o by_o their_o image_n they_o shall_v conceive_v god_n to_o be_v finite_a or_o corporal_a with_o this_o poor_a monk_n he_o will_v remove_v all_o picture_n though_o god_n himself_o not_o so_o careful_a as_o mr._n hobbs_n have_v be_v please_v to_o talk_v and_o walk_v with_o adam_n which_o be_v act_n of_o a_o corporal_a and_o finite_a creature_n and_o othertime_n to_o make_v resemblance_n as_o if_o he_o have_v appear_v in_o corporal_a shape_n as_o to_o moses_n perchance_o to_o jacob_n and_o other_o nay_o even_o the_o son_n of_o god_n appear_v in_o our_o poor_a nature_n all_o which_o will_v draw_v we_o into_o error_n if_o god_n have_v not_o by_o his_o prophet_n apostle_n and_o daily_o by_o his_o church_n and_o even_o by_o reason_n teach_v we_o the_o right_a use_n of_o such_o passage_n and_o to_o know_v that_o those_o sensible_a representative_n be_v only_a conductive_n to_o god_n himself_o as_o we_o teach_v student_n by_o emblem_n to_o conceive_v thing_n more_o remote_a from_o their_o present_a capacity_n all_o which_o will_v warrant_v our_o use_n of_o image_n yet_o without_o god_n confinement_n and_o consequent_o without_o idolatry_n neither_o will_v this_o if_o true_a any_o way_n excuse_v they_o from_o sacrilegious_a schism_n except_o all_o be_v compel_v to_o idolatry_n st._n augustine_n say_v there_o can_v be_v no_o just_a necessity_n to_o cut_v off_o unity_n l._n 2._o cont_n ep._n parm._n c._n 2._o and_o as_o he_o elsewhere_o ep._n 166._o our_o heavenly_a master_n have_v so_o much_o admonish_v we_o to_o take_v heed_n of_o this_o that_o he_o will_v make_v the_o common_a people_n secure_v even_o of_o evil_a superior_n that_o not_o for_o they_o the_o chair_n of_o save_a doctrine_n shall_v be_v destroy_v therefore_o the_o chair_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v forsake_v much_o less_o destroy_v for_o the_o error_n of_o the_o precedent_n o_o how_o st._n cyprian_n do_v purge_v that_o poison_n of_o they_o to_o the_o quick_a epist_n l._n 3._o ep_v 2._o if_o there_o be_v see_v darnel_n to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n our_o faith_n and_o charity_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v hinder_v thereby_o that_o because_o we_o see_v darnel_n to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n we_o therefore_o leave_v the_o church_n etc._n etc._n the_o apostle_n in_o the_o second_o epist_n to_o timothy_n 2._o say_v in_o a_o great_a house_n there_o be_v not_o only_a vessel_n of_o gold_n and_o of_o silver_n but_o also_o of_o wood_n and_o of_o earth_n and_o certain_a indeed_o unto_o honour_n but_o certain_a also_o unto_o contumely_n but_o it_o be_v only_o lawful_a for_o god_n who_o have_v a_o rod_n of_o iron_n to_o break_v the_o earthen_a vessel_n etc._n etc._n let_v not_o any_o one_o assume_v to_o himself_o what_o the_o father_n alone_o have_v give_v to_o his_o son_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v say_v he_o a_o proud_a obstinacy_n and_o sacrilegious_a presumption_n which_o wicked_a fury_n assume_v to_o itself_o let_v our_o country_n man_n think_v sad_o of_o this_o it_o be_v object_v to_o i_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v force_v her_o proselyte_n to_o believe_v falsehood_n pernicious_o under_o anathema_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n i_o answer_v that_o if_o we_o shall_v make_v a_o impossible_a supposition_n against_o all_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n that_o the_o church_n shall_v in_o necessary_a point_n teach_v error_n yet_o even_o in_o that_o case_n every_o child_n of_o the_o church_n must_v exterior_o carry_v himself_o quiet_a and_o not_o make_v commotion_n for_o that_o be_v to_o seek_v a_o cure_n worse_o than_o the_o disease_n as_o in_o the_o like_o impossible_a supposition_n our_o countryman_n waldensis_n l._n 2._o c._n 27._o teach_v non_fw-la perperam_fw-la insilire_fw-la debet_fw-la he_o must_v not_o leap_v against_o the_o church_n face_n in_o rebellion_n neither_o be_v he_o bind_v to_o believe_v a_o untruth_n nor_o yet_o be_v one_o in_o danger_n to_o incur_v the_o censure_n for_o the_o church_n can_v reach_v the_o mind_n only_a god_n in_o a_o just_a sentence_n confirm_v her_o act_n reach_v home_o which_o can_v be_v in_o this_o case_n for_o he_o shall_v confirm_v a_o injustice_n whence_o it_o follow_v that_o no_o man_n be_v or_o can_v be_v compel_v to_o believe_v untruth_n but_o only_o not_o to_o make_v schism_n which_o by_o divine_a law_n be_v forbid_v and_o therefore_o st._n augustine_n rule_n be_v still_o true_a there_o can_v be_v no_o necessity_n of_o cut_v off_o the_o church_n unity_n no_o not_o in_o supposition_n that_o she_o shall_v command_v great_a error_n but_o you_o will_v not_o object_n that_o if_o the_o article_n command_v by_o the_o church_n be_v in_o themselves_o true_a yet_o if_o i_o can_v perceive_v their_o truth_n after_o all_o diligence_n use_v to_o that_o end_n it_o be_v hypocrisy_n in_o i_o and_o therefore_o unlawful_a to_o adhere_v to_o that_o church_n i_o conceive_v though_o false_o teach_v and_o command_v false_a doctrine_n and_o extraordinary_a practice_n upon_o those_o ground_n this_o true_o be_v most_o serious_o object_v by_o some_o but_o without_o all_o solidity_n for_o sure_o christian_n be_v oblige_v by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o reason_n to_o depose_v their_o own_o false_a judgement_n in_o obedience_n to_o god_n &_o his_o church_n else_o this_o will_v open_v a_o gap_n to_o all_o itch_a ear_n of_o who_o we_o be_v premonish_v to_o introduce_v each_o man_n his_o fancy_n and_o prefer_v it_o before_o the_o wholesome_a doctrine_n of_o christ_n deliver_v by_o his_o church_n neither_o be_v it_o difficult_a for_o man_n though_o learned_a to_o depose_v his_o own_o judgement_n especial_o in_o order_n to_o external_a action_n for_o it_o be_v daily_o do_v by_o all_o sort_n of_o timorate_a conscience_n who_o do_v mangre_n their_o own_o reason_n direct_v themselves_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o such_o who_o they_o know_v to_o be_v more_o learned_a than_o themselves_o mr._n hobbbs_n chap._n 15._o and_o n._n 13._o say_v unusquisque_fw-la rationem_fw-la privatam_fw-la rationi_fw-la totius_fw-la civitatis_fw-la submittere_fw-la potest_fw-la here_o he_o labour_v to_o lay_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o derivation_n of_o power_n in_o the_o commonwealth_n to_o determine_v what_o belong_v to_o matter_n of_o religion_n which_o he_o faith_n that_o the_o people_n have_v transfer_v to_o the_o magistrate_n he_o prove_v it_o as_o he_o faith_n evident_o i_o examine_v it_o not_o be_v pertinent_a to_o