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vent_v of_o bitter_a but_o ungrounded_a surmize_n we_o account_v our_o abstinence_n from_o these_o cerem_fw-la no_o special_a or_o particular_a worship_n much_o less_o singular_a for_o degree_n of_o excellency_n nor_o do_v we_o esteem_v it_o a_o point_n of_o piety_n more_o singular_a than_o to_o abstain_v from_o swear_v by_o the_o mass_n some_o point_n of_o sincerity_n there_o be_v in_o refuse_v these_o mixture_n but_o not_o worship_n or_o so_o singular_a in_o our_o opinion_n as_o the_o rej._n will_v persuade_v his_o reader_n to_o our_o singular_a prejudice_n &_o wrong_v many_o thing_n be_v singular_a fault_n if_o they_o be_v admit_v the_o leave_v of_o which_o be_v no_o singular_a commendation_n what_o if_o some_o have_v rather_o never_o preach_v the_o gospel_n or_o receive_v the_o supper_n than_o tell_v a_o lie_n for_o those_o end_n will_v the_o rej._n thence_o conclude_v that_o they_o make_v the_o abstain_v from_o a_o lie_n a_o more_o singular_a piece_n of_o worship_n and_o piety_n than_o either_o word_n or_o sacrament_n i_o will_v be_v loath_a to_o undertake_v the_o prove_v of_o such_o a_o wild_a consequence_n divine_a and_o bless_a bradford_n refuse_v to_o be_v admit_v unto_o the_o ministry_n by_o b._n ridley_n except_o he_o may_v be_v excuse_v from_o the_o abusive_a formality_n then_o and_o now_o in_o use_n yet_o gardiner_n nor_o boner_n neither_o do_v nor_o be_v ask_v will_v therefore_o as_o be_v probable_a have_v accuse_v he_o of_o superstition_n as_o esteem_v the_o abstain_v from_o those_o abuse_v more_o singular_a service_n of_o god_n or_o piety_n than_o all_o he_o may_v do_v and_o do_v afterward_o in_o the_o ministry_n 8._o the_o example_n bring_v by_o the_o rej._n be_v like_a unto_o his_o reason_n 1._o the_o pharisee_n do_v superstitious_o restrainâ—_n labour_n on_o the_o sabbath_n beyond_o that_o which_o god_n impose_v this_o be_v a_o negative_a superstition_n true_a it_o be_v a_o human_a institute_v ceremony_n something_o like_a unto_o popish_a holy_a â—ayes_v but_o the_o pharisee_n abstain_v from_o the_o feast_n of_o bacchus_n venus_n etc._n etc._n be_v no_o special_a worship_n 2._o the_o â—hilasâ—ims_v not_o tread_v on_o dagons_n threshold_n be_v negative_a superstition_n true_a as_o the_o former_a it_o be_v a_o observation_n institute_v to_o honour_n dagon_n by_o but_o their_o not-admitâ—ing_a of_o circumcision_n be_v no_o superstition_n when_o therefore_o upon_o such_o wretched_a example_n and_o reason_n as_o these_o â—re_n the_o rej_n be_v so_o confident_a in_o lay_v his_o weighty_a charge_n â—f_a superstition_n upon_o we_o as_o that_o he_o pronounce_v all_o the_o â—ater_a of_o nilus_n not_o to_o be_v sufficient_a to_o wash_v we_o from_o gross_a superstition_n the_o understand_a reader_n have_v no_o cause_n to_o â—hinke_v otherwise_o but_o that_o even_o the_o rej._n may_v have_v a_o confident_a full_a persuasion_n such_o as_o that_o he_o build_v much_o â—n_n and_o yet_o but_o hollow_a empty_a supporter_n for_o the_o uphold_v of_o it_o 9_o such_o also_o be_v his_o distinction_n whereby_o as_o with_o a_o wet_a finger_n he_o discharge_v the_o convocation_n of_o all_o superstition_n because_o they_o impose_v the_o ceremony_n not_o as_o â—hings_n direct_o proper_o immediate_o but_o only_o consequent_o â—nd_v mediate_o belong_v to_o the_o give_v of_o honour_n to_o god_n for_o 1._o if_o they_o be_v consequent_o direct_v to_o god_n in_o â—eaching_v of_o man_n god_n will_v as_o the_o word_n do_v they_o be_v direct_a worship_n unless_o preach_v be_v no_o worship_n 2._o if_o â—hey_n be_v worship_n proper_a to_o this_o office_n they_o be_v proper_a worship_n 3._o if_o they_o be_v worship_n belong_v to_o the_o first_o â—able_n than_o they_o be_v immediate_o worship_n but_o all_o the_o former_a be_v true_a as_o be_v before_o show_v yet_o one_o thing_n more_o will_v be_v know_v what_o reason_n the_o rej._n have_v to_o place_v the_o observance_n of_o our_o cerem_fw-la for_o the_o kind_n of_o it_o in_o one_o degree_n of_o distance_n and_o latitude_n and_o the_o reject_v of_o they_o in_o another_o it_o seem_v to_o be_v as_o if_o the_o english_a day_n and_o night_n shall_v be_v so_o disjoin_v that_o our_o night_n shall_v be_v in_o england_n and_o our_o day_n in_o china_n when_o he_o further_o expound_v himself_o we_o shall_v be_v more_o able_a to_o discern_v his_o meaning_n 10._o last_o of_o all_o for_o end_v of_o this_o quaestion_n about_o superstition_n i_o require_v a_o resolution_n of_o this_o not-unlike_a quaere_fw-la which_o with_o change_n of_o person_n contain_v the_o same_o case_n see_v there_o be_v different_a opinion_n concern_v our_o diocesan_n bishop_n place_n and_o function_n eveâ—_n among_o they_o that_o make_v benefitt_a of_o they_o some_o hold_v they_o to_o be_v of_o divine_a institution_n or_o else_o not_o lawful_a so_o that_o as_o they_o say_v without_o this_o persuasion_n they_o will_v give_v over_o their_o bishopric_n to_o day_n before_o to_o morrow_n other_o hold_v they_o only_o of_o 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and_o ordain_v for_o though_o a_o minister_n may_v do_v something_o in_o his_o administration_n which_o no_o other_o man_n can_v lawful_o do_v yet_o none_o of_o we_o ever_o think_v that_o he_o may_v appoint_v and_o ordain_v any_o thing_n to_o be_v do_z with_o coactive_a authority_n which_o the_o king_n may_v do_v in_o all_o thing_n lawful_a and_o convenient_a even_o in_o church_n affair_n so_o that_o our_o tenant_n be_v that_o the_o minister_n and_o his_o people_n may_v use_v no_o ceremony_n nor_o exercise_v any_o public_a act_n of_o worship_n which_o the_o king_n may_v not_o appoint_v command_n and_o compel_v they_o to_o for_o in_o hold_v that_o no_o such_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v do_z beside_o that_o which_o christ_n have_v appoint_v and_o that_o the_o king_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o see_v that_o all_o christ_n institution_n be_v observe_v we_o must_v needs_o be_v confess_v to_o hold_v that_o assertion_n which_o be_v the_o conclusion_n of_o these_o two_o 4._o the_o fallacious_a 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charge_v the_o rejoynder_n as_o he_o be_v prodigal_a of_o it_o towards_o the_o repl._n but_o ill_a science_n i_o can_v easy_o prove_v for_o 1._o he_o deni_v the_o def._n to_o call_v our_o ceremony_n divine_a because_o forsooth_o he_o call_v they_o so_o in_o the_o general_a and_o not_o in_o their_o special_a for_o so_o the_o def._n do_v interpret_v his_o own_o term_n which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v he_o that_o do_v not_o call_v they_o every_o way_n divine_a do_v not_o call_v they_o divine_a 2._o he_o pass_v by_o the_o main_n term_n of_o our_o argument_n divine_a reject_v of_o the_o same_o ceremony_n in_o other_o church_n reject_v of_o other_o ceremomony_n as_o divine_a as_o these_o in_o our_o church_n and_o for_o these_o he_o put_v only_o different_a divine_a ceremon_n in_o several_a church_n this_o sure_a be_v no_o scientifical_a kind_n of_o answer_n 3._o no_o divinity_n will_v suffer_v any_o thing_n to_o be_v call_v divine_a but_o that_o which_o all_o circumstance_n consider_v may_v at_o least_o necessary_o be_v conclude_v out_o of_o the_o divine_a law_n otherwise_o all_o good_a humane_a law_n may_v be_v call_v divine_a law_n now_o we_o have_v hitherto_o expect_v in_o vain_a when_o our_o ceremony_n may_v be_v so_o conclude_v it_o be_v altogether_o impossible_a that_o the_o institution_n and_o rejection_n of_o cross_n and_o surplice_n in_o divers_a place_n shall_v be_v both_o divine_a or_o that_o the_o urge_n of_o these_o and_o abolish_n of_o image_n shall_v be_v divine_a in_o the_o same_o place_n and_o time_n this_o part_n therefore_o of_o the_o argument_n the_o rejoynder_n think_v good_a to_o answer_v with_o silence_n sect_n 22._o concern_v the_o assumption_n of_o the_o main_a argument_n handle_v in_o this_o chapter_n 1._o the_o repl._n set_v down_o the_o def._n his_o plea_n with_o a_o general_a answer_n thus_o after_o all_o this_o ado_n about_o the_o proposition_n of_o the_o first_o argument_n now_o we_o be_v tell_v of_o a_o assumption_n out_o 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